The Best of the Best “Hold Up” Debates!

Published Apr 27, 2023, 7:01 AM

On this special compilation episode of Hold Up, we’re featuring Josh and Dulcé’s most contentious debates from this season. Tune in for the best moments from “Chicken Soup vs. Tomato Soup,” “Summer vs. Winter,” and a clip from a special Beyond the Scenes episode featuring our very own Josh and Dulcé!

 

Hold Up will be back next week with an all-new episode!

 

#DailyShow #HoldUp #Podcast

 

Click here for Dulcé’s tour dates: dailyshow.com/dulcesloan

Click here for Josh’s tour dates: dailyshow.com/joshjohnson

There was no reason for the war for independence. They could have just been like, why are you talking? If England wanted just acted right and been like, yo, you're right. Y'all been over here about two hundred some of my years. We ain't really been helping with this taxation, with our representation. You know what we should Let y'all go on about your business.

This aile.

Hello, friends, welcome to hold up. It's me, don't say Sloan of course, finding for the Daily Show? What are the hosts of this hre podcast?

And I'm here with Josh Johnson right for the Daily Show and the other host of this podcast.

Now we're getting ready to wrap up the season, but before we do, we want to give y all the highlight reel. Okay, we're gonna give you a highlight rule of me proving Josh wrong. You understand. Here's a clip from Chicken Soup Versus Tomato Soup where Josh decides to be inclusive and then he takes things too damn fall. Chicken soup. Mm hmm, you put a little crackers and you're done. Tomato soup, Yeah yeah, Mado soup always has an accessory and is it a companment tomato soup is tomato soup is what gave us the soup and the sandwich. Now that type will say when you go somewhere and they're like soup and a sandwich is like a combo meal because it's like, goofy lunch place, huh if you do. I went to a lunch place that did soup in the sandwich as a meal right as a lunch special, and it did not have tomato soup as an option. I was like, you're doing this wrong. You know what, It's all the way wrong. You're living life wrong. I don't need violence, that is violence. I don't need a minnestroani and a Postromi. I don't need eenies together. Okay, you need if you're going to be soup and a sandwich, you gotta have a tomato soup. But also this question when it comes to that, you were talking about the different the ways that people do chicken soup and it's too.

Open, right, Okay, yeah.

How do you feel about now they're starting to do more of a rustic style tomato soup. How do you feel about the rustic tomato soup? I'm talking about your big pieces of herbs. Okay, I'm talking about your large chunks tomato.

To me, just speaking for myself, it's a personal taste thing. The more rustic something gets, the more dirty it is in my mind. So the same way that you were talking about New York apartments and how sometimes there's exposed brick and blah blah blah, I'm actually on your side on that thing. I don't like when someone didn't finish a building and they act like they finished a building, Like, I'm like, bitches, then make it all that means I'm outside inside. If the brick is exposed, that means you have sold me outside and I am currently outside inside.

You put walls around outside, and now it's.

Like when they started building those little outdoor like we couldn't go on restaurants during COVID in New York, and then started putting those little buildings on the park and like in the street, and everyone's like, this is inside outside. Yeah, you're telling me that it's not safe to be in there.

Barely better, you know.

But they were like, oh, but there's like open air. But then when wintertime hit, you put sides on it because it was cold, and then put heaters in the bitch. So now you're just incubating covid.

Yeah, and rats, the rats of the outdoor dining. So here's the thing, Because we have to wrap up soon, I'm just gonna swing for the fences.

I'm just gonna say it.

Any any liquidy tomato I will count as tomato soup.

So you don't mind the rustic style as long as as long as there's still a lot of Because I've had rusty tomato souper. It's just like, bitch, this is just a bunch of chunky tomatoes and a little bit of liquid.

So yeah, I'm I'm gonna go out on limb right now. I don't know if this helps or hurts my point. I don't know what the audience is gonna feel, but I really want to win, and so I'll say right now that tomato soup. If we're really bringing chicken noodle soup up against tomato soup, that counts everything.

I say talking marianeras.

Wait wait wait.

Wait wait wait, you're saying any liquid.

Tomato tomato is tomato soup.

All right, Sausa, you're counting salsa.

As tomato soup. Let's do it, okay, So.

Any tomato based anything.

Tomato soup, catchup, tomato soup, cocktail sauce, tomato soup, tomato soup, the spot, choke, tomato soup, pray Go, ragu tomato soup.

