In this episode, we speak with Eric Olson, a retired US Navy Admiral with a distinguished career in special operations, about the key principles of effective leadership, particularly in times of uncertainty. Eric shares insights from his experiences leading high-performing teams and organizations through complex challenges, offering valuable leadership lessons for executives in today's rapidly changing business landscape. 

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In this episode, we speak with Eric Olson, a retired US Navy Admiral with a distinguished career in special operations, about the key principles of effective leadership, particularly in times of uncertainty. Eric shares insights from his experiences leading high-performing teams and organizations through complex challenges, offering valuable leadership lessons for executives in today's rapidly changing business landscape.&nbsp; Related insights:
<a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/featured-insights/mckinsey-on-books/ceo-for-all-seasons">A CEO for All Seasons: Mastering the Cycles of Leadership</a>
<a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/featured-insights/mckinsey-on-books/ceo-excellence">CEO Excellence: The Six Mindsets that Distinguish the Best Leaders from the Rest</a>
<a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/featured-insights/mckinsey-on-books/journey-of-leadership">The Journey of Leadership: How CEOs learn to lead from the inside out</a>
<a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/people-and-organizational-performance/our-insights/the-organization-blog/trusted-advice-for-effective-leadership">Trusted advice for effective leadership</a>
<a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/strategy-and-corporate-finance/our-insights/the-ceo-as-chief-resilience-officer">The CEO as chief resilience officer</a>
<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/the-strategic-ceo-7236955032997216256/">The Strategic CEO newsletter</a>
<a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/strategy-and-corporate-finance/our-insights">McKinsey Insights on Strategy &amp; Corporate Finance</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/mckinsey-strategy-corporate-finance/posts/?feedView=all">McKinsey Strategy &amp; Corporate Finance on LinkedIn</a>&nbsp;
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The world is moving faster, and as upheaval becomes the norm, vast business opportunities will be within the grasp of the extraordinary few.  But it takes bold people and courageous approaches to seize those opportunities and create value.

In each episode of our weekly podcast, we interview the world’s highest-performing CEOs, CFOs, innovators, and McKinsey experts and discuss how they build the courage, clarity, conviction, and cohesion that allow their businesses to win by moving faster than the world around them. 

The world is moving faster, and as upheaval becomes the norm, vast business opportunities will be within the grasp of the extraordinary few. &nbsp;But it takes bold people and courageous approaches to seize those opportunities and create value.
In each episode of our weekly podcast, we interview the world&rsquo;s highest-performing CEOs, CFOs, innovators, and McKinsey experts and discuss how they build the courage, clarity, conviction, and cohesion that allow their businesses to win by moving faster than the world around them.&nbsp;

261. Retired US Navy Admiral Eric Olson: Leading effectively in uncertain times 

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Executives have more data, more frameworks, and more advice than ever, and yet their confidence in their strategies keeps falling. Andy West, Tim Koller, and Whitney Zimmerman, authors of our forthcoming book Strategy and Value: The Four Foundations That Drive Long-Term Performance, join us to discuss how winning companies leverage the four foundations that drive long-term performance and value creation

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Executives have more data, more frameworks, and more advice than ever, and yet their confidence in their strategies keeps falling. <a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/our-people/andy-west?cid=cl4c-cml&amp;sid=%7b%7blead.SFDC%20Id:default=CL4C%7d%7d">Andy West</a>, <a href="https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fin%2Ftimkoller%2F&amp;data=05%7C02%7CClare_Kitada-SYDN%40external.mckinsey.com%7C7875f620e57d42762bfd08df1dbaa813%7Ccc8936bc93824fff87cb6f55999549e7%7C0%7C0%7C639262359712776817%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=KYa1NIG0Oree44OSE0ImMepkyDz3gAdYOwRTmqBa%2FRs%3D&amp;reserved=0">Tim Koller</a>, and <a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/our-people/whitney-zimmerman">Whitney Zimmerman</a>, authors of our forthcoming book <a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/featured-insights/mckinsey-on-books/strategy-and-value">Strategy and Value: The Four Foundations That Drive Long-Term Performance</a>, join us to discuss how winning companies leverage the four foundations that drive long-term performance and value creation
Related insights
<a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/featured-insights/mckinsey-on-books/strategy-and-value">Strategy and Value: The Four Foundations That Drive Long-Term Performance</a>
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<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmeGg9ruEhk&amp;list=PLFUo1mP7MU2M&amp;index=7">How to maximize competitive advantage</a> (podcast)
<a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/strategy-and-corporate-finance/our-insights/have-you-tested-your-strategy-lately">Ten Timeless Tests: Have you tested your strategy lately?&nbsp;</a>
<a href="https://prod.mckinsey.com/capabilities/strategy-and-corporate-finance/our-insights/how-top-economic-performers-lean-into-their-competitive-advantage-to-guide-their-strategy">How top economic performers lean into their competitive advantage to guide their strategy</a>
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324. How strategy creates value: The four foundations that drive long-term performance 

McKinsey research finds that companies executing transformations with rigor are much more likely to meet overall organizational transformation goals. Chris Hagedorn, Preeya Mody, and Michel Morenville join us to discuss what rigor really means in the context of transformation and how to embed it throughout the process, from setting the aspiration to mobilizing to delivering impact.

