How Did We Get Weird with Vanessa Bayer and Jonah BayerRemember Saved by the Bell? (with Cobie Smulders)
Fans of the Marvel Universe, "How I Met Your Mother" and Canada rejoice because this week we are joined by actress and all-around great person, Cobie Smulders! On this episode of the podcast, Vanessa discusses why one of the greatest nights of her life was spent watching THE BODYGUARD at Cobie and Taran's house, Cobie gives us the sweet details about the Tom Cruise holiday cake and Jonah recalls his teenage fascination with Steven Seagal. Even though Cobie grew up without cable television in a rural part of the Canadian outback, she did have access to a little show called SAVED BY THE BELL and we discuss how it informed Cobie's perception of the United States and teenage life in general. To bring things full circle, Cobie also recounts the time that she met Mark-Paul Gosselaar as an adult... and had a very different experience than Vanessa did. Finally we play a powerful round of CHANGE DOT DORK where we review petitions about a "How I Met Your Mother" reunion, bringing back chicken noodle soup at Tim Horton's and, finally, the three of us try to give a definitive answer of the age-old question: Is lasagna technically cake?
Hi.
I'm Vanessa Bayer and this is my brother Jonah.
We're two siblings who love to talk about our childhood in nostalgia and how it shaped us into the people we are today.
Who definitely stan our guest today if I do say so myself.
Welcome to how did We get Weird?
Okay, so just before we get into our story, our guests made kind of like a little reaction face to this to me, saying we stan her. We've been trying to use a lot of gen Z lingo in our intro. Do you know what it means to stand someone?
Yeah, we're trying to keep it just relevant for a younger audience, and it sounds so natural coming from us, especially then afterwards always like do we know what this means? I think it it's like if you're a fan, but also it's related to the eminem song Stan Oh, is it annoy? I think maybe? I think it's just kind of a super fan or like.
Uh oh, there's that I thought, because.
Okay, I'm right, Olivia, Olivia, we're post gen Z. People might not even know about that song because it's like before they were born.
Yeah, it seems like a little bit of like the millennials or gen X kind of being like, you guys should use this word trust us or something like.
That, like, oh, it sounds like this other word, you know, so uh yeah, yeah, but I don't know. I don't know, to be honest though, I don't know exactly what it means. But I think it's we mean it in a complimentary way, but not that's not what we mean it as a fan. Yeah.
Well, I guess to keep going.
Then I'll get into this story that does actually involve our guests today. And I just want to say, Jonah, you know your sis. I love a sleepover party that involves snacks and movies. Sure, and I had one of the best nights of my life with this guest. I was lucky enough to get to sleep at her and her husband Teren's house. They have a beautiful guest room with a full and complete bathroom. Wow.
And I made a mess up.
I'm kidding, just kidding, Okay, So, and here's what we did. I think we made a delicious dinner if I recalled correctly, and then oh, I.
Know, we ordered in dinner from John and Vinnie's. It was delicious.
We got pasta, everything you could want in a delicious dinner. We definitely stand John and Vinnie's, okay. And then we watched a movie that I stand, which is The Bodyguard, which I had never I can't remember if our guest or her husband one of them had maybe never seen it.
Taren had never seen it.
I think our guest and I had both seen it, but it had been a minute.
And then get this.
We're falling asleep, We're eating snacks, We're having the time of our lives. Our guest today makes us cookies. Was it during the movie? Okay, at some point we're eating cookies. These cookies are the size of your hand. They're huge cookies, delicious.
Okay.
I think it's fair to say that I ate the most of the most cookies of anyone, because pretty sure Taren was asleep. Our guest doesn't maybe as hard at sweets as I do, although.
You can see.
But it was so fun, and I always reference whenever I see either of them. You know, when's the next time I'm coming over, which is absolutely what you want from her friend, someone who's always kind of inviting themselves over and making jokes about it, but then also being like, but tell me the date.
I'll write it down well without much ado, should we guess?
Yeah?
I feel like you tear communicating visually and be good and their guests can speak. That might be nice.
Okay.
Our guest today is a friend, an incredible mom, and an extremely talented actor that you may know from her role as Robin and How I Met Your Mother Maria Hill and the Avengers films Ever Heard of Them, as well as incredible roles and a billion other films and TV shows such as Friends from College and Impeachment American Crime Story.
Please welcome our friend, Kobe smolders.
Hi, you guess?
Hey, Kobe, how's it going?
I'm doing so good.
I am also an extreme and excessive fan of you as well. Oh, which is what stan means. But I did not know that. I've seen that printed, but I didn't know what that meant.
Yeah, yeah, I.
Assumed something along those lines. But yeah, that's what it means.
And like I think a lot of gen Z people say it. They say the thing that they like, and then they say, we stand You.
Know what I mean? Okay, Vanessa, can you give us an example?
Yeah?
Oh my gosh, last night's episode of Barry I stand Wow?
Is that I stand for?
It, Yeah, exactly, Like, so it's like a verb kind of like I'm standing.
Yeah, I keep wanting to make it longer, and I don't think you should.
Yeah, you're probably right. The whole point is for these words of be really short.
Yeah, I think it doesn't sound as effective if you go, I stand that television show.
Yeah, like, I think you just got How can.
You use it and look and sound cool? Because the way we're doing it is not like this is the opposite not sounding Okay, Okay.
This is news to me. I'm just kidding.
Okay, Vanessa, I like Billie Eilish, Jonah, do you like Billy Eilish?
I stand that for sure, my friend and sister.
But when you say that, you're referring to Billie Eilish as that.
I'm saying the idea of stanning, of being a stan of I'm not exactly. I'm getting a little confused. So that's a good point. You could say.
Wait, ask me if I like Billy Eilish, So what do you think of Billie Eilish. I'm a stan yeah, my brother and friend. Yeah, I'll give it a stan Kobe. You've heard that new Post Malone tune.
Yeah, I stand for it.
Yeah, I'm standing, I'm I'm stam for it.
Stan, I am Stan, I am you could.
That's really good.
That's really good.
I think we got it. I think we told you. It's definitely not out of touch.
If any gen zs want to get in touch and kind of tell their friends to listen, let us.
Hop on TikTok, spread it on tick. We're not on TikTok but no.
But we stan it.
Stand the TikTok, stand in the TikTok.
Well, Kobe, We're so excited to have you here today.
Do you remember the night that I was just describing that I slept over and watched The Bodyguard one of.
The greatest nights of my life.
And it was so pleasant, mainly because it was you and I love you and I love spending any time with you. But it was also like, you know, COVID was still.
Kind of it was kind of around still, but people, we were kind of easing up a bit, so it felt a little risky, yes, And it was also really exciting because I don't think that we.
Had ever just like a like a like a friendly little drop in, you know, like I'm just going to come by, Hey, what are you guys doing Friday Night?
Can I crash?
It just wasn't.
Happening someone who has her own house in the same city.
