How Did We Get Weird with Vanessa Bayer and Jonah BayerThis week we are thrilled to be joined on the podcast by the hilarious writer and actor, Jeremy Beiler who you might know as the co-creator of Vanessa's incredible Showtime series I LOVE THAT FOR YOU. On this episode of the podcast, Vanessa and Jeremy reminisice about writing sketches together on SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE when they weren't hunting down snacks in other departments of 30 Rock in the early morning hours. We also do a collective deep dive into one of the most unhealthy kids foods of all-time, Lunchables! Did you know that they had a short-lived spin-off called Brunchables? Sorry, but you do now. Finally we play a nostalgic round of BACK TO THE PRESENT where Jonah wishes he could experience the joy of shopping for concert T-shirts using tiny pictures tucked away in magazines, Vanessa recalls using wooden shoe stretchers as a painful childhood toy and Jeremy makes a very convincing case for bringing back the color teal. So break out your shark's tooth necklace and let's get into this!
Hi, I'm Vanessa Bayer and this is my brother Jonah.
We're two siblings who love to talk about our childhood and nostalgia and how to shape us into the people we are.
Today, who are quite hap if I do say so myself.
Welcome to how did we get Weird?
So Jonah, I'm very excited for our guests today. We used to work together, well, we still work together, but we started working together at SNL and he was just an incredible writer there, and we would write stuff together and basically we would sit in my office and I would fall asleep and I'd be like, I think it's done, and he was a lot less lazy than me, and he would be awake, kind of fixing stuff. And I said in our intro that we're quite hap because half is a word that he and I came up with when we were writing this Don Lazarus weather forecaster character, which we tried to get on so many times our last season there, like we can maybe get into it with him, although it's basically just that she used to be like a game show host of like a really high tech game show, and then we tried other stuff. Anyway, finally we got her on weekend Update, and he and I really had a very fun time coming up with insane things to have me say. So without further ado, Jonah, do you think we should introduce our guests?
Let's do it. Let's get into it.
Let's get right into it. Okay. Our guest today is an incredibly talented writer, actor, and comedian who has worked on some of your fave shows, including Saturday Night Live, Inside, Amy Shumer, Life, and Beth And together we co created a little show called I Love That For you ever heard of it? Please welcome our friend Jeremy Biler.
Oh my god, Hi, Hi, Oh, I'm starring.
I'm looking at a couple of great a Bayers right now.
Oh my gosh.
So nice to see your face.
So nice to see you too.
I wasn't sure if I was supposed to stay silent during that, because I really wanted to, like, but I think I'm supposed to like sort of not be there.
Pretend you weren't.
Okay, I'll pretend I didn't hear any of them.
Pretend you just got here.
I'll pretend there was like a little door that I opened.
And walked in. What time are we talking?
Where you're kind of trying to polesh up the script and Vanessa's just fully passed out.
Oh that's going to be a real, real nice two am, three am kind of moment, So I think, and probably what you also want to picture is a couple of I'm going to call them like jumbo containers of mats of bal soup. Yeah, like probably toward the bottom with like you know, when the mats of bal comes apart and it's just like matz of bal dust at the bottom.
That was our move. Our move was to order in mats of bal soup from Juniors, I believe, yes, which was the only place that maybe like that was open at two or three am.
And what was it.
There was some kind of minimum where it was like you couldn't order one, you had to order two soups.
Yeah, we maybe had to, like cause there were two of us. We maybe had to order like an extra soup.
I remember the soup's just being so big, so much soup.
And yeah, there was Devin for late at night. There was definitely a minimum we had to hit. So we'd be like, well, I guess we'll add a third soup or whatever. Like I feel like that's.
Probably the origin story too.
Is probably like you wanted to get some soup and then you realize you had to get too, and you were like, hey, Jeremy.
Jeremy, I'd love to get you a soup for no reason other than I want to get you soup, not to be the delivery minimum.
No, that was that fond memories. The soup kept us going.
But also I would not say that I was that you were lazy and I was working.
I kind of don't.
I kind of remember it the other way around, like you were. Really it was a real partnership. We kept each other going.
I would say, yes, yes, but I do remember a few times falling asleep on my couch and you would be like, I'd be like, it's done, and you'd like, also so healthy to be eating big balls of MutS of ball soup in the middle of the night. But yeah, you're right. He kept us awake. That's what we need that energy to really.
And that was such a small, windowless yeah office, And then I think there was probably like Ariana Grande would come in for a meeting and probably smell soup everywhere.
I had a dark, windowless office that smelled like soup. I think that's really a fair assessment. It was so weird. It was Fred Armison's old office and it was like the well, it wasn't the only office that didn't have windows, but somehow the lack of windows is really present, I think, because you're right, because of the size.
The nice thing about it is I remember you could turn off the light and it was true pitch black.
Yes, I see meditating, yeah.
Because it would be dark and then people would knock on the door and they'd be so freaked out if I was meditating, I'd be like, I'm meditating and they'd.
Like it was Yeah.
I noticed that if someone interrupted you meditating your net like, people absolutely flip out.
They think they think that they've ruined your life, like they've done something so awful.
They're like, oh my god, is your brain gonna brain? Yeah?
Yeah?
Yeah? What was your office?
I was in when my first year It was with Sarah Schneider in eighty and it was your old desk.
Oh, that was my old desk. That's right, that's right, that's right.
Was the three person office.
Yes, And then after that, I think I was in there one more year and there was was Bill Stephen maybe popped in there and eighty popped out and then got it, and then after that I was and then I was down the hall with Pete Davidson.
Oh classic caring.
You were in that You were in that office? Were you in that office? That was like the first office kind of it was.
Like, I want to say the third office.
Oh, like if you start with in the table read area and then there's one where Kate was, then and Chris and then one more down or two more downs.
Okay, okay, you were in there.
But I think but because you had your own we would always work in there. It's like pretty luxurious actually, even though it was like giving deprivation tank.
Yeah.
Yeah, it was a deprivation tank of an office. What about You know? The food situation was really funny because we were talking about Tuesday nights when we would stay up writing thinking about like the next day, how you would sort of recover eating wise.
Oh?
Is that like because you would sleep over and then what would you have for breakfast?
Oh?
I had some really dark breakfasts.
Well, first of all, someone would order pizza and then.
There would be a pizza two three in the morning, and then I'd be like or maybe one in the morning, there'd be like a bunch of pizzas on the on the big table, and then I'd be like, you know what, I'm going to be good. I'm not going to have too much pizza. And then I would have it cold at.
Like that's what I would do.
I would have it at like four am, but cold.
