I WANT YOUR FLEX - Week 10 Recap/Review, Week 11 Waivers & More!

Published Nov 12, 2024, 5:32 PM

It's Fox Sports Radio's official fantasy football podcast! Dan Beyer and Mike Harmon open this edition of the show with their immediate thoughts and takeaways from a Monday Night Football matchup that saw the Dolphins take down the Rams in LA. Later, the guys get into the rest of the week's matchups, going through the studs and duds from each, and hitting on some of the broader storylines coming out as well... Where do the Bears go from here? Did McCaffrey's return inspire enough confidence in a 49ers season turnaround? Plus, with some intriguing options out there, Mike shares his hot waiver wire adds of the week!

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Well, what a mess. Week ten was. Maybe not as messed up as my voice, Mike Harmen, but I am back. Thank you guys for holding down the fort when I was in Oklahoma and then basically silenced by this bug that's been dealing with me for the last week or two. That bug seemed to infect the NFL in Week ten because there was a whole lot of hot garbage.

Yeah, no scoring whatsoever. Everybody needs a nice big bowl chicken soup, some vic vabo rub app liberally and then you wrap and saran rap. At least that was my mom's thing back in the day.

I like that you said it's dealing with you, though, Dan, not the other way around.

Charge Here, I'll tell you what. There were a lot of remedies. Everybody's got their own, and some of them, you know, worked, others didn't. It's you know, is it hot, is it cold? How do you deal with it? Because a lot of times when you lose your voice, people think like, oh, you got to do hot. But I've had many a doctor tell me you need cold, you need anti inflammatories so the vocal cords aren't strained. And so that's what i'd been doing for a while. Mary Mack, our teammate at Fox Sports Radio, gave me some throat coat. Again. I would change the name, but that's just.

And it's one of my favorite. I've got a big bucket of it.

Yeah. Yeah, it helped on Sunday and I hope it like propelled me to Monday. But here we are, But I am, I am, you know, me and Vick's but we've got we've got Mike. You know, there was the old days where you could get vics from nineteen seventy two and still use it at nineteen eighty nine, it was it was still good and you weren't running out of it. Now they have it like on the roll on, you know, with like sticks, like it's almost like a lipstick. Yet oh, that was the thing where the logo he faded over time.

Yeah, he like, how old is this? No idea? But there's still a third of a tub left, let's go.

It was that bad, you know, I kid you not. Some of these things of VIX were like truly like seventeen years old. But hey, they stood the test of time and they worked. It's amazing that you still had some left over no matter how sick you were.

Well, I wonder if we still have some some tubs of vic from nineteen seventy two that would still be good today.

And guaranteed I'm going to find someone eating just on principle, because that was the best.

Like that's when I had a sense of smell.

I lost mine before COVID some illness and whatever, infection whatever, But like back then, that was that was the thing that made you know you were alive in the winter. Yeah, and that Josh it punched you in the face.

Used VIX. He put some of my nose as well, right underneath you know, when you're stuffed up. Yeah, a lot of the games could have used VIS. On Sunday it was like we get this this dandy Bengals Ravens game, and then it's just a complete letdown, even up until Monday Night. We always talk about the Monday Night or on this podcast and Dolphins Rams. I don't know if Karen Williams is starting to become a thing with the non touchdowns. But the third straight game that he didn't score a rushing touchdown, in the second straight game he didn't score a touchdown period. But Rams just had a tough going of it against the Dolphins defense on Monday Night.

Rough run for the Rams, stafford an interception. Six straight games for him, the longest of his career. He goes for two hundred ninety three yards. He sacked four times, misses a couple of wide open receivers. You you also have a couple drop passes that were huge. Pukadakua ends up with, you know, empty calories for fantasy purposes.

You take them.

However, they come right, nine catches, ninety eight yards, Like, what a great day. You only said that if you didn't watch the game, sure, right, because it was awful all the way through. Cooper Cup ends up with a seven catch, eighty yard day. Great, fantastic, But again, if you watched it, it was painful. The fact that DeMarcus Robinson was out of the box score until the final two minutes. Who goes to the Dolphins. Dolphins defensive squad which had been giving up about twenty four game, but today they rally up right. Eight Chan does nothing on the ground, just thirty seven yards and his twelve carries, and you basically have a wash between the two rushing.

Efforts and eight Chan owners.

And I know because well I was one until Guillotine died in one of them that I had is the you know, you saw the touchdown pass to Tyreek Hill and you started cursing because like, even if you only had the thirty yards rushing or thirty seven yards rushing and what fifteen did have five receptions, So he helped you there barely falling forward, but you know, touchdown there makes that a lot more palatable game.

Yeah, absolutely, Instead.

It's all right, Yeah, he was good enough as a flex play instead of the top five that you know he was projected to be against this rams D so on both sides, Yeah, just tough sledding and for Kyron Williams behind the shuffled offensive line and the inefficiencies that are showing with Stafford, Yeah, it's going to be a tough sled the back half of the season.

