While artificial intelligence is moving rapidly from experimentation to execution, many companies still struggle to capture real value from the technology. In this episode, we’re joined by Professor Jean-Paul Carvalho and Robin Nuttall to explore how CEOs can more effectively scale AI and to discuss the technology's implications for the future of work and organizations.

Jean-Paul is Professor of Political Economy at the University of Oxford’s Department of Economics and Director of Oxford Elevate. Robin Nuttall is an expert partner in our London office and a leader of our regulatory strategy and environmental, social, and governance work. Robin is also a Business Fellow at the University of Oxford’s Economics Department.

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While artificial intelligence is moving rapidly from experimentation to execution, many companies still struggle to capture real value from the technology. In this episode, we&rsquo;re joined by <a href="https://www.economics.ox.ac.uk/people/jean-paul-carvalho">Professor Jean-Paul Carvalho</a> and <a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/our-people/robin-nuttall">Robin Nuttall</a> to explore how CEOs can more effectively scale AI and to discuss the technology's implications for the future of work and organizations. Jean-Paul is Professor of Political Economy at the <a href="https://www.economics.ox.ac.uk/">University of Oxford&rsquo;s Department of Economics</a> and Director of <a href="https://www.economics.ox.ac.uk/oxford-elevate">Oxford Elevate</a>. Robin Nuttall is an expert partner in our London office and a leader of our regulatory strategy and environmental, social, and governance work. Robin is also a <a href="https://www.economics.ox.ac.uk/people/robin-nuttall">Business Fellow</a> at the University of Oxford&rsquo;s Economics Department. Related insights <a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/strategy-and-corporate-finance/our-insights/how-ai-is-transforming-strategy-development">How AI is transforming strategy development</a> <a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/quantumblack/our-insights/the-state-of-ai">The state of AI in 2025: Agents, innovation, and transformation</a> <a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/tech-and-ai/our-insights/building-next-horizon-ai-experiences">Building next-horizon AI experiences</a> <a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/strategy-and-corporate-finance/our-insights/artificial-intelligence-in-strategy">Artificial intelligence in strategy</a>

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295. AI, strategy, and the future of work: What business leaders need to know 

As artificial intelligence transforms how companies compete, many boards are grappling with how to provide effective oversight in this new era. Senior partners Aamer Baig, Celia Huber, and senior advisor Rebecca Schechter join host Sean Brown Inside the Strategy Room to discuss their recent article on how directors can rethink their guidance on AI adoption and readiness, while navigating risks that cut across strategy, talent, and governance.

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