Yeah.
And also the other thing is like the pizza wasn't provided by the show. It was like somebody in one of the cast or writers would have to buy it for everyone. And I remember like, if you bought it, you'd really kind of and by you, I mean me, I'd really want people to know, like I'd be like, yeah, pizza for me, pizza.
Is pretty good.
Right. That reminds me.
We had something on the I love them for you, Right, we.
Have something spoiler alert. So we wrote yeah with just because it is like when you spend money on food for people, you just like you want the recognized. It's not a big deal. I just you know, want you to know. I remember, like the pizza from me.
Yeah, yeah, So would you two? You two would would sleep over at the office, Actually I did.
Yeah, especially my first couple of years, I would. It just made more sense because I also lived in Brooklyn, and it was like a long ride. And it was also like you you kind of crashed on the couch for like four hours or something at best really, and then wake up and do like another pass sometimes on your script.
And then turn it in.
And then I would have like I would stumble to like a bodega and have like really weird eggs with like peppers and potatoes and carry it back and just like stit really slumped, eating that with a plastic fork.
That was fine.
Yeah.
A lot of the writers would sometimes stay overnight. Not always, but a lot of them I remember, would go to j Crue and Rockefeller Center when it would open and buy like new shirts and stuff because like they wanted it to be like the equivalent of showering or changing and also just maybe trying to give the illusion that they had gone home.
Like oh, I'm fresh as a daisy, ready to go.
Yeah. I mostly would go home, but I remember sometimes it almost wasn't worth it because I would get home and then and I lived closer because I was like in the West Village, so it would only take you know, if it was the middle of the night, truly, it would probably take like ten to fifteen minutes, but then you'd go to sleep for two hours and then you wake. It's like doesn't always, but.
I think definitely by my third year, I was like somehow psychologically like going home and like showering and changing even if it's almost like that's better than sleep.
Yeah, you know, like yeah, I always.
It feels refreshing or something. But yeah, then you would get in the next day and you'd try and be healthy. But then the only day you really got free food was on Wednesday during the table read, and they would have it was so messed up.
It was the same like buffalo chicken wrap every.
Yeah, it was like wraps and chips and pretzels, and I remember Lauren always had tons of etamammy. But the thing that the one time I don't want to eat is when everyone's watching me. So it's literally like you're at this table read with all of the cast on the table, all the writers, every all the producers, everyone's like in this one room, and it's like that's when I'm invited to eat.
Yeah, so and you have to like perform while you're eating.
Yeah, But then there would be a break in the middle, right, and then that's when I would get some food from that table, and then similar to the pizza, once the whole table read was over and everyone was going home, that's when I'd go hit up that table.
Yeah, and that means get good and hard.
Literally raps had been sitting there for ten hours.
Truly, they turned into They've become like a dog toy, like the.
Texture wise like and I'd just be like, yes, and and it was just I'd rather eat so much stale food when no one's watching me than eating fresh food in everyone's eyes are on me.
Well, you were quite. You were quite the snacking streak for me.
Like you would bring me over to the in the middle of the night to like over to the advertising offices.
Where yeah, yeah, the publicity department was behind us. Okay, I know they've redone the offices a little bit, but to anyone who's there now, if you go back behind where the offices are, there's the publicity.
Off the other half of the Yeah, there's like the other half of the seventeenth floor is like there's like offices beyond the offices and they seem like kind of off limits ish like that's the vibe.
Yes, yes, because yeah, and but there were two areas there was one area that was almost like a little kitchenette between our area and the publicity area, and that if you went into the cupboard sometimes you could find chips and snacks and stuff like.
That would be our first stop.
That would your first stop.
Swing.
Now our second stop was kind of classier stop, which was those publicity people would this is so crazy, dude. Those publicity people would get sent like all of these like really fancy chocolate gifts and just sort of put them outside of their offices in like the general area, like.
Baskets like Wolven basket.
But wouldn't eat them. And it was like they're just sitting out there. So so we're going, okay, if there's peppermint park.
Or like ultimately were providing a service to others.
Yes, yeah, it probably they came in the next morning, you know, and they probably didn't even notice because they seemed like they didn't pay nearly as much attention to that as we were. But like, yeah, we would just go through like their gifts that they had sort of discarded and put in the you know, hallway for anyone to eat. Well, guess what that doesn't mean anyone in publicity. That means anyone in any department according okay. And the one other place that we would go sometimes which I think they caught on to us and stop putting food there. I really mean me is like the remember the video offices, the film offices, like oh for the people who made these short films or the pre tape stuff.
Like they who all worked harder than anybody.
Most They would sometimes have food from shoot I think in their office that they had like taken home, like like you know, like one can of pretzels or like one contain canister of pretzels that they had been able to salvage from a shoot. And I'd go, you snooze, you lose. If you're not your office at five am. Guess what.
You should be there at five am to protect this if you want to keep it.
So Vanessa, if something wasn't like locked or like had a sign on it, basically as fair games, will was okay, what was your role?
I wouldn't go into people's individual offices to take.
Only except maybe important points.
Shout out to Lauren Roseman are publicists so once in a while because I knew she wouldn't care. But like.
The other people who we did that we'd go in the office.
I truly think I did. I think her office was I don't think I really went in there, but I think she wouldn't have minded if I had. Okay, I'll say that, but yeah, I would just go into the common areas. And you know who's to say, Like.
You know, that's actually an excellent point.
Yeah, that is a really that would definitely hold up in court.
But we had so much fun because can you imagine if you're like writing, you're getting so tired, and then we're just like, oh, should we go find all the hidden snacks in this Excuse.
Me, there's a fucking pretzel rod that could maybe give defibrillate our energy and get us going again.
Yes, yes, Jeremy, what would you say? And Jonah you can answer this too. What would you say would be the number one find of snacks? Because you just reminded me of my favorite snack to find?
What a pretzel rod is your favorite?
A peanut butter stuff pretzel is actually my favorite? But what would be Yeah, like, if I found a canister of peanut butter stuff pretzels, I'd go I've hit the gold mine.
I think, to me, it's to me, it's string cheese.
I know that that's not like something you want to find like out in a basket and it needs to be in the fridge.
But that's yeah to me, that's like, that's.
Such a fun snack.
Yeah. Yeah, I chomp it too. I don't string it. Whoa.
We had a petition about that. On this very there was a petition.
Oh yeah, someone said, don't allow that.
Someone wanted to make it illegal to chomp it.
Okay, well I would, I would.
Leave the country.
