What will separate tomorrow's leading organisations from everyone else?

In this episode of Humanising Data, Erin Evans sits down with Joe Waller, Chief Technology Officer at Finder. With more than 25 years of experience across software engineering, AI, gaming, fintech and enterprise technology, Joe has held senior leadership roles at IBM, Betfair and FlamingoAI before joining Finder, where he now leads the company's technology strategy.

Drawing on decades of experience building technology-led organisations, Joe shares why the future belongs to businesses that don't just adopt AI, but fundamentally rethink how they operate around it.

Together, Erin and Joe discuss what defines an AI-native organisation, how leadership must evolve alongside technology, why trust and organisational memory matter more than ever, and what it will take for businesses to remain competitive in the age of AI.

Whether you're leading technology, data or business transformation, this episode offers practical insights into the next evolution of work.

 Listen now on Spotify.

What will separate tomorrow's leading organisations from everyone else?
In this episode of Humanising Data,&nbsp;Erin Evans&nbsp;sits down with&nbsp;Joe Waller, Chief Technology Officer at Finder. With more than 25 years of experience across software engineering, AI, gaming, fintech and enterprise technology, Joe has held senior leadership roles at IBM, Betfair and FlamingoAI before joining Finder, where he now leads the company's technology strategy. Drawing on decades of experience building technology-led organisations, Joe shares why the future belongs to businesses that don't just adopt AI, but fundamentally rethink how they operate around it. Together, Erin and Joe discuss what defines an AI-native organisation, how leadership must evolve alongside technology, why trust and organisational memory matter more than ever, and what it will take for businesses to remain competitive in the age of AI. Whether you're leading technology, data or business transformation, this episode offers practical insights into the next evolution of work. &nbsp;Listen now on Spotify.

Welcome to the Humanising Data Podcast where we aim to explore the intersection between Leadership, Innovation, Growth, Challenge and of course the ever-evolving world of data!

Intelligen's CEO Erin Evans and Chief Technology Officer and Data Author, Adam Morton, is joined by a selection of Australia's leading men and women in data and IT dedicated to sharing their experiences working in Data and IT.

Hear from data leaders as they share their career stories, big pivots, worst jobs, and best career advice, and remind us no two career paths are the same.

Each episode is packed with valuable insights and tips for those looking to excel in the world of data. So whether you're just starting out or a seasoned professional, join us and get ready to take your data skills to the next level!

Welcome to the Humanising Data Podcast where we aim to explore the intersection between Leadership, Innovation, Growth, Challenge and of course the ever-evolving world of data!
Intelligen's CEO Erin Evans and Chief Technology Officer and Data Author, Adam Morton, is joined by a selection of Australia's leading men and women in data and IT dedicated to sharing their experiences working in Data and IT.
Hear from data leaders as they share their career stories, big pivots, worst jobs, and best career advice, and remind us no two career paths are the same.
Each episode is packed with valuable insights and tips for those looking to excel in the world of data. So whether you're just starting out or a seasoned professional, join us and get ready to take your data skills to the next level!

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Joe Waller- Chief Technology Officer at Finder

In this episode of Humanising Data, Erin Evans sits down with Su-Ann Porter, Head of Advanced Analytics at GrainCorp, for a conversation that challenges one of the biggest assumptions in the AI conversation today.

As technology accelerates, many organisations are focused on tools, automation, and efficiency. But Su-Ann argues the real differentiator will not be the technology itself. It will be the people who know how to adapt, lead through change, and connect innovation to meaningful business outcomes.

Drawing on more than 20 years of experience across retail, property, logistics, beverages, and agriculture, Su Ann shares what she has learned leading transformation in complex environments where success depends just as much on trust, culture, and communication as it does on data and AI capability.

Together, they explore how GrainCorp is operationalising AI across the business, why most transformation challenges are ultimately human challenges, and what leaders need to do to create clarity in an environment where technology is evolving faster than ever before.

The conversation also dives into the future workforce, the growing importance of judgement and adaptability, and why the organisations that thrive in the next decade will be the ones that empower people alongside technology, not behind it.

A thoughtful discussion on leadership, change, and why the future of competitive advantage may be far more human than we expect.

 Listen to the latest episode today.

In this episode of&nbsp;Humanising Data, Erin Evans sits down with Su-Ann Porter, Head of Advanced Analytics at GrainCorp, for a conversation that challenges one of the biggest assumptions in the AI conversation today. As technology accelerates, many organisations are focused on tools, automation, and efficiency. But Su-Ann argues the real differentiator will not be the technology itself. It will be the people who know how to adapt, lead through change, and connect innovation to meaningful business outcomes. Drawing on more than 20 years of experience across retail, property, logistics, beverages, and agriculture, Su Ann shares what she has learned leading transformation in complex environments where success depends just as much on trust, culture, and communication as it does on data and AI capability. Together, they explore how GrainCorp is operationalising AI across the business, why most transformation challenges are ultimately human challenges, and what leaders need to do to create clarity in an environment where technology is evolving faster than ever before. The conversation also dives into the future workforce, the growing importance of judgement and adaptability, and why the organisations that thrive in the next decade will be the ones that empower people alongside technology, not behind it. A thoughtful discussion on leadership, change, and why the future of competitive advantage may be far more human than we expect. &nbsp;Listen to the latest episode today.