Well, what do you think about to us since his return, because the Dolphins offense hasn't been what we had saw had seen in the previous couple of seasons now that he's been back. I mean, he can't complain from what they did offensively Monday night because they won the football game. But when you look at the numbers, you see too, his numbers, you're like, okay, all right, yeah, you know, two hundred yards that's threw a touchdown pass. Maybe not what you expected. And then you look at everybody else since your point about eight chan you Tyreek Hills touchdowns saved his awful night. Jayalen Waddell had a nice couple of catches here. He moster was nowhere to be found. Just really funky with the Miami Dolphins right now.

Yeah, pretty odd, right, I mean he finish his quarterback twenty two for the week. Stafford's right there with him. But you look at the last couple of weeks because even against the in the games the narrow losses to Buffalo into Arizona where they scored twenty seven points, still pedestrian numbers for yes, right, two thirty four and a touchdown in the twenty eight twenty seven lost Arizona two thirty one did have two touchdowns. Okay, solid against the Bills, but not world beating. Okay, that's nice, nice mid line kind of stuff. And then this week two oh seven, one and one, and look if he throws an interception, I don't want you going back trying to tackle anybody or getting the way I mean, you got unbelievable, you know. I like the I don't care, but he's he's man.

I also was listening to his post game afterwards, and he was kind of like joking about you know, he laughed about it a little bit, and I don't know he only laughed because this isn't a joke, you know, like this is your your life.

I I I don't care anymore. And I mean that in a way of if he's down with it, yeah.

If he's on the field, yeah right, I'm one hundred percent life. I'm just in the h I was just thinking from the coaching I need this guy another seven weeks from your your standpoint, Dan, I'm one hundred percent in agreement.

Right.

It's like if you're good or bad, Like, I don't care if you got a hurt ankle, the quad's messed up, shoulder hurts. Whatever, if you go between the white lines, we evaluate you the same. You don't get a bunch of well butts. You either win or you lose. You perform or you don't.

You know the seat to uh And I was just reading some stats that since he returned, he had the highest success rates on pass is for first downs than anybody else in the in the NFL. And that's all fine and dandy, but you're not seeing the seventy yarders to Tyreek Hill. You're not seeing those anymore. And maybe the way that you now defend the Dolphins and try to try to avoid those. But if that's the case and this is what defenses are giving Miami, then you could expect a lot more of this because it had to. His numbers have been consistent. Tyreek Hill's numbers have not been I mean, when you go from four catches for eighty yards to three to sixteen, that's quite the gap, but it's still four catches are three catches, you know, so there's there's not as much variation with the Dolphins. And I'm just wondering now, like, are you capped? I wouldn't. I can't trust Raheem most anymore. I think people wanted to when he in the second half of this season. I just think that the Dolphins now are just kind of pedestrian when it comes to fantasy football.

Yeah, I can't trust any of them, no at all. I mean, eight Chan is still going to be a back end two. Tyreek Hill is going to be a mid to back two. Like like you said, three for sixteen. Saves his day with the one yard touchdown catch, but otherwise he's being disappeared. That's his first touchdown since Week one. Yeah, go all the way back and that was the eighty yard after you know, the the fumble right, the punch out, fumble recovery and touch back and that's it.

Like he's been a giant gap in between.

How about I pose this and you could jump into because I think we're all gonna be on the same page. What three headed monster would you rather go forward with? Kyen, Puka and cup or eighth Chan, Wattle and Tyreek.

I'm gonna grit my teeth, but I'll still I'll take the Rams. My answer would secret options see find me another trio, but I'll take the Rams even with the inefficiencies.

Going right now, I down with the Rams.

Yea Rams, You're at least getting the completions, right, sure, especially when we talk about the fact that the vast majority of lee are now at least half PPR, if not full, So I know I'm at least getting Stafford completing the ball. Whether I'm getting five yards of catch doesn't matter, because each one of those points counts.

Yeah, And my point too is how often when the Dolphins are playing a game that you'd rather have the other team's offensive weapons. Yeah, but I think that's where we are now with the Miami Dolphins and to his return and a tyment right now in what is a jacked up AFC, completely jacked up heading into this weekend, and I said this on my Sunday show, there were six teams entering the weekend with two losses. Ian's Jets weren't even one of those teams. Like, it was so bad for the AFC because you had the Jaguars, you had the Patriots, you had the Raiders, you had the Browns. They were on by six teams had entered the weekend with a loss, and it allowed Ian's crappy Jets to still be considered in the playoff picture because heck, well they only had they had three wins. At least it put them tenth, you know, and that excuse me, Yeah, it was in the tenth spot, so you know. So it's just it's crazy, like how bad that conference actually is because we talk about, you know, the good teams and whatnot. The Dolphins, now with their third win, as crazy as it is, could be difficult, but they're not completely out of it just yet. Even though having three wins through ten weeks of the season is not a recipe for success.