I have pretty good self control with food, but I would say the one that I have no self control is like that organic dried mango. Dried mango. It's just I opened the bag and it's just cannot stop.
It's like so good and it's actually yes, and they're actually so sugary and delicious.
I know they're so sugar because it's so concentrates basically like like a fruit roll up that kind of looks like it's healthy.
Yeah.
I bought some before you and Vicki stayed with me this last time. Jonah and you both went to stay with like a friend for the weekend, and you left the dried mango here. I don't know if you remember that. And I absolutely demolished it. It was like gone when you came, when you came back.
I do remember that. I do remember that, you know.
I actually we actually tried to make some because we were like, oh, we can get mango.
We have a food dehydrator.
Really, and it was one of those things where it's like this is not good, and it's like, actually way more expensive to buy fresh mangoes and make it, like because I'm always like, oh it's so expensive. Actually it's cheaper to buy it from someone who makes it professional.
That makes a lot of sense. The other thing that I would do a lot when we were at SNL because I had the luxury of doing it, was when I would go to the table when the read through was over and nobody was there is I would mix chips and pretzels.
Oh that's really good.
That's such a fun thing to do, like a Chex mix type thing. Yeah, like your own kind of big size checks mix.
Well, were it's really good.
I was going to say, Once in a while, I would take a little Okay, I would use pretzels to mix with a number of things.
So I would take sometimes.
The littlest like dinky slice of like yellow cheese, and put two pretzels on either side of it, like a tiny little hamburger but crunchy, and then I would eat that like a little sandwich. And then sometimes I would like take Minem's and pretzels together.
That's what I was just gonna say. Do you remember what there was cheese there too? Now I'm remembering there was cheese on the table on the table during read through.
Yeah, and it was sort of like accordioned out in this like beautiful squirrel.
What was the dessert situation?
I feel like there were like bowls of like individually wrapped kind of like Halloween candy vibe.
Yeah, little fun sized candies in a bowl.
Were there also little like brownie type things or or cookies.
Or oh, cookies, there were cookies.
Yeah. Isn't that so rude to make everybody stay up all night getting so tired, and then the next day'd be like, here's all this food that's bad for you. We dare to eat in front of all of us.
We dare you. You're gonna have to eat this in the most public setting.
You're gonna be so tired.
Gonness, Do you think there were people who the food just didn't register for? Who like never ate it, didn't pay attention, was it?
Well, if you worked there would have not registered for you.
That's kind of why I'm asking.
I'm kind of trying to think if anyone like Pete probably didn't care about it, who would have not cared about the food there.
Not cared like not cared about eating it or or.
Seeing like just like oh there's food there, like I'm not you know that they're just like not eat it, like not eat it or not have it like you know, like years later like have like mine, right.
Not something Obviously that's not a brain that I can comprehend, like, oh.
Yeah, I remember there was a table stuff there, I mean not yeah, no big deal.
Yeah No, for me, it was a constant little well.
I will say this probably didn't register as big with the producers and people who hadn't stayed up writing like the people had gotten a full night's sleep. Yeah, but even if I had gotten a full night's sleep, I would have been so effective. I'm trying to think, do you like I'm the only person I can think of his Pete? I mean, and maybe he wasn't.
Do you feel like he's probably You're probably right that I don't know, he seems.
Like Jonah, he is like a similar I mean, I think this seems like almost like you can't like comprehend what this would, which is why Jonah, sometimes I can't believe we're related.
It's because so Jonah, You're I'm putting together that Jonah, you're a restrained snacker?
Is that what Jonah is? Like the person and our family only person Like my mom is probably the closest to this, and my mom has like really good self control when it comes to food. But like we all would sort of like get full and overeat, and Jonah would just be like he would eat until he was like kind of satisfied, and he would like never be interested in dessert. And we were just like what is going on with this?
Like how are we absolutely things? I worship you?
Well, what's interesting is like in VICKI and I talk about this sometimes, is like as an adult, I've got more into dessert. So now I like I'll eat cho but I'll eat like you know, we'll eat like dark chocolate or something of a couple of little pieces.
Yeah that doesn't count, Jonah.
Actually that's not like nothing. That's like breathing air.
Yeah, you've gotten into tiny little pieces of dessert. That's not getting into dessert. Bro Okay, Our producer Olivia just asked if Jonah's ever heard of pie.
I like pie.
I like pie, but I make like coconut pie with like across dates and walnuts.
It's actually really good.
That's not dessert. That's granilla and pie in a pie form.
Actually missing like several pounds of dairy that you need to have. Look at your adorable cat. Look at your face.
You's got a really small face, which makes him extracute.
Oh that's really good, really good face. This is my favorite podcast that I've ever been.
This is really fun.
For like an hour in heaven.
Well watch this. I've gotten so good at segways. Jeremy. Well, we'll get into more snacks when we come back. Come back from this commercial break with our friend Jeremy Biler. We'll see you then soon and we're back now, Jeremy. Speaking of snacks, we asked you for some topics to talk about today, and you gave us just a gold mine of topics.
So many good.
Ones, so many good ones. But the one that we picked, which we had such a love for growing up, was lunchables.
Oh yeah, now, yes.
What made you want to talk about lunchables?
Inadvertently?
I've already spoken about cheese twice on this podcast, so you could tell my love of honestly cheese and crackers and maybe just a little bit of scalami or something.
Yeah, I think that might be sort of my deathbed meal.
That's like my that's like just a cool, just a room tempt cheese and a nice like salty cracker. That is absolute heaven to me. So I had lunchables a lot, and I love that. There's something about also like the organization of it and the little like it's this little square. Everything's cut into like these perfect like machine cut coins like from the US Treasury of like of like turkey coins, and then it's interactive. You stack them. They're so salty and so probably so bad for you. And that was really my damn.
Yeah. Yeah.
I also think.
It's fun when I really like foods that are the brand is like they make it into a verb. Yeah, like if this is lunchable, like you can lunch it up or whatever, like.
Eat the ripes.
That's always very funny to me. All Right, I'll see you guys later.
Bye bye.
Well you've picked up on so many. Jonah and I have been doing a little bit of research on lunchables, and you've picked up on so many things that have made them popular. One of the ones that Jonah found an incredible article about kind of hidden fact.
Yeah.
I found this article amazing Unmashable called the Untold Truth of Lunchables.
Oh my god, it's giving frontline on PBS.
Yeah.
It says, you know, Oscar Myler sold one point six billion of them in the first decade. Got so Yeah, they sold so many, and I guess you know, it says it was about in some ways like empowering kids the way they marketed.
It, you know, like.
Because like you can you can decide how you want to like organize that.
