Jared and Adam Cherrington started cooking up the idea for this episode while sitting in the back of a shuttle bus at Swaay.Health Live. The two discuss how to keep the voice of the patient a priority, where patient experience and consumer centricity overlap, and what they’re both seeing in these areas that give them hope … and frustration. 

All that, plus the Flava of the Week about whole-body scans. How do they work, who are the main players, and what’s their true value in a consumer’s constellation of care? 

ANNOUNCING RAP COLLABORATIVES 

Exciting news! We’re launching Rap Collaboratives, curated workgroups of founders, builders, and operators working together to grow the adoption of consumer-centered health. Through content, community, and co-creation, members help shape what’s next and get their perspective in front of the industry. 

Reach out on LinkedIn to learn more. 

(#511) 

Jared and Adam Cherrington started cooking up the idea for this episode while sitting in the back of a shuttle bus at Swaay.Health Live. The two discuss how to keep the voice of the patient a priority, where patient experience and consumer centricity overlap, and what they&rsquo;re both seeing in these areas that give them hope &hellip; and frustration.&nbsp;
All that, plus the Flava of the Week about whole-body scans. How do they work, who are the main players, and what&rsquo;s their true value in a consumer&rsquo;s constellation of care?&nbsp;
ANNOUNCING RAP COLLABORATIVES&nbsp;
Exciting news! We&rsquo;re launching Rap Collaboratives, curated workgroups of founders, builders, and operators working together to grow the adoption of consumer-centered health. Through content, community, and co-creation, members help shape what&rsquo;s next and get their perspective in front of the industry.&nbsp;
Reach out on LinkedIn to learn more.&nbsp;
(#511)&nbsp;

Healthcare Rap is the leading podcast about how consumer health works. Hosts Jared Johnson and Zain Ismail spotlight how healthcare is being designed, marketed, and delivered from the consumer point of view and profile leaders who are championing the move to preventive care.

It is one of the longest-lasting podcasts in the industry, passing 500 episodes and 8 years on the air, and ranks in the top 5% of all podcasts globally. Highlights include CEOs, founders and other senior leaders from Oura, Whoop, Noom, Superpower, Novo Nordisk, Best Buy Health, CVS Health, Google, Microsoft, and hundreds more.

Topics for 2026: 
Connected fitness 
GLP-1's / weight loss 
Wearables
Longevity and diagnostics 
Food as medicine / nutrition 
Preventive health and wellness 
Digital Front Door 
Nontraditional care models - direct primary care, retail care, health at home, digital health, functional and integrative health 
Digital health and consumer brands making waves and new entrants making a splash 

Topics not covered: 
Clinical leadership 
Cybersecurity 
Health information management 
Interoperability 
Revenue cycle 

<a href="https://healthcarerap.com/"></a>Healthcare Rap <a href="https://healthcarerap.com/"></a>is the leading podcast about how consumer health works. Hosts Jared Johnson and Zain Ismail spotlight how healthcare is being designed, marketed, and delivered from the consumer point of view and profile leaders who are championing the move to preventive care.
It is one of the longest-lasting podcasts in the industry, passing 500 episodes and 8 years on the air, and <a href="https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/healthcare-rap-shift-forward-health-dAvhm_j30sN/">ranks in the top 5% of all podcasts globally</a>. Highlights include CEOs, founders and other senior leaders from Oura, Whoop, Noom, Superpower, Novo Nordisk, Best Buy Health, CVS Health, Google, Microsoft, and hundreds more.
Topics for 2026:&nbsp;
<ul>
<li>Connected fitness&nbsp;</li>
<li>GLP-1's / weight loss&nbsp;</li>
<li>Wearables</li>
<li>Longevity and diagnostics&nbsp;</li>
<li>Food as medicine / nutrition&nbsp;</li>
<li>Preventive health and wellness&nbsp;</li>
<li>Digital Front Door&nbsp;</li>
<li>Nontraditional care models - direct primary care, retail care, health at home, digital health, functional and integrative health&nbsp;</li>
<li>Digital health and consumer brands making waves and new entrants making a splash&nbsp;</li>
</ul>
Topics not&nbsp;covered:&nbsp;
<ul>
<li>Clinical leadership&nbsp;</li>
<li>Cybersecurity&nbsp;</li>
<li>Health information management&nbsp;</li>
<li>Interoperability&nbsp;</li>
<li>Revenue cycle&nbsp;</li>
</ul>

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Where do Patient Experience & Consumer Centricity Intersect? (#511)

Nathan Shatz, founder of SuperBiome, reveals the results of Jared's skin microbiome test live on the air, explains how germs are good, and shares how it motivated him when people told him he was too young to be a founder. 

