Dr Jeff Smalldon on Charles Manson’s control, murderers’ mindsets, earning serial killer trust, and Ted Bundy’s message.

How did Charles Manson convince multiple people to murder nine innocent victims?

In this episode of I Catch Killers, forensic psychologist Dr Jeff Smalldon recounts his dealings with Manson and the women devoted to him, and reveals how they tried to recruit him. Jeff also reveals what he's learnt about the mindset of murderers, the secret to gaining the trust of a serial killer, and the chilling three word message Ted Bundy sent him.

How did Charles Manson convince multiple people to murder nine innocent victims?
In this episode of I Catch Killers, forensic psychologist Dr Jeff Smalldon recounts his dealings with Manson and the women devoted to him, and reveals how they tried to recruit him. Jeff also reveals what he's learnt about the mindset of murderers, the secret to gaining the trust of a serial killer, and the chilling three word message Ted Bundy sent him.

After 25 years working in homicide, former Detective Chief Inspector Gary Jubelin is sitting down across the interview room table from cops, crims, addicts, victims, small-time cheats and big-town lawyers, asking them to share their stories. 

One of the country’s most successful podcasts, I Catch Killers reveals the reality of life and death inside the justice system. Gary talks about the big things with an open mind - good and evil, hope and suffering, joy, tragedy - and redemption. 

 

After 25 years working in homicide, former Detective Chief Inspector Gary Jubelin is sitting down across the interview room table from cops, crims, addicts, victims, small-time cheats and big-town lawyers, asking them to share their stories.&nbsp;
One of the country&rsquo;s most successful podcasts, I Catch Killers reveals the reality of life and death inside the justice system. Gary talks about the big things with an open mind - good and evil, hope and suffering, joy, tragedy - and redemption.&nbsp;
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After 25 years working in homicide, former Detective Chief Inspector Gary Jubelin is sitting down across the interview room table from cops, crims, addicts, victims, small-time cheats and big-town lawyers, asking them to share their stories.

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After 25 years working homicide, former Detective Gary Jubelin is sitting across the interview room table from cops, crims, and victims.

After 25 years working in homicide, former Detective Chief Inspector Gary Jubelin is sitting down across the interview room table from cops, crims, addicts, victims, small-time cheats and big-town lawyers, asking them to share their stories. 

One of the country’s most successful podcasts, I Catch Killers reveals the reality of life and death inside the justice system. Gary talks about the big things with an open mind - good and evil, hope and suffering, joy, tragedy - and redemption. 

After 25 years working in homicide, former Detective Chief Inspector Gary Jubelin is sitting down across the interview room table from cops, crims, addicts, victims, small-time cheats and big-town lawyers, asking them to share their stories.&nbsp;
One of the country&rsquo;s most successful podcasts, I Catch Killers reveals the reality of life and death inside the justice system. Gary talks about the big things with an open mind - good and evil, hope and suffering, joy, tragedy - and redemption.&nbsp;

Gaining the trust of a serial killer: Dr. Jeff Smalldon Pt. 2

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Gary and Rojé examine Katherine Knight's case—Australia's only woman jailed for life without parole—exploring the crime scene, warning signs and nature vs nurture debate.

In this second part of I Catch Killers, Gary and Rojé delve deep into the chilling psyche of Katherine Knight—the only woman in Australia sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole.

What drives a person to commit the unthinkable? They explore the gruesome crime scene that shocked even the most veteran homicide detectives, the calculation behind the skinning and butchering of John Price, and the psychological "triggers" that Katherine used to justify her actions.

Gary and Rojé break down the terrifying final 24 hours of John Price's life, the warning signs that were missed, and the "nature vs. nurture" debate surrounding Knight’s fraternal twin sister. This is a gritty look into a real-life horror story and the long-term impact such extreme cases have on the detectives and communities left in their wake.

In this second part of I Catch Killers, Gary and Roj&eacute; delve deep into the chilling psyche of Katherine Knight&mdash;the only woman in Australia sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole.
What drives a person to commit the unthinkable? They explore the gruesome crime scene that shocked even the most veteran homicide detectives, the calculation behind the skinning and butchering of John Price, and the psychological "triggers" that Katherine used to justify her actions.
Gary and Roj&eacute; break down the terrifying final 24 hours of John Price's life, the warning signs that were missed, and the "nature vs. nurture" debate surrounding Knight&rsquo;s fraternal twin sister. This is a gritty look into a real-life horror story and the long-term impact such extreme cases have on the detectives and communities left in their wake.

Skinned, beheaded & cooked for dinner: Rojé Augustin Pt. 2 

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What Katherine Knight did to her partner John Price wasn't just murder, it was something far more twisted.

