You stick to a plan and you do what you were supposed to do, and then you're a bit. You don't have to worry about it because it's clear to the world that you did what you were supposed to do, yeh know, yes, Whereas like you know, right now, I don't feel like it's clear that the world understands what I'm supposed to do, okay, right, And so I'm afraid if I die tomorrow, my oh bit will not say the right thing. This is Hello Isaac, my podcast about the idea of success and how failure affects it. I'm Isaac Mizrahi, and in this episode I talked to my dear friend and today's guest host, Brandon Lewis.

You stick to a plan and you do what you were supposed to do, and then you're a bit. You don't have to worry about it because it's clear to the world that you did what you were supposed to do, yeh know, yes, Whereas like you know, right now, I don't feel like it's clear that the world understands what I'm supposed to do, okay, right, And so I'm afraid if I die tomorrow, my oh bit will not say the right thing. This is Hello Isaac, my podcast about the idea of success and how failure affects it. I'm Isaac Mizrahi, and in this episode I talked to my dear friend and today's guest host, Brandon Lewis.

Queen. It's queen. We have a lot to discuss, all right, I'll talk to you soon. Thanks.

Queen. It's queen. We have a lot to discuss, all right, I'll talk to you soon. Thanks.

So a few months ago, we had my friend Brandon interview me for a special Thanksgiving episode called Ask Isaac. Brandon asked me all these like really fabulous questions that listeners sent in, and let me tell you, there was some really incredibly juicy ones. Well, that episode was so successful and we had so many questions that we didn't even get to so I invited Brandon back for another round. So today's episode is Ask Isaac, Part two, and we're gonna delve even further, and in advance, I'm going to thank you for your questions. Let's get right into it. Queen Darling, it's so funny that we don't have nicknames for each other other than queen. I mean, like, you know, such a generic I.

So a few months ago, we had my friend Brandon interview me for a special Thanksgiving episode called Ask Isaac. Brandon asked me all these like really fabulous questions that listeners sent in, and let me tell you, there was some really incredibly juicy ones. Well, that episode was so successful and we had so many questions that we didn't even get to so I invited Brandon back for another round. So today's episode is Ask Isaac, Part two, and we're gonna delve even further, and in advance, I'm going to thank you for your questions. Let's get right into it. Queen Darling, it's so funny that we don't have nicknames for each other other than queen. I mean, like, you know, such a generic I.

Feel like that sort of it's all encompassing, right, don't you feel like there's no other queen?

Feel like that sort of it's all encompassing, right, don't you feel like there's no other queen?

Maybe? Maybe so? By the way, your your hair is even shorter. Is that possible? Did you cut it even shorter?

Maybe? Maybe so? By the way, your your hair is even shorter. Is that possible? Did you cut it even shorter?

No? I didn't. I'm just sort of letting it. I'm letting it go. You like this length?

No? I didn't. I'm just sort of letting it. I'm letting it go. You like this length?

I do like it that length. I have to say, Darling, here we are again. Here we are again?

I do like it that length. I have to say, Darling, here we are again. Here we are again?

Yes, yes, here we are again. I think there's some more questions.

Yes, yes, here we are again. I think there's some more questions.

Well answer the first time? Yeah, exactly. So do you have the questions?

Well answer the first time? Yeah, exactly. So do you have the questions?

I have the questions. Our first question is from Mel's Bells and Mels Bell's Rights. How do you deal with nerves before going on stage?

I have the questions. Our first question is from Mel's Bells and Mels Bell's Rights. How do you deal with nerves before going on stage?

Wow, Mels Mells Bells, I have to tell you that is bone crushing, soul crushing. Really, yes, stage fright is like the Boogeyman, you know, like it has absolutely no shape, no name. It's like lurking like some crazy you know Wes Craven's movie, where like there's something going to come out of a closet and start hacking at you. Really, yes, yes, Like it starts from a day or to an advance and I'll put it off. And I put it off because it is irrational. It's not a real fear. And now more and more I am able to like make myself calm and not nervous before I go out. And I was texting with a really close friend of mine at the last show I did, and I was saying, stage fright is real, and I think I'm gonna kill myself and blah blah, And he was like, Darling, really, you know this material, Okay, just go out there and have a lot of fun. Yes, and you know the rest. That's the thing. I know. I mean, I know at the minute you walk out on stage, you feel buoyed by this love, you know, the waves of energy and the waves of love that you're feeling from the audience, and you hook into that baby and you're free. You're free, and it's a kind of freedom that you can't describe. There is nothing else in life that is as good as that. You know, sex is not as good as I'm not getting like an orgy, is that? Like I'm trying to think like spaghetti with I don't know, with meats and cheeses no es good good, not as good? Know.

Wow, Mels Mells Bells, I have to tell you that is bone crushing, soul crushing. Really, yes, stage fright is like the Boogeyman, you know, like it has absolutely no shape, no name. It's like lurking like some crazy you know Wes Craven's movie, where like there's something going to come out of a closet and start hacking at you. Really, yes, yes, Like it starts from a day or to an advance and I'll put it off. And I put it off because it is irrational. It's not a real fear. And now more and more I am able to like make myself calm and not nervous before I go out. And I was texting with a really close friend of mine at the last show I did, and I was saying, stage fright is real, and I think I'm gonna kill myself and blah blah, And he was like, Darling, really, you know this material, Okay, just go out there and have a lot of fun. Yes, and you know the rest. That's the thing. I know. I mean, I know at the minute you walk out on stage, you feel buoyed by this love, you know, the waves of energy and the waves of love that you're feeling from the audience, and you hook into that baby and you're free. You're free, and it's a kind of freedom that you can't describe. There is nothing else in life that is as good as that. You know, sex is not as good as I'm not getting like an orgy, is that? Like I'm trying to think like spaghetti with I don't know, with meats and cheeses no es good good, not as good? Know.

But the thing about it is you can never tell that you would either have something like that or whatever you do, well go.

But the thing about it is you can never tell that you would either have something like that or whatever you do, well go.

I mean, here's the thing, you know. I used to work with Liza all the time, right, like Lilli. I used to make like dresses for her shows, right, and I used to dress her in clothes and she would perform and them. We went out and we were very close friends at her place at my place, like really close friends. And one of the first times she gave me an award, I think it was my first CFDA award. The CFDA is the Council of Fashion Designers of America. And I was literally like falling through the floor with the nerves because like I felt like a Charlotte. Everybody has, you know, imposter syndrome, and now here I am accepting an award in this room full of people who really feel it should be them accepting it right, So it just didn't feel right. And she was like, Darling, it looks like you're And by the way, she did call me Darla. Yes, we called it yeah, and that case, yes darling. She checked. She said, Darling, you're nervous. I was like, you little bit, you know. She's like, okay, what's your favorite flavor ice cream? And I said, oh, my favorite flavor is I don't know, mint chocolate chip. And she said, okay, pretend it's the end of the evening. It's all over. You're sitting in your bed eating a big bowl of mint chocolate chip ice cream. Right. So if it sucks, it sucks, you still get your bowl of ice cream. If it's great, you still get your both. So if you can just keep that thought in your mind, and that was the most genius thing anybody ever ever said to me. So that was one thing. And then if you watch her walk on stage in any venue, whether it's you know, two hundred people in a nightclub or it's you know, literally eight thousand people at Radio City Music Hall, right, or tenthou twelve thousand people at mediums, she takes that room, honey, She walks on that stage and she takes them, you know, and that's what you learn, You learn to take a room. It's that's the most important thing I think about performing on stage is learning how to enter.

