In this episode, we speak with Eric Olson, a retired US Navy Admiral with a distinguished career in special operations, about the key principles of effective leadership, particularly in times of uncertainty. Eric shares insights from his experiences leading high-performing teams and organizations through complex challenges, offering valuable leadership lessons for executives in today's rapidly changing business landscape. 

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In this episode, we speak with Eric Olson, a retired US Navy Admiral with a distinguished career in special operations, about the key principles of effective leadership, particularly in times of uncertainty. Eric shares insights from his experiences leading high-performing teams and organizations through complex challenges, offering valuable leadership lessons for executives in today's rapidly changing business landscape.&nbsp; Related insights:
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<a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/people-and-organizational-performance/our-insights/the-organization-blog/trusted-advice-for-effective-leadership">Trusted advice for effective leadership</a>
<a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/strategy-and-corporate-finance/our-insights/the-ceo-as-chief-resilience-officer">The CEO as chief resilience officer</a>
<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/the-strategic-ceo-7236955032997216256/">The Strategic CEO newsletter</a>
<a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/strategy-and-corporate-finance/our-insights">McKinsey Insights on Strategy &amp; Corporate Finance</a>&nbsp;
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In each episode of our weekly podcast, we interview the world’s highest-performing CEOs, CFOs, innovators, and McKinsey experts and discuss how they build the courage, clarity, conviction, and cohesion that allow their businesses to win by moving faster than the world around them. 

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In each episode of our weekly podcast, we interview the world&rsquo;s highest-performing CEOs, CFOs, innovators, and McKinsey experts and discuss how they build the courage, clarity, conviction, and cohesion that allow their businesses to win by moving faster than the world around them.&nbsp;

261. Retired US Navy Admiral Eric Olson: Leading effectively in uncertain times 

As artificial intelligence transforms how companies compete, many boards are grappling with how to provide effective oversight in this new era. Senior partners Aamer Baig, Celia Huber, and senior advisor Rebecca Schechter join host Sean Brown Inside the Strategy Room to discuss their recent article on how directors can rethink their guidance on AI adoption and readiness, while navigating risks that cut across strategy, talent, and governance.

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As artificial intelligence transforms how companies compete, many boards are grappling with how to provide effective oversight in this new era. Senior partners <a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/our-people/aamer-baig">Aamer Baig</a>, <a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/our-people/celia-huber">Celia Huber</a>, and senior advisor <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/rebecca-schechter/">Rebecca Schechter</a> join host Sean Brown Inside the Strategy Room to discuss their <a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/mckinsey-technology/our-insights/the-ai-reckoning-how-boards-can-evolve">recent article</a> on how directors can rethink their guidance on AI adoption and readiness, while navigating risks that cut across strategy, talent, and governance.
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<a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/featured-insights/mckinsey-on-books/rewired">Rewired: How leading companies win with technology and AI</a>
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297. Boards in the age of AI

Companies that execute transformations with rigor are much more likely to achieve their goals, generate higher total shareholder returns, and enjoy better organizational health. In this episode, Preeya Mody and Dominic Skerritt join host Sean Brown to share insights from their latest research on the role of rigor in driving and sustaining successful transformations. They discuss what defines rigor in a transformation, explore the three elements that rigorous transformations consistently demonstrate, and share practical advice for sustaining momentum without burning out teams.

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Companies that execute transformations with rigor are much more likely to achieve their goals, generate higher total shareholder returns, and enjoy better organizational health. In this episode, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/preeyamody/">Preeya Mody</a> and <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dominic-skerritt/">Dominic Skerritt</a> join host Sean Brown to share insights from their latest research on the role of rigor in driving and sustaining successful transformations. They discuss what defines rigor in a transformation, explore the three elements that rigorous transformations consistently demonstrate, and share practical advice for sustaining momentum without burning out teams.
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<a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/transformation/our-insights/the-powerful-role-financial-incentives-can-play-in-a-transformation">The powerful role financial incentives can play in a transformation</a>
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296. The power of rigor in transformation

While artificial intelligence is moving rapidly from experimentation to execution, many companies still struggle to capture real value from the technology. In this episode, we’re joined by Professor Jean-Paul Carvalho and Robin Nuttall to explore how CEOs can more effectively scale AI and to discuss the technology's implications for the future of work and organizations.

Jean-Paul is Professor of Political Economy at the University of Oxford’s Department of Economics and Director of Oxford Elevate. Robin Nuttall is an expert partner in our London office and a leader of our regulatory strategy and environmental, social, and governance work. Robin is also a Business Fellow at the University of Oxford’s Economics Department.

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While artificial intelligence is moving rapidly from experimentation to execution, many companies still struggle to capture real value from the technology. In this episode, we&rsquo;re joined by <a href="https://www.economics.ox.ac.uk/people/jean-paul-carvalho">Professor Jean-Paul Carvalho</a> and <a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/our-people/robin-nuttall">Robin Nuttall</a> to explore how CEOs can more effectively scale AI and to discuss the technology's implications for the future of work and organizations. Jean-Paul is Professor of Political Economy at the <a href="https://www.economics.ox.ac.uk/">University of Oxford&rsquo;s Department of Economics</a> and Director of <a href="https://www.economics.ox.ac.uk/oxford-elevate">Oxford Elevate</a>. Robin Nuttall is an expert partner in our London office and a leader of our regulatory strategy and environmental, social, and governance work. Robin is also a <a href="https://www.economics.ox.ac.uk/people/robin-nuttall">Business Fellow</a> at the University of Oxford&rsquo;s Economics Department. Related insights <a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/strategy-and-corporate-finance/our-insights/how-ai-is-transforming-strategy-development">How AI is transforming strategy development</a> <a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/quantumblack/our-insights/the-state-of-ai">The state of AI in 2025: Agents, innovation, and transformation</a> <a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/tech-and-ai/our-insights/building-next-horizon-ai-experiences">Building next-horizon AI experiences</a> <a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/strategy-and-corporate-finance/our-insights/artificial-intelligence-in-strategy">Artificial intelligence in strategy</a>

261. Retired US Navy Admiral Eric Olson: Leading effectively in uncertain times

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