In the playoffs, would you like me to give you the even crazier part going forward as much as we're looking at the numbers and and look, the show is now, right, the podcast is now. Thank you all for listening and tuning in and being part of our extended family. The Dolphins have the third weakest remaining schedule in all the NFL. Tampa at three twenty eight. The last opponent they have that is on the plus side as the Chargers. Then you have Indianapolis. They've got two games on the plus side, the Lions and the Broncos. Miami three games over there, Green Bay, Houston, San Francisco. None of those teams what we were expecting, right, Jordan loves turning the ball over a ton. Houston has a lot of problems that were masked up early, not anymore. We'll see what happens with the receiving corps what have you. But that offensive line is terrible and Stroud looks a little bit gun shy in terms of taking his shots. And then San Francisco they get McCaffrey back. That wasn't a pretty win on Sunday to win, but it wasn't pretty on the other side. They've got the Raiders, they've got the Browns, they've got the Patriots and Ian they got you twice winning percentage for the remaining teams for the Dolphins three ninety five.

Wow. Well, I should say I stumbled upon it. But when the Broncos lost to the Chiefs on Sunday, I just was like, Oh, that's gonna come back to bite Denver. Then I just looked at the rest of the AFC and I'm like, yeah, probably not, you know what I mean, Like realistically, like you're battling the Colts right now, who are a mess themselves. The Bengals obviously are a threat but you know when you're looking for that final wild card. Yeah, it's not a it's not a battle Royale that you would have hoped that it would have been. Instead, it's just a bunch of crap in the AFC, and whoever's crap floats towards the end actually may have a shot at making them mostly done.

Oh man, boy and c As we head into week eleven, what do you got ian No.

I'm just gonna say, like, because of yeah, what you were saying, there probably is going to be a nine to eight team that sneaks in, which is just kind of weird to think about.

Right, Yeah, but yeah, I mean you go through Indianapolis, like you said, is got the the second easiest schedule remaining Miami there, uh, and then you drift up a little bit. Denver teams they have remaining have a nice even five hundred record. Cincinnati's right there with them at five hundred. You've got but they've got the Steelers twice, They've got the Chargers, and they've got the Broncos on the other side. To see common opponents on the negative side for Cincinnati and Denver, they both play the Browns.

Okay, well, I'll say this when Ian said, like nine and eight, you know, can get you in the playoffs, that isn't too surprising. What's surprising is that there is a playoff picture right now where you don't have five teams. Remember, Mike get a couple a couple of years ago, we laughed because the NFC playoff picture had fourteen teams in it. Yeah, you know, like there are only like two teams, teams.

That were off the grid.

Yeah. Yeah, And that's what happens when you expand the playoffs to seven teams. Everybody is still in the playoff picture. But the AFC right now is so bad at the bottom that I don't know how you could have any more than ten right now.

It's like the Bills running away and hiding in the East. Yeah, three three win teams behind them. Yes, a little bit of cannibalism there in the North with the Steelers and Ravens. They'll play this week, which will be on Houston. The imperfect six and four Indianapolis had their chance and went and got throttled by Buffalo Tennessee and Jacksonville deplorable. And then you've got the Chiefs at nine and zero, Chargers six and three, the Broncos at five and five, and then the hapless Raiders who should were Sanders keeps thanking every time they lose. So all that to say, it goes back. We've talked about it for years on this podcast. Ian's new to this one with us Dan Parody's bad. Sure, the striving for parity is bad because this is what we get.

The Bills on the tiebreaker over the Dolphins because of the season sweep, and if they beat the Jets in Buffalo, they'll have that tiebreaker and they likely will then have a five game lead when there's only seven games remaining now, you know in the National Football League regular season, at least for Buffalo and the Jets, you know, for that situation. I mean, you know, this is this thing could be over next week. Yeah, I mean it's yeah, it's it's pretty absurd.

All right, let's go into the backups. Who's Buffalo running out there? My prediction of Josh Allen, his MVP goes to hell because he may be's sitting down like he's Peyton Manning back to to day.

He does the Queen's Wave and walks off.

We lost one week of preseason football and got four more of it. On the back half, thanks a lot. Roger Goodell all right, he's like, Huhirk, I'm dan Byer, Ian Roddy's our executive producer. Hit Mike up at Swollen Dome. Can find me at dan Byer on Fox and get Ian at Ian Roddy Underscore. All right, we're gonna give our report cards. We've got our waiver wire that's coming up next, but we'll also dive into what happened this past week and what we did say was kind of a crappy Week ten. Christian McCaffrey's returning so much more. That's next here on I want your flex welcome back. I am dan Byer. That's Mike Carmen. Ian Roddy's our executive producer. My Seahawks were off in week ten, and I'm I think I had the best week amongst US three because with that happened, with what happened to Mike's Bears against New England and Ian's Jets against the Cardinals. Can't help but laugh, Yeah, rough week. At least the Seahawks didn't play. That's a little bit easier for me than what you guys had to deal with.

Ian. I'll let you go first, I got to compose myself.

Yeah, I mean I also have to compose myself as well. I'm still I'm still upset with the Jets. But if the season wasn't already over, it's it's it's over now.

Yeah, I don't know at what point on the Jets side of things, like why people continue to have hope.

