In part two of this conversation, former SAS soldier and Survivor winner Mark Wales returns to I Catch Killers for a raw and honest discussion. Mark opens up about surviving childhood sexual abuse and the difficult decision to pursue justice decades later, the mental toll of war and elite military service, and how he rebuilt his life through business school, boxing, reality TV, and writing.

Gary and Mark also dig into some big-picture issues: the case for national service, escalating global conflicts in the Middle East, Russia-Ukraine and the Indo-Pacific, the changing face of modern warfare, and the rise of extremism in the social media age. Mark shares hard-won lessons on leadership and resilience from his book Mission Ready, drawing on his experience in Special Forces and top-tier business environments.