Nor does it really happen in your forties anymore?
You know, it's right, right, too fair?
I think we were still in our thirties at that point.
That's true, that is true. Let's give that to us. But it was lovely and Tara had definitely not seen it, and I had seen it, and then I didn't remember it the same, but it was still entertaining. Yes, and you know when he's a beautiful, beautiful actors, beautiful singer, like what else could you ask for?
Yeah, I've never seen it. I don't think I remember the song, and I know it's Kevin Costner plays her bodyguard. And do they have a relationship? Is that?
Oh?
I mean that is that's the movie?
Got it?
It is a big will they won't they got it? Let's just say he gets the job done on multiple levels.
Okay, Okay, Yeah, I don't think I ever saw it. I think around that age I was watching a lot of Steven Siegall type stuff and probably the Bodyguard was not not on my on my list unless yeah, a lot with fight sequences. Although Kevin's Kevin Costner is a bodyguard. I'm sure there's some action there.
There's some adventure for sure.
Yeah, there's like there's a definite threat. I think she's got like a serious stalker if I remember correctly, And so they like bring in Kevin Causer to be like she's got this like serious.
Like not good stand.
Yes, yeah, there is a not good bad stand, a bad stand.
And you know, but how is this still a passion of yours?
Jonah the.
Because you know, I've I.
Unfortunately have only spent a few you know, I've met you a few times, and I think you're a delight.
But it is not the first thing that comes.
To mind when I yeah about you.
It's not really something I'm still up on, to be honest. But when I was a teenager, was like obsessed with Stephen Sigall. I took taekwondo less.
When you were I would say, middle schooler. I feel like by the time you were a teenager.
Yeah, yeah, I would say like that. But I kind of just like the early Siagall stuff like above the law marked for death, hard to kill, out for justice. And then then I kind of fell off a little, but I had all of them my VHS. I was into vandam Cigal all that would Did you ever did you ever watch that stuff growing up?
No?
And even if you, as you say it, up for Justice, I want to ask if that was a real title, because that was yep. I just hope at some point in the movie he goes like, well, I love for justice.
Oh no for justice, Oh out for justice, outer, up for justice, out for justice.
I'm hoping it's up for justice.
The other the last one that I felt was good was Under Siege, which is the one where he's on a boat like a cruise ship. And then they didn't undersiage to where he's on a train, and that was kind of where they to me. They started to go a little bit downhill.
And then of course there's the reality show that you, you and I watched when you were visiting me once.
Yeah, well he's a cop law man, Steven segall present. Yeah he's yeah. And there's also the time that I think I've talked about on here where I saw Steven Seagull's blues band play at the House of Blues called he was called the what a Savant?
I had no idea he's a cop, he's a musician, he's an actor, he stuntman.
And I think he's like friends with Putin or something. Maybe I think he's like, oh cool, cool, yeah, okay, yeah, yeah.
I think he's famously and I wasn't there then, unfortunately, but I think he's famously yeah, producer Olivia saying he's a Putin stand anyway, I think he famously was one of the worst hosts ever to be on snow, like one of the most hated, hardest to work with hosts of all time. Now I don't know if he ever hosted SNL, but I've heard separately that John Claude Van Dam really nice guy. And I think I asked a stunt man about it once. I was like, have you worked with Vandam? He's like, great guy, Wow.
First thing he says, that's great.
Yeah.
I think he's he was very like I believe well, he seems like he doesn't take himself super seriously seriously. And Koby, you've been in like a lot of like actual action films, unlike me just kind of watching them. Is that fun for you to like, do you do any of your own stunts ever or anything like jump off like a building or anything.
Yeah, I mean in the Marvel films because I play sort of I played a human character who's like power is bluetooth activation, like it's not. She doesn't get a lot of the fun action stuff. I get to do a little bit on them. But I did a movie with Tom Cruise called Jack Reacher Never Go Back, and in that that was probably the.
Most action I've seen.
Yes, And I think what we all know and understand about mister TC is he's very serious about the stunts and the action. So we've trained for like three months beforehand. I was in the best shape of my life. I remember you remember my I remember you were training all the time? Yes, yes, yes, yes, I was like, I will never it will never be this good because I will never.
Be working out four to five hours a day like it was just it was.
Were there are still scenes where you guys were like fighting on like a roof or something, right, was it? Yeah?
Yes, yes there was.
So we shot the film in New Orleans, so we had some actual scenes within the quarter that we're on rooftops and running around the streets and stuff. But then we rebuilt some of the homes on studio and did some like wire work there, which is cool.
That's amazing, super fun.
Now you know, Kobe, what I want to know about?
Oh, go ahead, Jonah, I was going to make a really bad joke. I'll make my joke speaking of your Avengers character. Bluetooth. That's a superpower i'd want. You've ever seen me try to connect to my headphones? You know it takes me like about twenty minutes. Where's that superpower? Right?
Okay, I go Could I get a blue toothed chip in my head and then I'll connect work quick or whatever.
Yeah, I was trying to add to it.
What do I want to know about?
In Sorry, Jonah, And you don't have to answer this, although it is public knowledge that this exists.
Oh oh the.
Tom Cruise cake. Now, I've seen it happen before that every is it? Every holiday season? Tom Cruise sends out this white chocolate coconut cake from this bakery car Done that I wandered into with my friend Jenny one day and they acted like we were there for the cake, and we were like, we're just going to get some cupcakes, and we were like, what's the best flavor? And they were like, the white chocolate coconut You know about it, right, And we were like, no, we'll just get like a.
Dozen of whatever.
And then we realized once we left that that is the bakery that makes the Tom Cruise cake. And if you go to their website, they lean on it heavily. But do you I know that you were at one point receiving the Tom Cruise cakes.
You still get them?
I still do. I actually still have a slice frozen in my freezer, Vanessa, and I don't know how long that is edible for.
No matter what Ali did the next.
Time you come over. Because it's a delicious cake.
It's a delicious it's very tasty, white chocolate cocoadt like you said, but it's.
Like, you know, it's like a cake, so you're like a family of four.
You really got to like get into that. So I do have a piece still frozen.
I'll eat it no matter how long it's been there.
Which I'll put your name on it. I'll put your name on it. But it's very delicious, very delicious.
And he sends his cake to like everybody that he feels like had a good working relationship with, worked with and do you get it right?
I'm going to say yes, we think we think.
I'm going to say, hard yet, do you get it over the holidays?
It's just on a Rollo dex. It's not just a list that is updated.
It is no no, no, no no.
You're on that list because he likes you. Okay, you don't just make it on that list. I'm going to say, and.
You get it over the holidays, right, I.
Want to say it's like anticipated like a week and a half before Christmas.
Because this is interesting.