I mean, here's the thing, you know. I used to work with Liza all the time, right, like Lilli. I used to make like dresses for her shows, right, and I used to dress her in clothes and she would perform and them. We went out and we were very close friends at her place at my place, like really close friends. And one of the first times she gave me an award, I think it was my first CFDA award. The CFDA is the Council of Fashion Designers of America. And I was literally like falling through the floor with the nerves because like I felt like a Charlotte. Everybody has, you know, imposter syndrome, and now here I am accepting an award in this room full of people who really feel it should be them accepting it right, So it just didn't feel right. And she was like, Darling, it looks like you're And by the way, she did call me Darla. Yes, we called it yeah, and that case, yes darling. She checked. She said, Darling, you're nervous. I was like, you little bit, you know. She's like, okay, what's your favorite flavor ice cream? And I said, oh, my favorite flavor is I don't know, mint chocolate chip. And she said, okay, pretend it's the end of the evening. It's all over. You're sitting in your bed eating a big bowl of mint chocolate chip ice cream. Right. So if it sucks, it sucks, you still get your bowl of ice cream. If it's great, you still get your both. So if you can just keep that thought in your mind, and that was the most genius thing anybody ever ever said to me. So that was one thing. And then if you watch her walk on stage in any venue, whether it's you know, two hundred people in a nightclub or it's you know, literally eight thousand people at Radio City Music Hall, right, or tenthou twelve thousand people at mediums, she takes that room, honey, She walks on that stage and she takes them, you know, and that's what you learn, You learn to take a room. It's that's the most important thing I think about performing on stage is learning how to enter.

So Eric Forgot, that's his name, Eric Forgot. He asked, is that the best advice you've ever received?

So Eric Forgot, that's his name, Eric Forgot. He asked, is that the best advice you've ever received?

Yes? I would say, so, that is the best advice I ever received. Absolutely. It's a good question because I don't believe in advice, you know. I always people say, oh, what advice would you give, And I'd say, like, you know, just run, don't do it. If you need advice, darling, you're in the wrong profession, you know. But I would say that is the best advice I ever received.

Yes? I would say, so, that is the best advice I ever received. Absolutely. It's a good question because I don't believe in advice, you know. I always people say, oh, what advice would you give, And I'd say, like, you know, just run, don't do it. If you need advice, darling, you're in the wrong profession, you know. But I would say that is the best advice I ever received.

Okay, Wait, Also, you received that advice from Judy's daughter, you know, Lorna's sister. That's a little different.

Okay, Wait, Also, you received that advice from Judy's daughter, you know, Lorna's sister. That's a little different.

Not everyone gets advice since daughter, since daughter's vincent. Yeah, right now, you're right.

Not everyone gets advice since daughter, since daughter's vincent. Yeah, right now, you're right.

Okay, So what has been the proudest and she's met so far or greatest challenge? And that was from Frederick Rubin. You know.

Okay, So what has been the proudest and she's met so far or greatest challenge? And that was from Frederick Rubin. You know.

There are a few good achievements, right Okay. One was the one man show I did on off Broadway in late two thousand. Leme Mizrahi. Yeah, that was a really, really, really big achievement, and it was realized, you know, under a great deal of pressure and with a great deal of obstacles, so many people who did not belong working on that show, so many people who should have worked, I mean, one obstacle after another, and finally it got made and it ran for like over a year, I think, between the workshop and the shows, it ran for a very long time. And I was so proud of it, and it made me feel so good to do that show every night. You know. My other great achievement was finishing a memoir. That felt like a big, big, big, great achievement, and you know, because it was somehow about reconciling what was in my head with the rest of the world. You know, It's like, here is the story as I lived it. So it might be skewed, it might be wrong, but this is my truth, you know what I mean. So if you're reading this book and you don't agree, you are wrong, because it's just my truth, you know. And I was really scared that my mother would absolutely hate it and she would disown me or something, because it's a very round portrait of this woman and she really loved it. She's really not that coherent anymore, but I slipped it in right under the like she was coherent enough to read it and tell me how proud she was of me for writing it, and tell me how incredibly like flattered she was at the portrayal of that character of my mother in that book, you know, And that was like the greatest gift of ever.

There are a few good achievements, right Okay. One was the one man show I did on off Broadway in late two thousand. Leme Mizrahi. Yeah, that was a really, really, really big achievement, and it was realized, you know, under a great deal of pressure and with a great deal of obstacles, so many people who did not belong working on that show, so many people who should have worked, I mean, one obstacle after another, and finally it got made and it ran for like over a year, I think, between the workshop and the shows, it ran for a very long time. And I was so proud of it, and it made me feel so good to do that show every night. You know. My other great achievement was finishing a memoir. That felt like a big, big, big, great achievement, and you know, because it was somehow about reconciling what was in my head with the rest of the world. You know, It's like, here is the story as I lived it. So it might be skewed, it might be wrong, but this is my truth, you know what I mean. So if you're reading this book and you don't agree, you are wrong, because it's just my truth, you know. And I was really scared that my mother would absolutely hate it and she would disown me or something, because it's a very round portrait of this woman and she really loved it. She's really not that coherent anymore, but I slipped it in right under the like she was coherent enough to read it and tell me how proud she was of me for writing it, and tell me how incredibly like flattered she was at the portrayal of that character of my mother in that book, you know, And that was like the greatest gift of ever.

Well, I mean, it's an amazing book. I mean, I did the audiobook because again, there were so many words on the page and there were no pictures, so I had to.

Well, I mean, it's an amazing book. I mean, I did the audiobook because again, there were so many words on the page and there were no pictures, so I had to.

Listen to it, right because all you know is fashion exactly exactly.

Listen to it, right because all you know is fashion exactly exactly.

I was like, we're the illustrations with the pictures. And so after I finished, remember, I texted you and I was like, this was the most amazing thing I've ever you know, I know a lot of these stories because you've shared them with me, but to have them all at once in the way that you told it, I mean, I thought it was an amazing book.

I was like, we're the illustrations with the pictures. And so after I finished, remember, I texted you and I was like, this was the most amazing thing I've ever you know, I know a lot of these stories because you've shared them with me, but to have them all at once in the way that you told it, I mean, I thought it was an amazing book.

Well, thank you, Darling, thank you, thank you. And I think the greatest challenge for me, which sounds stupid, but the greatest challenge for me is to try not to like hate the physical reality of my face and my body. I guess that comes from a kind of checked narcissism or something. You know. It's like I want to be beautiful and I was never beautiful and I was never thin enough, and I was never beautiful enough, and so like I look in the mirror and I go, really that that that like my whole life, I'm fighting looking in the mirror and hating what I see. You know what I mean.

Well, thank you, Darling, thank you, thank you. And I think the greatest challenge for me, which sounds stupid, but the greatest challenge for me is to try not to like hate the physical reality of my face and my body. I guess that comes from a kind of checked narcissism or something. You know. It's like I want to be beautiful and I was never beautiful and I was never thin enough, and I was never beautiful enough, and so like I look in the mirror and I go, really that that that like my whole life, I'm fighting looking in the mirror and hating what I see. You know what I mean.

But that's not just a you thing, you know what I mean. I mean, like you don't feel that way, But that's not a everyone feels that way. Any person feels that way at any given time. They can feel like they are not enough, they don't look a certain way that they want to Darling.

But that's not just a you thing, you know what I mean. I mean, like you don't feel that way, But that's not a everyone feels that way. Any person feels that way at any given time. They can feel like they are not enough, they don't look a certain way that they want to Darling.

