David Gitlin is Chairman and CEO of Carrier Global Corporation, a global leader in intelligent climate and energy solutions. With prior senior leadership roles in aerospace and manufacturing and extensive expertise across safety and operational excellence, David led the much-lauded 2020 Carrier spin-off from United Technologies—as the world grappled with the COVID-19 pandemic. In this episode, McKinsey senior partner and North America Chair, Eric Kutcher, talks with David about his journey as a CEO during a crisis, and explores his insights on rallying leadership, the board, and 50,000 employees across 160 countries to excel in their roles. 

This podcast was recorded on March 31, 2025.

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<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/david--gitlin/">David Gitlin</a> is Chairman and CEO of <a href="https://www.carrier.com/carrier/en/worldwide/">Carrier Global Corporation</a>, a global leader in intelligent climate and energy solutions. With prior senior leadership roles in aerospace and manufacturing and extensive expertise across safety and operational excellence, David led the much-lauded 2020 Carrier spin-off from United Technologies&mdash;as the world grappled with the COVID-19 pandemic. In this episode, McKinsey senior partner and North America Chair, <a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/our-people/eric-kutcher">Eric Kutcher</a>, talks with David about his journey as a CEO during a crisis, and explores his insights on rallying leadership, the board, and 50,000 employees across 160 countries to excel in their roles.&nbsp;
This podcast was recorded on March 31, 2025. Related insights <a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/strategy-and-corporate-finance/our-insights/how-judy-marks-leads-otis-worldwide-corporation-through-uncertainty-and-technological-evolution">How Judy Marks leads Otis Worldwide Corporation through uncertainty and technological evolution</a> <a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/strategy-and-corporate-finance/our-insights/the-art-of-21st-century-leadership-from-succession-planning-to-building-a-leadership-factory">The art of 21st-century leadership: From succession planning to building a leadership factory</a> <a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/featured-insights/mckinsey-on-books/author-talks-how-ibms-ginni-rometty-leads-with-good-power">Author Talks: IBM&rsquo;s Ginni Rometty on leading with &lsquo;good power&rsquo;</a> <a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/growth-marketing-and-sales/our-insights/achieving-growth-putting-leadership-mindsets-and-behaviors-into-action">Getting fit for growth: The leadership mindsets and behaviors that matter</a> <a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/strategy-and-corporate-finance/how-we-help-clients/ceo-excellence#managing-personal-effectiveness">CEO Perspectives</a>

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249. Becoming CEO, just in time for global crisis: David Gitlin, Chairman and CEO of Carrier Global Corporation

Health insurers are facing urgent challenges related to affordability, access, and how to safely and effectively leverage AI and emerging technologies. In this episode, McKinsey senior partner Celia Huber is joined by Brian Evanko, president and chief operating officer of The Cigna Group. In this role, Brian oversees all of the company's business units, including its two growth platforms: Cigna Healthcare, a health benefits business, and Evernorth, a health services business. Together, these business units serve customers in more than 30 countries.

From here, Brian has a unique view of the challenges facing the industry and the people it serves—including the fact that the vast amount of US healthcare spending goes toward chronic care. In their conversation, Brian shares his perspective on the innovation needed, such as through the adoption of AI, to improve affordability and support prevention.

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286. The Cigna Group’s Brian Evanko on improving affordability and prevention in healthcare

CFOs are increasingly helping lead transformations of their companies, which has a range of implications for how they manage their time and stay up to date with technology. Leading transformation has often been viewed as more focused on other members of the C-suite. McKinsey’s research shows the critical role that CFOs have in the success of a transformation. In this episode, we speak with three McKinsey experts on the subject.

Kevin Carmody is a senior partner and the global co-leader of our CFO and Finance Excellence Practice based in Chicago. Previously, Kevin was a founding member of our Transformation Practice and a member of its global operating committee. Christian Grube is a partner in our Munich office, and leads our CFO and Finance Excellence Practice across Europe. Matt Maloney is a partner in our New York office, and leads our CFO and Finance Excellence Practice in the Americas.

CFOs are increasingly helping lead transformations of their companies, which has a range of implications for how they manage their time and stay up to date with technology. Leading transformation has often been viewed as more focused on other members of the C-suite. McKinsey&rsquo;s research shows the critical role that CFOs have in the success of a transformation. In this episode, we speak with three McKinsey experts on the subject.
<a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/our-people/kevin-carmody">Kevin Carmody</a> is a senior partner and the global co-leader of our CFO and Finance Excellence Practice based in Chicago. Previously, Kevin was a founding member of our Transformation Practice and a member of its global operating committee. <a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/our-people/christian-grube">Christian Grube</a> is a partner in our Munich office, and leads our CFO and Finance Excellence Practice across Europe. <a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/our-people/matthew-maloney">Matt Maloney</a> is a partner in our New York office, and leads our CFO and Finance Excellence Practice in the Americas.

285. Keys to success for CFOs leading transformations

Leaders across both the public and private sectors are navigating an era of constant disruption. They're expected to deliver major transformations, manage complexity, and balance competing priorities, all while ensuring their own teams are running smoothly. This is why the role of chief of staff has never been more critical. In this episode, three McKinsey experts–all former chiefs of staff–share insights on when a chief of staff is needed and what qualities distinguish those who excel in the role.

Michelle Forrest is the global client capabilities leader in our Strategy and Corporate Finance Practice, and previously served as chief of staff to our former global managing partner, Kevin Sneader. Andrew Goodman is a senior partner in our London office, and leads our consumer technology and media practice across Europe. He has also led our Chief of Staff Forum and our research into the role of the chief of staff for the past decade. Previously, Andrew served as chief of staff for the McKinsey Centre for Government, our center of excellence that helps government leaders deliver better outcomes and experiences. Connor Rochford is an associate partner who previously served as chief of staff for the U.K.'s former Chief Medical Officer.

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<a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/our-people/michelle-forrest">Michelle Forrest</a> is the global client capabilities leader in our Strategy and Corporate Finance Practice, and previously served as chief of staff to our former global managing partner, Kevin Sneader. <a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/our-people/andrew-goodman">Andrew Goodman</a> is a senior partner in our London office, and leads our consumer technology and media practice across Europe. He has also led our Chief of Staff Forum and our research into the role of the chief of staff for the past decade. Previously, Andrew served as chief of staff for the McKinsey Centre for Government, our center of excellence that helps government leaders deliver better outcomes and experiences. <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/connor-rochford-748a3751/?originalSubdomain=uk">Connor Rochford</a> is an associate partner who previously served as chief of staff for the U.K.'s former Chief Medical Officer.
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