Hey guys, welcome to I've never said this before with me Tommy di Dario. Today I am joined by a man of many, many talents. Luke McFarlane has tackled TV and film, Broadway and now the unscripted world. He is currently hosting and starring in Hallmark plus his home renovation series Home Is Where the Heart Is, which is out right now. And yes he is rolling up the sleeves, and yes he is getting dirty because he is showcasing his very impressive skills in woodwork to help bring some magic to some incredible human beings. I love feel good shows like this. You guys are in for such a treat with this one.

Hey guys, welcome to I've never said this before with me Tommy di Dario. Today I am joined by a man of many, many talents. Luke McFarlane has tackled TV and film, Broadway and now the unscripted world. He is currently hosting and starring in Hallmark plus his home renovation series Home Is Where the Heart Is, which is out right now. And yes he is rolling up the sleeves, and yes he is getting dirty because he is showcasing his very impressive skills in woodwork to help bring some magic to some incredible human beings. I love feel good shows like this. You guys are in for such a treat with this one.

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Luke has done fifteen fan favorite Hallmark movies, so it's pretty cool to see him in a totally different role, still bringing that same joy to many. You may know and love Luke from his role in Brothers and Sisters or the Apple series Platonic, which he just finished filming season two of. Then there's the movie Bros. Which was a big studio rom com featuring a same sex love story, which was pretty groundbreaking for the time, and I would argue that it still very much is. And Luke added Broadway to his resume performing in the very moving play The Normal Heart. And this is just naming a few of his many many credits. So let's see if today we can get Luke to say something that he has never said before. Luke, how you doing, my man?

Luke has done fifteen fan favorite Hallmark movies, so it's pretty cool to see him in a totally different role, still bringing that same joy to many. You may know and love Luke from his role in Brothers and Sisters or the Apple series Platonic, which he just finished filming season two of. Then there's the movie Bros. Which was a big studio rom com featuring a same sex love story, which was pretty groundbreaking for the time, and I would argue that it still very much is. And Luke added Broadway to his resume performing in the very moving play The Normal Heart. And this is just naming a few of his many many credits. So let's see if today we can get Luke to say something that he has never said before. Luke, how you doing, my man?

I'm good, Tommy, thank you so much for having me.

I'm good, Tommy, thank you so much for having me.

I am so happy to see you. A lot has changed since I saw you last.

I am so happy to see you. A lot has changed since I saw you last.

It is correct, it's been met. When I was doing the Bros.

It is correct, it's been met. When I was doing the Bros.

Press tour yep, yep, on my show Extra and you were not a parent, then you're a parent now.

Press tour yep, yep, on my show Extra and you were not a parent, then you're a parent now.

Yes, that's correct. I walked into I will say this, when I walked into the theater. You were sitting down in the theater and I walked and I turned to Billy Eichner and said, like, who is this guy? He's very very handsome. Oh god, Billy immediately made a joke about that. But it's true. And you look fantastic. You look great.

Yes, that's correct. I walked into I will say this, when I walked into the theater. You were sitting down in the theater and I walked and I turned to Billy Eichner and said, like, who is this guy? He's very very handsome. Oh god, Billy immediately made a joke about that. But it's true. And you look fantastic. You look great.

Thank you well likewise, my man. Likewise, I saw your promo stills for the new show, and you're clearly staying on top of your fitness game. Oh yes, you have not let that slip in two years. I haven't you know. I did just have a daughter.

Thank you well likewise, my man. Likewise, I saw your promo stills for the new show, and you're clearly staying on top of your fitness game. Oh yes, you have not let that slip in two years. I haven't you know. I did just have a daughter.

She's going to be two years old soon, and I still make time to sort of have a little time to myself, to go to the gym. It's a big part of what I do. And yeah, even having any kid, it just becomes a little bit earlier in the morning.

She's going to be two years old soon, and I still make time to sort of have a little time to myself, to go to the gym. It's a big part of what I do. And yeah, even having any kid, it just becomes a little bit earlier in the morning.

Yeah, I'm sure, I'm sure. But you're carving out the time for you, which is great.

Yeah, I'm sure, I'm sure. But you're carving out the time for you, which is great.

That's right.

That's right.

Well, we have lots of cover and obviously we're going to get to the show. A lot of people know you from the acting world. You know, you're rolling up your sleeves or getting dirty in the unscripted world, and we're going to talk all about that. But to begin, Luke, you have such an impressive career. You've done projects that are so wonderful and that means so much to so many people. So in your perspective, what for you is a career high?

Well, we have lots of cover and obviously we're going to get to the show. A lot of people know you from the acting world. You know, you're rolling up your sleeves or getting dirty in the unscripted world, and we're going to talk all about that. But to begin, Luke, you have such an impressive career. You've done projects that are so wonderful and that means so much to so many people. So in your perspective, what for you is a career high?

Oh gosh, you know, it's always funny to look back at your career because you never quite know where it's going to go. I mean, if you told me that would become this amazing home for me, and it has. I've done fifteen movies with them, I would be really I'd probably ask first of all, what is Hallmark And now it's become this amazing platform for me to do movies and to work on movies and to be a romantic lead in these movies. But now it's been a place for me to go. Can I executive produce something? And I did executive produce the show which is going to be Well, which is live now where I get to show another part of myself, which is my passion for home renovation and woodworking. So career highlight. Trying to answer your question, sorry rambling, Gosh, I got to work on Broadway. That was huge. You never thought that that would happen. I worked an amazing production of The Normal Heart, which won a Tony Award almost ten years ago. That was amazing, beautiful story. Yeah, gosh, I don't know. It's been so varied. I worked on a sci fi series which I loved. I worked on Brothers and Sisters for one hundred episodes with Sally Field and Cliss of Lockhart and Rob Lowe and the amazing Matthew. So it's been very It's been all over the place. I don't even know. Sometimes I look back on my IMDb page and try to remember the plot of some of the movies that I've been in.

Oh gosh, you know, it's always funny to look back at your career because you never quite know where it's going to go. I mean, if you told me that would become this amazing home for me, and it has. I've done fifteen movies with them, I would be really I'd probably ask first of all, what is Hallmark And now it's become this amazing platform for me to do movies and to work on movies and to be a romantic lead in these movies. But now it's been a place for me to go. Can I executive produce something? And I did executive produce the show which is going to be Well, which is live now where I get to show another part of myself, which is my passion for home renovation and woodworking. So career highlight. Trying to answer your question, sorry rambling, Gosh, I got to work on Broadway. That was huge. You never thought that that would happen. I worked an amazing production of The Normal Heart, which won a Tony Award almost ten years ago. That was amazing, beautiful story. Yeah, gosh, I don't know. It's been so varied. I worked on a sci fi series which I loved. I worked on Brothers and Sisters for one hundred episodes with Sally Field and Cliss of Lockhart and Rob Lowe and the amazing Matthew. So it's been very It's been all over the place. I don't even know. Sometimes I look back on my IMDb page and try to remember the plot of some of the movies that I've been in.

It's pretty cool that you've touched kind of everything, right, I mean, you've done the Broadway, You've now done film, you've done TV, you're doing unscripted. Is that something you always wanted for yourself? Or you just kinda are a yes person and took the opportunities as they came.