I look, anyone who talked to me this week leading up knew that I was saying I could easily see them losing this game, and in fact I expected them to lose this game. Did I expect them to look that bad? No, But this is just it was so on brand for them to get everyone's hopes up last week with the win over Houston. Looked pretty good in the second half, like you might have figured something out, and then they just come out so flat from the beginning of the game against Arizona. It's just it's so on brand. And now, just as a jetsman, I know they're going to win against Indy next week, Like I'm going to put money on that game personally, because this is what they do. They're going to win when it's too late. Sure, that's what they do every time.

Well, you know, the Texans were obviously shorthanded at wide receiver and Mike mentioned earlier some of their struggles that they've been experiencing. But it was also a home game on a short week. You get a lot of momentum with that, and there's an advantage to doing that, and I think people bought in and believed that, all right, that was the turnaround. And also people just for some reason don't believe that the Arizona Cardinals are any good and it is a big faux paws on their part to think that. I mean, they are truly a team. Trey Benson taking up his own role, you know, the Cardinals are a good squad. It was just funny for me to people from people believing in the Jets, thinking like, all right, this is going to be the week when the Jets are who they are. Nothing that's going to change. Aaron Rodgers is who he is and that's who they are, and their coaching staff isn't good enough to change anything. In Arizona, sitting there right now atop that NFC West just you know, having a good old time.

Right And we talked about the Rams.

They had an opportunity to make some noise and at least keep pace, they lose to the Dolphins, your Seahawks on the by watching it all transpire. But you know, we don't do a lot of game prediction, right, that's become a huge thing in our.

Whatever.

Everybody's going to do their picks against the spread, whatever. Jason and I do a couple on Friday and it's usually all right, one or two upsets and leave it at that. And I picked both the Cardinals and the Patriots, and he tried to keep me from the Patriots, saying, no, you're just mad as a Bears fan. I'm like, no, I'm being real, Like, there are a lot of problems with this team. This is not emotional. I didn't think they were that great coming in. I thought it would look a little prettier, but yeah, you know, the guts of it were still bad. The offensive line, like you could go and grab all the wide receivers you want, you can't protect a quarterback. He's up to thirty eight sacks taken on the year after this debacle.

That video that's going viral of the Patriots lineman helping him up after the sack.

That's not agreatable. No, that's just it.

Right, Your alignment are nowhere to be found. This guy feels pity on him because you're writhing around on the ground in pain because you've been hit once again. We get down into the final minutes of the game, just like last week, it's a lost cause you're not moving the football. He's getting his ass kicked and he's still in the game. And I get it. It's nineteen to three, like it's the NFL. It's only a two possession games like No, it might as well have been.

A forty point lead.

The way that game played out, just an absolute disaster, abject failure. Williams sixteen of thirty for one hundred and twenty yards. Again, the nine sacks on the day, missing wide open receivers, and like, I'd be curious, I'd love to pay a couple of alignment, a couple of quarterbacks to just sit with me for an hour and let's go through his thirty eight sacks and you decide which column they go on and see if we can come to some consensus. Because it's easy to blame the lineman. And the line line is bad, right, we saw that even you know, but even with the shuffling this week. Because I don't I don't know how much of this got mentioned. They were down several starters again, more shuffling, but you were already faulty before that. And now your game plan is still We're going to drop back and pass against the team that is giving up ample yardage every game on the ground, Like we talked about it, and part of the breakdown, and we'll get to the report card was like teams are running all over them for fantasy purposes. They were a bottom five defense. Yet you Roshawn Johnson sees the ball once right, You're you're not going and barreling in to try to get the four yards on first down to make it easy setups for second and six or second and five or whatever. Like just flawed all around you. You watched Waldron for years, and you know, you bring back Eberflus. It's a whole other cluster the way the organization is run. But for Caleb Williams, now it becomes the all right, He's the latest in a long line of NFL quarterbacks these last couple of years that gets buried based on some bad coaching decisions and the development of some bad habits that they then can't break.

Yeah, you know, and and and Waldron was available because there was a coaching change, not that he was pried away. And you know, we talked a lot about the Jackson Smith and Jigbit comments as well. Bring that up, but you know a lot of times they even't sought. This past week of just a refresher of the Seahawks fans when they found the news that, you know, the Bears were going to hire Waldron, and nobody was nobody was really you know, nobody was really.

Mad Bears fans when the Raiders hired Getsy. It's like, hey, good luck with that. Yeah, fine, they took Jackson Smith and jig quote basically, yeah, good luck.

DJ Moore has been DJ less. Yeah, you know for the last month.

Three catches twenty four yards in this.

One, yes, which isn't too far off from what he's done the previous three games. Four catches thirty three yards, two catches twenty seven yards, four catches twenty yards. I do think there was something on the route that he did take off. You know, it was an awful look. I do think something did happen there. But when everything else is going on around him, sometimes you don't get that leeway. You don't get that uh that that that moment of grace, if you will. So it was uh And then him and Caleb Williams bumping shoulders. I know I wasn't here last week, but after the Arizona gam like there, you know, Williams prying himself off the field again, slowly walking off, and he and Dj Moore like they're in you know, middle school hallways and their two rivals and they bumped shoulders and nobody moves and they just continue to walk in opposite directions.

Just yeah, tough, tough look silliness.

