Mia and Gare discuss the social and political role of gamers and why people like Elon Musk and Sam Bankman-Fried spend so much effort portraying themselves as gamers.

Original Air Date: 3.27.25

Sources:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2024/09/15/deshaun-watson-trade-details-texans-browns/75189022007/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1ykCc588Zw

https://thecourier.com/news/549130/browns-need-to-start-asking-questions-about-depodesta/

https://www.georgiaentertainment.com/2024/04/georgias-got-game-why-the-gaming-industry-is-larger-than-film-television-and-music-combined/#:~:text=The%20dominant%20entertainment%20industry%20is,than%203%20billion%20active%20gamers

https://app2top.com/news/the-gaming-industry-in-2024-by-the-numbers-a-review-by-gamesindustry-276003.html

https://www.ign.com/articles/asmongolds-twitch-channel-banned-following-racist-rant-about-palestinians

https://g-mnews.com/en/global-games-market-will-generate-usd-187-7-billion-in-2024/

Mia and Gare discuss the social and political role of gamers and why people like Elon Musk and Sam Bankman-Fried spend so much effort portraying themselves as gamers.
Original Air Date: 3.27.25
Sources: <a href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2024/09/15/deshaun-watson-trade-details-texans-browns/75189022007/" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="c5a994d1-f030-4ddb-9e1e-1079b1225d9b">https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2024/09/15/deshaun-watson-trade-details-texans-browns/75189022007/</a>
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<a href="https://thecourier.com/news/549130/browns-need-to-start-asking-questions-about-depodesta/" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="6555b7a0-95ac-43f3-8c89-6177c858c6c3">https://thecourier.com/news/549130/browns-need-to-start-asking-questions-about-depodesta/</a>
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<a href="https://g-mnews.com/en/global-games-market-will-generate-usd-187-7-billion-in-2024/" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="a9578aa6-f1d0-4264-ac82-f4d88753e247">https://g-mnews.com/en/global-games-market-will-generate-usd-187-7-billion-in-2024/</a>

It Could Happen Here started as an exploration of the possibility of a new civil war. Now a daily show, it's evolved into a chronicle of collapse as it happens, and an exploration of how we might build a better future. Every day Robert Evans, Garrison Davis, Mia Wong, and James Stout take you on a jaunty walk through the burning ruins of the old world and towards a better one that lays just on the horizon.

It Could Happen Here started as an exploration of the possibility of a new civil war. Now a daily show, it's evolved into a chronicle of collapse as it happens, and an exploration of how we might build a better future. Every day Robert Evans, Garrison Davis, Mia Wong, and James Stout take you on a jaunty walk through the burning ruins of the old world and towards a better one that lays just on the horizon.

It Could Happen Here

CZM Rewind: Elon Musk Has Lost the Gamers

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/62f145fc-db32-463f-90e2-b3a0001d7ccc/transcript

James talks to Marian about how the left discourse about the US kidnapping of Maduro has silenced Venezuelan leftists and how the anti Maduro Venezuelan left is navigating the US intervention.

https://www.instagram.com/e.m.arian 

James talks to Marian about how the left discourse about the US kidnapping of Maduro has silenced Venezuelan leftists and how the anti Maduro Venezuelan left is navigating the US intervention.
<a href="https://www.instagram.com/e.m.arian">https://www.instagram.com/e.m.arian</a>&nbsp;

Talking to Venezuelans About Venezuela

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/179ac731-eca2-4f58-abee-b41d015a4852/transcript

Garrison investigates a series of frightening claims: that ICE can detain people for ‘looking trans,’ the creation of a transgender public registry, and that an adult gender-affirming healthcare ban is imminent.

Sources:

https://transitics.substack.com/p/trump-administration-opens-the-door 

https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2026/03/11/2026-04737/visas-enhancing-vetting-and-combatting-fraud-in-the-diversity-immigrant-visa-program 

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/defending-women-from-gender-ideology-extremism-and-restoring-biological-truth-to-the-federal-government/ 

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https://www.tiktok.com/@transitics/video/7616520936925285662

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https://www.tiktok.com/@e_c_lider/video/7616688370462231830 

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https://www.them.us/story/alice-correia-barbosa-ice-arrest-brazil-trans

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/nov/18/trump-mexico-deportation