That's one of my famous quotes, well, which is something like I don't remember, I can't quote myself. You can't quote yourself, right, But it's something like it's something like, stop worrying about what others think about the way you're dressed or the way you look, because they're so freaked out about how shitty they look to notice or something like that. Yeah, it's true, every so freaked out about shitty, yes, that they don't even notice what you look like, no, unless you're on a red carpet right and taking your picture and you're next to like, you know, Selma Blair or something that weighs a paeon. She's so gorgeous and she has that proportion. She looks so great and close and there you are this towering like geek you know, or something you know, like Sarah Jessica Parker, and she looks like that and you look like this.

That's one of my famous quotes, well, which is something like I don't remember, I can't quote myself. You can't quote yourself, right, But it's something like it's something like, stop worrying about what others think about the way you're dressed or the way you look, because they're so freaked out about how shitty they look to notice or something like that. Yeah, it's true, every so freaked out about shitty, yes, that they don't even notice what you look like, no, unless you're on a red carpet right and taking your picture and you're next to like, you know, Selma Blair or something that weighs a paeon. She's so gorgeous and she has that proportion. She looks so great and close and there you are this towering like geek you know, or something you know, like Sarah Jessica Parker, and she looks like that and you look like this.

Well, you're describing these like glamazons, right, You're describe other worldly type figures. No one care.

Well, you're describing these like glamazons, right, You're describe other worldly type figures. No one care.

Well, that's who I was surrounded by all those years, and ballet dancers with those bodies.

Well, that's who I was surrounded by all those years, and ballet dancers with those bodies.

You know.

You know.

I did ballet costumes, and I'm a ballet fiend. I took class a few times. A few times. I took a few classes when I.

I did ballet costumes, and I'm a ballet fiend. I took class a few times. A few times. I took a few classes when I.

Was on point. Did you do point? No?

Was on point. Did you do point? No?

I never, I never. I do have a bit of point shoes, I know on point I have, but I've never performed in point shoes.

I never, I never. I do have a bit of point shoes, I know on point I have, but I've never performed in point shoes.

Now, great, okay, So nava Ignato asks what excites you the most for the upcoming few years?

Now, great, okay, So nava Ignato asks what excites you the most for the upcoming few years?

What excites me the most is performing? Right, Like, I have this incredible manager now who books me regularly in sort of concert venues, small concert venues around the country. And although it's not like Joan or Something or Sandra Something who has like they just do every night they're in another city, they're doing another show and they're so lucky. What fun that must be. But I look forward to kind of getting into a groove like that. That's what I really want to do. And I want to write. I want to write a play. I want to write a television series. I want to write stuff, you know. So that's what I look forward to the most. And also I love my podcast. I know this sounds crazy, but I love how it's plug Is that what you know? But I love it, and I would love it to reach a kind of a critical mass of some kind. I would like it to be again in some kind of the public discourse. I want it to be people to talk about me. I want people to talk.

What excites me the most is performing? Right, Like, I have this incredible manager now who books me regularly in sort of concert venues, small concert venues around the country. And although it's not like Joan or Something or Sandra Something who has like they just do every night they're in another city, they're doing another show and they're so lucky. What fun that must be. But I look forward to kind of getting into a groove like that. That's what I really want to do. And I want to write. I want to write a play. I want to write a television series. I want to write stuff, you know. So that's what I look forward to the most. And also I love my podcast. I know this sounds crazy, but I love how it's plug Is that what you know? But I love it, and I would love it to reach a kind of a critical mass of some kind. I would like it to be again in some kind of the public discourse. I want it to be people to talk about me. I want people to talk.

I have a feeling that this specific episode will get you to that point. So I'm happy to be here for this transition, right, I have that to sort of, you know, keep it going funny. So you're welcome. Yes, okay, So how about this tell us about the most difficult decision you've ever made in your life? And what was the lesson? And that was from Lover of the Sea.

I have a feeling that this specific episode will get you to that point. So I'm happy to be here for this transition, right, I have that to sort of, you know, keep it going funny. So you're welcome. Yes, okay, So how about this tell us about the most difficult decision you've ever made in your life? And what was the lesson? And that was from Lover of the Sea.

You know, I was just talking about decision making with my shrink the other day. Yes, because right now I'm looking at making a lot of very very hard decisions. I think right now, in the entire world, every single person on this earth, I think it's just astrological to something. It's a moment when people are making a lot of hard decisions. Yes, and you're not a Libra. You are a Gemini, is that right? You're a Gemini? Yeah, But for a Libra, it's nearly impossible to make a decision, right, You're just weighing things and weighing things and weighing things and wearying things. And what ends up happening is like there is no decision made. Like I remember, I swear to god this is a really dumb story. But when I was thirteen or something, okay, my parents said, oh, do you want to go to sleep away camp? You know, are you bored for two months? So you go out and stay in a cabin for two months. And I was very challenged by that idea, and I was like what, Ugh, I don't know. And so for weeks I would go to bed every night and wake up in the morning and think and ponder and way and go yes, no, this that the and then one morning I just woke up and I knew that I was going to sleep away. Like the decision was not mine to make. It just made itself after so after looking at every angle, at every aspect of it, and I feel like that's the answer for a Libra. And I'm not sure you can apply that to sort of, you know, an Aquarius to something or a Virgo, But for a Libra, it's all about letting the decision be made by the universe.

You know, I was just talking about decision making with my shrink the other day. Yes, because right now I'm looking at making a lot of very very hard decisions. I think right now, in the entire world, every single person on this earth, I think it's just astrological to something. It's a moment when people are making a lot of hard decisions. Yes, and you're not a Libra. You are a Gemini, is that right? You're a Gemini? Yeah, But for a Libra, it's nearly impossible to make a decision, right, You're just weighing things and weighing things and weighing things and wearying things. And what ends up happening is like there is no decision made. Like I remember, I swear to god this is a really dumb story. But when I was thirteen or something, okay, my parents said, oh, do you want to go to sleep away camp? You know, are you bored for two months? So you go out and stay in a cabin for two months. And I was very challenged by that idea, and I was like what, Ugh, I don't know. And so for weeks I would go to bed every night and wake up in the morning and think and ponder and way and go yes, no, this that the and then one morning I just woke up and I knew that I was going to sleep away. Like the decision was not mine to make. It just made itself after so after looking at every angle, at every aspect of it, and I feel like that's the answer for a Libra. And I'm not sure you can apply that to sort of, you know, an Aquarius to something or a Virgo, But for a Libra, it's all about letting the decision be made by the universe.

And then what do you learn from that after you've made that decision. It's kind of out of your hands.

And then what do you learn from that after you've made that decision. It's kind of out of your hands.

I don't know, you know, I learn a lot of things. I learn ridiculous things that are embarrassing to talk. And I would never say, like I learned that something has more calories than something else, and not to eat that thing if you don't want to gain you know, it's like that's what I learned. As far as like learning lessons, you could learn the lesson, but it doesn't affect the way you act going forward, thank God, because you fail and fail and fail, and by the way, you know, Hello, Isaac is a lot about failure, and I'm not sure if you got a question about failure and.

I don't know, you know, I learn a lot of things. I learn ridiculous things that are embarrassing to talk. And I would never say, like I learned that something has more calories than something else, and not to eat that thing if you don't want to gain you know, it's like that's what I learned. As far as like learning lessons, you could learn the lesson, but it doesn't affect the way you act going forward, thank God, because you fail and fail and fail, and by the way, you know, Hello, Isaac is a lot about failure, and I'm not sure if you got a question about failure and.

