Packing a healthy lunch that you or your kids actually want to eat is a constant challenge for busy households. Healthy Food Guide dietitian Jess Burvill and nutritionist and mum-of-three Kathleen Alleaume share expert tips on what to include to keep everyone going throughout the day. Plus, they deliver their verdict on whether ham sandwiches are in or out.

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