At this point, for Dj Moore, the one thing he can, you know, rest quietly on is the giant mountain of money that the Bears gave him this offseason, as chronicled so beautifully in the Hard Knocks edition of the Bears, one of the top storylines in what was otherwise a nice bedtime story because corg as hell. But no cursing, no, no firings, no anything, all positivity until it's not. Patriots didn't have to do anything grandiose. I do, like Drake may, I think the kid can play. It's just a function of all right, bringing in some more talent around him and developing their Ramandre Stevenson always a solid running back when he doesn't drop it. I know that's a big caveat, but again, a guy, if you give him twenty carries, he takes care of business. Not world beating, but steady as they go. Not much to write home about from a receiving standpoint, you know, from the Patriots side. But yeah, for Chicago it's it's pretty much in the tank. Like we were talking about with the Rams, or I should say, with the Dolphins. How much do you trust any of these guys.

At this point?

I don't.

Right Switch still going to be a starter as a number two.

That's gonna be a big list though, because we're starting to decide we really hate, you know, I love the Drake. I hate the Drake, not Drake May in this case, just the old Seinfeld reference. I don't want anything to do with the Chicago players because once again, cole Comet's also an afterthought.

Sure after a couple of.

Monster games, like all right, they got it, they got their connection.

Two catches, thirteen yards.

Christian McCaffrey had six catches for sixty eight yards in his forty nine Ers debut, to go along with thirteen carries and thirty nine yards. Is this a thumbs up? Is this a thumbs down? Or is it maybe right hand thumbs down, left hand thumbs up considering the rushing wasn't too good and the receiving was no, I don't want to say exceptional, but pretty good.

I'll take one hundred plus total yards and and nineteen touches in my return to the field.

Right.

We talked about it last week, Dan while you were out of Hey, if he's going to be active, I don't know what I'm getting, but they're not going to do it for giggles.

Yeah, right.

I mean, especially go back to when that diagnosis came down and we were all going to our online medical the sources to try to figure out what the hell they were talking about with his legs as to how dire it was, right, because all the internet doctors are like those things are going to pop at any moments, like well, they're gonna find out, and if they do, he's going to have the maximum number of touches his body can withstand when he returns to the field. And you know, while it wasn't world beating again, you get you get a pretty good PPR day out of Himah six catches.

The one good thing with the forty nine ers, which I again they Tampa made a nice comeback at the end and Moody missed a bunch of kicks. I stated, no more excuses. I want to see it. Fantasy wise, everybody was still getting theirs, Juwan Jennings, Ricky Pierce, all new names instead of what we would get with say Brandon Aiyuk being in the mix. But CMC got his Deebo, Samuel got a few carries, got a few catches, George Kittle cut a touchdown. Nothing dropped off. Despite the problems that San Francisco or the adversity San Francisco has faced so far in the first part of the year, maybe you know there is continued more value with Juwan Jennings, who had a team high eleven targets in that game.

Yeah, three point fifty three for prety contract year, all of those things. So we hang a star on that as we go deeper in. He's got your Seahawks next at home that came on Fox, then at Green Bay, at Buffalo, and then the back half of the schedule. I mean, look, they don't have any They've got a pretty tough road. As you go through in the Bears whatever rams at home at Miami home against Detroit, and then on the road at Arizona, which could be the battle for the division at that point.

Well, well, the Seahawks are not happy with their linebackers and they continue to make changes after change after change. We'll see how those linebackers respond to CMC crew coming up here in week eleven. Any other standouts from what we had in week ten? There was there was one thing that that I wanted to point out. I don't know if it's as as big of a deal as is maybe the other scenarios that that have played out, But what about the Denver backfield? Mike Barry gums one, Okay, all right, hey, you know what perfect we could? We could? We can?

We can leave want to it ahead?

Yeah, well we'll tease it. We'll tease it ahead, Michael, breakdown the Broncos backfield. Plus, we'll do our report cards, see how we even did, Ian did and I even set my picks into the guys, and I'll grade myself for what was a again below average week of football action, especially considering what the Thursday night gave us. Hopefully we were better than below average on our picks. We'll find out next here and I want your flex, all right, wrapping things up here on I want your flex. Get Mike at Swollen Dome, find me dan Byer at dan Byer on Fox, and you can get Ian Roddy at Ian Roddy Underscore. So I teased the Broncos backfield, and in fact, Mike, I thought this was going to be the week the Chiefs were going to get their first loss. I had talked about it where if I had to pick a game, I thought it would probably be a divisional game Broncos or Raiders. And I really like Denver And what do you know, oh so close, but you know what they say and only in horseshoes and hand grenades. But there is a takeaway from what Denver did against Kansas City, and that may be a changing of the guard in the backfield.

Well, what we've seen, we know mcglothin. At this point, we know Javonte Williams, Austin estime gets his opportunity. Fourteen carries fifty three yards nearer, fifty percent snapshare as time, it's it's time, time for a change, nicely done. I like that.

Good time This time man.

Time has come today.