Marin aira sauce is tomato.

Souit tomato soup. So I'm just throwing it out there because sometimes.

If you saw somebody open a jar of ragu pasta.

Sauce, yeah, yeah, so you're saying.

Tomato paste is tomato soup. So if someone opens a can of ragou, yeah, pasta sauce, okay, throws it in a bowl, yeah, heats it up.

Tomato soup, tomato soup.

So I am saying because I feel like I feel like in the last episode with the diners versus the waffle house, what ended up happening because I.

Gotta eat the live by the way, Yeah yeah.

No, but you mainly got eating liveout. I was like you would trying to eat steak in a waffle house. That's why you got eaten alive.

No no, no, no no, I got eaten alive basically because in the end, my mistake was that I didn't include every diner like thing that was not waffle house, So then there were even people if my combs did, but if my bitch.

And stuff like that, being like, all right.

Look, since Denny's and Shone's and all this stuff it't included. We're just talking mom and pop. I'm gonna have to go waffle house, and I'm like, damn. So basically I did make a good point, but if I had been more inclusive, maybe people would have seen it my way, which is why now, hey, everything is tomato soup. We're going all tomato soup. Okay, I will not lose again.

And do you think by saying that ketchup is tomato soup you're gonna win.

I'm just saying, what if somebody had to give up ketchup just to have tomato soup, maybe maybe they lead to the dark side.

Maybe they'd be off, baby, baby, maybe they be with me.

No one is listen, no one's dipping French fries and tomato soup, and no one is dipping grilled cheese and ketchup unless of your you're over the age of six. So like, I can't this, you can't make this, you can't make this choice.

I'm just saying, because here's the thing. When you when you talk chicken soup, versus tomato soup. I'm already at a slight disadvantage because there's some cultures, like you said, that don't really do tomato soup, they definitely do chicken soup. I have to bring more tools into the arsenal.

To stack up. Even I can admit that.

These are not the tools that you need. You have brought dental tools to a construction site.

Okay, you know what the you know what that? How about this? How about this?

Why are you choosing this is I don't even know if this isn't even violence. I don't know if this choice even fucking is.

How about this?

If y'all love chicken soup so much, no more tomatoes for anybody.

You act like I did not get whooped in the Vacation Staycation episode. The number of people that were trying to call me elitist, okay, because I said, leave your fucking house. All I said was leave your house. Call the fuck. I said, Well, you don't know how much money people have? No, I don't, And that's not the fucking point. And if you don't have the money to go on vacation, why the fuck are you talking to me? I'm not talking to you I'm not.

Talking to you.

I will say you made a good point for waffle houses. I was. I was impressed at your waffle house fight that you put up.

But I also from Atlanta. I also grew up in the city that is the location of the headquarters of waffle House. I grew up in across Georgia. Google waffle House. Their headquarters was around the corner from my house.

And you and look, you did them proud.

But what ended up happening with me is I got to eat a live because I didn't. I didn't open up the options all right, but I do.

Think you're opening them the wrong way. Like it makes sense to include a Denny's and a diner because they're doing the same thing. To include ketch up with tomato.

Soup, it's just a question of consistency.

It's just a question because there's some tomato soups, like you said, they couldn't get the consistency right.

So now you're drinking a bowl of ketchup.

No, it never goes ketchup. It can be Marianera mm hmmm mm hmm, but it's never ketchup'. I'm worried about you. I'm worried about you the thing you you're thinking of. You're not thinking about the logic. You're thinking about the wind. Okay, you think about the wind. You're not doing it from your wart. Okay, look, you're not doing it at all. If you need it, the open listener, if you need it, open, it's open, all right. If you don't need it open.

Believe you believe you, I believe in me.

No, negro, you don't believe that ketchup is fucking tomato soup because you would not walking to your Christian home that you have made with your girlfriend and your dog and squeeze a ball a hinds ketchup, uh huh, squeeze catch up into a ball and hit it up with and the godless soup. You wouldn't do it. You wouldn't fucking do it. So don't look. Don't look me in my college educated American Christian face here on our gores internet machine, and tell me that you even believe in the bottom of your heart, in your heart, that you for the do this. Don't you get off this hill, go to flat land. You have built a heel out of tomatoes and it is not working. You sound wild the fuck do you mean anything tomato based tomato soup. What it's like saying everything pasta is spaghetti.

How about it that.

He chose violence, he chose bace.