I do actually have a couple.

I do actually have a couple.

Listen, let's get right into that topic. You know, people answer that question they go, oh, I did this, and I fell and I picked myself up by the bootstraps and I learned, And I think that is a great truth. But you know it's like for me, I don't learn anything from failure because I fail often. And I think the lesson you learned about failure is not to be afraid of failing. Don't be afraid of failing and not learning your lesson. I guess people would think that when I closed my coturier in nineteen ninety eight or whatever that was, that was a great, big failure. But you know what, like I never saw it as a failure. I thought it was the greatest decision that had ever been made. And again I kind of weighed things and weighed things that I was like, should I do this? Should I do should I close my door? Should I conform to what this company wants me to do in order to stay open? And I just didn't think it was fresh. I thought I would be very bored and so like the decision was made for me. We closed the doors, and when we did, I felt so liberated. I mean it, I felt better on those few days after that. And I know that sounds weird, and I'm really sorry about all the people that lost their jobs and all the people who had a lot of clothes that they had to sell whatever, But for me personally, it was a big, big, big burden that was just getting worse and worse and worse, and I was so happy to be free of it. So I didn't really like think of it as a big failure. And I was going around telling people like this is the greatest, and they thought I was in denial, and maybe I was. It could be that I was in denial. And there were people who would call and leave these metress like oh, darling, I'm so sorry, call me back, call me back, And then I knew they wanted to commiserate with me, and I did not feel that way. And then I'd get another message like darling, don't you want to talk? And then the third message like you better call me back? You ask whole like what you know? It's like, well, because I know that you just want to get me on the phone. So you of course hear how miserable I am when I'm not. You know, do you feel like.

Listen, let's get right into that topic. You know, people answer that question they go, oh, I did this, and I fell and I picked myself up by the bootstraps and I learned, And I think that is a great truth. But you know it's like for me, I don't learn anything from failure because I fail often. And I think the lesson you learned about failure is not to be afraid of failing. Don't be afraid of failing and not learning your lesson. I guess people would think that when I closed my coturier in nineteen ninety eight or whatever that was, that was a great, big failure. But you know what, like I never saw it as a failure. I thought it was the greatest decision that had ever been made. And again I kind of weighed things and weighed things that I was like, should I do this? Should I do should I close my door? Should I conform to what this company wants me to do in order to stay open? And I just didn't think it was fresh. I thought I would be very bored and so like the decision was made for me. We closed the doors, and when we did, I felt so liberated. I mean it, I felt better on those few days after that. And I know that sounds weird, and I'm really sorry about all the people that lost their jobs and all the people who had a lot of clothes that they had to sell whatever, But for me personally, it was a big, big, big burden that was just getting worse and worse and worse, and I was so happy to be free of it. So I didn't really like think of it as a big failure. And I was going around telling people like this is the greatest, and they thought I was in denial, and maybe I was. It could be that I was in denial. And there were people who would call and leave these metress like oh, darling, I'm so sorry, call me back, call me back, And then I knew they wanted to commiserate with me, and I did not feel that way. And then I'd get another message like darling, don't you want to talk? And then the third message like you better call me back? You ask whole like what you know? It's like, well, because I know that you just want to get me on the phone. So you of course hear how miserable I am when I'm not. You know, do you feel like.

That was a sort of important part of your transitioning into all these other fields like that needed to happen in order for you to go to do your one man show, to do your television show.

That was a sort of important part of your transitioning into all these other fields like that needed to happen in order for you to go to do your one man show, to do your television show.

I guess so, you know, I guess. So. I mean again, like things happen to me, you know, and I mean this it's the same thing as feeling that I don't really make decisions. You know. I strive, and I strive, and I try to get things done, and I try to get things done, but what ends up happening to me is much more important and much more profound than what I plan, you know. And so like I was working on my one man show way before I closed out in nineteen ninety eight, I was doing Joe's pub already, it was already kind of in the world doing stuff.

I guess so, you know, I guess. So. I mean again, like things happen to me, you know, and I mean this it's the same thing as feeling that I don't really make decisions. You know. I strive, and I strive, and I try to get things done, and I try to get things done, but what ends up happening to me is much more important and much more profound than what I plan, you know. And so like I was working on my one man show way before I closed out in nineteen ninety eight, I was doing Joe's pub already, it was already kind of in the world doing stuff.

Yes, Do you don't feel like that allowed you the more?

Yes, Do you don't feel like that allowed you the more?

Yes? Maybe it did. Maybe it did. Maybe I saw it as this like thing where I was letting go of a big, big, big infrastructure that I didn't need any more personally, you know, Yeah, yes, could be. But you know what I mean it's like, yes, it happened. I didn't do it, It just happened, and I was so thrilled.

Yes? Maybe it did. Maybe it did. Maybe I saw it as this like thing where I was letting go of a big, big, big infrastructure that I didn't need any more personally, you know, Yeah, yes, could be. But you know what I mean it's like, yes, it happened. I didn't do it, It just happened, and I was so thrilled.

You know.

You know.

Yeah, I don't know exactly how to answer the question, because yes, you learn a lot from failure, but the best lesson to learn from failure is not to be afraid to fail again.

Yeah, I don't know exactly how to answer the question, because yes, you learn a lot from failure, but the best lesson to learn from failure is not to be afraid to fail again.

You know, yeah, I mean, you know, and if you do, then.

You know, yeah, I mean, you know, and if you do, then.

It's fine, right, exactly, it's not fine. It's fine. It is what it is, right, and your life is going to take a shape.

It's fine, right, exactly, it's not fine. It's fine. It is what it is, right, and your life is going to take a shape.

I mean that was literally verbatim what fl At the Shore's question was, which was, you know, your successful failure as an important teacher, what lessons have you learned?

I mean that was literally verbatim what fl At the Shore's question was, which was, you know, your successful failure as an important teacher, what lessons have you learned?

Well, there you go, a cell, darling, thank you for the question.

Well, there you go, a cell, darling, thank you for the question.

All right, So what do you love about living in New York?

All right, So what do you love about living in New York?

You know, I don't even know anymore. I just know that I hate living everywhere else, you know, I just know that I go other places and I go, oh, you know, no, no, no, except you know, I really like Bridgehampton, and but Bridge Hampton is in the Tri state area, so I take it as it's part of the New York experience. And by the way, the real houseoves of New York. A few episodes take place in the Hampton's. So yeah, so we feel justified. But I swear to you, Brandon, like I am one of those like crazy characters who you know, have a real hard time separating from New York. And you know, it's like that Rose Nyland thing from The Golden Girls when they go to New York City, when Dorothy and Rose go to New York City and it's roses for time in New York and Dorothy goes, well, what did you think? And Rose goes, oh, it's so much like how does anybody live here? The noise? And you know, I went to Bloomingdale's. You could fit the whole of Saint Olaf like inside the store of Bloomingdals. It's just so much and so big and so much and so big. And the thing is, that's what I was born into. That's what I was bred into. You know. I was born in Brooklyn, and you know, my father worked on thirty fourth Street, across the street from Macy's. I went to high school on forty sixth Street between sixth and Broadway, right in the middle of the theater district, you know, And so I grew up in all of the excitement and danger and squalor and incredible beauty of New York City. And when you get used to that, you know, like in La they go, oh, look at that view, and I'm like, what, that's a view. That's some lights and some houses, you know, right, you want to see of you, darling? You are you? Yes, go to Brooklyn and look at the skyline from Brooklyn, you know, or look at the Empire State Building from like my neighbor's window. You know, it's like that is of you, right. Sorry. I like living in New York because I know I wouldn't like living anywhere else. And I like the constant bombardment of stimulation. And I like the great contrast of beautiful things and really really ugly terrible things, you know. I like that contrast.