You're a kid.
You don't have a lot of power, you can't drive whatever, but like you can make your own lunchable creation.
I never even thought about that. Maybe that's right.
And the other thing that you sort of mentioned, Jeremy, is that like a big thing with them is that they resemble gifts. Yes, so it's like you're carrying it because they're a box. Yeah, So like that was a big thing with them, is that moms felt less, you know, they were trying to, like Oscar Myer was trying to respond to working moms who felt bad that they didn't have time to make lunches for their kids, but they could give their kid this thing that resembled a gift, and that made them feel good and it made the kid feel good because they're like, I'm taking this gift to school.
And it's easier because it's just like right off the conveyor belt and you just throw it into a lunch bag and then you're yeah.
Yeah, yeah, or not even. I feel like when I would take a lunchable to school, which was.
Rare, I don't think we got them Marria once in a while.
Once in a while, but I think I would just take it on its own. I just grab that thing, bring my gift of salami and.
Cheese, just under your arm, with all.
Your own Yeah. Yeah.
It's also like.
I feel like my only criticism is that when I was done with one, I wanted exactly one more lunchable.
You know what's interesting, there's a lot of petitions on chainshot org for adult lunchables, and when we were researching this, I saw that they actually did make them for limited amounts of time. But they were so unhealthy that I think there was a lot of backlash. So there were two versions targeting adults. Or I was the same as you, Jeremy. I was like, there's not enough in here.
It was really a snack.
Yeah, it was more fun, more like a snack. The first was called the Deluxe and contained two types of meats and cheeses, as well as a mustard condiment and a mint. So, okay, mint, very sophisticated for an adult. You go, and he goes, let.
Me put this in my briefcase and take it to.
Courting a lunchable at work, and you go, this is a Lunchible's deluxe. Do you see a cookie? No, there's a mint.
There's a mint for afterwards, and a little glass of port.
And then the second yeah, And then the second one was just called maxed out, originally called Mega Pax, which just had forty percent more food than regular lunchable.
So but either way, Joan and I are obsessed with Boku, which was sort of like a fruit juice for it.
I loved Boku.
So Boku, Yeah, is it like a basically a juice box for adults? Marketing towards adults? I feel like that's easier to get away. I cannot imagine, like you're saying your bog working at off and pulling out your lunchable and.
Yes, gentlemen, shall we.
And like with a little like a linen napkin, and like neverwhere it is.
And the other thing that you already hit on, Jeremy is a common complaint, like says this article, way too much sodium saturated fat. Some lunchables have as much as seven hundred and fifty grams of sodium for a single serving, which is like thirty percent of the daily intake, while others have half a day's worth of the saturated fat for your entire day in this little box.
According to this article.
Yeah, yeah, just blasting kids full of arterial plaque.
Yeah.
So they did try to swap in yogurt for candy and some of them, and they tried to add fresh apple slices and carrots and those did not sell well.
That would have gone right in the pressure.
You know, it's like inherent.
It's just interesting because yeah, they tried to make some organic ones which were both pizza. It's like, you can't have a lunchable and make it healthy because then that isn't really elunchible, right, yeah, yeah.
It's like a healthy Snickers bar or something. It's not right, you don't.
Yeah, yeah. And also the thing that's so fun about lunchables is that you get to you know, you have the cheese and the crackers and you stack them and you know, and the baloney, like that's part of the fun. If it's yogurt, and if.
You're absolutely fucking bonkers, you stack multiple layers.
Yeah, you do, like a tower. That's what you do.
And that's something obviously that's organically like a fun thing to do that they probably noticed kids doing. And now if you go to their website, which you go into the website and you have to say if you're a kid or a parent, I guess no, no adults who don't have kids go on there or whatever, but if you're a kid or a parent, and then depending it kind of like markets it to you. But basically the big thing that they've been marketing is this pushed for lunch a Build. So like their lunch a Build campaign.
Is that this is so upsetting to me.
It's so weird. You can go on their website and download sort of for lack of a better term patterns. If you buy a lunchable, you can like make certain figurines sort of out of the lunch.
Yes, yes, you upload your bill to their site and then you can like filter it by like dog Sea turtles stadium and they'll post your creation that you send to them. But what's so funny about is so few people have done it, because even kids aren't doing so. It's like it's like sea turtle, there is no it says no data. There's one rocket robot. There's one robot. You can tell like these marketing people at like Oscar Myra, like, yeah, kids are going to be sending in all their creations. It looks like they have like twenty of these with the entire website.
And the only problem is how are we gonna keep the sea turtle numbers low enough?
Sea Turtles.
One of these executives is like telling this kid. He's like, you can't go outside till you build a sea turtle and upload it, you know with your food. Yes.
The thing is yeah, it's like the moment you try and like make rules around what kids can create with these and have patterns, it's like unless you're going back to the deluxe version and having adults do it. I don't think you're gonna get a ton of.
It's so forced.
And you know, while we're on the marketing a Lunchables, this is where I get really kind of activated.
Here you goes Johnny gets really mad.
At flying to a rage.
They came up, you know, according to smeshal Artflold, they came up with a line of brunch of Bowles in twenty nineteen, which people thought it was a prank because on April Fool's Day.
But it's real and on April Fool's Day and people it's a breakfast sausage and egg. I mean it's like, yeah, they're like.
A cold egg and like a cracker or.
Like a yeah, it looks like a cracker with like a weird processed sausage and there's a ham and cheese one and it looks like in this picture there dollar ninety nine each. So I'm sure they're really good quality.
I'm going to spend.
Definitely the rest of this podcast making fun of it and and immediately going to.
Go buy it.
Well, the other thing that they did is they have this real Lunchables Twitter account and it's like here's a sample tweet, is like chanting while hitting fists on the cafeteria table.
Lunchables, lunchables, lunchable.
It's all these like corporate tweets trying to like make lunchables seem like ironically cool, and it's like so hard to read, but I keep reading it.
It has like a lunch struggling.
So it's like it's like a death knell. It's like the last days of the lunchables. They're trying.
Yeah, so they're trying. They're really trying hard.
I feel like to make lunchables into something they aren't and also to make them, like to make them very cool, and they're not cool. It's it is what it is, you know, it's it's I don't know what do you two think.
I think everything you're describing to me, I would use one word to describe it, which is unlunchable.
Yeah, and the bologney is made from mechanically separated chicken.
Apparently.
Yeah, that's a tough.
What you want is you want hands separated, you want hand separated when the machine the human being that chicken not cool.