It's pretty cool that you've touched kind of everything, right, I mean, you've done the Broadway, You've now done film, you've done TV, you're doing unscripted. Is that something you always wanted for yourself? Or you just kinda are a yes person and took the opportunities as they came.

I mean, I love TV from the very beginning. I've always loved TV. I think it speaks to my generation. You know, TV was where my family sat down and watched things together, so it always had a sense of like togetherness. TV was that for us. Movies were not as much part of growing up. It was Mom went to Blockbuster and came back with three videos and we debated forever, and then she would fall asleep and no one would ever watch Jade or some weird psycho sexual movie that she always sem to come home with. So TV is important, and I actually really love being on TV because it also, as an an actor, creates a space that you get to return to again and again, a group of people that you see every single day. Movies aren't as much like that. That's interesting.

I mean, I love TV from the very beginning. I've always loved TV. I think it speaks to my generation. You know, TV was where my family sat down and watched things together, so it always had a sense of like togetherness. TV was that for us. Movies were not as much part of growing up. It was Mom went to Blockbuster and came back with three videos and we debated forever, and then she would fall asleep and no one would ever watch Jade or some weird psycho sexual movie that she always sem to come home with. So TV is important, and I actually really love being on TV because it also, as an an actor, creates a space that you get to return to again and again, a group of people that you see every single day. Movies aren't as much like that. That's interesting.

What a perspective, And you strike me as someone who likes to form relationships and nurture those bonds. So I imagine you do that more in television.

What a perspective, And you strike me as someone who likes to form relationships and nurture those bonds. So I imagine you do that more in television.

Absolutely. You get to know the carpenters, you get to know the set painters, you get to know the wardrobe people in a much more intimate way. And yes, I do like that. I think it makes you a better actor to just understand where people come from a little bit more.

Absolutely. You get to know the carpenters, you get to know the set painters, you get to know the wardrobe people in a much more intimate way. And yes, I do like that. I think it makes you a better actor to just understand where people come from a little bit more.

And your work means so much to so many for many reasons. But I just saw you posted minutes before the interview you're out magazine cover. Yes, and you've been such a prominent figure for that community for many reasons. What I kind of take from your career and from you is you're someone who shows people that you can go after your wildest dreams, no matter what background you come from. And I think that's pretty cool. And like you said, we met during Bros. And that's a movie that means a lot to many people today. Does that hold a special place in your heart?

And your work means so much to so many for many reasons. But I just saw you posted minutes before the interview you're out magazine cover. Yes, and you've been such a prominent figure for that community for many reasons. What I kind of take from your career and from you is you're someone who shows people that you can go after your wildest dreams, no matter what background you come from. And I think that's pretty cool. And like you said, we met during Bros. And that's a movie that means a lot to many people today. Does that hold a special place in your heart?

Oh my god? Absolutely. I mean only was it my first opportunity to be part of a feature film put up by his studio, which just means a different thing. You know, a lot more money, a lot more pressure, you know, working with people like Judd Apatau and you know, guest stars that were you know, household names. That was the first time for that, So that definitely holds a special spot for me too.

Oh my god? Absolutely. I mean only was it my first opportunity to be part of a feature film put up by his studio, which just means a different thing. You know, a lot more money, a lot more pressure, you know, working with people like Judd Apatau and you know, guest stars that were you know, household names. That was the first time for that, So that definitely holds a special spot for me too.

I mean clearly, I see you reminiscing, Yeah, and you're thinking about that time, and I imagine doing something that with Billy and working on a project like that and being such a pioneer for that is pretty cool.

I mean clearly, I see you reminiscing, Yeah, and you're thinking about that time, and I imagine doing something that with Billy and working on a project like that and being such a pioneer for that is pretty cool.

Oh, I know you're gonna say you're talking about Out magazine. It's funny actually because just you know, I posted that and Guy Brendan just sent me a text. Guy Brendan, who is also in Bros. Along with Billy, played Billy Aikner's best friend in the movie, sent me a text. He said, I saw your Out magazine. I can always tell when you really care about a project because you take your shirt off.

Oh, I know you're gonna say you're talking about Out magazine. It's funny actually because just you know, I posted that and Guy Brendan just sent me a text. Guy Brendan, who is also in Bros. Along with Billy, played Billy Aikner's best friend in the movie, sent me a text. He said, I saw your Out magazine. I can always tell when you really care about a project because you take your shirt off.

I was like, God, So what incorrect? Or I mean, is that accurate?

I was like, God, So what incorrect? Or I mean, is that accurate?

Well, I mean, look, there's something about skin that you know, just you know, gets people's attention. We all know about the scroll and we all know what makes people stop. And I care so much about the show that I'm executive producing homes Where the Heart Is. And yeah, maybe I did want a couple extra eyes, and maybe I was willing to take the shirt off to get a little bit more attention on something I care so much about.

Well, I mean, look, there's something about skin that you know, just you know, gets people's attention. We all know about the scroll and we all know what makes people stop. And I care so much about the show that I'm executive producing homes Where the Heart Is. And yeah, maybe I did want a couple extra eyes, and maybe I was willing to take the shirt off to get a little bit more attention on something I care so much about.

Listen and an oversaturate of market. You Gotta do, you Gotta do, You Gotta do, you Gotta do. Yeah, that's awesome, And with that series, I think it's so cool for many reasons that you're doing it, because it's so different than what we're used to from you, right, And when I first saw it, I thought, huh yeah.

Listen and an oversaturate of market. You Gotta do, you Gotta do, You Gotta do, you Gotta do. Yeah, that's awesome, And with that series, I think it's so cool for many reasons that you're doing it, because it's so different than what we're used to from you, right, And when I first saw it, I thought, huh yeah.

I mean I knew you loved board work.

I mean I knew you loved board work.

I saw, especially during COVID a lot of your videos you put up doing all of that. But what for you made you say I need to be a part of this project, like sign me up.

I saw, especially during COVID a lot of your videos you put up doing all of that. But what for you made you say I need to be a part of this project, like sign me up.

So it began with an amazing woman named Jessica Sebastian and she had always wanted to do a home renovation show and she came to me because she knew she wanted to do it a Hallmark and Hallmark is starting to get into the nonscripted space and they said to her, you got to work with one of our talent, and we know who that's going to be. It's Luke McFarlane. It's got this interest, so Jessica and I began talking. We began talking about what the show want to be and our sort of idea about wanting to create spaces for people that reflected who they were, where they're coming from, and then specifically for me. I said, but I want to add something personal to every home that we renovate. I want to build something specifically for them, because word, working for me is something I've done for a long time. It's been professional. Sometimes sometimes it's about paying the bills. Sometimes it's reminiscing about, like you know, working with my dad where I was a kid, it's a big part of what we did. We always built stuff together. So I knew I wanted to add that because I think when you design a space for someone, it has to be personal. It has to be intimate. It's not just about this is the it color, this is the right paper, these are the things you need. It's not that, it's who are you? And how can your space represent you. I think we look at clothing as a way of expressing ourselves a lot, but we don't do it I think with as much intention as our physical space. You know, we want our physical space to represent who we are as well. So that's what the show is really about.

