Hi. I'm Vanessa Beyor and this is my brother Jonah. We're two siblings who love to talk about our childhood and nostalgia and how shaped us into the people we are today, who are extraordinarily kind if I do say so myself. Welcome to How Did We Get Weird? So, Vanessa, do you remember your favorite restaurant growing up? Yes, Jonah, I believe you're talking about renowned steakhouse and more specifically Prime rib House Mountain Jack's. Yeah, yeah, you really loved steak when you were little. Yeah, I really did, and I could eat a lot of it. Uh, you know, it's just a little taught eating an entire um medium rare prime rib steak on a lot of birthdays and special occasions. I really loved it. Yeah, I remember not really liking it. It felt like kind it too stuffy for me. It's kind of like a fancy restaurant for like a little kid to be really into. Yes, it was very classy of me to have liked it when I was so small. I mean I do think looking back, Um, you know, we've looked into the history of of Mountain Jack's a little bit. It was a you know, it was a chain as I said, and they're about twenty one of them around the Midwest and California. And I think now, like looking back, it was probably about as fancy as like out back, but just it was like that level of niceness I think. I think it was lower based on like the commercials I've seen from like the nineties, right right, right right, And they did have the thing which um, we were reminded of when we were researching it, which is that they would bring a little salad bar to the side of your table and they would kind of make a little salad for you based on you know, what fixens and toppings you want it. Yeah, you can make your own salad. I guess that's fun for something. I don't remember that being really fun for me, but that could be fun for some kids. Yeah, Jonah, it could be. And it was so like we were saying, you know, it was one of my favorite places, and I think the one in Cleveland that we used to go to, which there are a few in Cleveland, I believe, but I think they've all closed. Yeah, I believe. We looked it up. There's one left. It's in Lefty Hate, Indiana, I think, but it's called Mountain Jackson has a similar menu, but I'm not sure it's like exactly affiliated. It seems like there's not a lot of information about this because no one really cares. Um. They don't even have a Wikipedia page, but they do some commercials on YouTube, so it definitely we're not making it up. In case that's what you're thinking, right, No, Mountain Jack's is making a complete Prime Rib dinner even more complete because not only do you get a special cut of Prime Rib, plus homemade soup banda salad made at your table, fresh baked bread, and more, you also get a special slice of Mountain High Mud Pond. There was a parent steakhouse company that closed, and thus was the undoing of Mountain Jack's. Well yeah, well that was. That was a great cap of Mountain Jack's. And we just want to say to anybody else out there who's bummed that Mountain Jack's clothes, we feel your pain, right, Jonah Right? So do you want to introduce today's guest? Yes, I'd love to, all right now, Our guest today is an extremely lovely, talented, kind, and hilarious actor, Emmy nominated writer and comedian who has worked on and started multiple shows and movies. Including inside Amy Schumer Extraordinary Smell, train Wreck, and as the character Bertie on Netflix's Love. She is also one of my closest friends and we stay at very late most nights, enabling each other's shopping addictions. Welcome, Claudia oh Doherty. Oh my god, that is such a deep talk sacred about our online shopping addiction. But it's fine. I mean, it's true. I don't mind tell everyone. I mean the thing is we return most things, that's true. You know, we're keeping the economy alive. Yes, we're making little loans to the economy. We're loaning money to the economy um at a quick pace, returning things quickly, and that is actually what keeps um the economy and America going, although we do sometimes like by things globally. Thank you for that lovely introduction. Oh my gosh, thank you for being here. We're so excited to have you. Now. Did you have a favorite restaurant growing up? Um? I did have a few favorite restaurants. Actually, when you were talking about Mountain Jack's, I was remembering that, Like, my favorite restaurant was a Chinese restaurant in Sydney called The Regal, which is closed down now. Sadly, but it was like gigantic and had many levels and had huge shandeliers, so I didn't think it was fancy, but it definitely had like the veneer of fanciness with like red carpet shandelier is mirrored ceilings so you could look at your a dinner from above. Lazy Susan's My sister would get so bored and she would often like lie down on the floor under the table, so bored. But I loved it. I think it's by the first place they had Chinese food. But we would probably go there like once every like three months, and it was like a big deal because also we have to go into the city, which was a solid ten minute drive from our house. Amazing, amazing. It is funny when you're that age all of those restaurants that they sort of have maybe sort of tacky things that are like quote unquote fancy things. When you're a kid, you're like, this is the yes, don't mind if I do. Also like the we didn't have a Mountain Jacks. But like eventually, when like American chains like Sizzler would come to Australia, to me, they seemed like so fancy because I'd heard of them on like American TV those and they were so far away because they were like out in the suburbs, so it would be like you would have to like but like the idea of like a salad bar was like so exotic and fancy, whereas like I was probably going to much