Somebody was just debating me about this and I can't remember who it was, but they were like, pretty sure Tom Cruise sends the Tom Cruise cake out for people's birthdays, And I said, I don't think that's right. A because it would be so much to keep track of to be sending the cake around different times of year, and B because I think doan like that's how that bakery and I don't know if I'm pronouncing it correctly, that's how they like they make so much money over the holidays because they know they're going to get I mean, I don't even know how many cake orders two hundred.
Like five, like you choose five of his best friends.
Well, yeah, and you've remained. That's so cool.
All makes sense. It all makes sense. No, I mean I think it's Yeah, I think you sends out a lot. I remember, you know, going on their website too, and I didn't realize that it was, you know, something that they just you can get any you can get any time.
Oh yeah, right, get any of it for a party. Yeah.
So I think it's but I think it's just a holiday, a holiday bundle of love.
Yeah, for those of us who are lucky.
Yeah, and do you think whatever address, like, when you get it next year, you can like send a thank you note to the address that it came from for Tom's people and say Vanessa would love a cake, thank you, And also.
Vanessa would also first of all, thank you. First, first of all, thank you.
I love the cake. I love it. You know who hope everyone is doing.
I love it so much that I've talked about it on this amazing podcast. Yeah, you should check it out.
And Vanessa wants a cake.
You know who loves free cake, My friend Vanessa.
What I know about Vanessa is she likes she likes free stuff. I do know this is about Vanessa.
I don't know why I counted the three on my fingers.
I was going to be.
I was thinking like cake, cookies, shoes, any of it.
I love it.
Yeah, okay, well, thank you for answering that.
COVID you get any other good kind of dessert sent you over throughout the year? Great question at the year.
There is a gingerbread house company. I believe it's in Solving, and I get some of those every year. And it's very sweet because I put your name on the house and then they put howver members of how many members of your family there are the kind of gingerbread people out front? So that's that's a nice little edible tree.
Does it come put together or do you put it together? It's ready to go, it's ready to go.
It's it's it's it's a talking piece, you know.
And then and then it's so, hey, we look at this. They can be very big, built in a very large size.
But how big we talking?
Okay, I think we're like, you know, if we're looking at a box size, you know, a square. Yeah, we're looking at I want to say, like thirty by thirty inches.
Whoa, that's pretty big.
And then we're looking at maybe forty fifty inches high, like it's a it's a thing.
Whoa yeah?
And if they're listening right now, I would love one. But that's and do you but who cares about that? But also but I do mean it? But do you eat it? Or do you just let is it? It's obviously as you said, it's a talking piece.
But ah we yeah, it gets picked off, like there's like little gummies on it and there's a little like those those butter mints, you know those you pick those off, So it gets picked it gets picked apart. I don't think that that gingerbread is is you know.
The freshest sure, sure, sure crackers So you're not taking off a door and you're not you're.
Not munched on a door.
No, no, but you leave.
One of those ginger people, you'll eat one of the ginger people. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, fresher freshir.
Yeah, thank you for answering that, because as soon as I asked that question.
So glad to No, I'm so glad. I'm I'm so glad to be finally asked that question because I've just had it at the ready for decades, for.
Decades, I know. Yeah, you're like, no one's asking me about what desserts ie getting mail?
Yeah, it's probably when that's beautiful gingerbread house is sitting in your house.
You're like, I wish I could tell this to the people a little.
Wish someone knew.
I wish everyone knew. I wish everyone knew.
I wish everyone saw what I see.
You know, Yeah, I'd like for this to be a talking piece not just in my house, but outside of my house.
And the talking piece for America maybe.
Yeah, yes, yes, and Canada and Canada that's right.
And for Canada, of course, and for Canada, and to our Canadian listeners, thank.
You, we love you, thank you so much.
It is a funny thing because I'm a longtime listener of your podcast, and it is funny listening to this podcast because there are so many things that I don't know about because I oh in Canada, I grew up in Canada. And also my mom was like, we weren't allowed television in our house, and we weren't allowed to buy anything. Really, we didn't have a lot of new stuff.
Wow, can I ask you about a few things that just come to mind that I'm curious that in Canada popples, No, you didn't have popples?
Did you have skip It?
I'm going to guess what a skip it is? Is it the thing with the like the hoop around your ankle and then you jump? Okay, yes, we did have that.
You did have skippets, Okay.
But I feel like it might have had a different name.
Could a different name? Got it?
Because sometimes they do that up there is they'll take a product and then they'll kind of rebrandon. I don't know it's the same company, but they'll just like make it a little different for a distribution up there.
I don't know.
Why did you have gushers?
I know what they are, but no, we didn't have them.
Oh my gosh, it sounds like you really did already hear things out.
Yeah, isn't it horrific? We did have free healthcare.
Right, yes, yeah's which we love, which which I actually stand.
I stand free healthcare for sure.
That's so interesting that so many of those things that we talk about you didn't have.
I mean, it comes up with a you know, in my marriage a lot, you know, because Darren is such elector, a man, creative, a collector, and a lover of pop culture, yes, and the lover of film and TV and grew up watching a lot of TVs. So there are moments where I'm just like, I don't know, I don't know what that is. I don't know what that references.
What a perfect freaking segue.
We're going to take a quick commercial break and then we're going to dig into some of that TV that you did have but sounded it differently than we did in this country.
And we'll be right back, Kobe Smaller.
So, Kobe, we're back. What were some of the TV shows that you kind of grew up watching in Canada that were available in Canada, because obviously there's so much legendary comedy also from Canada.
So again I wasn't we didn't have cable. We had maybe Channel three, Channel four, and I think those were the CBC up in Kettis. So it was a lot of just like news. But what I did have was the Hobbit animated VHS tape, which I watched a lot of. Yeah, and then when I got older, so like childhood, not a ton of cartoons. But keep in mind, I also, like come from a divorced family, so like every other weekend was with my dad's just kind of watching whatever we wanted to watch a little more, yeah, a little more lenient on the screen time, and you know in general. So I got into watching you know, when I was like thirteen fourteen, had a little bit more freedom. I think. I don't know if my mom just like started paying the cable bill or what yea, what.
That was all about.
But yeah, and I got there was there was a couple but the one that I would like to talk about today, which was very informative and just my education of the United States in general and how I imagined it was across the country. Here was Saved by the Bell. Yes, course, I thought it was California Paradise. I thought that every boy was extremely handsome or quirky, right right right, you know, or you know, And because you have to understand, like the high school system is very different in Canada too, rit Like we don't have middle school. High school is essentially the eighth grade through twelfth grade.
And what is the school below that is?
How does that?
It's just elementary so it would just go first grade to seventh grade.
Okay, wow, okay.
Yeah, so you're I mean, our schools are just much smaller. Like I only had, you know, I was I went to a public school.
Shout out to Lord being secondary to the couple of people who are listening in Vanka. But you know, we had like one hundred kids in our graduating class, like and that was that was a big school.
Like, that was a large school.