So yeah, I mean opportunity here second half of the season, Sean Payton trying to figure out where he can get a jump start. And this was a guy we talked about going back to the preseason, Dan thinking thinking he'd have an opportunity given you know, Williams has had his moments but hasn't been world beating and that you know, estimate when healthy would probably see an opportunity, uh to at least make a splash. And here, I mean they almost jumped up and stung the Chiefs part of it. You know, it's not a huge yards per carry average, but good burst, good power, good opportunity.

Yeah, yeah, it's not a burn by any means. But if they're gonna go young and they like what he's got, you got this, you know, rookie and rookie backfield and Courtland Sutton doing this thing at the receiver position. So yeah, maybe Denver's got a little something again in the AFC on there that doesn't take much and at five and five right now, that's good enough to get you the final wild card in the AFC.

Yeah, pretty good defense, right that we've Yeah, good kind of cliped that off as the season went on bo Nicks. There are moments where it's like, all right, it's starting to come together, and then there are others where while he's not down in the Caleb Williams world, there's still the I could I wait for the immediate reaction shot from Sean Payton when a play goes awry or you know the mystery misthrow or you know, absorbs a bad sack or starts running around haplessly. But he's got the wheels enough to at least get himself out of trouble on occasion. So all that to say, you know, maybe some brighter heads days ahead for that offense.

I know this team was blown up by the Ravens the week prior. That's going to happen to you. To lose the close one to the Chiefs. I mean they're five losses of being five and five. They lost his Chiefs Ravens, Chargers, Steelers in the Seahawks on opening Day.

Feeling pretty good about that, right, four playoff teams in the Seahawks circling.

Yeah, yeah, I like it. I like it. And they beat Nos time was very good. They beat the Jets too, so you've got a tiebreaker over them. But they've beaten who they've I guess now as we look back at the season and see where everybody is, they've beaten who they've needed to beat. And when you've got a schedule that includes the Falcons and Raiders again and the Browns coming up and Colts like those are all again winnable games for you for Denver before you end with Chargers, Bengals and Chiefs. So it could be, uh, you know, Denver's gonna want to make their hay. But if that he's in the bar and it could bode well for them in the postseason. Speaking yeah, speaking of voting well, Ian, how do the streaming defense is going Week ten?

So it was a split down the middle because I gave you guys to the Giants and the Bills. Now the Giants will start with the bad news. The Giants only gave you three points, So I guess the glass half full version of that is that they didn't lose you any points, which, as we've seen with defenses, can be the case.

Getting run over by m Hubbard and said question my contract will you yeah?

Exactly fifty three? Yeah. So they had some issues with Hubbard on his new contracts and stuff. But you know again, still three points isn't as bad as it could have been. But but the Bills seventeen points, so that has the potential to have one year week just having that advantage in the defensive category. They had three interceptions, a fumble recovery, four sacks, and a touchdown.

So yeah, that touchdown right away? Yeah you want to talk about me?

Yeah, spiking, Yeah, so that happened. I already knew the Bills one was going to hit.

So that's where you start getting greedy. It's like, how bad can this get?

I'll tell you what the flower on Flacco is off in Indianapolis. Right, you have now seen the turn again. People forget like Flacco for the Browns were so bad that Joe Flacco just had to play a couple of good games and people forgot about everything. But he threw two pick sixes in that division or in that wild card game against the Houston Texans.

Yeah, it's also funny now to look back that he wanted over DeMar Hamlin, who Now Hamlin's been having a pretty good year. He has a few interceptions or Flacco just looks the complete opposite. So not that it's like, you know, revisionist history should have been the other way.

But that is the funniest controversy to me, this this Comeback Player of the Year award that that is still talked about. And for those of you that may be listening to the podcast, Joe Flacco won it last year because of what he did and coming in and taking over for for you know, for the Browns that they're quarterbacking carousel that they had in Cleveland. But there was so much hype around Tomorrow Hamlin's return from almost dying on the football field and coming back and playing that they made sure that the criteria was clear now and a situation like Hamlin's would trump what Flacco did. If you were thinking about a comeback Player of the year, crazy that you would that you would care so much about this award. I mean tomor Hamlin only played in three games last year, right, you know, Like I don't I know that sounds awful considering you know again of what he went through and how awful that night was and everything leading up to it and wanting it. But like I get it for those who were like, man, this comeback story for Joe Flacco being on the couch, I totally get it at the end. Off was like, uh, you aren't going to ruin our great story. You're not going to do it. It's not going to happen. So they changed the.

Rules the impact versus you know, impact capital I versus lowercase I, right on the football field versus global you know, messaging and everything else that he can do with Deamorrow hamblin. But from a football perspective, yeah, Joe Flacco coming in leading you know, the Browns, the Browns coach of the year, Stefanski too.

For a while, he was the odds.

On favorite to be the first coach fired because of the Deshaun Watson thing, even though really it's Haslam doing the hostage negotiating thing going in.

But yeah, well so you know, so when Flacco leads the Browns to four straight wins to close out the season, they clinched the playoff birth and then he doesn't play in Week eighteen. But in the in the six games that he played, this is again this people forget this stuff. He threw fourteen touchdowns, he threw ten interceptions in those six games. So Ian, kudos to you on the Bills pick. And now people are just wondering, like, remember Joe Flacco didn't get a starting job in the NFL, and you would think that the way that we talk about him, that he would have been a starter amongst, you know, teams in the National Football coming off of what he did. But the interceptions were a problem. And the interceptions are a problem again.