nicer restaurants, but they didn't seem cool. It's weird as a kid, how excited you get about going to a chain restaurant. Yes, it's because like your parents don't want to go there. You've seen an ad for it on TV. It's worked, Yes, the ad makes it seem fancier, whereas now it sort of seems like if a restaurant is doing a commercial, probably not sign But I did love telling yet food advertised on TV was the food I wanted to eat. Yes, yes, you have brought such a funny um. We asked you to come in with a nostalgic, uh, something from your childhood to talk about today as we do. And you wanted to talk about a little commercial that aired in Australia while you were growing up. And the name of the commercial is she missed a dinner with Tom Cruise. Now, Claudia, would you like to elaborate. Well, first of all, you've called it a little commercial. Sorry, I'm is that's so wrong, because it was a cultural phenomenon, right right, right, right, right right. I do apologize a huge commercial. Huge, it's an iconic commercial. Okay, here we go. Okay, So well it's actually well yeah, I don't want to do the spoiler of what it's for anyway, So it is a commercial. So it was on TV in n and it's a young woman in an office and she's on the phone to a radio station and it kind of looks very like cozy and blown out in that kind of nest nest cafe. Is that what it's called in America, like the nineties adway, it's like there's so much light, but you know, and she's on the phone to the radio station and they're like, you've won at dinner with Tom Cruise. You're gonna be picked up in a limousine and taken to a city restaurant. And she's like, oh my god. And all of her office worker friends are listening from the break room and they can't believe it. And then she's like, when is it, you know, like tonight She's like, I can't Mom's making Lamb. And then she goes home. She tells that her family she didn't she didn't go on the day with Tom Cruise because her mom was making LAMB. So it's an ad for It's an ad for Lamb. And then the dad doesn't. The dad says something like, well, can it you can see Tom Cruise any night. Yes, she doesn't have any remorse about it. She's like they all know she made the right decision. She should have said no to Tom and yes to the roast Land. But here's what was like what made it like really sort of like matter and confusing because it was like this gigantic ad was that the woman, the girl who played because she was very young at the time, who played the young woman who won the competition was Naomi Watts and Nicole Kidman got together with Tom Cruise in and the sad was in nine and Naomi what was was Nicole Kidman's best friend, which like everyone in Australia was like deeply aware of and like the Nicaule Kidman thing, everyone was aware of that. So it's like, I guess it was like playing into the idea that like Tom Cruise, like Australian girls, maybe like it was like, well, if he would date Nicole Kidman, why wouldn't you date any old chump from the radio and so so it was like it was very confused because also I was a kid was sort of confusing because it was like is this real? Because like talking about Tom an ad was very confusing. How often was this commercial on? Was it on a lot? A lot? It was like the biggest at in the country. Wow, and lamb sales went through the roots. Really, I have no idea. Probably I bet they did. I think he did. I think Australia loves lamb generally. It's like a big meat for that country. My got it, got it, got it, got it. Yes, it's very lamb heavy diet. Yes, Wow, we explored a lot of lamb. Interesting. Very Let's let's um, let's play this commercial so we can give the audience just the audio a little sense of what it is and you can hear a young Naomi wants so we're going to winter at dinner with Tom Croduce competition stored a dinner with Tom Cruise. Yes, we'll take you to a top city restaurant, better romantic? Did it just you as Tonic? A monster lamb roast. I hope you realized about doing me Tom Cumskie. You can get up with him any not. Well, I wanted to say something. Okay, go ahead, Claudia. Yeah, you're not the only person who's confused about this commercial because we did a little research and I guess Jimmy Kimmel asked Naomi wats about this commercial. Oh my god, he why did he ruin my This was my idea to put it on your podeat. Yeah. It wasn't playing during his childhood, and it was, but he didn't see it because he didn't grow up in Australia. Kimmel is always stealing my bits. That's the whole thing, isn't it. I want to get it out there and I want him to stop. She said, I think I was a vegetarian at the time. It makes no sense. Well, that makes sense. She's acting. It's not or isn't real. Now, the part that's the least unbelievable is the fact that she was vegetarian. Pretend that's pretty that you could pretty standing act. You don't even see the lamb until her like, she never touches. She doesn't. She's no, I need the lamb in the if she was chewing on some lamb she's not, that would actually still make sense. It would be that she probably spit it out. But yeah, you don't hear a lot of radio concerts contest where it's like you're going on a date with an a less celebrity. That makes less sense. It's also knowing that she you know, did people know who she was at the time, Well, she was definitely in Brides of Christ, was this huge like mini series in Australia that she was the star of and it was like a c set in the sixties at like a Catholic school, which okay, so there's a lot of things that made all of this confusing to me because that was shot at the school my mom went to Whoa, And then it was even more all confused. It got even more confusing to me because then like two years later, I was in an ad with Naomi