Emma Caldwell murder: Sam Poling on confronting Iain Packer on Gary Jubelin podcast

BBC journalist Sam Poling investigated the Emma Caldwell cold case, only to discover Iain Packer - the man she’d been interviewing for months - was the man who murdered Emma. 

Who killed Emma Caldwell? The 27-year-old woman mysteriously disappeared in 2005. Her body was found naked in isolated Scottish woods just weeks later. But it took 19 years to catch her killer. 

BBC journalist Sam Poling began investigating the cold case, only to discover the man she’d been interviewing for months was the man who murdered Emma. In a rare interview, Sam shares how she came face to face with a killer.

Listen to Who Killed Emma? here.

 

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Who killed Emma Caldwell? The 27-year-old woman mysteriously disappeared in 2005. Her body was found naked in isolated Scottish woods just weeks later. But it took 19 years to catch her killer.&nbsp;
BBC journalist Sam Poling began investigating the cold case, only to discover the man she&rsquo;d been interviewing for months was the man who murdered Emma. In a rare interview, Sam shares how she came face to face with a killer.
<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/who-killed-emma/id1560337631">Listen to Who Killed Emma? here.</a>
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After 25 years working in homicide, former Detective Chief Inspector Gary Jubelin is sitting down across the interview room table from cops, crims, addicts, victims, small-time cheats and big-town lawyers, asking them to share their stories. 

One of the country’s most successful podcasts, I Catch Killers reveals the reality of life and death inside the justice system. Gary talks about the big things with an open mind - good and evil, hope and suffering, joy, tragedy - and redemption. 

 

After 25 years working in homicide, former Detective Chief Inspector Gary Jubelin is sitting down across the interview room table from cops, crims, addicts, victims, small-time cheats and big-town lawyers, asking them to share their stories.&nbsp;
One of the country&rsquo;s most successful podcasts, I Catch Killers reveals the reality of life and death inside the justice system. Gary talks about the big things with an open mind - good and evil, hope and suffering, joy, tragedy - and redemption.&nbsp;
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After 25 years working in homicide, former Detective Chief Inspector Gary Jubelin is sitting down across the interview room table from cops, crims, addicts, victims, small-time cheats and big-town lawyers, asking them to share their stories.

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After 25 years working homicide, former Detective Gary Jubelin is sitting across the interview room table from cops, crims, and victims.

After 25 years working in homicide, former Detective Chief Inspector Gary Jubelin is sitting down across the interview room table from cops, crims, addicts, victims, small-time cheats and big-town lawyers, asking them to share their stories. 

One of the country’s most successful podcasts, I Catch Killers reveals the reality of life and death inside the justice system. Gary talks about the big things with an open mind - good and evil, hope and suffering, joy, tragedy - and redemption. 

After 25 years working in homicide, former Detective Chief Inspector Gary Jubelin is sitting down across the interview room table from cops, crims, addicts, victims, small-time cheats and big-town lawyers, asking them to share their stories.&nbsp;
One of the country&rsquo;s most successful podcasts, I Catch Killers reveals the reality of life and death inside the justice system. Gary talks about the big things with an open mind - good and evil, hope and suffering, joy, tragedy - and redemption.&nbsp;

The murderer police missed, until I found him: Sam Poling Pt.1

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Victoria Police veteran Graeme Simpfendorfer confronts past abuse after a grooming lecture, reports his abuser as he and Gary unpack trauma.

Graeme Simpfendorfer spent 27 years in the Victoria Police, leading elite squads in Homicide and Sexual Offences. He was a veteran detective catching predators until a training lecture on grooming behaviours unlocked a trauma he had suppressed for decades. Graeme realised that as a teenager, he had been the victim of the very crimes he spent his professional life investigating.

In this episode, Gary and Graeme discuss the "war of attrition" that followed when a top detective had to report his own abuser. Graeme reveals the clinical reality of recording a sting call and the struggle of wearing a "Batman mask" to survive his trauma.

If you or someone you know needs help, there is support available. You don’t have to go through it alone. Please reach out to support services like 1800RESPECT.

This interview was recorded before Graeme's case went to trial. In the time since this recording, Graeme's specific case went to court and resulted in an acquittal. However, the same individual also faced trials over a number of other historical sexual offences against children. The defendant pleaded not guilty to all charges and has maintained his innocence throughout. While he was found guilty of sexual offences relating to four victims, the defendant continues to maintain his innocence and has filed a motion to appeal those convictions.