But it becomes the what is he compared to X, Y or Z. Right in Cleveland, I think if you pulled people even with those ten interceptions, you won games.

Oh yeah, I did it.

So did Deshaun Watson. Thing throw them out, same thing. Anthony Richardson's so been so erratic and confusing. It was like, yeah, well the old adage though, dan he in the you know, backup quarterbacks the most popular guy in the world until he actually has to play.

It's very true, and that the conversation al in Indy is like, Okay, if we are gonna lose, then why don't we just see what our other guy, what our first round pick does have, or at least allow him to work through it if Joe Flacco isn't that much better. Flacco did throw for three hundred yards excuse me for in five the final five games that he had last season, So even though he had all those interceptions, he did have the yardage in four of those games were wins. So but all right, I think about the Bills, and.

He also had stories and questions coming out of the Bears thing. Not to go back to that topic, but hey, should Caleb Williams still be the starter?

It's like, what are we doing?

Yeah? Anyway, good tyson bag. It's like, yes he should be, Yes, he should be the starter.

I want to get killed, collect my contract. I do not want to play behind that o line. Yes, four have Shane Waldron calling plays for me.

Oh man, well, all right, my game, my my games that I had Survivor took the Chargers.

There you go.

That was that was a solid win. My Points of Palooza only provided thirty seven points. But if Yung Waiku would have made more field goals, I would have been more happy about it. But I had Saints, Falcons and kind of a one going out on a limbit and what was a bad week and there were one sided games. I'm not going to kill myself beat myself up over it for picking the Saints and Falcons for being the points of loose up. I will say my Oasis pick to it. Did not listen to me to slide away. And I also realized after I did it, I go, I think I did slide away in week one, so I've already doubled up songs. So a bad job by me. But two only threw one touchdown pass, so I can't say that I cashed in on Monday Night football.

Well, you wanted him to slide and get out of harm's way. Listen, go back to that interception, retrot what are you doing? Or down and towards the he's on a scramble. It's like, get down, get down. But to your point, Dan, and I agree with you. Hey, you do what you're gonna do?

Yeap oh man crazy?

Yeah, my report card was boy, I failed. I'd be repeating whatever grade this week was a tough one.

I mean did okay?

Quarterback wise right with the four of my top five finished in the top eleven, okay, I'll take it. Not pretty running back top five only one finished in the top twelve, so only as one RB one. The rest of them, including Saquon Barkley. Barkley was twenty seven in that beat down. Right, didn't need him. McCaffrey, who is I had the star on sitting in the six position, finished tenth in PPR league. So we're feeling good. Wide receiver, same thing, just awful all around. Milik Neighbors thanked. I gotta keep reminding myself when you want to talk about Melik Neighbors, remember Daniel Jones or somebody else is throwing him the football ergo, don't bother the others. All failures number six and the seven. The honorable mentions were Saint Brown and Tyreek Hill. At least he'll scored. I'm desperate here, I need some kind of positivity.

Yeah.

On the hot plays, we did have George Pickens and Drake London as two of our guys cold soars. Caleb Williams has said stay as far away as possible. Tony Pollard finishes RB twenty three, so those are two wins there. And then on the Ninja list, I did have Trey Benson on the list and so he at least gave you, you know, enough to be in back end RB two and Tyrone Tracy finished as RB eight. Otherwise losses really light up the board. Back to the wide receivers, Jefferson and Cooper Cup was eighteenth. I'm not taking a win on that Diebo was twenty third. Devonte Adams finished thirty fifth in what could have been a plus matchup or at least look like one. Bresee Hall see Jet suck. He was twenty first. Sorry, I'm taking out my anger on you in hey.

Kyron Williams was.

Twenty first, so he gave us not much of anything. The hot plays Stafford finished twenty twenty first to two is twenty second. Aaron Jones was number nineteen, Jonathan Taylor was number fourteen, DeAndre Swift number thirty two. Again going back to this was the worst, one of the worst run defenses in the game. Didn't matter. Bears continue to flail along the way. So we'll take our l's take our lumps. Get ready for Week eleven as the Giant, Cardinals, Buccaneers, and Carolina Panthers all take the week off.

That's a pretty good week off of teams.

I was gonna say, other than Baker Mayfield and Bucky Irving and the Cardinals. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll miss James Connor. I like watching that guy.

Sure, Marvin Arrison Junior as well. Heck Trey McBride, what a game he had running over all of the New York Jets.

This past weekend the highest yardage output we've seen from Kyler Murray coming into the game. He only had four games on the plus side of two hundred yards and he was barely north of that in those games.

So the let me just let me just touch on this. The we are now in the sweet spot of games in the NFL. Okay, So what the NFL likes to do is they like to load up these games. Here in mid to late November, you have about a three or four week push of just amazing football. Bill's Chiefs. I think is the highlight for week eleven. Once you say, Mike, is that that's fair? Yeah?

Yeah, I think I think those two late games on on Sunday A.