What what and I am a lamb? No, I'm not. No, it wasn't for lamb. It was because my dad is an artist and he was a designer. His designs were on the surf label called Mambo, which was like pretty popular when I was a kid, and they made these ads which were on TV like once, Like really it was not a huge ad at all, but very confusing for me as a child. There was like the Naomi What's ad? But she was really going out of date with some cruise because like that was confusing. And then I was an ad in an ad with Naomi What's where she played my mom? Now, I would love to see the adver that you were in? Is that something that we can I mean, it sounds like I'm lying because I've never seen it again, but death definitely there was an ad where she played my mom and she was wearing a Marge Simpson wig Claudia. We have to find what is it for? Canbia Producers, Canambo that's the name of the website. No, I've looked for it. I can't. You can't find it, Okay. In the ad, we were washing a car. My brother played my brother, my dad plays my dad. Wait, sister came to be in as well, but she was throwing up. She was so sick she couldn't be in it. But Naomi was just like this young, cool actress And I don't know why she was in this ad with us. This sounds like a dream you had, but I believe you. I believe you. I know it sounds like a lie. When you did the commercial where you did you ask her where you like? I'd love more details than the Lamb commercial. No, I was much too frightened. But I was like, am I famous because I'm in an ad? Well here, I am in a TV studio to fill in Jonah and the rest of our audience. Claudia's dad is a very like well, very popular artist. Yes, a well known artist in Astralia, and he was in a band that was like a very popular band and as well, Yes, Jonah I knew this band. I doubt I feel like he wouldn't no offense, I was doing some research. I didn't know of them, but they seemed like a cool band. Their biggest song over here was it was There was a song on the Crocodile Dondee sound called Live It Up. Yeah, and that was like a big hit in the UK anyway, So they were like a big band. The band is called Mental as Anything. Okay, okay, okay, got it? Yeah? But yes, so that that was like I was always confused about whether I was famous because I guess we were like adjacent to fame sometimes. So I was like, am I a celebrity and then I'd be in an ad with they whats I was on cover of a magazine once? I know it sounds like pat, what were you? What is the magazine? Now? I was on the cover of a magazine? Cool? I think it was Good Housekeeping. Wasn't like a story on your dad and you? Yeah, there was an article about um children wanting to dress how they wanted and like parents being annoyed by how they wanted to be dressed. And I only wanted to wear party dresses, pink dresses. I was shockingly similar, Claudia was I assume your dad the reason that he was featured in this articles because he was probably cool about it. Am I right or wrong? What do you He was cool? He was cool about me dressing like a princess. Oh, he didn't care how That's what I mean. He couldn't have cared less how I dressed. But obviously, like I think it was like they needed some famous person to like be on the cover, and I probably was like, I'll do it. I want to do it. Let's do it. Hate Clara, if your dad was on the cover of Good Housekeeping and you were too, I hate to break it to you you're not celebrity adjacent. Okay, your celebs. It's two little celebs, That's what I thought. But then it was like then nothing else would happen obviously because why would it. And I was because I was, you know, five or six years old at a child. I was not working. I wasn't. I mean, Vanessa, there was a Tiara. I remember, like sitting getting getting like I guess my hair done for this magazine to cover. There was like a tr on the day and I was like, everything's working out just as I expected. What were some other times that, like you experienced, like things with your dad that made you feel like you were a celebrity. I remember, Um, he would get I guess he would get invited to premiere is and I would if I saw the invitation, I'd be like, we have to go. And so we did go to the premier of the wedding Singer and like Planet Hollywood had just come to Australia and the after party was at Planet Hollywood and Adam Sandler and Drew Barrymore were there and I didn't get to meet them, but I stood near it. Wow. I think when you're a kid like you fall for all of it. You know, you you you feed right into all of the things. It's like the same as going to that Chinese restaurant and thinking because it had a red carpet and chandeliers, that it was the fanciest place on earth. Exactly. Maybe it was. It was such a good restaurant. So is Mountain Jack's. I've got to say, well, we're going to take a quick commercial break, but we'll be right back with Claudia Doherty. Well we are back from commercial and here we are with Claudio Doherty, so appearing you know in that photo shoot, you have become a comedian and an actor and and all things brilliant. And but you've become like a performer, actor, comedian, writer, and your sister Lucy is an artist. It's true. Well you're both artists, thank you. But yeah, she is an artist that uses a pen. She actually uses like pastels and pain. She's a very talented artist. Tonight's very good. How do you think that that time affected her, Like, do you think she was enjoying it more because she think she just didn't have the level of like sort of psychotic awareness I had where I was like sort of like keeping track of everything, being like does this man famous? I think she just wanted to have like a photo with someone who had like brushed her hair right, right, she looks great in these photos. She