All that, plus the Flava of the Week about whether GLP-1’s will be more disruptive than AI. Does it mean that we can sometimes get lost in the current ways that healthcare grows its profits and forget that society’s better off with less chronic disease? 

ANNOUNCING RAP COLLABORATIVES 

Exciting news! We’re launching Rap Collaboratives, curated workgroups of founders, builders, and operators working together to grow the adoption of consumer-centered health. Through content, community, and co-creation, members help shape what’s next and get their perspective in front of the industry. 

Reach out on LinkedIn to learn more. 

(#512) 

Nathan Shatz, founder of SuperBiome, reveals the results of Jared's skin microbiome test live on the air, explains how germs are good, and shares how it motivated him when people told him he was too young to be a founder.&nbsp;
All that, plus the Flava of the Week about whether GLP-1&rsquo;s will be more disruptive than AI. Does it mean that we can sometimes get lost in the current ways that healthcare grows its profits and forget that society&rsquo;s better off with less chronic disease?&nbsp;
ANNOUNCING RAP COLLABORATIVES&nbsp;
Exciting news! We&rsquo;re launching Rap Collaboratives, curated workgroups of founders, builders, and operators working together to grow the adoption of consumer-centered health. Through content, community, and co-creation, members help shape what&rsquo;s next and get their perspective in front of the industry.&nbsp;
Reach out on LinkedIn to learn more.&nbsp;
(#512)&nbsp;

The Skin Microbiome Revolution: Personalized Skincare Without the Guesswork (#512)

SiPhox Health Co-Founder and CEO Michael Dubrovsky joins Jared at Nourishing Change to discuss the future of at-home blood testing, preventative health, and how AI is transforming health analysis. They explore how accessible testing can empower individuals to live longer, healthier lives and the innovations driving this movement. 

SiPhox Health Co-Founder and CEO Michael Dubrovsky joins Jared at Nourishing Change to discuss&nbsp;the future of at-home blood testing, preventative health, and how AI is transforming health analysis. They explore how accessible testing can empower individuals to live longer, healthier lives and the innovations driving this movement.&nbsp;

BONUS: SiPhox Health's Michael Dubrovsky on the Future of Home Blood Testing (#510)

Dr. Payam Zamani, CEO and Founder of MY DR NOW, shares how you don’t need urgent care if you do primary care right, how outcomes improve when you make it easy for patients to be compliant, and whether he thinks patients using LLMs are good for business. 

All that, plus the Flava of the Week about the Nourishing Change conference. How did the conference’s attendee mix reflect the collaboration that needs to happen to make healthcare more preventive, and how much progress is possible if you and I join the Movement?

ANNOUNCING RAP COLLABORATIVES 

Exciting news! We’re launching Rap Collaboratives, curated workgroups of founders, builders, and operators working together to grow the adoption of consumer-centered health. Through content, community, and co-creation, members help shape what’s next and get their perspective in front of the industry. 

Reach out on LinkedIn to learn more. 

(#509) 

 

Dr. Payam Zamani, CEO and Founder of MY DR NOW, shares how you don&rsquo;t need urgent care if you do primary care right, how outcomes improve when you make it easy for patients to be compliant, and whether he thinks patients using LLMs are good for business.&nbsp;
All that, plus the Flava of the Week about the Nourishing Change conference. How did the conference&rsquo;s attendee mix reflect the collaboration that needs to happen to make healthcare more preventive, and how much progress is possible if you and I join the Movement?
ANNOUNCING RAP COLLABORATIVES&nbsp;
Exciting news! We&rsquo;re launching Rap Collaboratives, curated workgroups of founders, builders, and operators working together to grow the adoption of consumer-centered health. Through content, community, and co-creation, members help shape what&rsquo;s next and get their perspective in front of the industry.&nbsp;
Reach out on LinkedIn to learn more.&nbsp;
(#509)&nbsp;
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Where do Patient Experience & Consumer Centricity Intersect? (#511)

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