What Katherine Knight did to her partner John Price wasn't just murder, it was something far more twisted. Katherine was a woman consumed by two things: a crippling fear of abandonment, and an insatiable need for control, enforced through violence, manipulation, and sexual exploitation. Most Australians know the horror of how John Price died. What they don't know is the decades-long history of abuse Katherine inflicted on the men in her life, and anyone else she deemed an obstacle. Which raises an uncomfortable question, if a man had done to women what Katherine did to men, would he have been stopped years earlier?

In this episode of I Catch Killers, Gary Jubelin is joined by Rojé Augustin, whose new book The Butcher of Aberdeen, delves into Katherine’s chilling past shaped by childhood trauma, violent relationships, and a relentless descent into madness.

Rojé Augustin is the author ofThe Butcher of Aberdeen: An Australian Story of Sex, Madness, and Murder.

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What Katherine Knight did to her partner John Price wasn't just murder, it was something far more twisted. Katherine was a woman consumed by two things: a crippling fear of abandonment, and an insatiable need for control, enforced through violence, manipulation, and sexual exploitation. Most Australians know the horror of how John Price died. What they don't know is the decades-long history of abuse Katherine inflicted on the men in her life, and anyone else she deemed an obstacle. Which raises an uncomfortable question, if a man had done to women what Katherine did to men, would he have been stopped years earlier?
In this episode of I Catch Killers, Gary Jubelin is joined by Roj&eacute; Augustin, whose new book The Butcher of Aberdeen, delves into Katherine&rsquo;s chilling past shaped by childhood trauma, violent relationships, and a relentless descent into madness.
Roj&eacute; Augustin is the author of<a href="https://www.allenandunwin.com/browse/book/Neil-Mercer-Falsely-Convicted-9781761472978"> </a><a href="https://www.simonandschuster.com.au/books/The-Butcher-of-Aberdeen/Roje-Augustin/9798895658420">The Butcher of Aberdeen: An Australian Story of Sex, Madness, and Murder.</a>
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Katherine Knight: The life of Australia's most shocking female killer | Roje Augustin Pt. 1 

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Wrongful convictions exposed: Neil Mercer & Gary Jubelin dissect the Harry Blackburn scandal, flawed DNA evidence & justice system failures.

Veteran journalist and author Neil Mercer returns to I Catch Killers for part two of his confronting examination of wrongful convictions in the Australian justice system. 

In this episode, Neil and Gary Jubelin revisit one of the most embarrassing periods in NSW Police history: the case of Harry Blackburn, a former police superintendent publicly branded a serial rapist and paraded before the media before he was ever formally charged. They unravel the extraordinary chain of failures that led to his very public downfall, a saga that only ended when a Royal Commission finally exposed the truth. 

They also unpack DNA evidence, long considered the gold standard in forensic science, and just how far from infallible it can be, and the broader, systemic issues that allow innocent people to be wrongly convicted: unreliable eyewitness identification, the historical use of "police verbals" and false confessions, inadequate legal representation, and the unique challenges faced by First Nations Australians navigating a justice system not built with their language or culture in mind.

Neil Mercer is the author of Falsely Convicted: True Stories of Injustice in Australia. 

Want to hear more from Neil Mercer? Listen to his other interviews with Gary on I Catch Killers here and here. 

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Veteran journalist and author Neil Mercer returns to I Catch Killers for part two of his confronting examination of wrongful convictions in the Australian justice system.&nbsp;
In this episode, Neil and Gary Jubelin revisit one of the most embarrassing periods in NSW Police history: the case of Harry Blackburn, a former police superintendent publicly branded a serial rapist and paraded before the media before he was ever formally charged. They unravel the extraordinary chain of failures that led to his very public downfall, a saga that only ended when a Royal Commission finally exposed the truth.&nbsp;
They also unpack DNA evidence, long considered the gold standard in forensic science, and just how far from infallible it can be, and the broader, systemic issues that allow innocent people to be wrongly convicted: unreliable eyewitness identification, the historical use of "police verbals" and false confessions, inadequate legal representation, and the unique challenges faced by First Nations Australians navigating a justice system not built with their language or culture in mind.
Neil Mercer is the author of <a href="https://www.allenandunwin.com/browse/book/Neil-Mercer-Falsely-Convicted-9781761472978">Falsely Convicted: True Stories of Injustice in Australia</a>.&nbsp;
Want to hear more from Neil Mercer? Listen to his other interviews with Gary on I Catch Killers&nbsp;<a href="https://pod.fo/e/26c80e">here</a> and <a href="https://pod.fo/e/26c80d">here</a>.&nbsp;
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The innocent cop falsely labelled as a serial rapist: Neil Mercer Pt. 2

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Gaining the trust of a serial killer: Dr. Jeff Smalldon Pt. 2

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