I will also say the other thing that they've done, aside from brunchables, is they have lunchables that are snacks and also desserts. And I don't know if they're called snackables or dessertables, but actually it'd be a really good idea. But they're sort of compartmentalized. But it's more of like a strip with like three or four sections in it where you like put the dessert together or you put the snack together. And I just think, I don't know to what end for whom.
To what end? Yeah, what's our end destination here?
Because as we were saying, lunchible itself almost seems like a snack. I don't know, you.
Can't mess with the classic. I think that's the lesson.
Yes, I think.
I think if I'm going to have a dessert and I'm a kid, I'm going to go for like cookies or something like that. I'm not going to like be like, what kind of lunchable dessert creep? Well, I don't know.
Maybe it's also something about like if you have a lunchable which is this little perfect square, then finish that up and then another square of stuff like you know what I mean, Like you don't want two squares.
Of yeah, exactly exactly right. If they're saying it's like the dessert that goes with the lunchable it's like you lost me.
Yeah.
Another piece to the lunchable marketing I'm sorry to get so hung up on this, is that they can't advertise a lot of these because you have to apparently meet these minimal nutritional guidelines, and very few of them meet it. So it's like, I don't know. For me, it's like, I don't know, make your kid a sandwich, you know, even they say Askermeyer says, this isn't supposed to make a daily thing you eat. To me, it's like make a sandwich, have a sad so once a year you're supposed to it's once a year. You can have one once a year.
On your birthday. Sure, you want some mechanically separated chicken, you know, go for it. But yeah, it's like, I don't know. It's let it be what it is, you know.
Yeah, I'm surprised another company, like a more organic kind of high end company, hasn't tried to rip this off and make a healthy version of it.
Yeah, but I.
Guess the issue is that to do this in a natural like organic, it would probably be so expensive. It would probably be like by the time you're buying that like organic lunchable. It's you might as well just pack a lunch because it would be cheaper.
Yeah, it would probably be perishable too, And I feel like lunchables are probably like shelf stable for like ten years.
Yeah, yes, you're absolutely right. I think they have a lot of chemicals, a lot of ad it is.
But yeah, I will say, you know, as a kid growing up, it was fun making your own lunchable.
It was fun stacking them.
But I feel like as a kid today you have so many more options of like things to eat.
I don't know if it's still super relevant.
Yeah, I mean I will say that I really want one based.
On as soon as this.
Okay, let me ask you this.
If I give you like lunchables in one hand, or like some fancy preshudo fancy cheese, imported whole food thing, what are you going and no one else is around? What are you going for no one else is around?
I think for like nostalgia factor because I haven't had it in a really long time, and honest ad protrudo, like every.
Day I would have the lunchable.
I think I would go lunchable if it's just me alone, unshowered in sweatpants.
Yeah, I mean, well, so that's a good point, because I do think, yeah, there probably is that nostalgic element obviously that will probably bring you back to that time where and.
To be honest, I also just want to support Oscar Myron.
That's right, he needs our help.
That's a cool. Yeah.
I would do the same thing, I think, because also there's something so fun about just those little circles and little squares, and just the kind of obsessive part of my brain loves the idea of just getting in there and making shapes and then like eating them in a certain way.
Yeah, I kind of see how they would have thought, like, oh, maybe you can build little things out of this, like a house of cards or whatever, or like a gingerbread house.
I guess I could sort of see that they would be building blocks for things.
I think a better idea would be if they then having like patterns online would be if they just said, like, make something crazy with your lunch and then take a photo of it and upload that, as opposed to like make these things we've already designed and just.
Created that I could maybe make some new a new category just for you.
Yeah, that would be actually really nice. I would obviously want to get paid for having my name affiliated with it.
You know who was the guy who got kicked out of Was that James Corden who got kicked out of Bathazar who had like those issues there. Yeah, so they tweeted in October, anyone banned from Bathazar is still allowed to eat Lunchables. It's like, you guys can't.
Jump on curl and make it like like a lunch Like that's.
Really that's tweeted that Lunchables tweeted.
Yeah, that's what I hate is like when these companies try to jump on something like relevant happening in the news and be like you can still lunchable.
It's like, yeah, no one ever thought that we couldn't.
Yeah, well we found that with was it Ginger some kind of bear that was like the mascot for the A and W roop Beer. They like jumped on the Eminem's controversy and they were like when Eminem's was like, we have a new spokesperson, it was Maya, but it was like before the Super Bowl, before they before they revealed what they were doing. A and W root Beer was like, we have a new spokesperson too, and it was like the bear was like wearing something different, and it's like, first of all, nobody knew. Nobody knew that an W's like had a bear. You're not on the I don't go oh the an W root beer bear. Like I've never.
Said that I'm feeling thirsty all of a sudden.
Yeah, for you to update your body was like that was their tweet. Was like they were trying to jump on the controversy and be like look at us too.
Yeah.
You know, I can tell the Twitter isn't isn't popular because like even the dunkin Donuts will tweet something and then like Stay Farm Insurance will be like they'll try to say something funny, and that's just like all these people working for these corporations trying to do.
Something, yeah, and no one's really doing that.
You're lucky to work in TV, I tell you that much, because this does not seem like a fun started.
Right, Yeah, the morally pure world of TV. That's so funny that Lunchables is trying to do that.
Yeah, yeah, that's really fun.
Hey, Luis c Ca can still have these.
This is the kind of thing that makes me mad and that now I will check like once a week.
That's Jonah's thing is like Jonah will be like this show I just watch is so stupid, I'm gonna watch the entire season.
Yeah. I did that with a few shows. I did that with Real Rob, Real Rob. Yeah, Real Rob. I watched both seasons of that. And then there's a show with David Spade was on like in the nineties.
Oh, like a three camera sitcom with like a laugh track. Yeah, just shoot me.
Yeah, I thought that was a good show.
Jo I think that was a respected show.
That was a respected show.
There's a few shows like those three camera sitcoms where ten years ago, I would just watch like all a hundred of so like in the course of like week, and it would be this weird project I had to get through, and then at the end I'd be.
Like why did I do this?
Like I just spent like fifteen hours watching this shit, probably the way longer.
What would you feel like as you're watching it, Like would it be like, Okay, I'm like ticking off a box or is it like I'm actually entertained?
Well, I think it was more like ticking off a box, but I think it was also I didn't want to deal. This was when I was like living by myself, and I just like didn't want to deal with like looking for something. I was like, Okay, this is there. I'm just going to pick up. I don't have to think. But yeah, there were a few shows where I would just watch, like the entire syndicated season of a show I had no real enjoyment watching or no attachment to.