This is the wildest fucking thing I've ever heard you. I can't stop cutting this man. So so I'm not doing this with chicken soup. Chicken soup, chicken soup.

Okay, I've made my my mind defits my my I rest.

Here's my Oh for ee, lame me, leave me.

That's what you brought me to. I had to take these choices to the king. That's what you did to me. That's what you did to me. I had delay him at the throng. Leave me there alone to gaze upon Josh's bad decisions, because this nigga had lost his damn mind talking about having a hot bowl ketchup. I'm worried about you, Josh because if you.

Feel like, don't worry about me, don't worry about me. He got me. We're children of the same Lord, all right.

He got me children to say, God, I hear you, I hear you, Brother in Christ. Wow, Joshua loves be getting strong and wrong. You know what, most y'all have grinds, and he's doing I have to break you hear a little bit from me and Josh's debate of the best time of the year, summer versus then too.

Welcome back, y'all. I mean, this episode is more of a clip show, you know, because every good show has a clip show. It's not really about me being wrong and all this stuff of like, oh, you're right and I'm wrong and all.

But it is good that we do have clips put together. People in production have proven that you're wrong. People that listen to this podcast ed of this podcast is gone, Wow, Josh is wrong a lot. And then someone on the other side was like, you know what, let's really find a way to express this to the people.

Well, you know what, you know we're gonna do. We're gonna move on to another clip from another another episode. We're gonna do summer versus Winter. And I was right making sentient points.

I'm team Summer because it's you're out and about, you're seeing people. It's just the ability to it doesn't even have to be like a big trip like people are going to day trips. You could just be in a park. You can just sit in a park and enjoy your day. You can have a couple of nibbles, you know, a couple of nibbles, maybe some boobuli, maybe some IPAs. Whatever you and like enjoying. When you're out enjoying a nice day, you can just do that. It's easier to do things, and just getting groceries is easier in the summertime, Getting doing laundry is easier. Just running an errand is easier in the summertime because you're not out here looking like the kid from a Christmas story.

This is I understand where you're coming from, because a lot of the things that you're saying makes sense for you. As long as I've known you, all these things have been have been true. So I get why you lean towards summer. But there are just certain things that Hey, you're not having hot chocolate when it's hot outright.

Okay, that's a beverage. I'm talking sitting in the park.

No, no, no, no, I still I still say. There are plenty of activities that you can go do in the winter. There's a whole winter Olympics for people that love the winter.

All right, okay, but what about if you live somewhere that gets cold mm hmm, but doesn't always snow like Atlanta, for instance, people do not know because somebody gave Atlanta to some white people in a fucking building, gave Atlanta this nickname of Hotlanta, and people think that it's hot year round, which is not true. In Atlanta, will get down on the teens.

I thought it was called Hotlanta because of the people.

No, that was marketing bullshit.

Wow, okay, because.

When it came out, we all went the fuck, we didn't vote for this, and they put it on everything.

Yeah.

Yeah, and now every corny ass person I've ever met zaca, So you're from Hotlanta. No, bitch, I'm not. I'm not from a marketing campaign. None of us enjoy All of us saw it and are like, this is gonna be a fucking problem. Like no one's running around like New York. No New York is like, yeah, I'm from the Big Apple, Like, no one's doing this, No one is doing that. I'm not running around them calling the peach safe. I think for me, the things that I enjoy doing the most are during my favorite season. So because I enjoy an out an aquatic activity, right, you can't be in nobody's swimming pool when it's forty degrees outside when your pool is probably frozen somewhat. It's cold as shit. Yeah, cold enough to kill you.

This one is important to have friends with indoor pools.

Yeah sure, as long as as I can do. A lot of hotels like up North, a lot of them I have indoor pools or heated pool So it's like, I can't say this summer summer of twenty twenty two. I kept seeing it. I go Instagram and was like, yo, this summer left like it had somewhere to be. I thought it was just me. I looked up and was like, bitch, is this September?

Yeah?

Yeah, well it was not very quick.

And I thought it was just your girl. But everyone else looked up in my life, oh fork about wearing a jacket. It was it's been and she's she flew the fucking coop bills to pay.

And she was upset before she left because those were some heat waves.