So it began with an amazing woman named Jessica Sebastian and she had always wanted to do a home renovation show and she came to me because she knew she wanted to do it a Hallmark and Hallmark is starting to get into the nonscripted space and they said to her, you got to work with one of our talent, and we know who that's going to be. It's Luke McFarlane. It's got this interest, so Jessica and I began talking. We began talking about what the show want to be and our sort of idea about wanting to create spaces for people that reflected who they were, where they're coming from, and then specifically for me. I said, but I want to add something personal to every home that we renovate. I want to build something specifically for them, because word, working for me is something I've done for a long time. It's been professional. Sometimes sometimes it's about paying the bills. Sometimes it's reminiscing about, like you know, working with my dad where I was a kid, it's a big part of what we did. We always built stuff together. So I knew I wanted to add that because I think when you design a space for someone, it has to be personal. It has to be intimate. It's not just about this is the it color, this is the right paper, these are the things you need. It's not that, it's who are you? And how can your space represent you. I think we look at clothing as a way of expressing ourselves a lot, but we don't do it I think with as much intention as our physical space. You know, we want our physical space to represent who we are as well. So that's what the show is really about.

Home is where the heart is Palmark. Plus that's right out. Now, what about this show feels different than an acting job? Like what fulfills you in a different way doing this versus that kind of work?

Home is where the heart is Palmark. Plus that's right out. Now, what about this show feels different than an acting job? Like what fulfills you in a different way doing this versus that kind of work?

Oh my god, tell me. It was so hard. It was also so hot. And look, we did not have all the money in the world. So like I found myself, you know, finishing up an interview with a family and then being like, Okay, I gotta, I gotta, I gotta build this thing. I gotta get dirty and dusty, and you know, some some days my day would start at six am and I was like literally on the table saw until the sun went down. Like it was very different that way. I expected there'd be a whole team that would kind of help me. It was like, if you really care about something, you have to do it. So it was hard and it was hot. We filmed it in Atlanta in the summer, so if you look carefully at the show, you can see some sweaty shirts. H for sure, Uh huh.

Oh my god, tell me. It was so hard. It was also so hot. And look, we did not have all the money in the world. So like I found myself, you know, finishing up an interview with a family and then being like, Okay, I gotta, I gotta, I gotta build this thing. I gotta get dirty and dusty, and you know, some some days my day would start at six am and I was like literally on the table saw until the sun went down. Like it was very different that way. I expected there'd be a whole team that would kind of help me. It was like, if you really care about something, you have to do it. So it was hard and it was hot. We filmed it in Atlanta in the summer, so if you look carefully at the show, you can see some sweaty shirts. H for sure, Uh huh.

That wasn't production throwing water over you making you look extra steaming.

That wasn't production throwing water over you making you look extra steaming.

One percent. I actually I did make a comment. I think a lot of home run. Those shows, there's a what I like to call sort of like a carpenter drag, where like they'll go in and like maybe knock one wall down and lift one thing. But I swear to you I was doing it all with some help, but I had my hands super dirty.

One percent. I actually I did make a comment. I think a lot of home run. Those shows, there's a what I like to call sort of like a carpenter drag, where like they'll go in and like maybe knock one wall down and lift one thing. But I swear to you I was doing it all with some help, but I had my hands super dirty.

Really, yes, okay, all right, well you enjoy it too. You don't want to fake it?

Really, yes, okay, all right, well you enjoy it too. You don't want to fake it?

No, I do, and I do. And I walking into a reveal and making sure that like the thing that you're showing them is good is a different kind of stress for me. It's very much reflective of myself.

No, I do, and I do. And I walking into a reveal and making sure that like the thing that you're showing them is good is a different kind of stress for me. It's very much reflective of myself.

And these shows for me, are always very emotional. And I'm an Italian from Jerseys, so I can like cry when wind blows, but I no, no, I imagine for you when you see the faces of these families and whoever you're profiling, you must feel that too. Did you catch yourself getting emotional at all?

And these shows for me, are always very emotional. And I'm an Italian from Jerseys, so I can like cry when wind blows, but I no, no, I imagine for you when you see the faces of these families and whoever you're profiling, you must feel that too. Did you catch yourself getting emotional at all?

Oh? Absolutely? I think I got the most emotional in one of the episodes it's streaming now, where it was really important. It was a mother and daughter and the mother was having a hard time. Oh it's making emotional now. She was having a hard time letting go of something that her late husband had built. So it was his conversation of like, how can you let go of this thing while letting your daughter make this space for herself. And we were in a cabinet chop and we were trying to convince this lovely mother to sort of let go of these old cabinets so we could give her some new cabinets. And it was very emotional.

Oh? Absolutely? I think I got the most emotional in one of the episodes it's streaming now, where it was really important. It was a mother and daughter and the mother was having a hard time. Oh it's making emotional now. She was having a hard time letting go of something that her late husband had built. So it was his conversation of like, how can you let go of this thing while letting your daughter make this space for herself. And we were in a cabinet chop and we were trying to convince this lovely mother to sort of let go of these old cabinets so we could give her some new cabinets. And it was very emotional.

Actually, wow, yeah, wow, that's hard to let go. I mean home, Your home is sacred, right, It's a space. I always say it to my husband, like when we move or when we design a home, like I want it to feel like our sanctuary. We can turn out the world and come home and.

Actually, wow, yeah, wow, that's hard to let go. I mean home, Your home is sacred, right, It's a space. I always say it to my husband, like when we move or when we design a home, like I want it to feel like our sanctuary. We can turn out the world and come home and.

Just be safe.

Just be safe.

And there are things that you bring with you from loved ones who have passed or you know that you collect along the way, and I just I think there's something so magical when you can help facilitate creating that that knew something for someone else because you know how important it is totally.

And there are things that you bring with you from loved ones who have passed or you know that you collect along the way, and I just I think there's something so magical when you can help facilitate creating that that knew something for someone else because you know how important it is totally.

And I think it's important to remember. And this is something I talked about a lot, but homes are also time traveling machines. And you know, when I first bought my home in Los Angeles, which is one hundred years old. You literally take off the wallpaper and you see what was there before. So you're actually going back in time and you're going this was once somebody's idea of what you were describing with your husband as a cozy space. And you're like, oh God, should I be removing this? Should I be taking this away? But the home travels through time. We just get to inhabit it for a brief moment. So yeah, trying to honor about all those things, it can get very emotional.

And I think it's important to remember. And this is something I talked about a lot, but homes are also time traveling machines. And you know, when I first bought my home in Los Angeles, which is one hundred years old. You literally take off the wallpaper and you see what was there before. So you're actually going back in time and you're going this was once somebody's idea of what you were describing with your husband as a cozy space. And you're like, oh God, should I be removing this? Should I be taking this away? But the home travels through time. We just get to inhabit it for a brief moment. So yeah, trying to honor about all those things, it can get very emotional.

Do you want to do more in this space? I mean it's a whole new category for you.

Do you want to do more in this space? I mean it's a whole new category for you.