So the idea of getting away from the State by the Bell, like the idea of like cheerleaders was an existent, right, which they were. Sorry kel Kapowski was very much into cheerleading, like very like head cheerleader, I think. So they did have cheerleaders, but like the cliques, the structure that the way that like the kids kind of operated was just it was different. Yeah, And so just watching Saved by the Bell was so wonderfully it was like wonderfully eighties. And I think it was the nineties, right, like because I was a nice like yeah I was, I was, you know.
Started in eighty nine, I think, but yeah, yeah, yeah.
So it was kind of not in it was becoming nineties, but this was this nostalgic show in the nineties that was that was much more eighties, certainly just in terms of the look and the costuming. But I was just enamored by this California surfer beachside town. Like I vividly remembered the episode where the school, which I think might be Malibu High. I think it might be like in the Boo. The episode was about them, like this big.
Oil corporation came into the school.
And they were like, guys, we we want to get you a new gym, we want to get you new science classrooms. We want to and they were like, you know, building all this stuff. And then of course Zach Morris, because he's the frickin' best, showed up at the presentation. He's like, where's the oil drills? And he starts putting oil drills on this presentation of this beautiful new campus that they're going to provide with the money that they're going to get from the oil that they.
Will be drilling and spread it all with oil.
I was like, oh, Sacamores, just take the take in. Yes, time out, time out. Zach Moors, you're the greatest. Yeah.
And there's also I feel like a section of that when they're like learning, they're like really on board for this new school that's going to be paid for by this oil company, and then all of a sudden, somehow it gets revealed to them that there's like a duck that's covered in oil, and they're like, yes, sorry, yeah, I know this is serious.
I don't mean to laugh, but they're like the ducks covered in.
Oil, totally, totally.
They're like it won't come off, it's going.
To be all the ducks will be covered in oil.
That was like but back then that was like the marketable fear, yes of that stuff, Like you weren't talking about global warming at that stage and all this other stuff, but it was that was it was like the.
Ducks, Yeah, the ducks will be covered in oil. And I feel like.
Light product placement for Dawn or that happened later that, Like I remember there was like that series of down commercials.
Maybe this is more where they'd use yeah.
But so okay, but that's very successful because that was very That association happened in my brain immediately when you too. So they have done some amazing capitalization on the market of duck oil cleaning. Yeah.
I think that's such a bizarre episode too, because I would and if I was in high school, I wouldn't care if we got like a new sports field or something like. I just wanted to be away from school. I don't know, were you like that. I just wanted to like the.
Thing the parents would care about them, the kids would be like like like it's fine, especially because that school wasn't in like disrepair, like that school was in pretty good shape or at least the sets that we saw.
And also it's going to take like ten years for them to build on that new stuff that they graduated, like they're gonna benefit from it.
Yeah, it's that's a really good point too, Kobe, Kobe, did you have like a retro diner you would hang out in high school like the Max?
Yeah, And did you think that was a thing that everyone had.
Yeah, sure, oh for sure, Like there wasn't too many, like if we had like a Burger milkshake joint. It was so like there was a picture of Elvis and Marilyn Monroe as well, like all the walls, Like it was such a Americana place. There's a I think it's called Cafe fifties, which is still there in Canada. Like that's very Americana. This is this is back in the day. But we didn't have a hangout like that. There was certainly a subway we hit pretty hard.
Which was very much enjoyed.
But you know, when we transitioned into later later years, it became like full goth Nirvana hanging out of the smoke pit and kind of went that route for me, Like, but when I was watching, say but the Belt was very squeaky clean and innocent, and then something, you know, something just happened and it just kind of.
All went another direction.
Do you remember speaking of the I feel like the oil company episode was like one of the ones where they were really trying to like teach a lesson in a weird way because it was coming from such a big corporation of NBC.
You know.
But do you remember the one where the weed one where they get pressured like they're at a party. Yeah, yeah, and no, not that one, the one where okay, not the one where she does pills pills, Yeah, yeah, the pills.
But they're really covering a lot of ground.
On this, that's right, how that eras she takes like adderall or something, and she's so excited, she's so squray, so scared, she's so scared, so scired. But do you remember the one where the president of NBC comes up? Well, basically they like break the fourth wall because it's basically like they go to a party with what's the guy's name, His name is Johnny the singers in Town and his name's like Johnny something. Oh yeah, okay, Olivia if you can find it, but I don't. But his name's like john.
Johnny no Good probably exactly like yeah, Johnny no Good.
He comes in town, he's gonna be performing in their town or something. Takes a liking to Kelly, invites Kelly and a bunch of their friends. Johnny Dakota, Thank you so much, Olivia. Johnny Dacota comes to town, takes a liking to Kelly, invites all their friends to this party. And at the party, he says to Kelly, like, do you want a hit of pot or something like that, and.
She's like a hit of the marijuana.
She's like no, and she's really freaked out, and they're all like and they're all like, Johnny Dakota, like you say that you're a good guy and that you're a positive influence, but actually you're smoking weed like you stink, and we're getting out of here. And then at the end of the episode, they bring the president of NBC on and then they're all like sitting on the stairs and the president of the NBC is in the middle and he's like, doing drugs is not cool, and then they all and Unison go, Hey, what I do Dope, Nope.
I kind of do remember this.
I kind of do not well, but I didn't when you brought it up and then when you described it so so accurately. I don't know if I'm just really putting it all together and really visualizing it or if I do remember seeing it. But what I also find fascinating about it is like, how did these kids feel doing this show?
Like how were they feeling like doing this messaging and doing.
These shows which are like portraying these issues, you know, and what.
Are their own lives like like that?
That is actually very fascinating me.
It's obviously not anything I thought about when I was.
Actually watching the show, but when I just think on it now, like they're probably twenty, right, Yeah, they're not young teenage like they're twenty year old actors, right.
And I feel like that was a lot of like the book that came out that they sort of got mad at the guy who played Screech for I'm Sorry that I Am not using his Dustin Diamond, Dust and Die, and they got mad at Dustin Diamond, I think because he released this tell all book and they sort of said that a lot of it wasn't true, I believe, but I think that that was part of the thing. And then there was that made for TV movie about them. I think that was part of the thing with them, was that they sort of it seems like, and I could be misquoting this because I should have read any of these things that I'm naming, but or watched any of these things that I'm naming, but that they sort of did have this party lifestyle because they were part of such a successful show and they were so rich at such a young age. Totally, but that like they had to portray these really kind of squeaky clean kids.
Well, you know a lot of the shows that era, like even like The Fresh Prince of bel Air and stuff, they would have these like heavy messaging like anti drugs or they would kind of try to have this educational kind of I feel that was like and it was like very heavy handed usually yeah in all these shows, which doesn't really Yeah, And.
They would have those commercials for The Fresh Prince.
I remember that were like tonight on the Fresh Prince, an episode for your whole family to sit down and watch.
Right right now, Kobe, you have a modern day say, by the Bell story or yes, well.