You know, I don't even know anymore. I just know that I hate living everywhere else, you know, I just know that I go other places and I go, oh, you know, no, no, no, except you know, I really like Bridgehampton, and but Bridge Hampton is in the Tri state area, so I take it as it's part of the New York experience. And by the way, the real houseoves of New York. A few episodes take place in the Hampton's. So yeah, so we feel justified. But I swear to you, Brandon, like I am one of those like crazy characters who you know, have a real hard time separating from New York. And you know, it's like that Rose Nyland thing from The Golden Girls when they go to New York City, when Dorothy and Rose go to New York City and it's roses for time in New York and Dorothy goes, well, what did you think? And Rose goes, oh, it's so much like how does anybody live here? The noise? And you know, I went to Bloomingdale's. You could fit the whole of Saint Olaf like inside the store of Bloomingdals. It's just so much and so big and so much and so big. And the thing is, that's what I was born into. That's what I was bred into. You know. I was born in Brooklyn, and you know, my father worked on thirty fourth Street, across the street from Macy's. I went to high school on forty sixth Street between sixth and Broadway, right in the middle of the theater district, you know, And so I grew up in all of the excitement and danger and squalor and incredible beauty of New York City. And when you get used to that, you know, like in La they go, oh, look at that view, and I'm like, what, that's a view. That's some lights and some houses, you know, right, you want to see of you, darling? You are you? Yes, go to Brooklyn and look at the skyline from Brooklyn, you know, or look at the Empire State Building from like my neighbor's window. You know, it's like that is of you, right. Sorry. I like living in New York because I know I wouldn't like living anywhere else. And I like the constant bombardment of stimulation. And I like the great contrast of beautiful things and really really ugly terrible things, you know. I like that contrast.

Well, okay, so you've lived in the West Village for forever. Yes, why not the Upper East Side?

Well, okay, so you've lived in the West Village for forever. Yes, why not the Upper East Side?

Well, listen, I lived on the Upper West Side of the eighties. When I first moved out of my mom's house. Everything up there was really inexpensive and it was very cool. It was coming up from a real bombed out kind of a thing, and there were all these fun new places in the Upper West side. I would live in the Upper East Side, could you know?

Well, listen, I lived on the Upper West Side of the eighties. When I first moved out of my mom's house. Everything up there was really inexpensive and it was very cool. It was coming up from a real bombed out kind of a thing, and there were all these fun new places in the Upper West side. I would live in the Upper East Side, could you know?

I mean, I feel like it's you, you know a little.

I mean, I feel like it's you, you know a little.

Bit darling listen, rethinking everything. I guess I'm going through some kind of crazy Saturn or Pluto thing. I don't know what, as my ask my my astrologer, I'm going through some crazy things. But like, I don't mean to shade every other place than New York. That's not what I'm doing. If you talk to Rory Gilmore or Laura La Gilmore or el Okay, they would say, like, no, we're never leaving stars hollow because of course placed in the world.

Bit darling listen, rethinking everything. I guess I'm going through some kind of crazy Saturn or Pluto thing. I don't know what, as my ask my my astrologer, I'm going through some crazy things. But like, I don't mean to shade every other place than New York. That's not what I'm doing. If you talk to Rory Gilmore or Laura La Gilmore or el Okay, they would say, like, no, we're never leaving stars hollow because of course placed in the world.

Yes.

Yes.

And this one psychic said that to me when I was eighteen. He said, well, you feel about New York the way farmers feel about the soil, about the ground under their feet where they're going to grow these crops and they're going to reap the benefits of the crops. And you know that's the thing. It's like people love where they're from, and I love where I'm from. Rose Nyland could not deal with it. I don't blame her, but I can't deal with any place.

And this one psychic said that to me when I was eighteen. He said, well, you feel about New York the way farmers feel about the soil, about the ground under their feet where they're going to grow these crops and they're going to reap the benefits of the crops. And you know that's the thing. It's like people love where they're from, and I love where I'm from. Rose Nyland could not deal with it. I don't blame her, but I can't deal with any place.

Of course, you know it's New York. Or maybe we'd have different feelings if we lived in stars them.

Of course, you know it's New York. Or maybe we'd have different feelings if we lived in stars them.

Well, you know what, not kidding? Bridge Hampton is my version of Star's Hollow.

Well, you know what, not kidding? Bridge Hampton is my version of Star's Hollow.

Okay, So what are your daily rituals or routine?

Okay, So what are your daily rituals or routine?

Oh? Oh, well, you know there are some okay, by the way, aside from the boring ones, like constantly flossing and brushing one's teeth right, right, and you know, trying to count points wait, unts points. I do a lot of different moisturizers. I don't know if you know that, right, I know, I know that, and I have been doing that since I am I would say I got a job at Perry Ellis when I was seventeen or eighteen years old, and Perry Ellis, I don't know why, but he was obsessed with Keels. It was just when Keels was sort of like you know, coming even though it's been open since the nineteenth century, it was having a moment like it was having the moment where it was revived into that big brand, and he was all about Keels. And I remember like for me, it was expensive to buy Krem decor, but I did. I did it anyway, you know, Yes, I bought like, you know, facial moisturizer, foot moisturizer, body moisturizer, you know, all kinds of like posts and pre shaving moisturizers, like I have millions of these, so I do believe in moisturizers.

Oh? Oh, well, you know there are some okay, by the way, aside from the boring ones, like constantly flossing and brushing one's teeth right, right, and you know, trying to count points wait, unts points. I do a lot of different moisturizers. I don't know if you know that, right, I know, I know that, and I have been doing that since I am I would say I got a job at Perry Ellis when I was seventeen or eighteen years old, and Perry Ellis, I don't know why, but he was obsessed with Keels. It was just when Keels was sort of like you know, coming even though it's been open since the nineteenth century, it was having a moment like it was having the moment where it was revived into that big brand, and he was all about Keels. And I remember like for me, it was expensive to buy Krem decor, but I did. I did it anyway, you know, Yes, I bought like, you know, facial moisturizer, foot moisturizer, body moisturizer, you know, all kinds of like posts and pre shaving moisturizers, like I have millions of these, so I do believe in moisturizers.

Would you like to be an influencer? Is that because I know people who know my sister works for Keels, like I can get you some things, you know? Do you want to be a beauty influencer?

Would you like to be an influencer? Is that because I know people who know my sister works for Keels, like I can get you some things, you know? Do you want to be a beauty influencer?

I have to tell you, I like buying my own beauty products, like please do not give me moisturizer. Please not like, oh, here's a great product that you'll love, because I won't. I'm just telling you I won't love that product.

I have to tell you, I like buying my own beauty products, like please do not give me moisturizer. Please not like, oh, here's a great product that you'll love, because I won't. I'm just telling you I won't love that product.

You know.

You know.

Okay, give me a moisturizer because I got it. I got it together. It's a great trial and error that I come to my beauty routine. So don't try to influence gives me?

Okay, give me a moisturizer because I got it. I got it together. It's a great trial and error that I come to my beauty routine. So don't try to influence gives me?

