Leisl Smith's sister reflects on moment she discovered heartbreaking news

At 23, Leisl Smith had her whole life in front of her. But her ex boyfriend, James Scott Church, had other ideas. Six years after she went missing, he was charged with her murder. After a gruelling 13-week trial, there are still no answers. Why? Because Church took his own life a day before the verdict was due to be made public - locking the judge’s verdict away forever. Jerildene Cane is hoping to change that, and bring closure to her family.

FROM THE ARCHIVES: At 23, Leisl Smith had her whole life in front of her. But her ex-boyfriend, James Scott Church, had other ideas. Six years after she went missing, he was charged with her murder. After a gruelling 13-week trial, there are still no answers. Why? Because Church took his own life a day before the verdict was due to be made public - locking the judge’s verdict away forever. Jerildene Cane is hoping to change that, and bring closure to her family.

FROM THE ARCHIVES: At 23, Leisl Smith had her whole life in front of her. But her ex-boyfriend, James Scott Church, had other ideas. Six years after she went missing, he was charged with her murder. After a gruelling 13-week trial, there are still no answers. Why? Because Church took his own life a day before the verdict was due to be made public - locking the judge&rsquo;s verdict away forever. Jerildene Cane is hoping to change that, and bring closure to her family.

After 25 years working in homicide, former Detective Chief Inspector Gary Jubelin is sitting down across the interview room table from cops, crims, addicts, victims, small-time cheats and big-town lawyers, asking them to share their stories. 

One of the country’s most successful podcasts, I Catch Killers reveals the reality of life and death inside the justice system. Gary talks about the big things with an open mind - good and evil, hope and suffering, joy, tragedy - and redemption. 

 

After 25 years working in homicide, former Detective Chief Inspector Gary Jubelin is sitting down across the interview room table from cops, crims, addicts, victims, small-time cheats and big-town lawyers, asking them to share their stories.&nbsp;
One of the country&rsquo;s most successful podcasts, I Catch Killers reveals the reality of life and death inside the justice system. Gary talks about the big things with an open mind - good and evil, hope and suffering, joy, tragedy - and redemption.&nbsp;
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After 25 years working in homicide, former Detective Chief Inspector Gary Jubelin is sitting down across the interview room table from cops, crims, addicts, victims, small-time cheats and big-town lawyers, asking them to share their stories.

I Catch Killers with Gary Jubelin

After 25 years working in homicide, former Detective Chief Inspector Gary Jubelin is sitting down across the interview room table from cops, crims, addicts, victims, small-time cheats and big-town lawyers, asking them to share their stories. 

One of the country’s most successful podcasts, I Catch Killers reveals the reality of life and death inside the justice system. Gary talks about the big things with an open mind - good and evil, hope and suffering, joy, tragedy - and redemption. 

After 25 years working in homicide, former Detective Chief Inspector Gary Jubelin is sitting down across the interview room table from cops, crims, addicts, victims, small-time cheats and big-town lawyers, asking them to share their stories.&nbsp;
One of the country&rsquo;s most successful podcasts, I Catch Killers reveals the reality of life and death inside the justice system. Gary talks about the big things with an open mind - good and evil, hope and suffering, joy, tragedy - and redemption.&nbsp;<a href="http://www.icatchkillers.com.au"></a>

After 25 years working homicide, former Detective Gary Jubelin is sitting across the interview room table from cops, crims, and victims.

After 25 years working in homicide, former Detective Chief Inspector Gary Jubelin is sitting down across the interview room table from cops, crims, addicts, victims, small-time cheats and big-town lawyers, asking them to share their stories.&nbsp;
One of the country&rsquo;s most successful podcasts, I Catch Killers reveals the reality of life and death inside the justice system. Gary talks about the big things with an open mind - good and evil, hope and suffering, joy, tragedy - and redemption.&nbsp;

BONUS: Remembering Leisl: Jerildene Cane Pt.2

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Gary Jubelin talks to Kerry Tucker, ex-prisoner turned reform advocate, about her 20-year journey from "jail lawyer" to PhD holder and prison reform champion.

In this episode of I Catch Killers, Gary Jubelin sits down with Kerry Tucker, former prisoner turned prison reform advocate to track her extraordinary 20-year redemption.

Inside, Kerry became known as the "jail lawyer." 

She kept daily diaries, completed a Master of Arts through Swinburne University (the first Australian university graduation ever held inside a prison), wrote a children's book for incarcerated mothers that's still in circulation today, and began writing parole letters for other women, going from almost no women getting parole to 38 at her lowest count.