I mean it is. I will say my real passion is furniture building. I've built a lot of furniture, and look, I've done everything from framing to trimwork, to hang indoors to even painting. God bless me, I hate painting so much. I hate painting. But furniture building is really my passion. I get to work in my workshop, I get to stay in one place, I get to work with sort of beautiful special woods. So that's what I'd like to do more. But I didn't like to sort of encourage people and talk more about what makes great pieces of furniture.

I mean it is. I will say my real passion is furniture building. I've built a lot of furniture, and look, I've done everything from framing to trimwork, to hang indoors to even painting. God bless me, I hate painting so much. I hate painting. But furniture building is really my passion. I get to work in my workshop, I get to stay in one place, I get to work with sort of beautiful special woods. So that's what I'd like to do more. But I didn't like to sort of encourage people and talk more about what makes great pieces of furniture.

That's so cool that you're such an entrepreneur in doing it all. And I think that's the way of twenty and twenty five and going forward.

That's so cool that you're such an entrepreneur in doing it all. And I think that's the way of twenty and twenty five and going forward.

I mean, the.

I mean, the.

Idea of doing one thing and staying in one lane, to me is very dated. And I love that you can go do a show right like Platonic and film season two, and go jump into the some scriptive worlds and go work on your furniture. You know, your wo would work and all of it well, like.

Idea of doing one thing and staying in one lane, to me is very dated. And I love that you can go do a show right like Platonic and film season two, and go jump into the some scriptive worlds and go work on your furniture. You know, your wo would work and all of it well, like.

You honestly tell me, like to watch you. You know, when I first met you, you were doing these you know, fifteen to five minute, twenty minute interviews, and now we get this opportunity to sit down and actually talk. And I know that's probably a part of yourself that you've always want to share. Yeah. If we like somebody, we want to see them grow. Yeah, and Hallmark has done that for me. Yeah, give me the opportunity to grow. Trust me.

You honestly tell me, like to watch you. You know, when I first met you, you were doing these you know, fifteen to five minute, twenty minute interviews, and now we get this opportunity to sit down and actually talk. And I know that's probably a part of yourself that you've always want to share. Yeah. If we like somebody, we want to see them grow. Yeah, and Hallmark has done that for me. Yeah, give me the opportunity to grow. Trust me.

I've seen a few of those Christmas moves like many people have.

I've seen a few of those Christmas moves like many people have.

Many people.

Many people.

Actually, I was just texting with a friend here we go. I'm very close with Jennifer a few and she said she watches catch me if you claws. Oh, all the time, like year round when she's having a bad day.

Actually, I was just texting with a friend here we go. I'm very close with Jennifer a few and she said she watches catch me if you claws. Oh, all the time, like year round when she's having a bad day.

Oh that was a favorite one. Yeah, amazing Italia Richie, I love making that one. Yeah.

Oh that was a favorite one. Yeah, amazing Italia Richie, I love making that one. Yeah.

See you bring so much joy to people, not even during just the holidays with your work, but year round.

See you bring so much joy to people, not even during just the holidays with your work, but year round.

And Jennifer love Cwett No less, there we go. It was a soft name drop. You know.

And Jennifer love Cwett No less, there we go. It was a soft name drop. You know.

That's what we do on this show. We just slide them in sometimes. But that's awesome. I think it's really cool. I'm really excited for this series, and I love that hall Hallmark is now expanding into this category because it's so hot. People want it. My dad, he just turned seventies and Italian from Jersey. He watches like those those home Rhino shows on streaming all the time just because for him he has anxiety. That's another story, but it gives him such calm.

That's what we do on this show. We just slide them in sometimes. But that's awesome. I think it's really cool. I'm really excited for this series, and I love that hall Hallmark is now expanding into this category because it's so hot. People want it. My dad, he just turned seventies and Italian from Jersey. He watches like those those home Rhino shows on streaming all the time just because for him he has anxiety. That's another story, but it gives him such calm.

You know, I got to ask you, this Old House is that what your dad watches? What does your dad watch? Do you know any of the titles?

You know, I got to ask you, this Old House is that what your dad watches? What does your dad watch? Do you know any of the titles?

I don't know any of the titles. I will get them for it.

I don't know any of the titles. I will get them for it.

I'm curious because like I grew up, this Old House was like, yeah, me and my dad used to watch that.

I'm curious because like I grew up, this Old House was like, yeah, me and my dad used to watch that.

Yeah, yeah, it's something though, because he likes sold Western, So like when I started seeing him watching these I'm like, Okay, I see you.

Yeah, yeah, it's something though, because he likes sold Western, So like when I started seeing him watching these I'm like, Okay, I see you.

I love it.

I love it.

But that's that's the power of these shows. It transcends all demographics and ages and people just want to feel that joy and connection and you're bringing that, which is so damn cool.

But that's that's the power of these shows. It transcends all demographics and ages and people just want to feel that joy and connection and you're bringing that, which is so damn cool.

Well, also the home renovation shows this beautiful built in thing where you get up before and then as right right, so that after takes you all the way to the end of the episode. Yeah, and that's really what we want to see.

Well, also the home renovation shows this beautiful built in thing where you get up before and then as right right, so that after takes you all the way to the end of the episode. Yeah, and that's really what we want to see.

Okay, but you're not hanging up your hat in the acting.

Okay, but you're not hanging up your hat in the acting.

World, correct, No, I am not. I just finished film in the second season of Apple's Platonic with the amazing Rose Byrne and the incredibly funny and talk about someone who's got his hands and everything Seth Rogan. Now he's great, he's amazing. Yeah, he's like truly a genius. Can't wait to see his new show. But yeah, so I just finished doing the second season. That really excited about that. Just finished making a little horror film with an actress I know you interviewed Olivia Holt, and that was really fun playing a playing a teacher who may or may not be a zombie.

World, correct, No, I am not. I just finished film in the second season of Apple's Platonic with the amazing Rose Byrne and the incredibly funny and talk about someone who's got his hands and everything Seth Rogan. Now he's great, he's amazing. Yeah, he's like truly a genius. Can't wait to see his new show. But yeah, so I just finished doing the second season. That really excited about that. Just finished making a little horror film with an actress I know you interviewed Olivia Holt, and that was really fun playing a playing a teacher who may or may not be a zombie.

Oh yeah, is this your first kind of step into horror?

Oh yeah, is this your first kind of step into horror?

I made one horror film. I'll let people look it up. It was yeah, it was what is it? Come on? Come on? It's called rock paper Dead had an amazing cast. Oh god, Michael Madson and Tatum O'Neill in that movie. It was wild. So it's been a minute. It's been a minute.

I made one horror film. I'll let people look it up. It was yeah, it was what is it? Come on? Come on? It's called rock paper Dead had an amazing cast. Oh god, Michael Madson and Tatum O'Neill in that movie. It was wild. So it's been a minute. It's been a minute.

All right, Well we look forward to that. You know what I announced? It was my guest. A lot of people were writing saying they want to see you play a superhero, specifically Captain America.

All right, Well we look forward to that. You know what I announced? It was my guest. A lot of people were writing saying they want to see you play a superhero, specifically Captain America.

