While artificial intelligence is moving rapidly from experimentation to execution, many companies still struggle to capture real value from the technology. In this episode, we’re joined by Professor Jean-Paul Carvalho and Robin Nuttall to explore how CEOs can more effectively scale AI and to discuss the technology's implications for the future of work and organizations.

Jean-Paul is Professor of Political Economy at the University of Oxford’s Department of Economics and Director of Oxford Elevate. Robin Nuttall is an expert partner in our London office and a leader of our regulatory strategy and environmental, social, and governance work. Robin is also a Business Fellow at the University of Oxford’s Economics Department.

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While artificial intelligence is moving rapidly from experimentation to execution, many companies still struggle to capture real value from the technology. In this episode, we&rsquo;re joined by <a href="https://www.economics.ox.ac.uk/people/jean-paul-carvalho">Professor Jean-Paul Carvalho</a> and <a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/our-people/robin-nuttall">Robin Nuttall</a> to explore how CEOs can more effectively scale AI and to discuss the technology's implications for the future of work and organizations. Jean-Paul is Professor of Political Economy at the <a href="https://www.economics.ox.ac.uk/">University of Oxford&rsquo;s Department of Economics</a> and Director of <a href="https://www.economics.ox.ac.uk/oxford-elevate">Oxford Elevate</a>. Robin Nuttall is an expert partner in our London office and a leader of our regulatory strategy and environmental, social, and governance work. Robin is also a <a href="https://www.economics.ox.ac.uk/people/robin-nuttall">Business Fellow</a> at the University of Oxford&rsquo;s Economics Department. Related insights <a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/strategy-and-corporate-finance/our-insights/how-ai-is-transforming-strategy-development">How AI is transforming strategy development</a> <a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/quantumblack/our-insights/the-state-of-ai">The state of AI in 2025: Agents, innovation, and transformation</a> <a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/tech-and-ai/our-insights/building-next-horizon-ai-experiences">Building next-horizon AI experiences</a> <a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/strategy-and-corporate-finance/our-insights/artificial-intelligence-in-strategy">Artificial intelligence in strategy</a>

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295. AI, strategy, and the future of work: What business leaders need to know 

Generative AI is reshaping the way investors evaluate opportunities and replacing much of the manual work involved in completing an outside-in diligence. Firms that adapt the fastest during this transition have the most to gain. To discuss how the deployment of gen AI in diligence can give organizations an investment edge and explore the shift from traditional diligence to AI-enabled, outside-in analysis we’re joined by David Pralong, a senior partner and the global leader of our Transformation Practice,  William Bundy, a partner in our Washington D.C office, Chase Covington, a partner based in our New York office, and Laura Borton, a consultant also based in our New York office.

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301. Using generative AI to conduct outside-in diligence

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295. AI, strategy, and the future of work: What business leaders need to know

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