I couldn't even sit outside it was hot, because I was like, I love sitting outdoors, but also I know that New York is hot? Wrong, what do you mean? I was talking to to tell you late about this, and he completely understood. Okay, listen, So uh huh. First of all, it's building hot. It's not nature hot, right, Okay, So, like, I remember a couple of years ago, I was supposed to this thing called Ausie Fest and they canceled it because of the heat. And I called my other who grew up in Miami and is the most of her adult life in the Great Stand of Georgia, as you can see on my nicholas, And so I was like, Mommy, they canceled this comedy show because of a heatwave. She said, girl, how hot was it? One hundred and five one hundred, one hundred five? How hot was it? I said, Mommy, it was gonna be ninety four degrees And we laughed for ten minutes.

Yeah.

Yeah, because in the South we would have whole outdoor festivals, whole fucking barbecues, and it'd be ninety four degrees outside. Why because it's nature hot. And we got enough watermelon out here to keep everybody alive. Okay, sit that baby in the shade, Come get some of these ribs. We're gonna have a good day. Okay. We got enough cold drinks out here, enough coke and that is any carminated beverage. We got enough water, We got enough, We got enough sweet tea out here to keep everybody the fuck a lot. You remember, right, you grew up Louisiana and up here. First of all the number of places that do not have air conditioning because they love to call the self ignorant, but we have figured out HVAC. They want to call us alf kind of backwards and barefoot and stupid or whatever, these Yankee baskets, but we have figured out how to cool a home. Okay, uh huh. The fact that my other apartment I had to have a window unit as a grown adult, and I couldn't control and I couldn't control my heat came on, which was also truly fucking disrespectful. I'll pay you American dollars with a comma in the bitch. Yeah, I got a whole apartment and my heat just come home when you say so. So now I'm just in here, wearing the least time to figure out to take my fucking skin off because it's hotter and a bitch in here because somebody, because you know, Dino, don't turn the fucking heat on. It ain't asthma back. So I'm a summertime gale. Because your best family get to gifts out here in this summer time right. Also, my birthday is the ultimate summertime gig. Yeah, my birthday is July fourth. Wait, Josh, when's your birthday?

March sixth?

I don't know.

I don't really bring it up.

White a minute, White a minute, White a minute, Josh Jabbadiah Johnson, How dare Oh?

Yeah, I just let it, you know what I mean. I think that for me, I truly understand what you're saying.

I'm not saying summer doesn't have a lot of amazing merits to it.

My con with summer is the heat waves.

And you're saying that New York is hot, wrong, But isn't California having the same sort of concrete heat issue.

California, first of all, is a desert. That's the main thing.

Yeah, they don't have water.

Yeah, And I mean the thing is they put that there, which is very confusing that they even did that.

Yeah.

I think at the time it was cheap land and so then they built there.

Oh that makes sense. I mean it's not probably the best.

No, it's not. It's not a great idea long term.

So, like I've lived in La during the heat. This is the weird thing about being in La in a heat wave. There was one day where it was one hundred and eight degrees and then the sun went down and it was seventy degrees yeah, And I was like, how do you not catch your death in this bitch? Because I've been in Georgia and it's been ninety two degrees at two o'clock in the morning. The sun hasn't been out for hours and it's still not in the nineties.

Yeah, but the temp has sense enough to regulate right the regular.

So like La bounces around. Because that was a weird thing. When I first moved there, I was like, Okay, you know it's it's it's not it's eighty five degrees out here. We are here looking cute, and then at nighttime it'll be sixty five. I was like, Oh, that's why everybody in this pitch I always has a jacket with them.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's very confusing, and then when you get there, you're like, oh, I get it. So that's why everyone's closed out here. Don't make any sense, yeah, because once the sun goes down, you don't know what the hell temperature it's going to be. But it's like your most fun activities are there in the summertime also, and I hate supper. Also. You enjoy snowboarding, you enjoy to boggining, you enjoy skiing.

It's not about snowboarding or skiing, all right, It's about having like a nice nature walk in the winter. If I'm in the woods, it's cold.

It's thirty degrees outside, go inside.

What do you mean? People act like you can't gear up for the winter.

You could be You could be so comfortable if you just gear up for the for the temperature in a heat wave that you can't take off the skin, you can take off everything, but you be naked.

And still hot, all right. But in winter you gear up enough and you're just comfortable until you.

Go inside somewhere and then you're sweating your life away. Because that's the other thing about the winter time.

Is that, oh okay, all right. The other thing about the water time is.