Okay, all right it okay? So I have a fashion question for you. What is your favorite collection you've ever done? And why? And that's from our good friend Deborah Watson.

Okay, all right it okay? So I have a fashion question for you. What is your favorite collection you've ever done? And why? And that's from our good friend Deborah Watson.

We loved it, Debbie Debs. What's going Debs? I think my favorite collection I ever did. I thought the best collection I ever did, got the worst reviews ever, but it was definitely the best work I've ever done, which was this collection that I did. I don't remember what year it was or what season, but girl, I just had so many ideas and I made them all happen, and I made them all relate in this way. It was all about like this new approach to like the Southwest, right. So I had these giant kind of like photo reel prints that I swear I did first. You know, people go, oh, he's doing that, darling, look at it. Before I made those dresses with huge roses on, like human size roses. No one ever did that, Okay, So I did that. I created that whole thing. Maybe others had done handpainted. I worked with this woman called Sylvia Cannapa who was a friend, and she ran this mill with her sisters Cannapa. It was called Canapa, and they killed themselves. They made me like literally like seventy five different fabrics and seventy five different prints. So it's these amazing huge prints. And also it wasn't American West as much as it was like gun Smoke or something like Mushady with like curls curls. The hair was so good. Yeah, I think the hair was Garren and it was so like fucked up and good. Kevin did the face Kevin's face obviously, and that so it was a lot of like sort of like hoe down skirts and big, big, big lashes. But also I made up this thing called tooled and jeweled, and I found the sky somewhere in Texas or somewhere whatever who made the most gorgeous like tooled leather objects. And I made him make like tooled leather boustiers, you know, and like jewelry that was all tooled leather pieces that had then been encrusted. I mean, it was too much. And then I made lace. I had this lace fabricated with like horseshoes and horses, and it was too much. It was so great. So it wasn't like you know, that sort of Ralph Laura in American West thing, which I think is genius, But it wasn't that. I would never take that from him. He does that period. He's the one who does that, you know. But I did this whole kind of gun smoke thing, and it was hilarious and it was so glamorous and the girls looked so glamorous, and it was this Manola Blanic. The shoe was genius. It was this high heel with just like a two straps across. It was very miskitty. All I have to say to Manola was miss kitty, and in two seconds he understood the whole esthetics kitty should be. Then in a minute I was sent to the shoe and five minutes later I got the shoe from Minola. Blank.

We loved it, Debbie Debs. What's going Debs? I think my favorite collection I ever did. I thought the best collection I ever did, got the worst reviews ever, but it was definitely the best work I've ever done, which was this collection that I did. I don't remember what year it was or what season, but girl, I just had so many ideas and I made them all happen, and I made them all relate in this way. It was all about like this new approach to like the Southwest, right. So I had these giant kind of like photo reel prints that I swear I did first. You know, people go, oh, he's doing that, darling, look at it. Before I made those dresses with huge roses on, like human size roses. No one ever did that, Okay, So I did that. I created that whole thing. Maybe others had done handpainted. I worked with this woman called Sylvia Cannapa who was a friend, and she ran this mill with her sisters Cannapa. It was called Canapa, and they killed themselves. They made me like literally like seventy five different fabrics and seventy five different prints. So it's these amazing huge prints. And also it wasn't American West as much as it was like gun Smoke or something like Mushady with like curls curls. The hair was so good. Yeah, I think the hair was Garren and it was so like fucked up and good. Kevin did the face Kevin's face obviously, and that so it was a lot of like sort of like hoe down skirts and big, big, big lashes. But also I made up this thing called tooled and jeweled, and I found the sky somewhere in Texas or somewhere whatever who made the most gorgeous like tooled leather objects. And I made him make like tooled leather boustiers, you know, and like jewelry that was all tooled leather pieces that had then been encrusted. I mean, it was too much. And then I made lace. I had this lace fabricated with like horseshoes and horses, and it was too much. It was so great. So it wasn't like you know, that sort of Ralph Laura in American West thing, which I think is genius, But it wasn't that. I would never take that from him. He does that period. He's the one who does that, you know. But I did this whole kind of gun smoke thing, and it was hilarious and it was so glamorous and the girls looked so glamorous, and it was this Manola Blanic. The shoe was genius. It was this high heel with just like a two straps across. It was very miskitty. All I have to say to Manola was miss kitty, and in two seconds he understood the whole esthetics kitty should be. Then in a minute I was sent to the shoe and five minutes later I got the shoe from Minola. Blank.

But he's like two words, miss kitty. That's it. I'm not going to say anymore.

But he's like two words, miss kitty. That's it. I'm not going to say anymore.

Yep, not gonna say. I'm done.

Yep, not gonna say. I'm done.

I'm done, okay. So what do you like to do in your free time and what are your favorite things to do? This is from Roseanne Limbiano.

I'm done, okay. So what do you like to do in your free time and what are your favorite things to do? This is from Roseanne Limbiano.

I like in my free time to do almost nothing, you know, Yes, like in my free time to be with my dogs and to cook a little something. I really like to cook. And I have like my five favorite things that I cook, and occasionally I'll discover something new to cook and one of them is like a roasted fish. I mean they're all so incredibly simple things, you know. So that's what I like to do. I like to do very little. I love watching the Gilmore Girls. I love watching Missus Mays give me a Sherman Palladino moment of course, give me a binge of a Sherman Palladino and I'm very happy.

I like in my free time to do almost nothing, you know, Yes, like in my free time to be with my dogs and to cook a little something. I really like to cook. And I have like my five favorite things that I cook, and occasionally I'll discover something new to cook and one of them is like a roasted fish. I mean they're all so incredibly simple things, you know. So that's what I like to do. I like to do very little. I love watching the Gilmore Girls. I love watching Missus Mays give me a Sherman Palladino moment of course, give me a binge of a Sherman Palladino and I'm very happy.

How many times have you watched Kilmore Girls exactly this?

How many times have you watched Kilmore Girls exactly this?

I'm going on my fifth time around. Okay, yes it's crazy but true.

I'm going on my fifth time around. Okay, yes it's crazy but true.

I'm still in mournings, so it's like, you know, I can't.

I'm still in mournings, so it's like, you know, I can't.

Just finished, but it comes back. I'm telling you, I never finished. I just was like, Okay, season seven's over, let's start again. Season one, Episode one, Rory at Luke's being you know, hit on by the guy, right, yeah, we will remember.

Just finished, but it comes back. I'm telling you, I never finished. I just was like, Okay, season seven's over, let's start again. Season one, Episode one, Rory at Luke's being you know, hit on by the guy, right, yeah, we will remember.

It's too fresh, you know what I mean. Like the other day I heard the wedding song that played during Lorelei and Luke's wedding at the you know those episodes that they did for Netflix. Like I heard that song and I was just like, you know what, too soon. I can't go there yet. I can't go there. I can't go there. It's actually too much for me. Maren tar Ass, do you prefer dinner out or at home? And if at home, do you plan out for the week.

It's too fresh, you know what I mean. Like the other day I heard the wedding song that played during Lorelei and Luke's wedding at the you know those episodes that they did for Netflix. Like I heard that song and I was just like, you know what, too soon. I can't go there yet. I can't go there. I can't go there. It's actually too much for me. Maren tar Ass, do you prefer dinner out or at home? And if at home, do you plan out for the week.

Well, let's see, I love eating out. I love it.

Well, let's see, I love eating out. I love it.

You know.

You know.

