Dr. Owen Strachan interviews Neil Shenvi of Shenvi Apologetics, and they talk about the rise of what some are calling the "woke right". They discuss how Neil got interested in critical theory and wokeness, and how he began to understand critical race theory. They also explore the similarities between the woke left and the woke right, including the division of society into oppressors and oppressed, the reliance on hegemonic norms, and the goal of achieving social justice. They emphasize the importance of gospel unity in Christ and the need to reject both left-wing and right-wing wokeness.