It's so hot indoors because I think not everybody's fucking everybody's out regulating this ship, right right, So like I got on this sweat because like that's why I learned to where winter on the outside and summer on the inside. Because you'll see somebody have like a full thick ass whatever. A cable knit is what the kids say, thick ass cable nit sweater, right, and they look cozy. Yeah, but now they've come inside a building, and the building it's set to hell. Right. I've been inside of bars that was too hot. When I was a minute in Indiana over the weekend. Everywhere we went inside was too warm. It was too warm. It wasn't cold enough outside for as warm as it was inside. Right, And so because the jacket that I brought was the coat that I brought a coat, I should have brought a jacket. Right in New York, you're like, okay, light jacket, jacket, coat cool. So it's like there's there's levels where it's just like, you know, they got a jacket. I got a light jacket right running around, but d d d da da dadh Okay, let me let me het a coat. Okay. Now, let me call north face, let me get goose down involved. Okay. I had to bring animals as reinforcement because I'm fucking freezing. I mean, you know, you've seen my coats. They're they're warm, they're very much warm. But so it's like you have to have so many there's hats and scarves and boots and gloves, and then then you gotta have salt for the snow, because like, this is the thing I will give you. This snow is pretty mm hmm the first two days, and then it needs to go the fuck on. Snow needs to find it, Snow needs to know. Snow doesn't know when to leave.

Snow doesn't know when to leave.

Okay, snow show up.

They'd be like, hey, y'all, the first snow is very cute. It's nice, it's cute, it's quiet. Yeah, you know, but too much snow shut your fucking city down. Okay, remember the bomb cyclone that hit New York in twenty eighteen, because this was.

Not that crazy. If it was a bomb cyclone, why.

Did they call it a bomb cyclone if it wasn't.

So crazy because they were getting too hyped.

It was just a fucking blizzard. We already had a word for a bunch of snow showing the fuck up.

That that's kind of where I was where I was, like, I heard bomb cyclone even I was like, a, this may be too much snow, like maybe maybe we're in for it, right, but then it hit and it maybe it's because I lived in Chicago for a while, but it hit and it wasn't like all that wild.

Ye, your barometer is different Chicago.

Chicago is egregious, like Chicago.

They called it Shiberia that one year because the lake almost froze over.

That's a big ass let.

It's a huge lake.

And then isn't that lake the sky view?

You see how far out of the shoreline that it froze. And I was like, oh, yes, this is this is actually too cold?

Is that Lake Michigan?

Uh?

Lets me see which lake is.

That you lived there for years and don't know.

I wasn't really paying attention, negro. Let me see one second.

One second, hold on, I can look it up in a moment.

Not a huge deal. Nobody freak out?

No, what's freaking out? I'm just saying it.

Everybody comed down.

Yeah, this Lake Michigan.

Yeah, Lake Michigan.

Why do you not know that?

Because you know it's a it's a great lake. So I would just say the great lake.

You would just not pick the lake.

I just would pick the lake. I'd be like, you know, a great lake right over there.

Because there's Lake Michigan. There's eerie, there's here, m h uh, which, what's so it's the fucking superior, which I think is you know, being just a little full of yourself. What's this other bitch called Ontario?

You've never met him? You never met him.

Maybe it is superior, Maybe it is, maybe it ain't. I don't know. I don't work here. What I'm saying is, Chicago is the fact that you even survived. Like one of my friends, who's a thin man, moved to Chicago a couple of years ago, and I was really worried about him. I was like, you're gonna have to get ankle weights. He was like why, I said, cause the wind has a name. You're gonna get blown down the street like tumbleweed. So you're Nigerian, not made for this. You're not made for that. We're not even supposed to be here, Like you know the joke that I have on my half hour I talk about like black people were not supposed to be here because we're not supposed to be here. Bro, this ain't this, ain't this ain't snow hair. That's why I don't trust these Yankee niggas because they'd be out here like yo, I fucked with snow like no, no, no, just to get your jeans. Nigga just doesn't make no sense. You can't trust these Yankees. You cannot trust these snow niggas. You can't. No, it's beautiful for two days and then it shuts your fo Snow is great, and then you know what happens in New York. This is what happens in New York. You just watch the layers of snow and just the amount of dog shit that shows up and all this other like you're just watching trash show up. Is what happens when snow melts in New York. Okay, dirty snow, yellow, just ice, just to snow.

Like.

That's why I was when that bomb cyclone hit. I was like, this is a blizzard. Why are we not calling this a blizzard? This is just a bunch of fucking snow. Yes, I'm fully aware that summertime maybe the time of the hurricane. I'm aware hurricane season starts in August and runs until about what October. Remember, look, so technically.