I just want to I just wanted to be clear to you both and whoever's listening, that I was very much in love with Zach Morris. Okay, Like I don't know if you guys had this in your lives, and it's such a fascinating thing to look back on. But the feelings are real, you know what, The feelings real. Like I said, I was very much in love with Zagmores very much, and you know, fantasized about driving down once I got my driver's license and became a legal age to somewhere in California. But as you know, I'm an actor and Mark Paul Gossler is a real person. It's not just it was not just Zack Morris. I was on a show on ABC called Stumptown. And when you have a show coming out, you know, you you go and you do a lot of a lot of press, and then there's this event called the Upfronts and they kind of wheel out all of their new shows, all the actors, creators, writers of their new shows to talk to press and get people very excited about it. Right. So he also had a show at ABC.
And what was his show?
Do you remember I don't remember.
I don't remember, but I do remember looking down.
That hallway into those piercing blue eyes and literally turning back into a twelve year old Oh my god girl, and was kind of like I saw him, and I was like, oh my god, like who was he going on? And like disappeared, like I just turned and I walked away, and I was like, Okay, that's crazy. We saw him. That's fine. I can't speak to him because this is the version, and somehow we ended up having a little face to face. Could not have been nicer, okay, it could not have been a nicer.
Human being lovely.
I mean, I don't know what was happening on the exterior of my face and body, but the temperature rise that was happening internally was so intense that I just felt like I was sweaty. I was confused. I was really working hard to be a normal person. But it is such a fascinating thing, and I would like to stop talking about this moment and put it onto you guys, because I find I find the psychology of it fascinating because that period we're talking to a year of my life, obsessively in love with the pictures on my wall fantasies of this person, and then you meet and you're both in your own lives. But then there's like this weird thing that happens just to me, not to him. He's fine, but there's this reaction that happens.
That feels real and organic, and you're just confused, and you're just like, why am I react? Why am I having this this reaction? And I just I found it fascinating, And I think I was pretty cool, and I think I think he would agree. I think if you heard this, you'd be like, I don't. She was totally fine and she was totally cool.
I think I did pull it off, but I like nearly collapsed after it because it was such a physical marathon of keeping a lid on it, you know, just kind of pushing it all down and really focusing it on just be just just not be cool, be cool, be cool. And so it was it Really it was a win. Yes, it was a win for Kobe that day. It was a win. It was a win for twelve year old Canadian girls, oh everywhere everywhere.
Do you remember if you at any point said anything to him about being a you know, do you remember what you talked about surface.
The small talk, How Mary, which show are you on?
Oh?
Yeah? Cool?
I mean I like you, like, we just said what's the show? I couldn't tell you because I was like literally blank, like nothing was being absorbed. But it was very casual, just talking about that dare not go to the past.
They would not dare to.
Be like, hey, I was a really big fan of yours man, you know, like I couldn't. I couldn't even open Pandora's box on that. I couldn't even because I was so afraid of what will come out of it.
I love that story, and I want to tell you that I also met Mark Paul Gossler at an NBC upfronts and had a really different experience. I think this would have been like Midway. I was on us, and I remember I was at the I'll just go through. My story is a lot less remarkable, so I'll get through it pretty quickly. But basically, I think that Kyle Mooney and I were both you know, huge say by the Bell fans. We were at this party. We were like, should we say, hy, did we saw Mark Paul Gosler? Should we say had him?
Should we not?
I think we just sort of stumbled over to him and we went like, hey, we're egg fans and we like your boss, and he was kind of like, uh huh, and then I was it.
Now cut to moments later.
I believe I was a terran at that party and we got to meet Scott Wolf, who had a bigger crush on when he was Bailey on Party of Five, and he was really nice.
Show Bailey Bailey.
So it wasn't like all things awt.
And look, I don't blame Mark Paul Gostler, because I do think that what Kyle and I presented to him was not You were giving giving him a lot to work with, you know, just like we just probably he probably had no idea who we were and just thought we were too weird with curly hair, being like we like your shower or what are you on?
You know, But he gets it, he knows.
He's like, yeah, yeah.
I don't know like what his thoughts about it are generally, but like he's accustomed to that. Yeah, he's very much because that's his whole life. I'm sure. So like yeah, I'm you know right right right.
You gotta just got we gotta get You've got to get Mark Paul on the pod.
Yeah, gotta get him on.
You gotta get him on.
And I got to remind him of this, and he's never gonna remember.
So actually I won't remind him.
But that's the whole point of what Kobe saying is to play cool, So do not remind him just because cool, be cool, be cool.
Yeah, it just got to be absolutely cool.
You know that when you're telling yourself to be cool, it's not not working. Like it is not working.
We're saying, dude, dude, absolutely be cool.
Now, Kobe, have you seen any of the revival of Say by the Bell that came out. I'm going to call it twenty nineteen is twenty twenty.
I'm not because I'm not clear about what it actually is. Are there some old casts?
Yeah, they play like the principle they play. Yeah, I think that.
They play like the adults.
They play the And it's called like say the New Class or something like, it's like a new it's like a new breed. It's a new not but not because he's to say by the Bell a new breed.
Well, say by the the New Class came right after Say by the Bell, And remember that was new students, And you'd watch it and you'd go.
Not for me.
I can't quite get on board with these new people, even though Screech and mister Belden were still.
There right right.
And then we talked about the college years? Was that with Kyle.
Kyle, Actually we talked it with Kyle Whoney.
We talked about the college years, which was wow. My biggest memory of it was just that Tiffany and Bertheeston had cut her hair into a very cute bob. But that was like a big That was when she was starting to get onto nine o two and zero and stuff too.
I ducked out after they did like the Hawaii episode.
Yes, yes, the movie like that was Lion Style.
It was called y which can you like?
How much fun would that have been to shoot that?
Like to be like, you're in your twenties, You're like shooting this show.
You're in Hawaii?
Like the best, the best, the last.
And it also when Variety, I'm just looking, I have a little thing from Wikipedia on it. And when Variety re they said, the clearestall demo will eat it up.
Oh that's not kindescending?
God, oh god.
There was another movie that came after that a couple of years later saved by the Bell Wedding in Las Vegas. I don't know if you remember that where we got married Zach and Kelly and it says that Zach and Kelly, the whole gang goes to Vegas so that Zach and Kelly can Elope after their parents disapprove of the impending marriage.
Did these movies not have laugh tracks because I vaguely remember them like not having left tracks and making it very hard to watch.
You're absolutely right, Jonah. I remember watching them.
They were like an hour or an hour and a half long, and you'd watch them on like primetime TV, and they didn't have laugh tracks, and it was so jarring because they'd make a joke and then they'd just be like, Okay.
Oh that's interesting. Yeah, that's a that's a transition, that's a that's a hard one.
You know what else?
I remember that I now because we didn't have the internet obviously in the nineties and stuff when these shows were coming out.
I did I did we had it?
We had it first? Did have that first? We had it first?