I'd take it. I'd take it.

I'd take it. I'd take it.

You want to turned that down?

You want to turned that down?

I love doing action. I don't know, I mean, yeah, sure, I'll take it. Captain America sign up. Although I am Canadian. I don't know if you knew that. So maybe Captain Canuck, which is actually an old comic book, So Marvel, if you're listening, Captain Canuck is probably available, very inexpensive if you want to turn that franchise into something. We're onto something here, let's do it. We're manifesting that right now. For trying to think what Captain Canuck's like superpower would be. I don't know.

I love doing action. I don't know, I mean, yeah, sure, I'll take it. Captain America sign up. Although I am Canadian. I don't know if you knew that. So maybe Captain Canuck, which is actually an old comic book, So Marvel, if you're listening, Captain Canuck is probably available, very inexpensive if you want to turn that franchise into something. We're onto something here, let's do it. We're manifesting that right now. For trying to think what Captain Canuck's like superpower would be. I don't know.

He's a Canadian. I don't want to say something offensive.

He's a Canadian. I don't want to say something offensive.

No, I'm not going to say, Joe, I'm not going to make a joke disappear. There we go.

No, I'm not going to say, Joe, I'm not going to make a joke disappear. There we go.

All right, we're gonna we're gonna plush that idea out a little bit.

All right, we're gonna we're gonna plush that idea out a little bit.

It's a big legal sort of you know, polit a cool show.

It's a big legal sort of you know, polit a cool show.

All right, Okay, you never know. Is there a role that you auditioned for that you really wanted that you were super bummed didn't work out?

All right, Okay, you never know. Is there a role that you auditioned for that you really wanted that you were super bummed didn't work out?

God, that's that's a super fair question. You learn so quickly to let go of things. Yeah, you just have to. I always like make the joke with with my friends when I'm driving and I see the billboard for the thing that I auditioned for. I was like, oh, I guess, I guess I didn't get that part, because you know, you find out that they cast somebody else. But well, here's something and this is this is true, and this is this is not the thing that I've never told anyone because I have something special for that later. But I actually auditioned originally for Matthew Reese's part in Brothers and Sisters. We both went in together. I was actually in New York doing a play at that time. They flew me out to do the test. Me and Matthew went in to audition for Kevin, who became you know, Sallyfield's son, and I auditioned for Kevin as well. Matthew got the part I didn't. They said, we loved you, you thought you were wonderful. We want to give you this, this sort of door price, which became Scotty and yeah, so low and behold. I wanted Kevin. I became Scotty so and it worked out pretty well. It worked out pretty well. Hundred episodes later. Yeah, that character's beloved. Yeah, it was fun. It was a fun gig. That's funny.

God, that's that's a super fair question. You learn so quickly to let go of things. Yeah, you just have to. I always like make the joke with with my friends when I'm driving and I see the billboard for the thing that I auditioned for. I was like, oh, I guess, I guess I didn't get that part, because you know, you find out that they cast somebody else. But well, here's something and this is this is true, and this is this is not the thing that I've never told anyone because I have something special for that later. But I actually auditioned originally for Matthew Reese's part in Brothers and Sisters. We both went in together. I was actually in New York doing a play at that time. They flew me out to do the test. Me and Matthew went in to audition for Kevin, who became you know, Sallyfield's son, and I auditioned for Kevin as well. Matthew got the part I didn't. They said, we loved you, you thought you were wonderful. We want to give you this, this sort of door price, which became Scotty and yeah, so low and behold. I wanted Kevin. I became Scotty so and it worked out pretty well. It worked out pretty well. Hundred episodes later. Yeah, that character's beloved. Yeah, it was fun. It was a fun gig. That's funny.

You never know where it will take you, right, I mean you walk in the room thinking it's one thing, and then something else happens, which may very well be even better than you imagined, which is pretty cool as an actor.

You never know where it will take you, right, I mean you walk in the room thinking it's one thing, and then something else happens, which may very well be even better than you imagined, which is pretty cool as an actor.

Do you watch I.

Do you watch I.

Mean, there's so many there's so much content out there now, right, series and movies and streaming and all of it. Is there a series or a film franchise that you will you would think would be so cool to be a part of.

Mean, there's so many there's so much content out there now, right, series and movies and streaming and all of it. Is there a series or a film franchise that you will you would think would be so cool to be a part of.

I am a deep Star Trek fan.

I am a deep Star Trek fan.

Oh really?

Oh really?

Yeah, like really deep. It's like weird actually, like I fall asleep to Star Trek Next Generation every night, have been doing it for five years. I could tell you any episode, any character. I know the titles of them. I've watched Star Trek Voyager, I've watched you know, the New one, Brave New World. But Star Trek Next Generation is like one of the like all time favorite comfort foods for me.

Yeah, like really deep. It's like weird actually, like I fall asleep to Star Trek Next Generation every night, have been doing it for five years. I could tell you any episode, any character. I know the titles of them. I've watched Star Trek Voyager, I've watched you know, the New one, Brave New World. But Star Trek Next Generation is like one of the like all time favorite comfort foods for me.

Have you ever been able to audition for anything Star Trek related?

Have you ever been able to audition for anything Star Trek related?

It's funny, I'm just remembering this now. I actually did audition for Captain Kirk.

It's funny, I'm just remembering this now. I actually did audition for Captain Kirk.

That must have been a pinch me moment.

That must have been a pinch me moment.

Come on, I mean, yeah, but that was a long time ago. It was also like when you look back at these things, I was like, I didn't know what the heck I was doing, and that became of course Chris Pine's you know, huge breakout roll. But yeah, I auditioned for that one. Yeah.

Come on, I mean, yeah, but that was a long time ago. It was also like when you look back at these things, I was like, I didn't know what the heck I was doing, and that became of course Chris Pine's you know, huge breakout roll. But yeah, I auditioned for that one. Yeah.

How did you keep your cool?

How did you keep your cool?

If I like you, you're such a fan, I think at that point you just sort of walk in blindly. Yeah, And there is there is a part of me that wishes I could go back and go, like, you know, do things differently. I don't know, I don't think I realized how how big these opportunities were at the time, and then maybe that's a survival technique thing. You just you try to not get too worked out, so.

If I like you, you're such a fan, I think at that point you just sort of walk in blindly. Yeah, And there is there is a part of me that wishes I could go back and go, like, you know, do things differently. I don't know, I don't think I realized how how big these opportunities were at the time, and then maybe that's a survival technique thing. You just you try to not get too worked out, so.

You seem to be someone who can handle rejection well, because in the business there's a lot of it and in life, I mean, yeah, but add in all the career stuff you have to deal with. It's not your usual nine to five where you go in and do your job and constantly have to hear no right, And that's just a different, a different thing. So you've always been someone seemingly that can let that roll off your back.

You seem to be someone who can handle rejection well, because in the business there's a lot of it and in life, I mean, yeah, but add in all the career stuff you have to deal with. It's not your usual nine to five where you go in and do your job and constantly have to hear no right, And that's just a different, a different thing. So you've always been someone seemingly that can let that roll off your back.