My mother used to say this thing, like her definition of homosexuality, the favorite thing in the world. When I was dating this guy, Douglas, his mother and she and I and Douglas had dinner one night and Douglas's mother was like, Oh, it's so hard, so hard to be gay, and they're persecuted and blah blah. And my mother said, Darling, don't worryorry about them. To have a great life. They eat out, they see shows. Yes, that was the end of the sentence. They eat out all they see shows. That's all that we just left it dangling. That's all that we do. And she was right, like, I really like to eat out. And I have to tell you I like eating in restaurants that I know because I know I'm not going to be thrown shade. I'm going to be seated in a nice place Il Cantanri, Santa Bros. You know these kinds of places, Pierre's, Bridge Hampton, Dope, bo Il Punte whatever it is, you know what I mean. Yeah, I like going to those places. But I also love to cook. And during COVID, it was a very very important thing that you planned out cooking, you know. So to answer her question, now, yes, I do plan three or four days in advance, right, and you know, you try to buy, like stuff that you know will remain fresh. You know, if you buy a fish, it's not going to remain fresh, so you have to buy that that day, you know.

My mother used to say this thing, like her definition of homosexuality, the favorite thing in the world. When I was dating this guy, Douglas, his mother and she and I and Douglas had dinner one night and Douglas's mother was like, Oh, it's so hard, so hard to be gay, and they're persecuted and blah blah. And my mother said, Darling, don't worryorry about them. To have a great life. They eat out, they see shows. Yes, that was the end of the sentence. They eat out all they see shows. That's all that we just left it dangling. That's all that we do. And she was right, like, I really like to eat out. And I have to tell you I like eating in restaurants that I know because I know I'm not going to be thrown shade. I'm going to be seated in a nice place Il Cantanri, Santa Bros. You know these kinds of places, Pierre's, Bridge Hampton, Dope, bo Il Punte whatever it is, you know what I mean. Yeah, I like going to those places. But I also love to cook. And during COVID, it was a very very important thing that you planned out cooking, you know. So to answer her question, now, yes, I do plan three or four days in advance, right, and you know, you try to buy, like stuff that you know will remain fresh. You know, if you buy a fish, it's not going to remain fresh, so you have to buy that that day, you know.

So yeah, well, you know I've only seen these sort of home cook fields. I haven't personally experience them.

So yeah, well, you know I've only seen these sort of home cook fields. I haven't personally experience them.

Well at some point, I'm sure I've cooked for you once or twice.

Well at some point, I'm sure I've cooked for you once or twice.

Brandwalls. Okay, okay. Do you play an instrument? And this is from outstanding game plan.

Brandwalls. Okay, okay. Do you play an instrument? And this is from outstanding game plan.

I used to play an instrument. I played piano for years and years and years, and then I just stopped. Like I pretended that I didn't stop. I would pick something up and I would play something, and now I just completely stopped and over COVID again. My friend Mark Marris was like, what a good opportunity. You have nothing but time on your hands. Why don't you start playing the piano again? And he was right, And I tried and I just couldn't. It is just torture for me to play the piano. That was one thing I was able to give up, you know, Like when I was a kid, I took a lot of piano lessons. You know, at one point I thought maybe I was going to be like a concert pianist, and I really really made the effort, and you know, it really was very, very very hard. It didn't come as naturally to me as some of the other things I do. And music comes very naturally to me. Singing comes very naturally to me, but not playing the piano, not playing an instrument, you know, but luckily I learned to do it, and luckily I can read music, so this comes in very handy for me.

I used to play an instrument. I played piano for years and years and years, and then I just stopped. Like I pretended that I didn't stop. I would pick something up and I would play something, and now I just completely stopped and over COVID again. My friend Mark Marris was like, what a good opportunity. You have nothing but time on your hands. Why don't you start playing the piano again? And he was right, And I tried and I just couldn't. It is just torture for me to play the piano. That was one thing I was able to give up, you know, Like when I was a kid, I took a lot of piano lessons. You know, at one point I thought maybe I was going to be like a concert pianist, and I really really made the effort, and you know, it really was very, very very hard. It didn't come as naturally to me as some of the other things I do. And music comes very naturally to me. Singing comes very naturally to me, but not playing the piano, not playing an instrument, you know, but luckily I learned to do it, and luckily I can read music, so this comes in very handy for me.

And you've written lyrics for songs.

And you've written lyrics for songs.

I have written lyrics, and I am in the process of writing more lyrics.

I have written lyrics, and I am in the process of writing more lyrics.

So okay, well, also an album soon, please. I feel like everyone's been asking for this, for this album. Yes, well, okay, how about this? What do you want your obituary to say?

So okay, well, also an album soon, please. I feel like everyone's been asking for this, for this album. Yes, well, okay, how about this? What do you want your obituary to say?

You know, And here's the thing. I'm glad this is like a forum. This is like an Isaac Brandon forum.

You know, And here's the thing. I'm glad this is like a forum. This is like an Isaac Brandon forum.

This is a safe space.

This is a safe space.

A safe space because here's the thing about oh bits. It drives me crazy. I think about it all the time. You know, there are certain oh bits that have made me more crazy, either in their placement, like way in the back on the worst page, in like a corner on the bottom with that worst picture.

A safe space because here's the thing about oh bits. It drives me crazy. I think about it all the time. You know, there are certain oh bits that have made me more crazy, either in their placement, like way in the back on the worst page, in like a corner on the bottom with that worst picture.

It would kill you, right, it would kill me, right right?

It would kill you, right, it would kill me, right right?

Did you ever read Marlon Brando's A Bit Right, No, I'm not kidding you. The first paragraph or the headline was something like Marlon Brando, the brilliant actor who was supposed to be a huge legendary star and wasn't, you know, And it's like, okay, he wasn't. Like this is news to me. He failed. Yes, the whole oh bit was about how Marlon Brando didn't really accomplish what he set out to accomplish, you know, Like that's the problem with my whole operating sort of philosophy, which is that you know, you stick to a plan and you do what you were supposed to do, and then you're a bit. You don't have to worry about it because it's clear to the world that you did what you were supposed to do, yeh know, yes, Whereas like, you know, right now, I don't feel like it's clear that the world under stands what I'm supposed to do, okay, right, And so I'm afraid if I die tomorrow, a bit will not say the right thing.

Did you ever read Marlon Brando's A Bit Right, No, I'm not kidding you. The first paragraph or the headline was something like Marlon Brando, the brilliant actor who was supposed to be a huge legendary star and wasn't, you know, And it's like, okay, he wasn't. Like this is news to me. He failed. Yes, the whole oh bit was about how Marlon Brando didn't really accomplish what he set out to accomplish, you know, Like that's the problem with my whole operating sort of philosophy, which is that you know, you stick to a plan and you do what you were supposed to do, and then you're a bit. You don't have to worry about it because it's clear to the world that you did what you were supposed to do, yeh know, yes, Whereas like, you know, right now, I don't feel like it's clear that the world under stands what I'm supposed to do, okay, right, And so I'm afraid if I die tomorrow, a bit will not say the right thing.

What do you know, it's gonna say like legendary, famed, you.

What do you know, it's gonna say like legendary, famed, you.

Know, No, it's going to say like I did a lot of things.

Know, No, it's going to say like I did a lot of things.

That did a lot of stuff.

That did a lot of stuff.