Absolutely?
Rock? Yeah.
Well, the thing that I found to be so confusing that they never explained, but you could later find out on the internet once that was available, was why at some point their senior year, Kelly and Jesse disappear and in their place is Tory.
Yes, so you were talking about the new class. Then I went is that when Tory came in? But then I remembered her friend, Zach Morris. Tory was like around, Tory was around.
What happened was they had like this finale kind of episode that they they were shooting their graduation episode I think was supposed to be the finale, and then the show got picked up for twelve more episodes, and I think Kelly, Tivnany, Abertheeson and Elizabeth Berkeley were like sea like, we're out of here.
And so that what they did was web booking.
We be booken.
Okay, yes, we are booking.
We are booking.
So what they did was they brought in this Tory character so that Lisa wasn't the only girl on the show. So Tory was created as a cool but pretty biker girl who would also serve as a love interest for Zach but act as a nemesis for him initially. And also, rather than develop a second new character, the producers decided to rely more on minor recurring characters such as ginger Ox and Big Pete.
Don't remember them. And Tory was spelled by Tory Spelling played toy right, is that? No?
No, no, no, no no. To be clear, they are saying that she was not lesbian, because she certainly should have been. That would have been a really cool character. That would have been such a Remember, yeah, that would have been such a cool choice. That would have been such a cool choice. But ready for that.
They were ready to take on oil, but not on not homosexuality.
Well, let me say this. Tory Spelling was on say by the Bell.
Okay, she played like a nerdy girl on it, and she.
Was she was bicker Staff, it says.
Yeah, and she got nominated for an award. And then do you remember that they said, I think this was after this? Obviously she was cast in Nino two and O, which her dad, Aaron Spelling created, But do you guys remember I remember I had a lot of like fan books and stuff on Nino too, and oh, because I was a big fan of that as well a stand of it, you might say. And in the books and stuff, it would say that Tori Spelling auditioned for Nino to and O with a different name. So that the casting directors wouldn't just cast her because she was Aaron Spelling's daughter. Now, now that I've like created my own show and stuff.
I know that, Like yeah, okay, yeah, pretty sure they knew. That's not really how it works.
You don't go like, oh, this is your daughter, we've me she's auditioning with a new name.
Who is this mystery girl?
She's very talented, let's cast her.
I just like the idea that she came in but just wearing like a mustache.
Oh I'm trying to be.
But wait, do you want to hear?
Another fun fact I found on Wikipedia is that Save by the Bell was based on this show called Good Morning, Miss Bliss, which they used to show repeats of that after school. I remember it was kind of that show is kind of retooled and they kept some of the cast, including Mark Paul Gossler, Dustin Diamond, Lark Voorhees, and Dennis Haskins, and then they found the rest of the new cast when it was sort of retooled and to Save by the Bell. Anyways, for Saved by the Bell, they were looking for a Kelly Kapowski and the three actresses that were considered that they were picking between were Deeson, Yes, the winner, Elizabeth Berkley, who they didn't choose, but who they liked so much they made her Jesse. And guess who the third one was? Can I give you a hint? Yeah, it's someone that was on nine o two and oh.
Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait, no, tell me I'm not going to be.
Okay, I'll give you multiple choice of the three mad.
This is better?
Yeah, yeah, Tory spelling Jenny Arth and Shannon to.
It's Jenny Garth.
Okay, I think from the way you said.
It well, because I couldn't think of Shannon Doherty's name, so I was gonna say the woman who played Brenda Jenny Garth. Jenny Garth was also being considered to play Kelly Kapowski. Now, wow, I find her to be Now this is my own bias.
I find her to be more of a dramatic actor.
Like I feel like those parts were cast correctly, Like I like Tiffny and berthis and as Kelly.
I like Jenny Garth as.
Kelly Donna Donna.
I think they're both named Kelly on their respective shows. WHOA Because don't you remember Brenda going Kelly.
Again Merroll's Place, and also nine O two I now real like confusing to people who don't live in this country, You're just like, well, that's what it's like down there.
Seriously, Melrose Place, there's.
A lot of drama, but it's mostly about romantic relationships. So I think we should try to.
Go Yeah, and can you believe that Andrew Shoe and Elizabeth Shoe are there and sister?
Yeah, I mean, wasn't Andrew Shoe like first of all, like way to go genetics, But wasn't Andrew Shoe like a very successful soccer player?
I think so? I think so. I think that's right. Yeah, you think he'd be good with his feet with the last name like Shoe. Am I right?
Wow, Jonah hadn't heard from you in a minute, and I'm glad.
That's but he's coming back in and he is coming back in hot.
Okay, we're going to take a quick break and we'll be right back with Kobe smaller.
Well, Kobe, we're back with Kobe, and now we're going to play a game with you called change dot Door.
Change dot Door otherwise.
Known as let's make fun of people who don't know how to use change dot org. So in this game, we'll bring up three sort of petitions that people are petitioning for somewhat nostalgic things. At times, I'm not doing a great way of job of it. I feel like even Essa are slowly like getting more and more. I don't know what's happening to us.
Well, you know what it must feel a little like like because I know this game because I've listened to it before. But you guys have to say the same intro, and that has got to be I feel like we've done this before, But.
How do we do it?
Is it in a new and inventive way?
Right? And it's it's really for the listener. It's just, you know, for their own service. You know, that's what we do it for.
And we just appreciate all this for that's what we do all this for the subscribers.
The subscriber by the way, they're not.
Called the subscribers. I didn't put a b in there, cybers subscribers.
I think we're on the same level right now, all of them.
Yeah, okay, I'm glad.
We're all low And no matter how you spell subscribers, either way, we stand them.
We stand them hard.
So Anyways, we're going to reuse three petition from Change Dot organ and then at the end we'll I'll say which one we would sign if we had to sign one.
Okay, but did you want to kick us off? Sure?
This one's gonna kind of be close to home, Kobe, ooh, ok are you ready for it?
Yeah?
How I Met Your Mother reunion or spinoff series with the same characters is what it's called. I think How I Met Your Mother should have a spinoff series. In my opinion, the show could have went on for four to six more seasons. First, they could show us the story of Ted and Robin. They could also show us how maybe Barney ends up with Quinn, and how Lillian Marshall's family continues, and maybe how their kids growing up to be the Gang. I don't know what else could happen, but I know one thing. The show deserves more. And even if it ends up being bad like most of you will say, it will.
No excuse us.
Even if it ends up being bad like most of you would say. But who cares. We still got to see our favorite characters together again, and we could have closure, and maybe the characters will be the Gang in real life. You never know, so please spread this. Let's make it happen now. Just to explain to you, Kobe, what's kind of going on here?
Can you let me know how many.
The Yeah, we got fifteen signatures here and we're trying to get to twice.
You want to know how relevant I still am.
Well, I'm sure there's multiple of these, but this was the one we yeah, fifteen percent. By the way, this petition is made out, you're one of the people this position is made out to.