Fall it could be fall's fault. I'm not stressing. I'm not stressing that summer is hurricane season or anything. All I'm saying is that the heat wave I'd be interested in what kills more people? Is it the heat wave or is it the potential blizzards?

And I can tell you that in a lot of states, you are not allowed to cut people's gas or power off in the wintertime. It was funny. I used to work with this power company in Florida years ago and there was a big freeze that happened in Florida. Remember the year we didn't have any tomatoes, Like every like fast with the places like we ain't got a tomatoes. There's a big freeze in Florida. The price of oranges shot up, and the price of in tomatoes were fucking gone. The price of oranges shot the fuck up because it was a huge freeze in Florida. And like I the last time that was a big freeze in Florida, I was living in Florida, and to see people in Miami who have never felt forty degrees have to deal with forty degrees was a wild thing. But you're not allowed to cut people's So people were calling and like, hey, you're not allowed to turn my power off. It's the wintertime and it's freezing. And I was like, well, ma'am, technically that's not a law in your state, I said, because it's never been cold enough to pass that law.

So it's not Yeah, it's cold enough to kill you.

Right, we're turning your lights off. Your lights are already off. I'll try, But technically this law does not apply to you because you don't live in Detroit.

Okay.

I mean, if you want to miss out on how great winter is, that's you. That's your life. That's your choice.

It happens every year, and I suffer.

All right, Well, look what we're gonna do next. We're gonna take things away from our show for a second. We're gonna go to another show in the Daily Show podcast universe. We're gonna go beyond beyond the scenes ooh with Uncle Roy, with Roywood, junior correspondent for The Daily Show, host of that podcast. He's gonna walk us through some of the behind the scenes between you and I and how this show came to be.

And we're bad friends not in things off. Here's a special clip from the behind the scenes episode where Josh and I made a guest appearance. We go deeper into our podcast and we get Roy's input on our very first debate, Conscious Wrap versus Club Bangers and Uncle Roy takes the time to really delve deep into this and really help me help josh And when we come to the conclusion that knuck if You Buck is a modern day may grow spiritual.

Act like you've been somewhere before I've been. The song is all right, whatever, whatever, it's fine, let's let's get into it.

I think I'm into this podcast. And this is the type of stuff y'all gonna be debating on the hold Up podcast. I think I see where you all going with this because I feel like I'm getting educated about something that I shouldn't even give a damn about. But now I'm fully invested, because josh if you're using violence as a metric to decide whether or not the song should be an anthem, our very old star spangled banner, bombs bursting in air, bombs the rockets, red glare, bombs bursting in air gave proof through the night that our flag was still there.

They just described warfare, Joshua.

How different is that line?

Hmm?

Are you what we hear and knocking you book?

Are you asking me or are you telling me how that's a war for independence versus a war for no reason? No?

If these niggas got problem. Violence is violence. Baby. You came over.

Here, bro, there was no reason for the violence and knuck if you bucked to us.

There was no violence. There was no reason for the war for independence. They could have just been like, why are you talking? If England wanted just acted right and been like, yo, you're right. Y'all been over here about two hundred some of my years. We ain't really been helping with his taxation, with our representation. You know what, we should let y'all go on about your business. We should really, you know what, We're across a whole We're across the whole ocean.

There's there's there's no way, there's there's no have to fight for. You have to fight a loaded this.

This crime, ob says, and I quote hm, and we negroes be the hardest. So if a negro come and run his mouth just like an h O, punch him dead up in his nose and stump his ass down to the flow.

Now and bucking and ready to.

Fight, how was that different than gave proof through the night that our flag was still there?

Josh wow, oh wait, wait, wait the question.

He's the one, she's the one that Oh my god, how is this happening right now.

This is crazy. I'm being gastolt. I'm actually being gasolt.

Asked.

How are you asking me?

Why why my thing is different than the There's no reason for any of the fights and knuck if you buck. There's literally reasons that we're a country right now.

Listen, it's a country that's been trying to kill us the whole time, when it was fighting for independence, when they wrote, when they wrote the constitution, it was a building that slaves built and women couldn't even talk. Okay, so explain to me. Listen in the words a mob wife dreaded a vanto. Okay. People always want to say violence is not the answer, but it is.

Okay, okay, okay, okay, let me tell you so.