I don't think you're alone in that activity. I think a lot of people do that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, maybe not the whole series.
Maybe not.
Yeah, you've never been like I Vanessa, how's it going?
Like?
Jonah, how's it going good? I just watched one hundred episodes of Just Shoot Me over the past month.
You know, I don't know why. I don't know why, but yeah, it's yeah.
And then you kind of notice people who went on to do things later, and that is always fun.
That part is fun.
Yeah, you go, where do I know them from?
Right?
Et cetera. Wow, Well, anyone got any last words about lunchables other than ceo all at the store when we're going to buy them immediately when this is done.
Yeah, I'll see you in that that refrigerator case.
Yeah, I love them. If anyone's curious.
The last thing that's relevant from the articles that when Kendrick Lamar was on tour with Kanye West in Europe, he apparently ate a lot of lunchables. In the New York Times magazine, he said he ate so many of them he didn't want to see another lunchable for a long time. So cool rappers are eating lunchables apparently in Europe. So that's something positive. And I cannot believe that this isn't just the Twitter account, isn't.
Just yeah, just it seems like right up throughout why didn't they pick up on that?
So he said, they don't want any more of this.
But guess what, you can have more?
You can you can yeah, yeah, they would like want to give you permission. It's like, yeah, I know, so yeah. So that's I think that's it. I think that's a great way to end this convo on lunchables.
Wow. What a delight.
Okay, wow, wow wow. Well we're going to take a quick commercial break and we'll be right back with our friend Jeremy Byler. Okay, we're back now, Jeremy. We'd like to play a game with you. We call back to the Present.
We've got to go back to the present.
The name is obviously a hilarious take on the nostalgic Back to the Future franchise.
Great.
In this segment, we each get to say something from our childhood that we wish would come back, so like, it can be a snob, it can be it can be a toy, it can be a TV show. And so we'll go first, so you have some time to think about it. But Jonah, do you want to go first with what you would like to bring back to the present.
Yeah, So I was thinking about this and mine is Jeremy. I do if you remember this, like there was this Did you ever buy like music magazines growing up, like when you were a kid?
No?
No, okay, this was like so you might not remember this. This is the thing in the nineties and it was this company. I think a few companies did it, but there's this company, Rockabilia, and they would basically have these ads where you could order T shirts. The ad would hack of magazines right in the back of magazine or sometimes in the middle, okay, and they would have these really tiny, little like thumbnail pictures of the T shirts. And they would have like two hundred pictures in like these magazines like Hip Parader or Metal Maniacs or some of these magazines, and it would be like all these Metallica Guns n' Roses shirts. And this was a time where it was not easy to find this kind of stuff.
Right because the Internet didn't exist.
Right, right.
So I remember getting like Guitar World or Hipparade or whatever and going through and being like, okay, I would buy stuff. I'd buy like the Metallica Fourfaces shirt, or I would pick out and I just remember sometimes there would be a spread with like two of these ads, and I just I think and just remember just looking at these tiny pictures of these T shirts and just wanting to order them.
And that was like the way you were kind of.
Yoh wow, yeah, look at that.
And they were so small and this was holding up a visual exam. Yeah, Vanessa's holding it up. But that was the way you kind of get like a guns and Roses and Metallica shirt. Like you didn't have hot topic, you couldn't go to the mall, you couldn't you know, jump on the eBay, like this was the way to get it unless you were at like I think, like an actual arena concert. And so I remember ordering stuff and just loving looking at these ads. I'd like to bring it back. I think this actually was pretty cool.
That's really good. That's a good one.
Yeah, thank you so much. But yeah, I definitely ordered stuff from there.
They should bring that back, because there's also something satisfying about like a physical magazine that you then like order things, you interact with it. It's less like, I don't know, it's less like ineffable or something.
It's real.
Yeah, yeah, I agree.
And it used to be you know, like you know, there was a record store in Cleveland that just called Record Revolution and they would have all the T shirts like up on the wall.
Did you ever go to a place like that these colors?
Yeah, yeah, and you know there would just be T shirts all over and I guess that was available at the time that was the equivalent. But there's something about just going somewhere or seeing like pictures of so many and being able to pick the ones you want.
Yeah, that is so cool.
And I worked at a record store and we had that, except they were all pretty sure they were all bootleg shirts. Rockabilly I think they're like officially licensed and they still have a website actually you can go to and you can buy basically all this stuff still, but not as fun.
Don't know what are bootleg shirts.
Bootleg shirt would be like if I just made like a guns n' Rosa shirt and then start just selling it and the band didn't get any of the money from it.
I got it. Yeah, Okay, that's what I thought.
That's honestly a great idea.
Yeah, yeah, we should start doing it for sure, signing guns and Roses shut.
Yeah, we could make bootleg lunchable boot like lunchables. Yeah, you just get some hand cut it into a little.
A really good idea for a restaurant to do that. If any restaurants are doing that and you just you don't have to pay us, just tell us.
I bet you.
There's like a restaurant in Williamsburg that's like making together like an ironic lunchable thing that's like like thirty five dollars and people are taking photos of an Instagram being like it is in this hilarious and everyone's like, oh my god, that's so great.
Oh that's so rich.
I have to go wait in a line to get that.
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah.
And Jenna were you were you kind of impersonating millennials when you said that's so rich.
Yes, so could you tell how little I know. I'm just kidding that you did it.
In sort of an affected voice, so I could tell you were trying to impersonate I.
Was picturing someone very ironic, who is it has a lot of money, probably from a trust fund, who's at this place, like sitting outside or in this lunchable about to post it.
And that's what I think they would say. Yeah, they say that, so rich Vanessa. What's your what's your pick for back to the first time ever?
My pick for back to the present is actually something that I do not want to bring back, Okay, And I know that that's I'm putting a spin. I'm putting it on its head, playing with the rules, but I'm playing with the rules. But I had a memory of this thing, and I was like, I, I actually do think they still exist, but I don't know that they're as popular as they once were. And also my living situation has changed, so I'm not around them anymore. But basically, there were these wooden shoe trees slash like shoe stretchers that our dad used to have in his closet in his like nicer leather shoes. Okay, And I don't know why I would be playing in his closet. Okay, just me in there, nobody's around. I'm just playing with the shoe trees, and they would pinch my fingers so hard. I'm just like, why do we need these? Why do they have to pinch your fingers so much? Sure, Like, why would anyone ever buy these? Like they're also heavy, They're like not user friendly.
What grown man would have something in his shoes that a child can't play with?
I feel like our parents, we had a lot of shoe accessories.
As an adult, I don't have. The other thing was those shoehorn things.