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deportations_of_U.S._citizens_in_the_second_Trump_administration#

https://www.congress.gov/119/meeting/house/118180/documents/HMKP-119-JU00-20250430-SD003.pdf

https://19thnews.org/2025/12/trump-administration-plans-to-end-prison-rape-protections-for-trans-and-intersex-people-memo-says/

https://theneedlenews.com/2026/03/anti-trans-hate-groups-petitioning-fda-for-registry-of-trans-women-crackdown-on-transition-newly-revealed-document-shows/

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/27871234-fda-2025-p-7321-0001-attachment-public-fda/?ref=theneedlenews.com

https://bsky.app/profile/angelic.style/post/3mgv3hjepvs2p

https://bsky.app/profile/tinylesbianrobot.itch.io/post/3mgvbihtidu2m

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4865109/#:~:text=Only%20346%20(18%25)%20of,Risk%20Evaluation%20and%20Mitigation%20Strategy

https://www.thepinknews.com/2026/03/19/tennessee-gop-advances-bill-that-would-create-public-list-of-trans-residents/?utm_content=1773928472&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

https://trackbill.com/bill/tennessee-house-bill-754-an-act-to-amend-tennessee-code-annotated-title-1-title-4-title-33-title-56-title-63-title-68-and-title-71-relative-to-health-care/2644177/

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https://glaad.org/new-york-times-sign-on-letter-from-lgtbq-allied-leaders-and-organizations

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https://gnet-research.org/2025/07/18/meaning-through-its-opposite-significance-quest-theory-and-nihilistic-violent-extremism/

https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/what-are-nihilist-violent-extremists 

https://x.com/ItsYourGov/status/1968802472111083949?s=20

https://oversight-project.revv.co/urge-the-fbi-to-designate-transgender-terrorism

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/09/designating-antifa-as-a-domestic-terrorist-organization/

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/09/countering-domestic-terrorism-and-organized-political-violence/