I want you to know it's made out.
Oh, like it's directly you can direct it to people.
But that's the thing that we've always wondered, is like, I don't think you get and this is a test case. Okay, I don't think you get alerted when a petition is made out to you.
And there did show up in your inbox? Did it? It's made out to Josh?
Let me check. I do tend to put my personal email out there, really sure, So I'm sure it's in the old Gmail.
It's Josh Radner, Neil Patrick, Harris, Kobe Smolders, Jason Siegel, and Alison Hannigan. This is made to all of you, and so you know.
So I think it's I think it's such a sweet idea, and I think it's only complimentary that, yes, this person and the other fifteen want.
To see the other fourteen.
Okay, she probably you're right, she probably signed it too. Yeah, okay, so either fourteen fifteen sounds better that they want to see the gang back together, that they consider those people their gang.
And I just love that.
Yeah, yeah, I just love that totally.
Yeah, it's great. And so we might get to twenty five after this episode. Given it, maybe go check it out.
Yes, yeah, check it out.
Let's see if you like that petition even more than this next one, which also might hit a little close to home given that it's related to Canada stuff.
This one's going to definitely hit close to home. This one's called put the Canadian back in Tim Hortons, bring back chicken noodle soup, and so this is a petition. Tim Hortons is known for being a strong Canadian brand, or should I say it was. Over the past couple of years, I've seen them differ from their strategy as a simple and quick place to get a donut and coffee. Now they have endless amounts of options, including burgers, Yes, burgers, to me, this simply goes against what I believe Tim Hortons is at its core, and recently they've gone too far. They've discontinued a classic and I simply cannot stand for this anymore. The classic I'm referring to is their chicken noodle soup. This goes on for a very long time about how upset this person is about Tim Horton's getting rid of this chicken noodle soup, and it currently has two hundred and seventy three signatures they're trying to get to five hundred. Kobe, have you ever had the chicken noodle soup at Tim Horton's.
Never? Never?
Okay, I wasn't sure if this was a big thing in Canada.
And you know what, here's the thing with Jimmy Hoes as we call it.
It's it's more of the East Coast chain. There's certainly someone in Vancouver, certainly, but like it goes. The only reason I say East Coast is maybe this particular group of people are from there because like to me, it's like it's cold, you want to go in, you want to get a chicken noodle soup?
Right? Yeah?
Yeah, But never in my life have I gone in to order that. I also, I don't think I've ever had a burger at Timmy Hose. I have had a double double, and I have had multiple timbits.
Well that's this person mentions Timbits and what would you say, timbits are the donut hole.
Yeah, I'm actually surprised by the number of people that have signed it. Yeah, and so I was when you were reading it. I was having actually some pretty strong feelings and then I had to curb them when I was like, well, there's some people who have some they really enjoyed it, but it was not for me. I never had it.
And Okay, yeah, don't.
I don't know, I don't.
I think this person is arguing. Also, set's kind of a precedent. This person says, the last one of the last sense is if you aren't a chicken noodle soup lover, maybe your favorite item will be the next on the chopping block. I wouldn't be surprised, which is sort of This person just doesn't like the whole direction they're moving with the menu, and the chicken soup is kind of almost like.
Just a It sounds like they're worried about Tim Wharton's moving into like a burger like a like a McDonald say another sort of yes, a more American fast.
Food chain, but I don't don't. I don't associate it with with the soup. And for me, it's it's like a donut coffee shop. Well that's what it's always been.
Another thing they say is all I want is a place where I can get my French vanilla timbits and eat my chicken noodle soup. And one one of those things is not like the other. Is the chances I go. It seems like like it would be one thing if they were getting rid of timbits or other donuting things. But the fact that they're getting rid of chicken noodle soup, that's to me feels neither here nor there. But look, I don't know, I'm I'm in America.
I mean, if if the maple glaze or the bear claw was on the chopping block, like watch us, there an uproar, there would be an uproar. But to each their own, you know what I mean, to each their own.
Now, something else that this person says at the end is ps the new canned chicken noodle soup Tim Horton's came out with simply does not compare. So almost feels like they brought the soup back but in canned form. And you know, I don't know what else to tell this person. Look, they brought it back free. You can still get it.
But I can still saying it doesn't compare.
It's like the fresh they like the fresh in.
The store to open a can and put it in another container to be warmed up and served to you.
Yes, yeah, yeah, exactly exactly. Okay, So keep this one in mind, Van asked you and read our last petition here.
This last one is called lasagna is a cake? This person, right, I'm having an argument with my friends, and I need to prove lasagna as a type of cake. Cake would be considered a category including cheesecake, ice cream cake, chocolate cake, birthday cake, et cetera. Lasagna would fall under one of these subcategories. First, lasagna has many similarities to cake. The icing is the cheese and the meat slash sauce, and the pasta is the cake part. The name of lasagna should be spaghetti flavored cake because the popular Italian looks like a cake. Although you could put ricotta, cheese and meat on a lasagna, not making a cake. Cakes have a wide variety of toppings and flavors ice cream, yogurt, fruit, and cookies, meaning alasaigna can also be a cake. Now, can I say where this person kind of gets in their own way is they're making this argument.
They're making this argument, and then.
They say, although you could put ricotta, cheese and meat on a lasagna, not making it a cake.
Yeah, then they can tell you.
Spell lasagna wrong in the title the position they do. That's not a great sign but there are two hundred and fifty one signatures for this.
I gotta say.
I'm not against it because, yeah, it's also for me personally.
I'm not a big sweets kind of gal.
So if I saw more lasagnas in the dessert section at a restaurant.
Might be interested.
If like one of those really fancy restaurants they come around with like a plate that shows the desserts on it, and there's like a tiramie sue, there's a chocolate cake, there's an ice cream, and there's a piece of lasagnia.
It doesn't really, it doesn't really, it doesn't really work.
And that Yeah, when I read this, I really want to know more about the backstory here, and I want to know. Like, this person is talking to their friends like, no, Lasagnia's cake, and they're like, no, it's not. And she's like, well, I'm going to go and change dot org and I'm going to write a petition and we'll sen make signatures. And they have two hundred and fifty one signatures. Yeah, I mean that's a lot. So and I like the passion that goes into something as seemingly trivial as this. I like that this is the thing that they want to put their energy into. I can respect that.
Well, this is what I'm taken by.
As I'm listening to these individual petitions. I was like, I wish I believed in something like in changing something so much.
Right that I wrote up a whole thing, yeah.
And posted it because these people are very you know, they have some deep beliefs about it and like it. I'm sure some of them are jokes. I'm sure so they's some like joking joking, but these last three seem pretty serious.
Yeah.
Yes, And as I learned in my Chicago improv days, you know, you say yes and everything.
This person made this.
I'm just seeing this now, so you know, for example, the how I met your mother petition was made out to you personally and.