The big ones.

So to have Alan against Mahomes that that's that's what you want, That's what your your networks want. Then the next week forty nine Ers at Green Bay. You know there, there's there's there's that's quite a quite a matchup. Then the next week is your Thanksgiving week, but then your late game. These are your two games the Thanksgiving week on the Sunday you have Eagles at Ravens and then the Sunday night game is forty nine ers at Buffalo, and then the the following week, Week fourteen, the week after Thanksgiving gives you the Chargers at Chiefs, your Bears at forty nine ers in Buffalo against the Rams Dallas in Cincinnati was also nice quarterbacking game. But things have obviously changed. But yeah, you're getting in this. This is what the NFL likes to do with. You had it with Eagles Cowboys last week. It kind of started last week. Over these next two or three weeks, you get these really marquee, juicy matchups that will be salivating over.

I gotta say I was really kind of bummed because early Sunday morning, you know, with the admission that Jalen Hurts was battling an ankle, I was really looking forward to Cooper Rush against Kenny Pickett. For about five minutes, I'm like, oh, it was fun. And I looked at the number, I'm like, yeah, the number hasn't moved.

You weren't doing a live radio show at that time. I compared it to the eighty seven strike with scab players when it was thirty one to six. Clayton Tune was in the game, Kenny Pickett was in the game. Trade Lancers and the game it was Yes, it.

Was that bad Clayton dude.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And the Jets weren't pulling Rogers. That was like the funny thing, like he was still in the game. That's suing it. Yeah, all right, did we get everything? Okay, we get did our report cards? Waiver wire?

Yeah, we'll just do a quick waiver wire as we run through. H estimate obviously is number one. We've got Jalen war and we want to look at as well, a little bit deeper tight end position. Johnny Smith, who you saw running over people. That was one of my highlights as Smith and I did the show and reacting Dan on Monday nights. Like tack League still sucks in week ten, like what should have been like a six yard game becomes him barreling his way all the way down to the the one yard line.

What are we doing bouncing off multiple defenders?

How about someone actually trying to tackle him it instead of doing the I'm gonna run my shoulder into you.

Who needs that?

My bother Tyler Algier still out there.

He had a nice big game for Atlanta and that's always the George card. He's owned in fewer than fifty percent of leagues. I don't understand why. Well, you know the one two punch and just insurance, right, I know benches are shorter, but still the commitment there. We talked Trey Benson a little bit earlier, so move on from him. Obviously, Russell Wilson this week has a massive plus advantage matchup available in about two thirds of leagues. Still, look, I still have some very big questions about the Pittsburgh offense. But between Warren and Harris, the running the football more effectively the last month. The moon ball from Wilson is it always going to be on target? Is always going to be right now, But you get an opportunity and you get a chance. And this week that Ravens defense is terrible. Right, you know, we did a deep dive a little bit. You know, everybody keeps trying to ah the Chiefs lucky this that whatever. It's like, you know what, they don't have an obvious, huge deficiency like the rest of every other team in this damn NFL.

Yes, that's very true, you know what I mean?

Like, all right, Ravens, the offense is great, that defense stick.

I hired somebody on Monday be like Ravens are going to kill the Steelers, So why would you think that, Yeah, they can't stop anything right now, So why would you think all of a sudden they're going to destroy Pittsburgh who probably can handle Lamar Jackson, you know, I mean they could figure out Away or Derrick Henry.

Did you like the Jayden Daniels.

Uh? When folks tried to and Mike Talblin was like, all right, he's setting Lamar Jackson up.

I think put a stop to it. Yeah, really a.

Right, So Ricky Piersoll into the mix with Sam Franz. Uh, that's kind of the wing and a prayer. Hey, maybe there's something here we can look at. Going back to Pittsburgh. Mike Williams, he's not going to get a lot of opportunity opportunities, but if you're looking for the home run threat, and certainly for daily fantasy, he's a guy you want gonna want to keep an.

Eye out for week to week. Uh.

And I think that's it's a short list of really mustads. Otherwise, you know, you start digging deeper into you know, Gus Edward came back, and you know the Chargers are going to want to run the football they're getting better play out of it. Herbert the last couple of weeks, no question about it. But the run is still going to be the identity. So maybe you add him, wondering if there's there are some weeks where he suddenly becomes the bell cow once again. Johnston's been in play as well, with them winging the ball a little bit, but otherwise, you know, it's the situational football. The obvious must must pickups necessary aren't really there at this point, thinning out as we get to week eleven.

All right, well, just like my playoff hopes are in, a lot of my fantasy leagues are fitting out. We will end it there. Our quick little last segment just took twenty minutes. Hey, but we had.

Fun get him on, get him over, get him in exactly.

Yeah, yeah, so this is good times. Glad back with you guys. Glad the voice is almost back to be better at our next podcast as well, And that's when Michael break down the rankings for week eleven of the National foot Fall League season. Ian, I'll have a streaming defenses and yeah, I'll give you a little tidbit as well. So for Ian, Roddy and Mike Carmen. I'm Dan Byer, Thanks as always for listening to I want your flex and we will talk to you next time again right here, and I want your flexy then