Listen to Graeme's previous interview on I Catch Killers here: Part 1 & Part 2

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Graeme Simpfendorfer spent 27 years in the Victoria Police, leading elite squads in Homicide and Sexual Offences. He was a veteran detective catching predators until a training lecture on grooming behaviours unlocked a trauma he had suppressed for decades. Graeme realised that as a teenager, he had been the victim of the very crimes he spent his professional life investigating.
In this episode, Gary and Graeme discuss the "war of attrition" that followed when a top detective had to report his own abuser. Graeme reveals the clinical reality of recording a sting call and the struggle of wearing a "Batman mask" to survive his trauma.
If you or someone you know needs help, there is support available. You don&rsquo;t have to go through it alone. Please reach out to support services like <a href="https://1800respect.org.au/">1800RESPECT.</a>
This interview was recorded before Graeme's case went to trial. In the time since this recording, Graeme's specific case went to court and resulted in an acquittal. However, the same individual also faced trials over a number of other historical sexual offences against children. The defendant pleaded not guilty to all charges and has maintained his innocence throughout. While he was found guilty of sexual offences relating to four victims, the defendant continues to maintain his innocence and has filed a motion to appeal those convictions.
Listen to Graeme's previous interview on I Catch Killers here: <a href="https://omny.fm/shows/i-catch-killers-with-gary-jubelin/ick-graeme-simpfendorfer-p2-final">Part 1 </a>&amp; <a href="https://omny.fm/shows/i-catch-killers-with-gary-jubelin/ick-graeme-simpfendorfer-p2-final">Part 2</a>
Questions for Gary: icatchkillers@news.com.au&nbsp;
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 ‘The hardest investigation was the one where I was the victim’: Graeme Simpfendorfer Pt.1

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One year after Audrey Griffin's murder, her mum Kathleen Kirby shares numb grief, her fight for justice, and the system’s failings for victims’ families

Twelve months after the brutal murder of her daughter Audrey Griffin, Kathleen Kirby returns to discuss the "numb" reality of her life. Unable to grieve while fighting for justice, Kathleen has stepped in where the system failed - organising community walks and personally tracking down overlooked CCTV footage.

Gary and Kathleen explore the devastating "ripple effect" of homicide and the lack of support for families left behind, from administrative coldness regarding Audrey’s belongings to the confusing pain of waiting for a coroner’s report.

Listen to Kathleen's previous interview on I Catch Killers here: Part 1 & Part 2.

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Twelve months after the brutal murder of her daughter Audrey Griffin, Kathleen Kirby returns to discuss the "numb" reality of her life. Unable to grieve while fighting for justice, Kathleen has stepped in where the system failed - organising community walks and personally tracking down overlooked CCTV footage.
Gary and Kathleen explore the devastating "ripple effect" of homicide and the lack of support for families left behind, from administrative coldness regarding Audrey&rsquo;s belongings to the confusing pain of waiting for a coroner&rsquo;s report.
Listen to Kathleen's previous interview on I Catch Killers here: <a href="https://omny.fm/shows/i-catch-killers-with-gary-jubelin/they-called-it-an-accident-it-was-murder-kathleen-kirby-pt-1">Part 1 </a>&amp; <a href="https://omny.fm/shows/i-catch-killers-with-gary-jubelin/my-life-has-no-purpose-kathleen-kirby-pt-2">Part 2.</a>
Questions for Gary: icatchkillers@news.com.au&nbsp;
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BONUS: 12 months on, Kathleen Kirby is still waiting for justice for Audrey

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In 1974, a 17-year-old girl in Sydney answered the door to a man claiming to be an encyclopaedia salesman who carried nothing with him and left her with a chilling "full body rush" of fear.

In 1974, a 17-year-old girl in Sydney answered the door to a man claiming to be an encyclopaedia salesman who carried nothing with him and left her with a chilling "full body rush" of fear.

Decades later, that woman's daughter - award-winning author Candice Fox - realised this family story aligned with the timeline of two unsolved homicides from the same neighbourhood. Candice details how this personal connection led her to report the encounter to police and attempt her own investigation into the deaths of Lynette White and Maria Smith and how these tragedies formed the inspiration for her new novel. 

In 1974, a 17-year-old girl in Sydney answered the door to a man claiming to be an encyclopaedia salesman who carried nothing with him and left her with a chilling "full body rush" of fear.
Decades later, that woman's daughter - award-winning author Candice Fox - realised this family story aligned with the timeline of two unsolved homicides from the same neighbourhood. Candice details how this personal connection led her to report the encounter to police and attempt her own investigation into the deaths of Lynette White and Maria Smith and how these tragedies formed the inspiration for her new novel.&nbsp;

The unsolved murders of Lynette White and Maria Smith: Candice Fox Pt.2

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The murderer police missed, until I found him: Sam Poling Pt.1

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