she has like really sick long hair and she looks really beautiful. And I they have like put my I look really funny in the photos, really funny. They're just like put my hair on top of my head, and I looked so sad. I put some makeup on me, but like, you know, it looks really I look really uncomfortable. Well don't you not to take it out of your childhood, but don't you even feel like now like when you've like when you were first starting out, like working in this business, Like I just be like I would let hair and make up people do whatever they wanted, and then I'd be like, once it gets to the photo, it'll look good. And then I would get to see the photo that they were using and it looked bad. Yeah, Like I did this the first time I ever did a magazine, like a shoot for a magazine. I did this one page thing in this magazine, like I think it was my first season on SNL and they did such a crazy thing with my hair where they like really straightened it. It was like sort of covering one of my eyes. And in my mind, I was like, this is professional hair person. They know what they're doing. I'm gonna look incredible. And then I saw the picture and I was like, oh, this didn't change from when I didn't like it in the mirror to when they took a photograph of it. Like, I don't know. It's like almost a little kid thing where you you feel so like out of your elements. You're just like whatever you guys think. I continue to be like so bad at asking for like what I want or what might make me feel comfortable or look better. When I was like first doing like live shows when I when I first started doing comedy and I would do like festival shows. I remember I was in the newspaper and I was getting my photo taken and the photographer tried to get me to stand in the bin. He was like, can you get in that trash can? It was like a public trash can. We were outside, We're in a park, and he was like, wouldn't it be funny because it's like a funny show, like you're coming out of the trash can, And I was like no. He was really annoyed with yes, that's wild that you just thought of that and it was like, you'll do it right and you're like no, and he was like I can't. It's good you stuck up for yourself. I think that's admirable to be cool that I didn't get in the trash? Can I'm bad? And just to circle back a little bit, yes, as far as as lamb as a food goes, like, is there like is that something you ate a lot as a family, as like a kid, like is there a specific way you prepare it? Because it's it seems like such a vague thing, like like it seems like there's so many ways you can make lamb. Well, a ross lamb is like a fairly classic Australian but i'd say also British New Zealand loves lamb as well. But you guys don't care much about lamb in America, do you. You don't see it a lot of menus here. It's maybe once in a while, but yeah, at the place is that we were eating growing up for sure, not Mountain Jack's. We die for a lamb in Australia and it's generally you do a roast leg of lamb as a classic Sunday dinner. Got it? And to be clear of what lamb is, I know what a lamb is. Our lamb? Baby sheep. You've hit the nail right on the hill. That's exactly what labs up. Do people eat sheep? That's called mutton when it's a food, right um? And people don't like it mutton dressed as lamb. No thanks, You would prefer a lamb. And do you know what age constitutes still being a lamb? I don't, And it's probably something like chilling lee young like, it's probably like after three weeks it's mutton and it's trash. Well what is you know? I loved Mountain Jack's and I love Prime Rib when I was at all as you talked about. But then when I was at overnight camp when I was about twelve years old, this one girl in our cabin was a pesketarian. For those of you who don't know, that means you only eat sea food and fish. And I became a pesketarian until I was like thirty one, So for like twenty years of my life, I stopped eating steak. And I actually think in some ways, I think it was like a lucky thing because I liked steak so much and could eat so much of it when I was so little that I might have like given myself some kind of cholesterol issue had I not taken a little break. No, I'm sure it's for the best, and no one should really steak all lamb. Oh my god. I just thought about it. Remember how Oprah got in trouble because she said she didn't want to eat because of the yes. So I was like, am I going to get sued by like all mate for saying no one should eat? Mete, we can take it out. I actually just want to say, if it was what happened, to leave it in. I'm not scared, and let me make some headlines, I think. So I want to plase as much controversy as possible on this podcast. I mean this podcast. Yeah, I think this is gonna be hot button. Yeah. We want to make like a really controversial kind of pad, quite an edgy. This is the edgiest pod of pods because people come out and they say, you know, I don't let me cut back on mate, I said it, but you know, I because I didn't eat meat for twenty years of my life and then all of a sudden when I started eating meat again I was a full adult, I sort of have this weird thing with meat. We're the only kinds of meat I like, our kinds of meat that I ate when I was a kid. So like, to me, I like steaks still, I don't need a lot, okay, but I do sometimes. I like hamburgers. I loved of turkey sandwiches to meet. When I started eating meat and poultry again, to me, I was like, turkey sandwiches, these are out of this world. And I don't mean like turkey off the bone kind of a thing. I mean like Deli turkey, like very thinly sliced Deli turkey. I'm like, um, yes, please, and and basically that's it. And meatballs and like all other meat, like rabbit and stuff like that. I'm