I haven't. I don't know where that comes from. Like I don't. I'm having a memory of like a dear actor friend of mine who you know, we kind of sort of started out together, and I remember he went in for this audition for something and he didn't get it and he broke down and it was so profound, and I of course was comforting my friend, and you know, I'm so sorry, But in the back of my head, I was thinking, uh, oh, uh oh, this is this is going to be tough for you because this is a big, big part of it. And I don't know some people let things roll. Some people don't. And I don't want to put a judgment on that, because certainly like it's cool to have big emotions about things, but for me, there was a lot of rejection before.

I haven't. I don't know where that comes from. Like I don't. I'm having a memory of like a dear actor friend of mine who you know, we kind of sort of started out together, and I remember he went in for this audition for something and he didn't get it and he broke down and it was so profound, and I of course was comforting my friend, and you know, I'm so sorry, But in the back of my head, I was thinking, uh, oh, uh oh, this is this is going to be tough for you because this is a big, big part of it. And I don't know some people let things roll. Some people don't. And I don't want to put a judgment on that, because certainly like it's cool to have big emotions about things, but for me, there was a lot of rejection before.

There was a lot of yeses, and you never let it stop you. Nope, look at you here today. Seth Rogan's had a really smart thing about that once too.

There was a lot of yeses, and you never let it stop you. Nope, look at you here today. Seth Rogan's had a really smart thing about that once too.

He's like, you know, the one thing about successful actors is they just kept doing it. And I think that's true.

He's like, you know, the one thing about successful actors is they just kept doing it. And I think that's true.

That's amazing, and I think we need to hear that more and more because people look at you and they think, oh my god, he's probably never had to deal with that, and now he's transitioning to this unscriptive world and he's touching every kind of market of the industry. So it must be so nice.

That's amazing, and I think we need to hear that more and more because people look at you and they think, oh my god, he's probably never had to deal with that, and now he's transitioning to this unscriptive world and he's touching every kind of market of the industry. So it must be so nice.

But you're like, we all go through it. Yeah, we totally do. There is no shortage of you know, forty five year old dudes that you know do crunches.

But you're like, we all go through it. Yeah, we totally do. There is no shortage of you know, forty five year old dudes that you know do crunches.

So forty five year old dudes who do crunches that should be your Instagram bio.

So forty five year old dudes who do crunches that should be your Instagram bio.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, I'm just a forty five year old dude.

Yeah, I'm just a forty five year old dude.

It does yeah, yeah, yeah.

It does yeah, yeah, yeah.

Do you feel do you feel that though, I mean, you bring up age and I'm turning forty in January myself, and it's such an interesting time in my life because I feel like you ask yourself a lot of questions at that point, and you're very reflective, and you know, you go through what you go through, and I'm like, I'm welcoming of it. I'm not weird out or freaked out by it, but you do start thinking things a little differently, right, and taking inventory.

Do you feel do you feel that though, I mean, you bring up age and I'm turning forty in January myself, and it's such an interesting time in my life because I feel like you ask yourself a lot of questions at that point, and you're very reflective, and you know, you go through what you go through, and I'm like, I'm welcoming of it. I'm not weird out or freaked out by it, but you do start thinking things a little differently, right, and taking inventory.

Absolutely. I think that thirties are hard like that. I think the thirties are hard. So like, you get to your forties, you get a new kind of confidence. I think about yourself and you're like, okay, like Tommy, you've done it. Yeah, Like you have this career, You've made this thing happen. You've been the host of multiple shows now, like so it's all worked out. And I think when you get to your forties and you've kind of pursued that passion and you've gotten to a place, you get to go like, ah, all right, yeah it's gonna be okay. Yeah, and then you can start about start thinking about a family and that that's a whole other panic.

Absolutely. I think that thirties are hard like that. I think the thirties are hard. So like, you get to your forties, you get a new kind of confidence. I think about yourself and you're like, okay, like Tommy, you've done it. Yeah, Like you have this career, You've made this thing happen. You've been the host of multiple shows now, like so it's all worked out. And I think when you get to your forties and you've kind of pursued that passion and you've gotten to a place, you get to go like, ah, all right, yeah it's gonna be okay. Yeah, and then you can start about start thinking about a family and that that's a whole other panic.

Yeah, Well, you kind of give yourself permission to do that. Right, It's like you don't have to wrap your entire identity around one thing. Not that you did that or not, but I do that, but like it's you allow yourself space to make room for those things that maybe you've always wanted to do.

Yeah, Well, you kind of give yourself permission to do that. Right, It's like you don't have to wrap your entire identity around one thing. Not that you did that or not, but I do that, but like it's you allow yourself space to make room for those things that maybe you've always wanted to do.

That's right, yeah, completely, and admit to your that it's okay or it's going to be okay. I think when I first graduated from school, I was like, I'm never going to make any money ever. I'm going to get like kicked out of the country because again I'm Canadian. I'm going to get kicked out of the country and it's all gonna be disaster and I'm going to live in a car. But that didn't happen.

That's right, yeah, completely, and admit to your that it's okay or it's going to be okay. I think when I first graduated from school, I was like, I'm never going to make any money ever. I'm going to get like kicked out of the country because again I'm Canadian. I'm going to get kicked out of the country and it's all gonna be disaster and I'm going to live in a car. But that didn't happen.

Yeah, Yeah, it worked out pretty well. And you did it all while being true to yourself, which I know wasn't always easy, and you had to make some difficult decisions along the way, and you very much wore I think a pioneer for showing people it's okay to be who you are. But I know that came with probably a lot of sacrifice along the way.

Yeah, Yeah, it worked out pretty well. And you did it all while being true to yourself, which I know wasn't always easy, and you had to make some difficult decisions along the way, and you very much wore I think a pioneer for showing people it's okay to be who you are. But I know that came with probably a lot of sacrifice along the way.

I mean I came out when I was that came out like eighteen years ago. And it was a different time, and it was before streamers, and it was before Timothy Shalomeh. I know, it was before there was just a different relationship to what you know, a guy could and couldn't wear, and whether they could paint their nails or not. So I do I do look back at that eighteen year old and go like, wow, that was that was some determination, or that eighteen years ago with some that was a guy with determination.

I mean I came out when I was that came out like eighteen years ago. And it was a different time, and it was before streamers, and it was before Timothy Shalomeh. I know, it was before there was just a different relationship to what you know, a guy could and couldn't wear, and whether they could paint their nails or not. So I do I do look back at that eighteen year old and go like, wow, that was that was some determination, or that eighteen years ago with some that was a guy with determination.

Do you wish that today, when you're doing press and doing interviews that there was I guess less of a focus on that part of you, like it was just something that just was in your life. Or do you feel like okay talking about that part of you?

Do you wish that today, when you're doing press and doing interviews that there was I guess less of a focus on that part of you, like it was just something that just was in your life. Or do you feel like okay talking about that part of you?

I totally feel okay. But we're all looking for ways to relate to each other. I don't know about you, but when I meet people who are queer, I always want to know, like, ohlways, your coming out story. Yeah, it's just a story. That's an important story. So like, yeah, I totally get that people want to talk about that, and if you stick around long enough, I can tell you lots of other stuff about myself. Yeah, you know. So I'm never going to fault somebody for a wanting to know about that. It's a big part of who I am, but there's other parts of me too.