I knew you were going to say that as soon as you said that, yeah, we had all of the we were a big shoehorn asshole.
Yeah.
Like I was like, shoes, you have to put this thing under your heel, and like it's like, why didn't we just have shoes?
I have?
I now I presently have a shoehorn.
Next you do you get it?
Why my husband got it? I don't know.
But it's like really long, and it's like it looks like a cane and you're almost like it's like really intense, but it is for like it's so it's like if you slip your shoes on and off, like even like even like sneakers, and you don't want to like tie and untie them.
Okay, there's a version. I actually don't really use it, but I have.
If the shoes like really tight and I don't want to untie and again, I'll just like, you know, give it a little, give it a little squeeze on, a little.
Pop, and then pop it in. Okay, I'll see you guys later.
But don't shoehorns. That makes sense to me. But in general, it's like shoehorns were so popular when we were kids. I'm just realizing this.
It felt to me we we use them with dress shoes, and it almost felt like it was like using a shoehorn was like part of this formal process of putting on your dress shoes.
Right, it's like what you see you see it in like a in like a fancy hotel next to like the iron.
It's just for like men going to meetings.
Yeah, and keep in mind we probably these were from like payless shoe stores, my little loafers, but yeah, I felt like part of the process.
Well, remember we would go to that shoe store, Allen Shoes or Yeah, like that was like on Chagrin, Yeah, near Corky and Lenny's and stuff, Right, was in that shopping store and yeah, they would always I remember trying on shoes and they'd always have you use a shoehorn. And it's like, what the fuck liked our Did our shoes not fit? And were they soaked?
Like you're a kid, you're gonnaut grow the shoe in like five minutes and what happened?
Why do they not? And but also like why was that such a big thing? Like now I feel like when you go to a shoe store or you know, I'm the most recent shoe store I think I've been to was like the Shoe to apartminent Nordstrom or something, they're not like bringing out shoehorns for you to try.
And show you know what the other thing is. And maybe we should do a whole other episode about shoe stores. Yeah, and this is bringing me back so much to those silver and black things where you'd get your shoe size on, you'd put your foot.
Yeah, it looks very like tortury. It's like it's a little like prison something, a little prison for your sin.
Yeah, yep, yeap.
And they'd kind of put in the sides and like, yeah, like do all these weird measurements did it.
Have to be such hard exist steer metal? They must.
I don't know every shoe store had the same one.
Because I wonder if they still exist for kids, because kids shoes are always like once you're an adult, you go like I need a nine or you know what I mean.
Sure, but if you're a kid, you're they have more user friendly looking ones.
That makes sense that.
It would be just for growing people, not for an adult. It's only when your foot size is changing.
But really it almost.
Something feels like it was a similar aesthetic to like those those scales where we have to move the thing in the middle and the slide.
Yeah, they must be updated. They're probably really cute looking.
There's probably like a digital one where you put your foot in and it just knows your size or something.
I don't know. I don't know about that, but either way, there's probably a way it's those. Probably they're probably not like black and silver anymore and really scary looking. Those could exist, and that could be the reason those are like nostalgic to us is because our feet were growing and we didn't know it as our feet were. You can't say that about shoehorns, Like shoehorns literally were so much more popular in the nineties. I would say, yeah, yeah before right.
I don't know, we do, Like I said, there's one in my house right now. You have, but there's lots of other things that are also probably in my house that are like from another era.
Yeah. Well, and also these shoe trees slash shoe stretchers that I absolutely despise because they would make it very painful for me to play with my dad's shoes. Just climb into the closet and play with the shoes in the dark and then pinch my fingers. Don't love. Don't love that they pinch my fingers? Those still exist?
What did you want to do with them? And you just wanted You were just like, oh, these are fine, sloppy and.
We're intrigued by them.
But then you make it sound like we had no toys growing Yeah, I mean.
Are you familiar with toys?
I think probably happened, because you know, sometimes you remember stuff differently. What I think probably happened is I pinched my fingers on them once, like I was curious, and I pinched my and then every time I would see them in our dad's shoes, I'd be like, these fucking things. But I wouldn't say that because I didn't have that in my vocabulary yet, But you know what I mean.
I would be like, they do have like a pinchy vibe because it's like blocks of wood that go closer together or further apart, so.
There's like a it's like a yeah, that's not a toy for a little girl.
It's not a toy. Those things are not toys, and I don't want them back. But I would take I guess I would take shoehorns. But I again, I see why you use them to your and it's actually incredible that you have one and you can explain how you use it.
I don't really use it. I think I just have it.
It just is so shocking that that was such a popular thing that has gone away, and why did we need it? Why did it feel so necessary?
Then it feels like something from like the nineteen thirties or something.
Ye, yeah, it really does. Jeremy, if you went to your husband and you were like, I'm thinking maybe we should get rid of the shoehorn, how do you think that would go down?
I think it would honestly be a disaster.
Do you think he uses a lot?
No, I don't see him using it that much either. I feel like it's like for like I guess now I'm realizing maybe it's more for like certain shoes that are like much right, yeah, right, like if you I mean, he does have a lot of pairs of shoes. So that's probably why it would be a disaster for my marriage to try and get rid of shoehorn, because I think there are probably certain shoes where he would be like I need.
This for that fair enough?
Wow, But me, I think I could manage with most of my shoes without one.
Okay, yeah, okay, okay, all right, Well, great pick, Vanessa Jeremy. Has there anything kind of come to your mind for this topic?
For some reason, I want to say the color teal?
Yeah, okay, I don't know why.
Like for me the nineties, well, it was between yes and Rockapella, which was from my list, which but anyway, yes, I'll go with teal because it feels like, well, two things are coming to mind. One is I actually for my class picture in like seventh grade, I had a teal, like a bright teal filk button down shirt that was unbuttoned, two buttons, and then I had a silver chain with it with an arrowhead.
Wow, that was my incredible.
And the color teal, I mean really like strong. You don't see it that much. It had a moment I would say, like in the nineties teal Like, yeah, there was like that. Remember the of the couch and the show Martin, Yes, that's the teal that I'm talking about.
I mean I remember the couch. I can't say I remember the color that well. I should look it up. It was teal, right, it makes me want I bet, I bet?
But then I also my theme for my bar mitzvah was teal and purple. Okay, so we had teal and purple balloons. So that's I don't know why I was as I was thinking.
What brings me joy?
What brought me joy historically in my life? It's that color, But I don't it's not in my life anymore.
Do you remember getting well, first of all, you got to change that, you got to get some teal in your life, right, And second of all, do you remember like getting dressed and getting ready for your school photo where you wore that teal silk shirt.