like, no, thanks, Well, rabbit is really hard to make delish, I would say, And like then you know, just rabbit obviously, it's just because it's like you ate it more really, but like it's just like sort of confronting being like being like this is a rabbit bone, right, and like how far is a rabbit from a rat? They've both got too big front taste. Think about that we are going to get in so much trouble with Peter for this. No, I think Peter will be glad. Peter will be happy. We're putting out foot down and saying everyone has to star eating so much rabbit right right, because it's one step away from you eating rat. You've dumb exactly exactly, Oh my god, by, but no more rabbit. I'll stand by that. Incredible. I didn't have a good rabbit past the recently in Sydney, unfortunately. Lockdown, just lockdown, amazing. It was a rabbit rad go but it would have worked with almost any other mate. Incredible. I love that. Okay, we're gonna go to a quick commercial break and then we'll be right back with Claudia, Oh Doherty and a game. Okay, we're back now, Claudia. We'd like to play a game with you that we call back to the Present children. Well, you've got to go back to the present. I don't think I've ever seen any of the Back to the Future films all the way through. I've only seen parts of all of them. Really. Yeah, So anyways, in this game, it's really more it's a kind of a segment and we each get to say something that from our childhood that we wish would come back, and so we want to give you a little time to think, so we will go first. Okay, just remember there's no wrong answers, um and whatever you say. Our producers will try and research it while you're talking about it, so we can give you some some data on it. Okay. So, Jonah, would you like to go first with your pick for back to the Present? Yes, So my pick, Claudia. I don't know if you're a big fan of Taco Bell. I'm not because I'm not familiar with it. I know what it is that wasn't really as much of a thing in Australia. No, I think it's there now, but it was a much later arrival. Okay, well this is kind of figures into what we've been talking about. Um, you know, I was vegetarian for a long time, sort of high school and college and stuff, and so I got I just want to stop short and say that when I first became a vegetarian, were not a vegetarian and used to like cleanly eat meat in front of me at the dinner table. Go ahead, Okay, yeah, I mean that sounds right. I mean I was vegetarian probably from the time I was like seventeen to like seven or something. Yeah, but when I was vegetarian, I was eating a ton of Taco bell and they had this thing called the seven layer burrito, which had tomatoes, ree fried beans, seasoned rice, three cheese, blend low fats, our cream, guacamole, and lettuce um which sounds you know it's but you know, everything was like squeezed out of like a weird container. But it was like my favorite thing, and I've gotten it in recent years and it was discontinued just in Yeah, so you're not going far back. I would know. I was near a Taco bell and I was going to get one, and then it wasn't on the menu, and then I looked it up, um, because I hadn't been to Taco Bella in a while, and I guess you can customize a bean burrito and get it. But they discontinued all of this kind of vegetarian stuff recently, descending a message, Yeah, I wouldn't be We're surprised if the LAMB Lobby is responsible. I think it could. It could be the LAMB Lobby. And then I guess, you know, um, lend touring who's the executive director of the American Vegetation Association, says UM, who I think is on Taco Bell's payroll, said vegetation or vegetarian vegetarian. Um. He said, there remains, there continues to remain an excellent vegetarian selection and vegetarian combination options are still available. But it's like they got rid of all this vegetarian stuff. I think because like they want to have like the least amount of ingredients possible just streamlined. So yeah, I think, Um, I think they should bring it back because I also feel like all these fast food places are getting all this fake meat now, like the impossible stuff. Like everyone's into that, Like people want more vegetarian options and Taco Bell seems to be doing the opposite. So that is a very weird roots. I agree, it's a weird move, and I feel like someone had to say it, and I hope that they're listening to this. Well here you go again, making this the edgiestud around. So edgy, I mean, I will say it says that Um, both the company and outside analysts who you know you got you gotta trust these outside analysts and an um that the restaurant is likely to expand its plant based meat options in the near future, so that suggests the latest menu changes are only a temporary setback for vegetarians and vegans, who could be getting better items soon. Although I will say, as someone who used to be a vegetarian before it was cool to sub out fake meat. Sometimes as a vegetarian, you just want vegetarian stuff. You don't want to have a meat substitute in there. I think that's true. Yeah, because sometimes fake mate. It's like, I don't don't hand it, like, don't condescend to me. How dare you to pretend I'm eating mate? Yeah, I don't. I don't. Yeah, I'm not. I like being a vegetarian because I don't want to eat meat. Stop trying to make me feel like you know, right, Claudia exactly, Okay, yeah, yeah. So that's that's my that's my back to the president, and maybe they'll bring it back. I mean yeah, I mean it's something you remember, probably a lot of people have been eating it for so many years. And it's funny that we live in a time where you can probably like get an online petition going, and I mean, I don't even I don't feel remotely worried that you won't