今年5月29日，巴西总统卢拉在与委内瑞拉总统举行的联合记者会上再次提到“去美元化”。卢拉说他梦想能拥有一种非美元的区域性货币，这样巴西和委内瑞拉就可以不依赖美元来进行贸易。

这已经不是卢拉第一次公开谈到“去美元化”。他曾经发表文章质疑，为什么所有国家都要用美元来进行贸易结算。卢拉也主张金砖国家应该建立一个统一的货币体系。今年四月，卢拉访问中国时就提出了类似的观点。

什么是“去美元化”？国际上常常说的美元霸权地位是什么意思？“去美元化”对国际货币与金融秩序又会带来什么影响？

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The US dollar’s status as the global reserve currency for international trade has been called into question again. On May 29th, Brazilian President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva repeated the de-dollarisation call during a press conference and expressed his dream of having a regional currency that is not tied to the US dollar.

This is not the first time Lula has openly talked about de-dollarisation. He previously wrote articles questioning the need for all countries to base their trade on the US dollar, and supported the creation of an alternative currency for trading between BRICS countries. During his visit to China in April, he reiterated the call to shed dollar dependence. 

What is "de-dollarisation"? What is the impact of “de-dollarisation” on the international monetary system and global financial order?  

In this episode of Global Heartbeat podcast, Associate Professor of Finance from the Singapore Management University’s Lee Kong Chian School of Business, Fu Fangjian, shares his insights with host Han Yong Hong. 

Hosted by Lianhe Zaobao’s Associate Editor, Han Yong Hong, Global Heartbeat is a Mandarin weekly news and current affairs podcast that is updated every Tuesday, 7.00 PM SGT. It is available on zaobao.sg, Apple Podcast, Google Podcasts, Spotify and other podcast platforms.