I totally feel okay. But we're all looking for ways to relate to each other. I don't know about you, but when I meet people who are queer, I always want to know, like, ohlways, your coming out story. Yeah, it's just a story. That's an important story. So like, yeah, I totally get that people want to talk about that, and if you stick around long enough, I can tell you lots of other stuff about myself. Yeah, you know. So I'm never going to fault somebody for a wanting to know about that. It's a big part of who I am, but there's other parts of me too.

Right, I think it's important to also be able to share those parts, yes, and show that you're a well rounded person.

Right, I think it's important to also be able to share those parts, yes, and show that you're a well rounded person.

Totally right again, Like you're just going back to Hallmark, Like they gave me that opportunity. Yeah, you know, they let me be a sort of romantic lead to many a lovely ladies, and then they let me be a romantic lead to a man, and then they let me produce a show where I get to talk about woodwork, and so I'm so incredibly grateful. Yeah, as far as like a partner that's going to lean in and keep asking questions about who you are, that's who you want. It's one partner that keeps going like but what else are you? Who else are you? What else can you be? Yeah, they've been amazing.

Totally right again, Like you're just going back to Hallmark, Like they gave me that opportunity. Yeah, you know, they let me be a sort of romantic lead to many a lovely ladies, and then they let me be a romantic lead to a man, and then they let me produce a show where I get to talk about woodwork, and so I'm so incredibly grateful. Yeah, as far as like a partner that's going to lean in and keep asking questions about who you are, that's who you want. It's one partner that keeps going like but what else are you? Who else are you? What else can you be? Yeah, they've been amazing.

I think that's really cool to note about Hallmark because I think sometimes I've heard from friends like, oh, are they cool with the gay community or is that something they're comfortable with? And it's like, yes, the proof is there.

I think that's really cool to note about Hallmark because I think sometimes I've heard from friends like, oh, are they cool with the gay community or is that something they're comfortable with? And it's like, yes, the proof is there.

You know. That was the joke that people used to make you know, and.

You know. That was the joke that people used to make you know, and.

I'm sure they had to get to the point like many companies, I mean, times change, and you have to allow grace for people to realize what is right and wrong. And you can't. You can't hold someone's feed to the fire forever if they didn't necessarily do one thing and now they're doing something else, because that's growth and change and evolvement, and we all deserve that and we all go through it.

I'm sure they had to get to the point like many companies, I mean, times change, and you have to allow grace for people to realize what is right and wrong. And you can't. You can't hold someone's feed to the fire forever if they didn't necessarily do one thing and now they're doing something else, because that's growth and change and evolvement, and we all deserve that and we all go through it.

That's right. You know, you got to do that for people too.

That's right. You know, you got to do that for people too.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Let them go through their evolvement, let them go through their change, let them go through their learning.

Let them go through their evolvement, let them go through their change, let them go through their learning.

Yeah. Yeah, I think that's so cool. It's it's it's such an important show. I'm so psych that everybody gets to enjoy it and and watch it.

Yeah. Yeah, I think that's so cool. It's it's it's such an important show. I'm so psych that everybody gets to enjoy it and and watch it.

How do people watch Hallmark Plus for Yeah, you go to Hallmark Plus dot com. Huh, and you sign up for a very reasonable price. Oh okay, it's cheaper than Netflix. I'm going to tell you that much. I'll have to find out how much cheaper, but it's significantly cheaper. And you can also, you know, visit the Luke McFarland Criterion there. There's all my movies are up there, so you can go and check out.

How do people watch Hallmark Plus for Yeah, you go to Hallmark Plus dot com. Huh, and you sign up for a very reasonable price. Oh okay, it's cheaper than Netflix. I'm going to tell you that much. I'll have to find out how much cheaper, but it's significantly cheaper. And you can also, you know, visit the Luke McFarland Criterion there. There's all my movies are up there, so you can go and check out.

Okay, plug in your movies I see you, I see.

Okay, plug in your movies I see you, I see.

It was plugging Hallmark. They've been so good to be and it was a joke. My friend text me, She's like, Oh, it's the McFarlane Criterion, where you can see you know all my movies, from Shoe Atticts Christmas to Jennifer Love Hewitt's favorite one catch Alas anymore coming up. I haven't got one in the can for Hallmark. Yeah, but you know I like to try to do on every Christmas.

It was plugging Hallmark. They've been so good to be and it was a joke. My friend text me, She's like, Oh, it's the McFarlane Criterion, where you can see you know all my movies, from Shoe Atticts Christmas to Jennifer Love Hewitt's favorite one catch Alas anymore coming up. I haven't got one in the can for Hallmark. Yeah, but you know I like to try to do on every Christmas.

Okay, very cool, very cool. So we're at that point of the show Boy where apparently you know what's coming and the show is called I've never said this before, and that was born from wanting to just have these more real moments in real conversation with artists like yourself that you don't get to have on a carpet for two minutes or sit down junket for six minutes. So I like to give my guests the opportunity to share something that's important to them that they've never really said before.

Okay, very cool, very cool. So we're at that point of the show Boy where apparently you know what's coming and the show is called I've never said this before, and that was born from wanting to just have these more real moments in real conversation with artists like yourself that you don't get to have on a carpet for two minutes or sit down junket for six minutes. So I like to give my guests the opportunity to share something that's important to them that they've never really said before.

So take it away. Yeah, well, I wanted to talk about my eagle tattoo on my back. No, I'm kidding, I don't have any back. Well, gosh, you know, I was thinking about it. It's really lovely to be back here in New York's. New York City is a very important place to me. I left London, Ontario as an eighteen year old and came out here and I auditioned for Juilliard, which was where I trained as an actor. And actually, this morning I went on a run, I went past Lincoln Center. And this is going to sound like very boastful, but I knew I was going to get into Juilliard. I just knew it, which is a crazy thing to think. It's like harder to get into Juilliard than it is to get into like Princeton and Yale. And I guess I'm telling you that because well, it sounds embarrassing and boastful, but it also kind of points to that thing that you know you need at a certain time in your life and that you can kind of make it happen if you can get really clear about what it is you need. Look, I was like a closeted kid living in you know, a mid size city in Canada, and I thought, if I get to New York, I can be gay. So they're just going to take care of that. If I get to New York and get the approval that I can be an actor, I can do that. So I was like, oh, this is my opportunity to do that. So I guess the thing that I'm never telling, but it is like I just knew I was going to get in to Juilliard. Is that a dumb thing to share?