be able to get it back if you want it. We there was I think it was was it Jonah change dot org we were talking about they had a petition to bring back or or some kind of something, Yeah, that we had talked about. We were kind of like, we don't think that's really what change dot org it's supposed to be. But that's the main change I want to say. Yeah, I mean, in reality, I probably would eat this like once a year, So not that big of a deal to me. But it's sort of why did you say it? Well, I mean, I just it's not the point of the game. Yeah, No, I mean, I just I don't. I mean, to be totally honest, I don't live really near a Taco Bellum. Okay, so yeah, so it's sort of like, but maybe I would move near one at some point. Okay. That's a huge and that and there it is. Yeah, that's what we needed to Yeah. Yeah, So Vanessa, what is your pick for back to the present? Well, my pick for back to the present is the nineties sitcom Wings Um, Claudia, Are you familiar with Wings? Wings is an American sitcom television series that ran for eight seasons on NBC from seven. It takes place at a fictional airport called tom Never's Field Airport, a small two airline airport in Nantucket, Massachusetts, and it starred Tim Dally and Stephen Webber. So it was it was um a really incredible cast. Um. They played brothers, UM and pilots and Um. Crystal Bernard played Helen. There were a lot of stars on the show. Thomas Hayden Church portrayed the mechanic Lowell ned himself, Yes, ned himself Yes. Tony Shalub was the taxi driver Antonio. From season three onward, um Amy Yasbeck played Helen's sister, Casey. You know, I was thinking Claudia before. Oh. Also, it was created and produced by these Cheers veterans, and it kind of existed in the same world as Cheers and Frasier, so like sometimes people from those shows would stop into the airport. Now, something that I thought of Claudia that was so weird. I didn't even think about this when I picked this for the show that you were going to be on. But do you remember that we were at a party on Sarah Silverman's roof and we met both Stephen Webber and Amy Yasbeck. Oh my god, isn't that crazy? It was probably like two and a half years ago. It was when I first moved here. Wow, we had we were in wings. Eventually we were basically in wings on that at that party. Isn't that so strange that we met them together? That is bizarre. We were at this party and Stephen, they were both there and they weren't. I don't think they were dating or anything, but and I never probably maybe they were. Actually I think I saw them frenching. Oh really, No, I didn't. Okay, I just wanted to get that room. But going. Did I get too excited about them term friendship with that characters in love on the show? I don't think so, because I think on this show, maybe their characters were in love on the show. Oh my god. It's so lame that I can't answer that for you, because it wasn't. Tim Dailey got married to his love interest as Crystal Bernard. I think I think actually they maybe were each other's love interest on the show, and then in real life we saw that. Isn't that the best to like when people from who are in a TV romantic relationship get together in real life? Even if it, probably they didn't absolutely do not do that. I remember seeing her as the mom and problem child as a kid and thinking, that's the most beautiful woman I've ever seen in my life. So beautiful. And you know what also is really crazy about that. Here's some more fun facts about Wings. You know, John Ritter played her husband on it, right, and then he and then they got married for real life. That's nice. And also he made a guest appearance on Wings as Stuart Davenport, the ex husband of Amy Yasbeck, and then three years after they were on Wings together they got married. And that's actually very beautiful. I loved it when people who are on something got together, and in this way that when Carrie Russell and matthy Race got together after being on The Americans, that really worked my world as well. Oh my god, if you I I truly that was the kind of thing that like, it made me so happy. It's so weird now into that you are as a kid, like I remember like feeling like okay, if like if Brenda and Dylan really dat and really, my god, like if Luke Perryan and Shannon Doherty if they became a real couple, I would flip out I just remember saying a magazine cover that said that, um, David d Kovney and Jillian Anderson like had had had slept together, and I was breathless. It's so funny how into that you get. And also, here's the other thing. I remember. The other thing when you when we were kids, was like, if you found out that an sounds so insane, but if you found out that an actor in real life smoked. It was the saddest thing for me and my friends. In fact, we had this binder where we would collect I think it was when we were in like fourth grade in Mrs Furber's class. Joe, I know you had her as your fourth grade teacher as well. Um, we were in Mrs Furber's class, and we had we were collecting nine O two A note cards, which were basically like baseball cards, but with the different They had a bunch of different ones for each each character. And we had this binder with the cards in it, and then on the back of it we wrote who do you think on nine o two and no smokes in real life and we all just wrote Brenda like that was the only person we could believe actually, but we had heard about them smoking in real life, and it was just the most heartbreaking things, like if they smoke in real life, they're probably bad people. I think the only people who didn't share this feeling of my friends were people whose parents smoked, because it was like they didn't make the same association. Yes, no, my I think mym I