Right, But I feel as though, you know, I have yet to like write a very very good novel. I have yet to appear on stage and thrill some kind of like you know, critical massive people. You know, that was the plan. That was what I was supposed to be remembered by. So oh bits are really really important to me. And then you talk to Jake Cohen, or you talk to Solely Dot O'Brien, or you talk to a lot of people and you ask this question and they go, you know, I want Solely Dot o brian said this thing to me, and I swear to god, she really opened a light bulb in my brain. She said, you know what I just wanted to say, like, you know, Solidad O'Brien, wife, mother, blah blah. She was a good person, you know, yeah, And I think maybe that's all I want from my obituary, Isaac Mizrahi. She was a good person, you know what I mean, Like, maybe that's what it's all about, just being a good person. And I remember I had this shrink for twenty five years. You know, I've been in therapy since I literally in first grade, so eight years old right till now. And I recently have found a new shrink about eight years ago. Right, But the shrink I was with for twenty five years he died, well, he was very old. He died at like ninety six or something like that. And it was kind of devastating because we were right in the middle. I knew it was coming because you were a ninety six year old shrink. You're kind of expecting something, right, you don't laugh, don't laught. But anyway, he was like the center of my world. He was such a father figure, such a friend figure. And he used to say to me, Isaac, Isaac, Isaac, stop with that, stopping And this was what I loved about hi, because you are not supposed to say things. He would say, Isaac, you are a good person. Usually you do the good right, just thing. And when he would say that to me, I would stop and go, Okay, you know that's it, that's enough. So I think I want to be a good person. He was a good person. Yeah, yes, yeah, and he failed at everything he tried to.

Right, But I feel as though, you know, I have yet to like write a very very good novel. I have yet to appear on stage and thrill some kind of like you know, critical massive people. You know, that was the plan. That was what I was supposed to be remembered by. So oh bits are really really important to me. And then you talk to Jake Cohen, or you talk to Solely Dot O'Brien, or you talk to a lot of people and you ask this question and they go, you know, I want Solely Dot o brian said this thing to me, and I swear to god, she really opened a light bulb in my brain. She said, you know what I just wanted to say, like, you know, Solidad O'Brien, wife, mother, blah blah. She was a good person, you know, yeah, And I think maybe that's all I want from my obituary, Isaac Mizrahi. She was a good person, you know what I mean, Like, maybe that's what it's all about, just being a good person. And I remember I had this shrink for twenty five years. You know, I've been in therapy since I literally in first grade, so eight years old right till now. And I recently have found a new shrink about eight years ago. Right, But the shrink I was with for twenty five years he died, well, he was very old. He died at like ninety six or something like that. And it was kind of devastating because we were right in the middle. I knew it was coming because you were a ninety six year old shrink. You're kind of expecting something, right, you don't laugh, don't laught. But anyway, he was like the center of my world. He was such a father figure, such a friend figure. And he used to say to me, Isaac, Isaac, Isaac, stop with that, stopping And this was what I loved about hi, because you are not supposed to say things. He would say, Isaac, you are a good person. Usually you do the good right, just thing. And when he would say that to me, I would stop and go, Okay, you know that's it, that's enough. So I think I want to be a good person. He was a good person. Yeah, yes, yeah, and he failed at everything he tried to.

Do right awful in the car and stuff like that.

Do right awful in the car and stuff like that.

Exactly right.

Exactly right.

Okay, So last question, what do you have to promote on this podcast?

Okay, So last question, what do you have to promote on this podcast?

Me, what do I have to promote? Well, you know, aside from thee hundred million things that I do constantly, we have a lot of shows coming up, and I'm not exactly sure when or where this is. Okay, a few, So go on my website, which is Hello Isaac dot com and look him up and come to my shows. Please. That's what I'm promoting. Yes, and world peace, of course, and world peace. I'd like to the world peace.

Me, what do I have to promote? Well, you know, aside from thee hundred million things that I do constantly, we have a lot of shows coming up, and I'm not exactly sure when or where this is. Okay, a few, So go on my website, which is Hello Isaac dot com and look him up and come to my shows. Please. That's what I'm promoting. Yes, and world peace, of course, and world peace. I'd like to the world peace.

Right exactly. Okay, this has been fun, so fun?

Right exactly. Okay, this has been fun, so fun?

How is that over? God? You know, it just goes by so fast. Don't forget that, darling. Youth is gone. I take advantage of your youth, I mean it. God, that's my final closing thought. Take advantage damn youth if you can call it youth anymore. Okay, all right, why bye? I have to say I could get very used to this where I am asked the questions and I answer the questions. It's so much fun. I have to say. I love it, and I want to thank you all so much for asking me so many great questions which brought out so many things about my own bit. I mean, I had never really kind of answered that question in such detail before or the question about stage fright and Liza's amazing advice. Anyway, what a fun, fun, fun podcast. I hope you liked it. Thank you so much for joining Darlings. If you enjoyed this episode, do me a favorite and tell someone, tell a friend, tell your mother, tell your cousin, tell everyone you know. Okay, and be sure to rate the show. I love rating stuff. Go on and rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts so more people can hear about it. It makes such a gigantic difference and like it takes a second, So go on and do it. And if you want more fun content videos and posts of all kinds, follow the show on Instagram and TikTok at Hello Isaac podcast And by the way, check me out on Instagram and TikTok at. I Am Isaac Musrahi. This is Isaac Msrahi. Thank you. I love you and I never thought I say this, but goodbye Isaac. Hello Isaac is produced by Imagine Audio Awfully Nice and I AM Entertainment for I Heeart Media. The series is hosted by me Isaac Musrahi. Hello Isaac is produced by Robin Gelfenbein. The senior producers are Jesse Burton and John Assanti vis Executive produced by Ron Howard, Brian Grazerkarra Welker, and Nathan Cloke at Imagined Audio, Production management from Katie Hodges, Sound design and mixing by Cedric Wilson. Original music composed by Ben Waltzon. A special thanks to Neil Phelps and Sarah katzmak at i AM Entertainment

How is that over? God? You know, it just goes by so fast. Don't forget that, darling. Youth is gone. I take advantage of your youth, I mean it. God, that's my final closing thought. Take advantage damn youth if you can call it youth anymore. Okay, all right, why bye? I have to say I could get very used to this where I am asked the questions and I answer the questions. It's so much fun. I have to say. I love it, and I want to thank you all so much for asking me so many great questions which brought out so many things about my own bit. I mean, I had never really kind of answered that question in such detail before or the question about stage fright and Liza's amazing advice. Anyway, what a fun, fun, fun podcast. I hope you liked it. Thank you so much for joining Darlings. If you enjoyed this episode, do me a favorite and tell someone, tell a friend, tell your mother, tell your cousin, tell everyone you know. Okay, and be sure to rate the show. I love rating stuff. Go on and rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts so more people can hear about it. It makes such a gigantic difference and like it takes a second, So go on and do it. And if you want more fun content videos and posts of all kinds, follow the show on Instagram and TikTok at Hello Isaac podcast And by the way, check me out on Instagram and TikTok at. I Am Isaac Musrahi. This is Isaac Msrahi. Thank you. I love you and I never thought I say this, but goodbye Isaac. Hello Isaac is produced by Imagine Audio Awfully Nice and I AM Entertainment for I Heeart Media. The series is hosted by me Isaac Musrahi. Hello Isaac is produced by Robin Gelfenbein. The senior producers are Jesse Burton and John Assanti vis Executive produced by Ron Howard, Brian Grazerkarra Welker, and Nathan Cloke at Imagined Audio, Production management from Katie Hodges, Sound design and mixing by Cedric Wilson. Original music composed by Ben Waltzon. A special thanks to Neil Phelps and Sarah katzmak at i AM Entertainment