https://www.instagram.com/p/DOykLZJDS2h/

https://www.tiktok.com/@genericartdad/video/7554381061128473886

Garrison investigates a series of frightening claims: that ICE can detain people for &lsquo;looking trans,&rsquo; the creation of a transgender public registry, and that an adult gender-affirming healthcare ban is imminent.
Sources:
<a href="https://transitics.substack.com/p/trump-administration-opens-the-door">https://transitics.substack.com/p/trump-administration-opens-the-door</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2026/03/11/2026-04737/visas-enhancing-vetting-and-combatting-fraud-in-the-diversity-immigrant-visa-program">https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2026/03/11/2026-04737/visas-enhancing-vetting-and-combatting-fraud-in-the-diversity-immigrant-visa-program</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/defending-women-from-gender-ideology-extremism-and-restoring-biological-truth-to-the-federal-government/">https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/defending-women-from-gender-ideology-extremism-and-restoring-biological-truth-to-the-federal-government/</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://rachelnorfolk.me/sites/default/files/2025-02/25_State_11402.pdf">https://rachelnorfolk.me/sites/default/files/2025-02/25_State_11402.pdf</a> <a href="https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/document/policy-manual-updates/20250402-RecognizingMaleAndFemaleSexes.pdf">https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/document/policy-manual-updates/20250402-RecognizingMaleAndFemaleSexes.pdf</a>
<a href="https://iptp-production.s3.amazonaws.com/media/documents/2025.2.24_DOS_Guidance_for_Visa_Adjudicators_EO_14201_22Keeping_Men_Out_of_Wom_VhPai1S.pdf">https://iptp-production.s3.amazonaws.com/media/documents/2025.2.24_DOS_Guidance_for_Visa_Adjudicators_EO_14201_22Keeping_Men_Out_of_Wom_VhPai1S.pdf</a>
<a href="https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/visa-information-resources/administrative-processing-information.html">https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/visa-information-resources/administrative-processing-information.html</a>&nbsp;
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<a href="https://fam.state.gov/fam/09FAM/09FAM030209.html">https://fam.state.gov/fam/09FAM/09FAM030209.html</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://bsky.app/profile/progesteronipizza.bsky.social/post/3m5w6wnkyhc2u">https://bsky.app/profile/progesteronipizza.bsky.social/post/3m5w6wnkyhc2u</a>&nbsp;
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<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@e_c_lider/video/7616688370462231830">https://www.tiktok.com/@e_c_lider/video/7616688370462231830</a>&nbsp;
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<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deportations_of_U.S._citizens_in_the_second_Trump_administration#">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deportations_of_U.S._citizens_in_the_second_Trump_administration#</a>
<a href="https://www.congress.gov/119/meeting/house/118180/documents/HMKP-119-JU00-20250430-SD003.pdf">https://www.congress.gov/119/meeting/house/118180/documents/HMKP-119-JU00-20250430-SD003.pdf</a>
<a href="https://19thnews.org/2025/12/trump-administration-plans-to-end-prison-rape-protections-for-trans-and-intersex-people-memo-says/">https://19thnews.org/2025/12/trump-administration-plans-to-end-prison-rape-protections-for-trans-and-intersex-people-memo-says/</a>
<a href="https://theneedlenews.com/2026/03/anti-trans-hate-groups-petitioning-fda-for-registry-of-trans-women-crackdown-on-transition-newly-revealed-document-shows/">https://theneedlenews.com/2026/03/anti-trans-hate-groups-petitioning-fda-for-registry-of-trans-women-crackdown-on-transition-newly-revealed-document-shows/</a>
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<a href="https://bsky.app/profile/angelic.style/post/3mgv3hjepvs2p">https://bsky.app/profile/angelic.style/post/3mgv3hjepvs2p</a>
<a href="https://bsky.app/profile/tinylesbianrobot.itch.io/post/3mgvbihtidu2m">https://bsky.app/profile/tinylesbianrobot.itch.io/post/3mgvbihtidu2m</a>
<a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4865109/#:~:text=Only%20346%20(18%25)%20of,Risk%20Evaluation%20and%20Mitigation%20Strategy">https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4865109/#:~:text=Only%20346%20(18%25)%20of,Risk%20Evaluation%20and%20Mitigation%20Strategy</a>
<a href="https://www.thepinknews.com/2026/03/19/tennessee-gop-advances-bill-that-would-create-public-list-of-trans-residents/?utm_content=1773928472&amp;utm_medium=social&amp;utm_source=twitter">https://www.thepinknews.com/2026/03/19/tennessee-gop-advances-bill-that-would-create-public-list-of-trans-residents/?utm_content=1773928472&amp;utm_medium=social&amp;utm_source=twitter</a>
<a href="https://trackbill.com/bill/tennessee-house-bill-754-an-act-to-amend-tennessee-code-annotated-title-1-title-4-title-33-title-56-title-63-title-68-and-title-71-relative-to-health-care/2644177/">https://trackbill.com/bill/tennessee-house-bill-754-an-act-to-amend-tennessee-code-annotated-title-1-title-4-title-33-title-56-title-63-title-68-and-title-71-relative-to-health-care/2644177/</a>
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<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/19/us/rfk-jr-transgender-care-ruling.html">https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/19/us/rfk-jr-transgender-care-ruling.html</a>
<a href="https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/4th-circuit-rules-that-states-can">https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/4th-circuit-rules-that-states-can</a>
<a href="https://bsky.app/profile/davidforbes.bsky.social/post/3mgv5httwss26">https://bsky.app/profile/davidforbes.bsky.social/post/3mgv5httwss26</a>
<a href="https://glaad.org/new-york-times-sign-on-letter-from-lgtbq-allied-leaders-and-organizations">https://glaad.org/new-york-times-sign-on-letter-from-lgtbq-allied-leaders-and-organizations</a>
<a href="https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/fbi-readies-new-war-on-trans-people">https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/fbi-readies-new-war-on-trans-people</a>
<a href="https://gnet-research.org/2025/07/18/meaning-through-its-opposite-significance-quest-theory-and-nihilistic-violent-extremism/">https://gnet-research.org/2025/07/18/meaning-through-its-opposite-significance-quest-theory-and-nihilistic-violent-extremism/</a>
<a href="https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/what-are-nihilist-violent-extremists">https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/what-are-nihilist-violent-extremists</a>&nbsp;
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<a href="https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/09/designating-antifa-as-a-domestic-terrorist-organization/">https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/09/designating-antifa-as-a-domestic-terrorist-organization/</a>
<a href="https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/09/countering-domestic-terrorism-and-organized-political-violence/">https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/09/countering-domestic-terrorism-and-organized-political-violence/</a>
<a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/DOykLZJDS2h/">https://www.instagram.com/p/DOykLZJDS2h/</a>
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The Trans Panic Clickbait Economy

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Margaret reads you a story about climate refugees, ancestors, and giant spider robots that weave webs of glass

Margaret reads you a story about climate refugees, ancestors, and giant spider robots that weave webs of glass

CZM Book Club: The Cloud Weaver's Song, by Saul Tanpepper

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