definitely there were cigarettes in my house, so I didn't have I knew is like bad bad bad, because obviously there was a lot of like maybea to make you think it was bad. But also it's interesting to me that you had such an anti Brenda mentality because for me, as someone whose last name is o Doity and as someone who has brown hair, Brenda was it because I was like, am I Brenda? She's main hair and her name is like li name. I mean, doesn't not again when you're another very confusing situation. A lot of confusing situations growing up. Yeah, well, you know. I also when I was right around that time, I think it might have been in third grade, as you know, And and and our friend Paul Rust was also a part of this club. But people who graduated in the year two thousand, there was this thing. I think it was maybe only in the Midwest, but it was this thing called um where it was this thing where in like third or fourth grade, you sign find this this thing that said you said you would never smoke, and it was and it was maybe like a Nancy rag, I don't know, I don't know. Anyways, you would sign this thing and it was a certificate that said you would never smoke ever in your life, and it was optional. And there was this one really smart kid in my class, so thoughtful, James Kung, and I remember he stood up in class and was like, I'm not going to sign this because I think when I'm a little bit older, I might want to experiment with cigarettes. A third grader like he was, so I remember he was just like he was like light years ahead of all of us anyways, So he didn't sign it, and I remember the teacher was like, that's your choice, that's okay, and then the rest of us all signed it. But I kept it. And one time I brought this somehow, I brought this up to Paul and Paul was like, oh, yeah, you were in the smoke Free Class of two thousand, which is what this initiative was called, which and I still to this day have never smoked a cigarette because of it, and I think probably me and actually James Kung guy who gave that speech, probably the only two people who haven't smoked cigarettes. Wait, have you asked him if he ever experimented with cigarettes? You know? I asked him if he remembered that story, and he didn't, and I actually, I don't know that I remember. I said, do you remember giving this like very moving speech in third grade? And he was like, I don't remember giving that speech. But I should have asked him if he ever smoked But he did remember. This is actually very sweet. He sent me the sweetest note on like some social media where he said, I remember one time I danced with you in class and I was so I had like the time of my life, Like I don't know why we're dancing and like slow dancing in class. That seems like where's the teacher? But but he said it was like the time of my life. I kind of want to find this message we had been and and read it. But um, but anyways, he doesn't remember giving that speech. I've asked him, but he was like, what are you talking about? Yeah, he probably doesn't remember a lot from third grade. I don't remember anything from their grade. I mean, I don't remember the dancing, although I'm sure I had a great time too, But I do remember him giving this powerful, moving speech. He sounds like a very profound person, very profound person. A couple other fun facts about Wings. If you guys are ready, So, why do you want it to come back so badly? Do you want it to be read bullshit? Well, here's the thing is, I would, I guess in some ways I would be pissed if it wasn't the original cast, you know, But I I just I think it was such a good show. Because even Jonah, when I said that I wanted to talk about it on this show, you were like, that was such a good show, and like, not that we didn't align on other shows, but it's like I feel like that was really a show for everyone. It was such like funny show, Like it wasn't specific in a way that like, you know, like everyone could have a lot of fun watching this airport watching Wings. And another fun fact about Wings is that, um, one time, so it's based so the so the airplane in the opening credits, it's this tiny airplane from this airline, Cape Air from their fleet, And so I had heard like when one time I flew Cape Air because I was doing like a stand up show at a college and it was me and I don't know if you guys know Nick Vaderat, but Nick Vaderat and I were both flying like from New York to I can't remember where we were flying to, but somewhere near near like a Nantucket ish type of town, and we had to take this tiny Cape Air airplane and people were like, this is the this is the airline that Wings is based on and stuff, and it was like, oh, so much fun. But then they were only going to be like seven people on the flight, and so to two interesting things happened. One was the woman who was like, you know, checking us all in, was like, who wants to be the co pilot? And this one woman just like raised her hand and was like, I'll be the co pilot. And it felt very unsafe because it was like a co pilot isn't just someone who's there. It's like it's not just like a fun title. It's like, if something should happen to the pilot, you need the co pilot. So that was the first thing that was kind of upsetting. And again, it's only like an hour long flight, but you still are quite scary to go in. Yeah, and you'd love someone who knew what they were doing in that seat. The second thing was they were like, you have to write down, you have to give us your weight. Uh so we can like distribute, you know, the plan. So I wrote down my weight, and yeah, I lied a little bit. Okay, I lied about my weight because you know, I think I would lie up. I would yeah, right, right, right right, because you don't wanna, you