I don't really remember getting but you know what I think what I remember is it was an outfit that it was a little bit of a go to outfit, like if I was going to like try to like ask a girl to a dance or something, Yeah, like that's what I would wear. There's like a little confidence booster, a little confidence booster, a little bit of like yeah I can, I can.
It's throw down.
It's a teal silk shirt. You unbutton the top two buttons, and you wear an arrowhead What was the arrowhead neck? Was it like on a leather I'm just trying to envision this.
It was on a silver chain, and I want to say it was just barely not a choker.
It was really very pretty embarrassing.
Yeah yeah, very had to kind of shoehorn your neck into it or something.
Yeah, exactly, I had to use a shoehorn.
Jonah. Also, I mean that was a really big thing kind of in the mid early nineties where these very silky shirts that a lot of boys I remember would wear.
Yeah, yeah, there was that, And there was also I feel like like it wouldn't be out of place for someone to have like a shark tooth necklace, like yep, I'm.
Just exactly that was the vibe. It was like it was in the Puka Shell family. Sure, yeah, yeah.
I feel like when we were kids and we used to go to Palm Island, there was like this general store there when we used to go to Florida, and they had all that kind of stuff, and I remember that was like my main source of jewelry was like shark tooth necklace or like earrings that were too sand dollars or yes, yes.
Like found natural items.
Yes, yes, beach where Oh my gosh, yeah, gotta certain.
I'm certain that whatever my little chain was in my necklace, I'm certain that it was like under ten dollars. Whatever it was, it was like not like yeah, it was like aluminum probable.
Well yeah, but still incredibly chic. Now, can I ask the colors of your bar mitzvah were teal and purple? Did you have a theme on top of it?
So? There wasn't There wasn't a theme. It was just like what do you want to do with this?
And I was like, well, I want these two colors together, I want the balloons to be these two colors, and the tablecloths and like all that kind of stuff.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Jonah, do you remember what the colors at You're also you didn't have a theme, but the colors I think were I have no idea blue and white maybe or something that's right. Yeah, but I do you remember this, Jonah that, like you, Jeremy's talking about how he kind of dictated what he wanted. You sort of took a step back and you didn't want to be involved. And then I remember right before your barmitzvah, you were like, do you remember this?
I know what you're going to say. I only remember the second hand.
Okay, that you were like really upset. You were like really wanting control over like the choices that had.
Been I remember being I've heard that I was upset about the invitation specifically.
I think that's what it was.
Wow, But I think the invitation was just one of these very kind of formal, like big scripty traditional invitations, and maybe you know, I don't know, but yeah, I think I was pretty hands off and you were like.
This invitation is not like cool enough, it's too like.
It was a pretty like classic Yeah, it was a classic classic invite. But yeah, probably it was.
A serious looking invitation for Yeah.
Probably all this work into like setting up and designing it, and I was like a thirteen year old kid thing like I hate this, but I don't really remember.
That year old. Man.
Oh that was such a big thing too. Do you remember picking out the invitation, like going to like the store where they have the invitations and that was such a hard I.
Don't because I didn't, apparently, but but maybe you did.
I don't remember that.
I wonder if well, I remember, I think going I must have gone for yours, Jonah, because we we just printed mine, because I just had that whirly ball party right.
Right, Oh my god, you had a worly ball party. Yes, that's fun. That's a great idea.
It was a great idea well because I got but Mitzman and Israel and then I remember making the invitation was at the peak of me thinking that our dad, I mean, I still think our dad is very funny, but I think he really weighed in on this. There was like some kind of photo of me or something on it. We made it on the computer. It was like when Wow. Processing was sort of like print shop problems. Print shop. Yeah, but we said like Vanessa's having a whirlyball party whatever, and it was like will you attend? And the options we made be funny, like we made them be like, yes, of course, I absolutely love Vanessa, or like no, I actually stink or something like that. I can't remember exactly what they were, but I remember just being like, Okay, I'm about to absolutely drop a bomb on everyone, and they're gonna think of the coolest person in the world, like I really And I think they were orange with like black type on the like I.
Can, oh, that's great.
Oh my gosh.
I remember those print shop It was like you could design the borders so you could like make.
Flowers or definitely remember that, yeah, yeah, and like you could add clip art and stuff.
You could add clip art.
My favorite was it you could also print out banners like oh.
My god, printing out banners, Oh my.
God, right on like matrix yeah, dot matrix, and then you just would keep the paper like attacked.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yes. The thing that was so cool about it was it felt like you were actually creating products sure, Like you were like, I don't have to go to a store and buy a band. I'm creating a banner in my very own home. It's like a It was like the first three D.
Printer from absolute fucking scratch.
Yes, that is my mind.
Yeah, I want to change my thing from teals print shop.
I do too.
I think you might need to do like the three of us, like a separate print shop.
Making Yeah, we have to. Making those banners was literally the coolest thing in the world.
Yeah, or the other thing. And this is the last thing I'll say about print shop is making cards. And then you would fold them over.
Oh that's right, and you fold them in four.
Yeap over and then yeah like half then again yeah, and then you'd have your own card again.
Like I don't need to go to the store. I just made my own card.
Give somebody a beautiful, flimsy printer paper card.
Yeah, like a cake, like a weird blockie cake.
I have a gift shop in my home that creates banners, cards, signs.
Yeah.
Wow, Okay, we're gonna have to save this for literally, like I feel like I'm on, I feel like I'm buzzing, Like I'm like I just frank espresso or something. I'm so excited about.
This print shop is your cocaine, Jeremy.
This has been so much fun.
Oh my god, I can't.
Believe it's over. But we'll have to do it again.
Thank you so much for having me and letting me spend time with both.
Thank you so much. Where can people find you?
Oh?
Well, I'm in New York, So if anyone is flying to New York, hit me up.
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't really, I'm kind of not really looking much at my.
Social media, but I do have it. I have the Instagram and I signed up for Twitter once Elon Musk took over. I just want to support.
Him, right right, right, right right. You were one of the ones that joined once.
He's like, okay, now I'm ready.
Yeah, you're on Twitter, Blue, I believe.
Also, yeah, yeah, in those fees everything, jo Dollar, Well, that was so much fun. Jeremy, thanks so much, Thank you so much for joining us. Thank you so much. Thank you, and then everyone you joining us, And if you like this week's episode, please this time to the podcast and keep an it for next week's episode of How Did We Get Weird? We would discuss more stories from our childhood and cultural touchstones like lunchibles. Thank you, Jeremy, thank you,
