On this episode of If You Can Hear Me, Ben sits down with Shaunie Henderson, entrepreneur and creator of Basketball Wives, and Keion Henderson, senior pastor of The Lighthouse Church and Ministries in Houston. They open up about redefining success, slowing down, and leading a vibrant faith community together. Hear candid stories about transitioning from the hustle of LA to intentional living, the challenges and rewards of church leadership, and how marriage thrives amidst public scrutiny. The couple shares their unique takes on communication, evolving relationships, and what it means to truly listen and serve in today’s world.

TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Slowing Down With Intention
03:17 Life After Los Angeles
04:49 Feeling “Not Enough” and Letting Go
06:29 Basketball Wives Ends
07:54 Church Leadership Under a Microscope
08:26 Stories of Transformation at Church
11:18 Why Serve Through the Church
13:01 Protecting Personal Health and Awareness
13:38 Marriage, New Seasons, and Communication
15:21 Navigating Hard Conversations Together
19:19 Balancing Love and Leadership Roles
22:03 Differences in Leadership Styles
23:28 Stepping Into Church Leadership
25:07 Building a Hug Ministry
28:53 The Church’s Role in Society

On this episode of If You Can Hear Me, Ben sits down with Shaunie Henderson, entrepreneur and creator of Basketball Wives, and Keion Henderson, senior pastor of The Lighthouse Church and Ministries in Houston. They open up about redefining success, slowing down, and leading a vibrant faith community together. Hear candid stories about transitioning from the hustle of LA to intentional living, the challenges and rewards of church leadership, and how marriage thrives amidst public scrutiny. The couple shares their unique takes on communication, evolving relationships, and what it means to truly listen and serve in today&rsquo;s world.
TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Slowing Down With Intention 03:17 Life After Los Angeles 04:49 Feeling &ldquo;Not Enough&rdquo; and Letting Go 06:29 Basketball Wives Ends 07:54 Church Leadership Under a Microscope 08:26 Stories of Transformation at Church 11:18 Why Serve Through the Church 13:01 Protecting Personal Health and Awareness 13:38 Marriage, New Seasons, and Communication 15:21 Navigating Hard Conversations Together 19:19 Balancing Love and Leadership Roles 22:03 Differences in Leadership Styles 23:28 Stepping Into Church Leadership 25:07 Building a Hug Ministry 28:53 The Church&rsquo;s Role in Society

We’re all looking for something.

 

In If You Can Hear Me, Ben Higgins sits down with people from all walks of life—celebrities, thinkers, everyday folks—to talk about what drives us, what shapes us, and what gives us hope.

 

These are honest conversations about the big stuff: identity, loss, purpose, peace, faith, and everything in between. Some guests have answers. Most are still figuring it out.

 

If you’ve ever felt like there must be more to the story—this show is for you.

We&rsquo;re all looking for something.
&nbsp;
In If You Can Hear Me, Ben Higgins sits down with people from all walks of life&mdash;celebrities, thinkers, everyday folks&mdash;to talk about what drives us, what shapes us, and what gives us hope.
&nbsp;
These are honest conversations about the big stuff: identity, loss, purpose, peace, faith, and everything in between. Some guests have answers. Most are still figuring it out.
&nbsp;
If you&rsquo;ve ever felt like there must be more to the story&mdash;this show is for you.

If You Can Hear Me

Shaunie & Keion Henderson on Marriage, Faith & Basketball Wives Transition

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Go behind the scenes with Ben Higgins as he sits down with Lady A’s Charles Kelley for a candid conversation about faith, sobriety, and the power of second chances. Charles Kelley opens up about his journey through addiction, his evolving relationship with spirituality, and how his bandmates, family, and music have shaped his path toward wholeness. Hear the stories and insights that inspired his solo project, “Songs for a New Moon,” as well as what’s next for Lady A. It’s a raw, reflective, and unfiltered look at transformation, the importance of curiosity, and finding redemption in unexpected places.

TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Faith, Religion, and Curiosity
02:09 Sobriety and Spiritual Discovery
04:38 Reading Richard Rohr & Faith Journeys
06:09 Family, Bandmates, and Faith Development
08:06 Pressure and Support From Bandmates
10:16 Purpose, Legacy, and Living for More
14:40 God Beyond the Box
16:07 Struggling With Religious Exclusivity
18:35 The Catalyst for Change: Sobriety
22:12 Growth, Family, and God Moments
25:57 Life and Joy After Sobriety
27:22 Social Life Without Drinking
30:13 New Priorities, Legacy, and Respect
32:13 Marriage, Support, and Forgiveness
37:03 "Songs for a New Moon" Inspiration
41:42 Vulnerability, Shame, and Recovery
45:20 Lady A’s Next Chapter and New Music

Go behind the scenes with Ben Higgins as he sits down with Lady A&rsquo;s Charles Kelley for a candid conversation about faith, sobriety, and the power of second chances. Charles Kelley opens up about his journey through addiction, his evolving relationship with spirituality, and how his bandmates, family, and music have shaped his path toward wholeness. Hear the stories and insights that inspired his solo project, &ldquo;Songs for a New Moon,&rdquo; as well as what&rsquo;s next for Lady A. It&rsquo;s a raw, reflective, and unfiltered look at transformation, the importance of curiosity, and finding redemption in unexpected places.
TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Faith, Religion, and Curiosity 02:09 Sobriety and Spiritual Discovery 04:38 Reading Richard Rohr &amp; Faith Journeys 06:09 Family, Bandmates, and Faith Development 08:06 Pressure and Support From Bandmates 10:16 Purpose, Legacy, and Living for More 14:40 God Beyond the Box 16:07 Struggling With Religious Exclusivity 18:35 The Catalyst for Change: Sobriety 22:12 Growth, Family, and God Moments 25:57 Life and Joy After Sobriety 27:22 Social Life Without Drinking 30:13 New Priorities, Legacy, and Respect 32:13 Marriage, Support, and Forgiveness 37:03 "Songs for a New Moon" Inspiration 41:42 Vulnerability, Shame, and Recovery 45:20 Lady A&rsquo;s Next Chapter and New Music

From Rock Bottom to Purpose: How Sobriety Transformed My Faith and Life With Charles Kelley

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What does it really mean to step back from the spotlight and pursue a life of presence? Ben Higgins sits down with Grant Troutt and Madi Troutt for a candid conversation about intentional living, fighting for “irrelevance,” and unplugging from social media in today’s world. Hear their honest struggles, why they chose to be rooted locally, and how faith, accountability, and humility shape their story. The trio explores the impact of ego, staying grounded amid opportunity, parenting while growing spiritually, and how disappointment can lead to deeper faith. Plus: vulnerability, Bible engagement, and practical advice for building authentic community.

TIMESTAMPS
00:01 Living With Intentional Presence
01:29 Stepping Back From Social Media
02:01 Rest, Prayer, and “Fighting Irrelevance”
03:37 The Personal Impact of Logging Off
05:03 Social Media and Career Choices
06:15 Wrestling With Fear of Missing Out
09:00 College, Anxiety, and Comparison
11:05 Faith, Ego, and Self-Promotion
13:25 Rediscovering Authentic Christianity
15:32 Purity, Privacy, and Decision-Making
17:08 Set Apart Yet Engaged
19:31 Redefining “Of the World”
21:05 Personal Transformation Stories
25:22 Joy, Freedom, and Fulfillment
32:24 Navigating Ambition and Purpose
36:35 Letting Go of Limitations on God
42:07 Disappointment, Humility, and Stewardship
46:54 Life Updates and Local Roots
52:09 Wrestling With the Bible’s Role