don't want because other people probably going going down. How much did you take out off your weight? I think I took off about fifteen pounds. I'll say, oh my god, I know, because I just wasn't really think. And then then they go there like they're like, okay, Vanessa, you're going to be sitting in the back of the plane because you're the lightest. Meanwhile, I'm doing stand up with this very funny comedian Nick vaderat who definitely weighed less than me. So I'm like, okay, So what's funny is that at no point was I like, oh, for the good of myself and the safety of everyone on this flight, I should probably come clean about my weight. I thought that's fine. So anyways, we took the flight. Everyone was safe, but UM, I'll never fly I'll never fly them again because UM no I would. I would fly them again, but I probably just wouldn't lie about my weight. And I acrotably asked that more than other people shouldn't fly with you. I guess that's the real lesson. I guess that's the real lesson. What do you think? What's your what would be your back to the present pick. I feel so strongly about this. It's another food one. It's saltan vinegar ruffles. Yeah, they were the best chips and I love a Sultan vinegar chip, but Solo many the ruffle was like the best ever balance of salt and vinegar to ever be found on a chip. And I also and they don't have them in America. When I moved to America, I checked if you had them here, but you don't have them. And in Australia they got rid of them. I don't think they have ruffles at all in Australia anymore. But Solomon ruffles were so good because I don't like kettle chips. Sorry, WHOA once again to Crunchy and Too Greasy. Sorry us the edgiest podcast out there. Now let me ask you this, was it the texture of the Ruffles that was like what you liked, or was it the specific ratio of salt and vinegar to chip that was It was both because it was they were never to vinegree whereas the Smith's which is a very big chip company in Australia, the mascot was the gobble Dog, which is like a little alien like alf that eats chips. Anyway, so we had we those are still those still exist and those are still a very good sort of vinegard chip that's not Kettle. I feel like Kettle dominates the potato chip market now, certainly in Australia, and so Smith's is still like sort of like a crinkle cut, pretty good textured chip. But the Ruffles ones were never to vinegary and there was like a little sweetness to their vinegar that made it the ultimate chip, the best chip, the best potato chip ever. I found it something on I petitions dot com. Yeah, and there's a hundred eighteen comments people have signed it. That's not many, not many no's. I think it's been up for quite a few years. Johan. Are you looking at the change dot or petition petitions and it says I've never even heard of petition me neither until right now. It says high petitions, your voice counts. I don't think it does. Friedo Lace as market research is to blame show us Freedo Lace as they sell salt and vinegar through other brands, not the same. Frieda Lay has an opportunity like no other ripple it. Well, you know those people should get together with um, these other people that made a petition on change dot org um that our producer has just sent us. Now a hundred and twenty people have signed this one. It says at two hundred two hundred signatures, this petition is more likely to be featured in recommendations. But let me just tell you what Nathan Headley, who started this petition and said, American consumers deserve the right to experience a proper salt and vinegar chip. The market is flooded with thin, flat and flavorless salton vinegar potato chips. I could free to lay in PepsiCo are American brands, and Ruffles is America's best potato chips. So I implore these companies to finally bring this amazing flavor of snack home and give us a chance to decide and then in all caps make salt and vinegar grade again, which is not used often enough as like a or afraid I couldn't agree with Claudie. When's the last time you had a Ruffles salton vinegar chip? Do you think I would? Probably like? They got rid of them like a long time ago. Guess what what they're in Canada now? They brought them to Canada. Book me a ticket normally only available on a limited time basis. Ruffles Canada confirmed the fan favorite flavor is back and this time they're back for good. And that was in two thousand nineteen they came back. Do you think that I'll be sent some for free because I'm on a podcast? Well yeah, I mean the thing is that's how it works. And the thing is, like you you have plugged them. They didn't ask you to, you know, and you really did make it seem like this was an incredible product that honestly gone too soon, gone to Jane's absolutely the best, the best told Miniga chip you can have okay that is and kettle chip suck. Sorry wow, I mean this is the kind of hard hitting, you know, controversial dish. The people come over to this podcast for so the meat industry after us, the kettle chip operations. Guess what, I don't care? Wow yeah yeah yeah incredible. Well who knows what will happen next week on this podcast? Well that was really fun, you guys. Thanks so much to Claudia. Thank you for joining us. Thank you so much for having me. It's been heaven on Earth to talk about all this stuff. And Claudia, is there is there is there? Where can people find you? Is this? Gosh? Well? Um, I you can find me on Instagram, Twitter, if you just look at my name, you'll find me. I love that. Yeah, it's incredible. Yeah, thanks so much Claudia for joining us and everyone for listening. If you enjoyed that, please subscribe to the podcast and keep it on out for next week's episode. How did you get in Weird Si A hum