Some other people.
This petition was made out to quote non believers.
And that's where I go.
If you're so serious about making lasagna, it can be considered cake like just making it to non believers. There's a part of me that things you're working on your stand up set.
Okay, well, let me tell you something else. This petition still has some juice because it was made two years ago and it says someone signed it four hours ago. Oh my god, you're right, someone signed it day ago. So every day people are signing this petition.
I guess what frustrates me sometimes about these petitions is when, so what if they get a thousand signatures?
Non believer can't put this into action.
Right, you know?
Right?
Yeah, you need the back, like even if you made it out to some kind of roused Stofers. Yeah, Stofer's exactly, and then Stofers at the very least could do a great commercial campaign.
You know, give no money to this person.
But I just I feel like when it's made out to nobody sort of like that, it just feels like this person. But I guess I guess to go against what I'm saying into this person's defense, like if there's a big enough movement, which already two hundred and fifty one people assigned, which unfortunately about twenty times so many.
People somehow I Met your Mother petition?
Wow, I get it, I get it, I get it.
It could become a movement. You know, any of these.
They don't want it that bad.
They don't want to see us all back together that badly.
They do.
And the thing that makes me laugh the most about the how I Met your Mother petition is when the person goes, I know you all think it will be bad, but regardless, it's like, why are they assuming that.
Maybe that's the petition?
We need to look up, like, nobody do this because it will be bad.
So Kobe moment of truth here. If you had to sign one of these petitions bringing back how I Met your Mother, Chicken Noodle souper, Tim Horton's or the Lasagna's cake, which one are you going to hypothetically sign.
We're putting you in a bit of a tricky situation.
Sure, sure, well, yeah.
Which I will speak to in the sense that like How I Met your Father is a show streaming on Hulu right now that you want to put your energy into a spin off, a wonderful show full of amazing actors, wonderfully written. The executive producers are the same one from our show, so that could feed that. You know, that's something sure that is already out there that exists that these people can tune into.
Some of you have revisited it, right, have have done it?
Yeah? Yeah? I did an episode last season, and I think Neil was on this season. And we also had like Joe Nievez do an episode with me and I think it's already aired.
And now I'm worried.
Alexis Denisov was on I think this season, who was a recurring on ours. So there's some familiar You're right there, You're right like there are some the world is continuing. Yeah, we might not all be like on a couch together, but like, what is the world that.
The world still turns?
As the world turns?
The are live well and Kobe, I want to let you answer, But to your point, you can also go to Tim Horton's and buy chicken noodle soup. It also still exists in a slightly different form.
Okay, Okay, So I guess our answer is let's make lasagna cake for God's sakes.
It's literally the only one that their prayers haven't been answered.
Yeah, it's the only one I felt really sparkly about. It's the only one I went. I'm kind of into that. I get the layering. I get when I started thinking when they were mentioning put like raisins and that you put nuts in cakes. Sometimes there's a lot of people are getting really imaginative with desserts.
Why can't we kick some savory over there.
You know, me and my wife make lasagna once a year, so I don't eat it that much. So if it was cake, then I could eat it everyone's birthday. It would be great. So I'm on board.
What's that, Vanessa?
Vanessa?
What speaking of using like dinner products to make a dessert. I just want to remind Jonah of the time when he and his wife came to Thanksgiving at my grandma's house and Jonah by himself had made brownies with black beans. Okay, oh okay, And I feel that our grandma asked you, Jonah a question.
Yeah, so have you ever had this? This is like a thing, black bean brownies. It can be like kind of a substitute to make them healthier. So you add like cocoa powder, but use black beans as a base. And my mom made him for my parents. My mom liked him, and so we're going to fild Up for Thanksgiving. So I made them and I was like, oh, I'll bring this and you know, everyone can enjoy it. And my grandma tried it there, like Jonah made this, and then she said something like, oh, did you make these bad on purpose so that Vicky wouldn't want you to cook? Like she thought that my plan was to make like a really disgusting dessert so that I would never have to cook. But I actually like the brownies and thought they're really good, and it was, but it was also so funny that I couldn't be mad. I just thought it was so funny. But yeah, so the black and browns were not a hit.
I think they sound delicious and I'm all for like a sneaky protein substitute. I love it, but I love it.
Yeah, thank you, thank you, thanks for bringing that up and us.
Yeah, our grandma used to also watch General Hospital and one time I said to her, our show is getting so stupid, isn't it? And she said, yeah, I mean, also you aren't on it that much and she was talking about us.
And now I'm not.
General shout out to Grandma Heavy.
Grandma Heavy.
She was great. We loved her.
Anyways, those are the moments to look forward to, like when you're when you're just at that age where you're just like, there's no filter and you just say it.
You just yeah, you say it.
You have earned it.
Oh boy, So Kobe, you're picking lasagna as cake is a cake?
Yeah, Jonah, same.
Page, Yeah, yeah, same, I'm on the exact same page. I'm going lasani as a cake as well for sure. Okay, exactly same thing.
And to bring things really full circle, the next time I sleep over your house, Kobe, if you guys want me to bring a dessert, won't it be so funny if I bring those lasagna.
I would love that, Yes.
Please, it would really be really be funny.
And halfway through whatever movie we're watching, if we get a sweet tooth, I'll just heat up just.
A slice of square, just slice of square.
But watch that that Garfield movie or something he loves.
That's right, Garfield loves.
You had to have Garfield in Canada.
We did have Garfield. I mean we had him in the newspaper.
Too, and did you have Heathcliff.
I don't know if we did. I don't remember Heathcliff. We being the general Canada.
Well, well, Kobe, this has been really Heathcliff or no, Heathcliff. This has been Heathcliff of fun. And we stand this episode very much.
I'm standing you, guys.
It's there, Thank you.
Is there anything you'd like to promote?
Is there?
Where can people find your finest work, et cetera.
The finest work you know, I'm on.
It's obviously your daughters.
Yeah, yeah, but don't go looking for them.
No, don't look for them.
Get out of here. No, I mean, I don't know stuff I'm on, I'm on, I don't. I'm on the social media.
I rarely post and I'm rarely on it. But yeah, there, there's there's, it's an existence.
I really enjoy your show, guys, and thank you for entertaining me and driving around the city way too much.
Oh, thank you.
I just think you're a delight.
Thank you so much, Kobe. That's so cool to hear from you.
And again to you know, Tom Cruise and his people if they want to send me a cake to the gingerbread company.
But also I will count on you.
So basically, anyone who makes desserts, Vanessa will send her address.
It will count on you, Kobe to put in a good word for me.
Okay, absolutely anything you need, anything you need.
Okay, Well, that was really fun. Thanks so much to Kobe for joining us and for everyone for listening. If you enjoyed that, please subscribe to the podcast and keep it out. For next week's episode of How Did We Get Hird? We will discuss more stories from our childhood and cultural touchstones like Saved by the Bell