In the scenario of the Americas becoming a country, all right, In the scenario of the states, the colonies formed together to build.

Up a constitution at a union, all right.

They felt they needed to fight and oppress regime from abroad that was taxing them without actually keeping their best interests in mind. So they're contributing over there while the others are contributing over here.

So haters who were coming for they cheese got it keep going right.

No, no, no, you don't think.

The Britain laters on the.

Sunshine we had let them finish, d let them finish.

You're right, you're right.

The crime and the violence that's being called for and enacted in Knock if You Buck is against an unknown party for an unknown reason. No, no, no, there's one line that's like, okay, if they come over here acting like whatever, then we must realiate.

We welcome to the floor.

But in the other scenarios and the other lyrics, even in the chorus, I don't I don't think that any of this has to happen.

The song is called knuck if You Buck, because if you are going to come.

At us, you better be prepared.

You better be prepared. So the whole time they just live in a lives mine, in a business and then someone came over there messing with them. There's a whole point of the song knuck if you buck. If you come over here acting a fool, if you acted a donkey, being squirrely, jumping stupid, if you come over here acting a fool, I'm gonna be forced to defend myself.

Here's my question to you, Josh, why does every spiritual have to be warm and loving for too long as a race accepting mistreatment. At some point you have to let people know that you're not. You have to show people how you want to be treated. You got to learn people. As my mama Joyce would say, Prime Mob said, and I quote Josh, you'll be jawless getting close to me. Bullets busting, constantly, ravaging your city streets, broken bones lay alone, scattered across the concrete and the land of the fat.

Can't I can't believe that all this is turd dog like I'm the only one. I'm not saying that every spiritual has to be the same. I'm not saying there's some uniform. I'm just saying that, like when you look at everything that goes into a spiritual, none of it is this.

It's just all about struggle, you understand. It's about the struggling. It's about struggle. It's about getting through struggle. So you out in the club, manya business right, and it's somebody's and now you throwing boths like Johnny Cage. You just came to have a good time, drink over priced Hennessy in a tiny cup. You know what this has to do with the fact that Josh said to me one day that knuck if you buck sounds like a ged being thrown down the hallway of a juvenile attention center.

And tell me what part of that is wrong?

First of all, elitist, okay, elitist.

Regular high school is not elitist.

So let me let me ask you all about.

This.

Listen, they've been through a couple of things. It's gonna get scrashed off the record when they turn seventeen. Anyway, they just try and just trying to get an education. Josh, why was that?

What are you almost looking forward to podcast series?

I'm I'm looking forward to making a sentient point at it being appreciated. I'm looking for it to maybe, I don't know, just throwing them out there and that's not that crazy.

And then it's actually, why do you received?

We hear you, but you're getting rebuttals to things, and it's just like you're like, wow, how am i the non sensqual one? Listen, America was born of violence? Okay, America is born of violence. It's been violent the entire time. They killed everybody when they got here. They're still killing us now. So if there's just a song that's like, hey man, listen, if you come over here, start and shit, you might lose a jaw. What is wrong with that?

Okay?

Look, whether we're talking food or seasons or music, there's always something for Doucy and how to debate about. And we want to thank you for rocking with us this whole season and throughout this episode. If you're listening to this, you made it to the end. And the next episode is gonna be wild, wild, wild, because it's gonna be the YouTube comments episode. We're reading through your comments.

Yeah, we look at them.

We're ready for your comments, I mean, or what you said. Listen. I know that I've said this podcast many times. I don't read YouTube comments because I like having self esteem. But so what I did is I put my personal feelings aside, dump to look through and see where to love go, where to love be, and come to find out y'all.

Really do like me.

And look, make sure to listen to hold up on Apple podcasts. iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.

Because I can't wait to hear about y'all. Roast and Josh By saying tomato soup is ketchup.

You just gonna lean on one thing. You're gonna hold on to one thing for the rest of the time.

You said ketch up with tomatoes.

I heard what I said when I said.

Up, meaning that you're a wild man.

I'm a wild man.

Okay.

I give you both, you know.

I pour your camels over some fries, bro dip a grilled cheese in this condiment.

Hold Up with Dulcé Sloan & Josh Johnson from The Daily Show

The Daily Show's correspondent Dulcé Sloan and writer Josh Johnson turn their hilarious, unpredictab 
Social links
Follow podcast
Recent clips
Browse 48 clip(s)