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McKinsey Transformation on LinkedIn

McKinsey research finds that companies executing transformations with rigor are much more likely to meet overall organizational&nbsp;transformation goals. <a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/our-people/chris-hagedorn?cid=cl4c-cml&amp;sid=CL4C">Chris Hagedorn</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/preeyamody">Preeya Mody</a>, and <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/michelmorenville/">Michel Morenville</a> join us to discuss what rigor really means in the context of transformation and how to embed it throughout the process, from setting the aspiration to mobilizing&nbsp;to delivering impact.
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<a href="https://omny.fm/shows/inside-the-strategy-room/296-the-power-of-rigor-in-transformation">The power of rigor in transformation</a> (podcast episode)
<a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/transformation/how-we-help-clients/wave/overview">Wave by McKinsey</a>
<a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/transformation/our-insights">McKinsey Insights on Transformation</a>
<a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/transformation/our-insights/how-to-gain-and-sustain-a-competitive-edge-through-transformation">How to gain and sustain a competitive edge through transformation</a>
<a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/transformation/our-insights/going-all-in-why-employee-will-can-make-or-break-transformations">Going all in: Why employee &lsquo;will&rsquo; can make or break transformations</a>
<a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/growth-marketing-and-sales/our-insights/seven-principles-for-achieving-transformational-growth">Seven principles for achieving transformational growth</a>
<a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/transformation/our-insights/beyond-transformation-what-we-now-know-about-driving-bottom-line-performance">Beyond transformation: What we now know about driving bottom-line performance</a>
<a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/transformation/our-insights/the-powerful-role-financial-incentives-can-play-in-a-transformation">The powerful role financial incentives can play in a transformation</a>
<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/mckinsey-transformation/">McKinsey Transformation on LinkedIn</a>

323. How to drive transformations with rigor 

Real estate is moving from stabilization to selective acceleration, with value creation becoming more targeted, operational, and execution-led. As capital concentrates in select sectors and strategies, leaders need sharper asset selection, disciplined capital structures, and stronger AI-enabled capabilities. Ben Dimson, Tripp Norton, and Aditya Sanghvi discuss how General Partners, Limited Partners, and real estate operators can turn market complexity into an advantage, drawing on research from their recent article.

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Real estate is moving from stabilization to selective acceleration, with value creation becoming more targeted, operational, and execution-led. As capital concentrates in select sectors and strategies, leaders need sharper asset selection, disciplined capital structures, and stronger AI-enabled capabilities. <a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/our-people/ben-dimson?cid=cl4c-cml&amp;sid=%7b%7blead.SFDC%20Id:default=CL4C%7d%7d">Ben Dimson</a>, <a href="https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fin%2Ftrippnorton&amp;data=05%7C02%7CClare_Kitada-SYDN%40external.mckinsey.com%7C9cf981f240e7412a8fab08df09158b39%7Ccc8936bc93824fff87cb6f55999549e7%7C0%7C0%7C639239660502865651%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=LXrLRRLkIpc960TcIa74AXYlQozOlYxl5GKN3HWxUD4%3D&amp;reserved=0">Tripp Norton</a>, and <a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/our-people/aditya-sanghvi">Aditya Sanghvi</a>&nbsp;discuss how General Partners, Limited Partners, and real estate operators can turn market complexity into an advantage, drawing on research from their recent <a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/private-capital/our-insights/global-private-markets-report/real-estate">article</a>. Related insights
<a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/private-capital/our-insights/global-private-markets-report/real-estate">Real estate builds on new terrain</a>
<a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/featured-insights/charts/real-estates-selective-recovery">Real estate&rsquo;s selective recovery</a>
<a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/real-estate/our-insights/how-agentic-ai-can-reshape-real-estates-operating-model">How agentic AI can reshape real estate&rsquo;s operating model</a>
<a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/private-capital/our-insights/global-private-markets-report?cid=cl4c-cml&amp;sid=%7b%7blead.SFDC%20Id:default=CL4C%7d%7d">2026 Global Private Markets Report</a><a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/private-capital/our-insights/global-private-markets-report/private-equity">: </a><a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/private-capital/our-insights/global-private-markets-report/private-equity">Private equity&minus;clearer view, tougher terrain</a>

261. Retired US Navy Admiral Eric Olson: Leading effectively in uncertain times

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