What does it really mean to step back from the spotlight and pursue a life of presence? Ben Higgins sits down with Grant Troutt and Madi Troutt for a candid conversation about intentional living, fighting for &ldquo;irrelevance,&rdquo; and unplugging from social media in today&rsquo;s world. Hear their honest struggles, why they chose to be rooted locally, and how faith, accountability, and humility shape their story. The trio explores the impact of ego, staying grounded amid opportunity, parenting while growing spiritually, and how disappointment can lead to deeper faith. Plus: vulnerability, Bible engagement, and practical advice for building authentic community.
TIMESTAMPS 00:01 Living With Intentional Presence 01:29 Stepping Back From Social Media 02:01 Rest, Prayer, and &ldquo;Fighting Irrelevance&rdquo; 03:37 The Personal Impact of Logging Off 05:03 Social Media and Career Choices 06:15 Wrestling With Fear of Missing Out 09:00 College, Anxiety, and Comparison 11:05 Faith, Ego, and Self-Promotion 13:25 Rediscovering Authentic Christianity 15:32 Purity, Privacy, and Decision-Making 17:08 Set Apart Yet Engaged 19:31 Redefining &ldquo;Of the World&rdquo; 21:05 Personal Transformation Stories 25:22 Joy, Freedom, and Fulfillment 32:24 Navigating Ambition and Purpose 36:35 Letting Go of Limitations on God 42:07 Disappointment, Humility, and Stewardship 46:54 Life Updates and Local Roots 52:09 Wrestling With the Bible&rsquo;s Role

Fight to Be Irrelevant: Breaking Free from Social Media’s Grip | Madi & Grant Trout

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From Notre Dame football legend to ESPN, Manti Te'o joins Ben Higgins for an honest conversation about faith, resilience, and forgiveness. Manti Te'o explains his journey from a Mormon upbringing in Hawaii to becoming the face of a prestigious Catholic institution, details the infamous catfishing scandal, and the healing process that followed—including how forgiveness, faith, and family helped him overcome adversity and rebuild his identity. The two also address misconceptions about the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints and discuss practical advice for anyone facing bullying, misunderstanding, or moments of public scrutiny.

TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Growing Up Near South Bend
00:01:27 Choosing Notre Dame Over USC
00:02:08 Faith and Decision-Making
00:03:26 Adjusting to Notre Dame
00:05:30 Finding Common Ground in Faith
00:06:48 Family Visits and Spirituality
00:08:16 Addressing Faith Differences
00:10:20 Heisman Season and Public Spotlight
00:11:34 The Untold Docuseries Reflected
00:13:31 Healing After the Scandal
00:14:00 Separating Narrative from Reality
00:17:17 Losing and Finding Support
00:20:17 Rock Bottom, Faith, and Peace
00:21:42 Forgiveness Toward Others and Self
00:25:43 Handling Bullying and Memes
00:28:57 Rebuilding Identity and Resilience
00:30:16 Encountering the Catfisher’s Family
00:33:06 Addressing Mormon Misconceptions
00:41:17 Relationship to Jesus Christ
00:46:43 Encouragement for Those Struggling

From Notre Dame football legend to ESPN, Manti Te'o joins Ben Higgins for an honest conversation about faith, resilience, and forgiveness. Manti Te'o explains his journey from a Mormon upbringing in Hawaii to becoming the face of a prestigious Catholic institution, details the infamous catfishing scandal, and the healing process that followed&mdash;including how forgiveness, faith, and family helped him overcome adversity and rebuild his identity. The two also address misconceptions about the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints and discuss practical advice for anyone facing bullying, misunderstanding, or moments of public scrutiny.
TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Growing Up Near South Bend 00:01:27 Choosing Notre Dame Over USC 00:02:08 Faith and Decision-Making 00:03:26 Adjusting to Notre Dame 00:05:30 Finding Common Ground in Faith 00:06:48 Family Visits and Spirituality 00:08:16 Addressing Faith Differences 00:10:20 Heisman Season and Public Spotlight 00:11:34 The Untold Docuseries Reflected 00:13:31 Healing After the Scandal 00:14:00 Separating Narrative from Reality 00:17:17 Losing and Finding Support 00:20:17 Rock Bottom, Faith, and Peace 00:21:42 Forgiveness Toward Others and Self 00:25:43 Handling Bullying and Memes 00:28:57 Rebuilding Identity and Resilience 00:30:16 Encountering the Catfisher&rsquo;s Family 00:33:06 Addressing Mormon Misconceptions 00:41:17 Relationship to Jesus Christ 00:46:43 Encouragement for Those Struggling

Finding Peace After Being Knocked Down: Faith, Forgiveness, and Healing with Manti Te'O

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Shaunie & Keion Henderson on Marriage, Faith & Basketball Wives Transition

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