SuAnn Porter- Head of Advanced Analytics - GrainCorp

In this episode, CEO Erin Evans is joined by Stuart Freer, Chief Information and Digital Officer at Coates, a 140-year-old industrial business in the middle of a major digital reinvention.

With a career spanning Tesco, Coles, and Mecca, Stuart has led transformation at scale across the UK and Australia. Now, he’s taking on a different kind of challenge, embedding data and AI into a traditionally blue-collar organisation and reshaping how work actually gets done.

This conversation starts with a tension many leaders are feeling right now. AI is not coming for your job, but it is coming for how your job works.

From there, things get real.

Stuart breaks down why most AI initiatives fail before they even start, and why the real opportunity lies in rethinking processes, not just layering in new technology. It is less about replacing people, and more about stripping out friction, redefining roles, and enabling teams to focus on what actually drives value.

They explore what it takes to lead through this shift, from building trust across teams to balancing innovation with governance, risk, and accountability. There is no playbook, just a constant tension between moving fast and getting it right.

Along the way, they unpack the changing shape of the workforce, the importance of commercial thinking, and why the organisations that win will be the ones that simplify relentlessly.

A grounded, inside look at how leaders are navigating one of the biggest shifts in how we work.

 Listen to the latest episode today.

In this episode, CEO Erin Evans is joined by Stuart Freer, Chief Information and Digital Officer at Coates, a 140-year-old industrial business in the middle of a major digital reinvention. With a career spanning Tesco, Coles, and Mecca, Stuart has led transformation at scale across the UK and Australia. Now, he&rsquo;s taking on a different kind of challenge, embedding data and AI into a traditionally blue-collar organisation and reshaping how work actually gets done. This conversation starts with a tension many leaders are feeling right now. AI is not coming for your job, but it is coming for how your job works. From there, things get real. Stuart breaks down why most AI initiatives fail before they even start, and why the real opportunity lies in rethinking processes, not just layering in new technology. It is less about replacing people, and more about stripping out friction, redefining roles, and enabling teams to focus on what actually drives value. They explore what it takes to lead through this shift, from building trust across teams to balancing innovation with governance, risk, and accountability. There is no playbook, just a constant tension between moving fast and getting it right. Along the way, they unpack the changing shape of the workforce, the importance of commercial thinking, and why the organisations that win will be the ones that simplify relentlessly. A grounded, inside look at how leaders are navigating one of the biggest shifts in how we work. &nbsp;Listen to the latest episode today.

Stuart Freer - Chief Information & Digital Officer - Coates 

In this episode, Erin Evans sits down with Cameron Price, a global data and analytics leader with more than 20 years of experience working across the US, UK and Australia.
Cameron has built and led multiple data businesses throughout his career. He previously founded a consulting firm that was later acquired by Deloitte, and went on to work at AWS, partnering with organisations on large-scale data and AI transformation. Now back in Australia, he brings a unique global perspective on how the data and AI landscape is evolving.

To kick off the season, we start with a big question at the heart of everything we do: what does it really mean to humanise data?

Because right now, many organisations are still drowning in dashboards, chasing AI hype, and struggling to turn data into real decisions.

Cameron shares why the most powerful AI will eventually become invisible, embedded seamlessly into how organisations operate. No fanfare. Just better decisions happening faster.

Through this lens, they unpack the changing role of data professionals, the rise of the knowledge engineer, the risks boards should actually be worried about, and why active data governance is becoming non-negotiable.

They also tackle the future of consulting, the billions still wasted rebuilding data platforms, and why putting the customer at the centre of every decision is still the north star.

In this episode, Erin Evans sits down with Cameron Price, a global data and analytics leader with more than 20 years of experience working across the US, UK and Australia. Cameron has built and led multiple data businesses throughout his career. He previously founded a consulting firm that was later acquired by Deloitte, and went on to work at AWS, partnering with organisations on large-scale data and AI transformation. Now back in Australia, he brings a unique global perspective on how the data and AI landscape is evolving. To kick off the season, we start with a big question at the heart of everything we do:&nbsp;what does it really mean to humanise data? Because right now, many organisations are still drowning in dashboards, chasing AI hype, and struggling to turn data into real decisions. Cameron shares why the most powerful AI will eventually become&nbsp;invisible, embedded seamlessly into how organisations operate. No fanfare. Just better decisions happening faster. Through this lens, they unpack the changing role of data professionals, the rise of the&nbsp;knowledge engineer, the risks boards should actually be worried about, and why&nbsp;active data governance&nbsp;is becoming non-negotiable. They also tackle the future of consulting, the billions still wasted rebuilding data platforms, and why putting the&nbsp;customer at the centre of every decision&nbsp;is still the north star.

Joe Waller- Chief Technology Officer at Finder

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