So take it away. Yeah, well, I wanted to talk about my eagle tattoo on my back. No, I'm kidding, I don't have any back. Well, gosh, you know, I was thinking about it. It's really lovely to be back here in New York's. New York City is a very important place to me. I left London, Ontario as an eighteen year old and came out here and I auditioned for Juilliard, which was where I trained as an actor. And actually, this morning I went on a run, I went past Lincoln Center. And this is going to sound like very boastful, but I knew I was going to get into Juilliard. I just knew it, which is a crazy thing to think. It's like harder to get into Juilliard than it is to get into like Princeton and Yale. And I guess I'm telling you that because well, it sounds embarrassing and boastful, but it also kind of points to that thing that you know you need at a certain time in your life and that you can kind of make it happen if you can get really clear about what it is you need. Look, I was like a closeted kid living in you know, a mid size city in Canada, and I thought, if I get to New York, I can be gay. So they're just going to take care of that. If I get to New York and get the approval that I can be an actor, I can do that. So I was like, oh, this is my opportunity to do that. So I guess the thing that I'm never telling, but it is like I just knew I was going to get in to Juilliard. Is that a dumb thing to share?

No, it's not. I feel like I'm looking at your face and you feel you seem so well.

No, it's not. I feel like I'm looking at your face and you feel you seem so well.

It's like I'm'm boastful guys, like, rarely do I have that much confidence about outcomes? You know, maybe that's what is embarrassing.

It's like I'm'm boastful guys, like, rarely do I have that much confidence about outcomes? You know, maybe that's what is embarrassing.

I think that's a pretty cool thing. I think we need to allow ourselves to feel like we're the boss and can achieve what we put our mind to.

I think that's a pretty cool thing. I think we need to allow ourselves to feel like we're the boss and can achieve what we put our mind to.

And like figuring out for ourselves what exactly it is we want, Yeah, and not just be beat around by like well over here and make this happen, but like getting really clear about what it is we want. Like that's almost harder. And maybe that's like what's harder as I get older? What is it I really want? Now? You know?

And like figuring out for ourselves what exactly it is we want, Yeah, and not just be beat around by like well over here and make this happen, but like getting really clear about what it is we want. Like that's almost harder. And maybe that's like what's harder as I get older? What is it I really want? Now? You know?

Is that a question you keep asking yourself all the time? You know you asked me earlier in this interview, like what do you want to do? Next, or like what's the dream role or something like that. I don't have that same kind of clarity I did when I was an eighteen year old kid that wanted to go to the greatest acting school in the world. You know, do you feel like, because you're so fulfilled in what you've accomplished, that you're not putting that weight or pressure on yourself says think about what's next?

Is that a question you keep asking yourself all the time? You know you asked me earlier in this interview, like what do you want to do? Next, or like what's the dream role or something like that. I don't have that same kind of clarity I did when I was an eighteen year old kid that wanted to go to the greatest acting school in the world. You know, do you feel like, because you're so fulfilled in what you've accomplished, that you're not putting that weight or pressure on yourself says think about what's next?

Maybe, but maybe I'm also a little more afraid to put myself into the scarier, the unknown or the like difficult. So I don't know, but I can't remember a time later in my career when I was so sure about what I wanted next, so sure that I knew I was going to make it happen. Yeah, that's interesting, is it?

Maybe, but maybe I'm also a little more afraid to put myself into the scarier, the unknown or the like difficult. So I don't know, but I can't remember a time later in my career when I was so sure about what I wanted next, so sure that I knew I was going to make it happen. Yeah, that's interesting, is it?

Yeah?

Yeah?

It is? It is.

It is? It is.

I think, especially at this point of your life. You mentioned, you know, forty five and new dad, and it's like, what do I want in this chapter?

I think, especially at this point of your life. You mentioned, you know, forty five and new dad, and it's like, what do I want in this chapter?

Yeah?

Yeah?

And I think it's okay to ask yourself that I really don't subscribe to the idea that you're born and there's one thing that you have to only do and stick to. Kind of what I said earlier, because I think interest change and evolve, and the world changes and evolves, and there might be something out there that you see and want to do that you're like, oh, I want to do that. Did you ever imagine you'd be doing an unscripted show at this point in your life?

And I think it's okay to ask yourself that I really don't subscribe to the idea that you're born and there's one thing that you have to only do and stick to. Kind of what I said earlier, because I think interest change and evolve, and the world changes and evolves, and there might be something out there that you see and want to do that you're like, oh, I want to do that. Did you ever imagine you'd be doing an unscripted show at this point in your life?

Totally? I mean absolutely. I think the thing that was the closest to sort of I know I'm going to get into Julliard was like I know I'm going to be a parent. That was the second always closest thing that I knew was going to happen, except for with you know, creating. Life is there's so many things that can happen, and you know, so it's also harder to be deterministic about it.

Totally? I mean absolutely. I think the thing that was the closest to sort of I know I'm going to get into Julliard was like I know I'm going to be a parent. That was the second always closest thing that I knew was going to happen, except for with you know, creating. Life is there's so many things that can happen, and you know, so it's also harder to be deterministic about it.

What is the one thing that you hope your daughter learns? I don't early age.

What is the one thing that you hope your daughter learns? I don't early age.

The big word that comes up for me in my favorite people in the world are curious people Like if you're not curious, I am checked out. So curiosity is number one. I want to foster that in her at every step of the step of it, Like, you just have to be curious about people, the world, buildings, would, architecture, music, whatever you want to be in, but be curious and be kind. Be kind. That's it. Be kind.

The big word that comes up for me in my favorite people in the world are curious people Like if you're not curious, I am checked out. So curiosity is number one. I want to foster that in her at every step of the step of it, Like, you just have to be curious about people, the world, buildings, would, architecture, music, whatever you want to be in, but be curious and be kind. Be kind. That's it. Be kind.

Can't say that enough, you know for a man that's you know, rapping Season two of Platonic. Just did a Hallmark Plus series helping people with their dream homes. A dad of two, a two year old almost you're pretty put together. You're pretty put together. Don't know what secret you have going on, but.

Can't say that enough, you know for a man that's you know, rapping Season two of Platonic. Just did a Hallmark Plus series helping people with their dream homes. A dad of two, a two year old almost you're pretty put together. You're pretty put together. Don't know what secret you have going on, but.

You don't simulate it. Wondering what's going on?

You don't simulate it. Wondering what's going on?

Crying in a pillow.

Crying in a pillow.

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Episodes of The Star trek Luke.

This has been so nice. Remind us all how to watch your new series, what it is all the things.

This has been so nice. Remind us all how to watch your new series, what it is all the things.

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The show is called Home Is Where the Heart Is and you can find it on Hallmarkplus dot com.

Okay, we can't wait for that. It's so good to catch up with you. What a treat when I found out we would be talking, you know, a couple of years after our first interview. It's really cool to see you continuing to do things that fuels your soul and I love to see it.

Okay, we can't wait for that. It's so good to catch up with you. What a treat when I found out we would be talking, you know, a couple of years after our first interview. It's really cool to see you continuing to do things that fuels your soul and I love to see it.

Thank you and you too, and let's pick up again in a couple of years.

Thank you and you too, and let's pick up again in a couple of years.

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Sounds good, one man, Thank you, all right, thank you. I've never said this before. Is hosted by me Tommy Dederio. This podcast is executive produced by Andrew Piglisi at iHeartRadio and by Me Tommy, with editing by Joshua Colaudney. I've Never Said this Before is part of the Elvis Duran podcast Network on iHeart Podcasts. For more rate, review and subscribe to our show and if you liked this episode, tell your friends. Until next time, I'm Tommy Dedario