She spent her final 6 months working in a law firm in Werribee, left prison on a Friday and was lecturing at university on the Monday, went on to complete a PhD, and has spent two decades advocating for prison reform, education and fraud awareness.

That work was formally recognised in November 2022, when the Magistrates' Court of Victoria spent and removed her criminal and prison record with the endorsement of the Victorian Chief Commissioner of Police, the Attorney General of Victoria, the Assistant Commissioner of Corrections and the Chief Magistrate.

In this episode of I Catch Killers, Gary Jubelin sits down with Kerry Tucker, former prisoner turned prison reform advocate to track her extraordinary 20-year redemption.
Inside, Kerry became known as the "jail lawyer."&nbsp;
She kept daily diaries, completed a Master of Arts through Swinburne University (the first Australian university graduation ever held inside a prison), wrote a children's book for incarcerated mothers that's still in circulation today, and began writing parole letters for other women, going from almost no women getting parole to 38 at her lowest count.
She spent her final 6 months working in a law firm in Werribee, left prison on a Friday and was lecturing at university on the Monday, went on to complete a PhD, and has spent two decades advocating for prison reform, education and fraud awareness.
That work was formally recognised in November 2022, when the Magistrates' Court of Victoria spent and removed her criminal and prison record with the endorsement of the Victorian Chief Commissioner of Police, the Attorney General of Victoria, the Assistant Commissioner of Corrections and the Chief Magistrate.

Surviving day one in maximum security women's prison: Kerry Tucker Pt.2

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Suburban mum Kerry Tucker stole $2M from her employer over 6 years. Hear her shocking first 24 hours in a maximum security prison.

When suburban mum Kerry Tucker decided she should start hitting the gym, she didn’t expect to be arrested a month later. For more than six years, Kerry had stolen two million dollars from her employer. 

In this episode, Kerry takes us inside the first 24 hours inside a women’s maximum security prison as a ‘cleanskin’, where she was locked up with some of Australia’s most infamous female criminals.

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When suburban mum Kerry Tucker decided she should start hitting the gym, she didn&rsquo;t expect to be arrested a month later. For more than six years, Kerry had stolen two million dollars from her employer.&nbsp;
In this episode, Kerry takes us inside the first 24 hours inside a women&rsquo;s maximum security prison as a &lsquo;cleanskin&rsquo;, where she was locked up with some of Australia&rsquo;s most infamous female criminals.
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@ICatchKillers-Podcast">You can watch I Catch Killers on Youtube here.&nbsp;</a>
Follow I Catch Killers: Instagram:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/icatchkillers/?hl=en"> @icatchkillers </a>Tiktok:<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@icatchkillerspodcast"> @icatchkillerspodcast </a>Facebook:<a href="https://www.facebook.com/icatchkillers/"> @icatchkillers</a>
Email the show at icatchkillers@news.com.au

From soccer mum to prisoner number 171435:  Kerry Tucker Pt. 1

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Gary and Rojé examine Katherine Knight's case—Australia's only woman jailed for life without parole—exploring the crime scene, warning signs and nature vs nurture debate.

In this second part of I Catch Killers, Gary and Rojé delve deep into the chilling psyche of Katherine Knight—the only woman in Australia sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole.

What drives a person to commit the unthinkable? They explore the gruesome crime scene that shocked even the most veteran homicide detectives, the calculation behind the skinning and butchering of John Price, and the psychological "triggers" that Katherine used to justify her actions.

Gary and Rojé break down the terrifying final 24 hours of John Price's life, the warning signs that were missed, and the "nature vs. nurture" debate surrounding Knight’s fraternal twin sister. This is a gritty look into a real-life horror story and the long-term impact such extreme cases have on the detectives and communities left in their wake.

In this second part of I Catch Killers, Gary and Roj&eacute; delve deep into the chilling psyche of Katherine Knight&mdash;the only woman in Australia sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole.
What drives a person to commit the unthinkable? They explore the gruesome crime scene that shocked even the most veteran homicide detectives, the calculation behind the skinning and butchering of John Price, and the psychological "triggers" that Katherine used to justify her actions.
Gary and Roj&eacute; break down the terrifying final 24 hours of John Price's life, the warning signs that were missed, and the "nature vs. nurture" debate surrounding Knight&rsquo;s fraternal twin sister. This is a gritty look into a real-life horror story and the long-term impact such extreme cases have on the detectives and communities left in their wake.

Skinned, beheaded & cooked for dinner: Rojé Augustin Pt. 2 

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BONUS: Remembering Leisl: Jerildene Cane Pt.2

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