Ghosted! by Roz HernandezListener Phone Call Extravaganza Part XXVI
Roz talks to Audrey who lives in a haunted house in an allegedly cursed part of Los Angeles, Rob who may have encountered black eyed children, Katie who worked at a spooky mission, and Stephanie who played a Ouija board at a historical college!
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What's that at the foot of my bed.
It's spooky.
Hey jooky, I'm pretty sure it's dead. It's coming this way.
Wait a minute, Hey, I'm goosted.
Hiro dressed.
Hey boo, it's me it Roz. Oh, it's my favorite time of the month. Time for a listener phone Call Extravaganza. Well today we've got some great stories for you, and we've got a pretty long clip on Patreon this week. There's a lot of stories here. We got Audrey telling a story about a spirit that had been attached to her as a child. I've also got a story that is on the Patreon this week from Katie who worked at a haunted theater, and Stephanie has a story about a ghost in a pool which should be off limits for ghosts, but very fascinating story. So go check that out on my second tier patroonpatron dot com slash Roz jez Velez. Also, there's a link in the description of this episode. Okay, here we go, the twenty sixth Listener Phone Call Extravaganza on with the show Oh my God. I am joined by Audrey, who is in Los Angeles. Hi, Ajie, how are you Hi?
How are you?
I am great, and I'm so excited to talk to you because you live in one of the most interesting parts of Los Angeles. You live in Benedict Canyon, which I want to say has come up on this podcast. You know when it's probably come up on this podcast is early on Ooh, you'd have to go back into the archives when I had on David Ohm who yes on Celo Drive, you know, right next to where the unfortunate Manson murder, Sharon Tate murder occurred, and we probably talked about Benedict Kenye. It's something that I talk about often with people because it's known for being cursed. Have you heard about this?
I wish I knew this before I bought the house.
I didn't purtune you together.
I knew things happened. I knew the Tate murders, but I didn't know where that was in Los Angeles until I did research and I could actually walk to David Omen's house.
It's not that far.
I mean, it's like, you know, if you believe, and occurs, like I don't know, it's just something that people say and they have said for a long time, just because there's been a lot of unfortunate events that have taken place there. And when we talked to David, he was talking about the science y aspect of it, having to do with the electromagnetic waves, and right.
You, I've heard different stories that I honestly don't understand. I think I've heard like it's on a landline, which I don't know what that is, or like some Native American curse on the canyon.
So I'm not sure, right, yeah, but there's just there has been I mean, anyone listening to this, if you want to look it up, there's been like a lot of murders and you know, like a lot of kind of high end like movie star deaths and mysterious kind of a lot of that has happened since, like I mean, it's long, I don't know, a long time. So uh yeah, it's a it's a mysterious place to say the least. But now, what is your experience living there?
Okay?
So I found this house like fifteen years ago when I got lost and I pulled over and I happened to pull over in front of this house. So fast forward a few more years it was for sale and but.
What do you mean you're lost trying to find something? And then you're like, ooh.
I was visiting her friend's house and she lives around here where she used to live around here. And it was back in the day when you didn't have your smartphone and you had to print out the directions at home and then follow them in the car.
Oh, map quest, map quest.
It was map quest days. So I got lost up here and I didn't know where to go. I was overwhelmed.
I couldn't have I didn't have any cell service, so I pulled over and I just happened to pull over in front of what my house is now. And it was just like I was so attracted to this house, and like a creep, I would come visit the house for years. I would drive by it because it just I was so attracted to it for some reason. It's not the nicest looking house either. It's like a weird cottage surrounded by like these nicer homes. But if I really came for sale, I put an offer on it, even though I couldn't afford it, and they somehow accepted it.
I moved in and.
Then later learned that the woman who lived here before me was also named Audrey, and she died in the house. So I don't know how is that anything to do with how I got the house? But I had a weird attraction to it for years, and somehow I got it when I lived here.
So is Audrey hanging around.
Or what I think?
So it was pretty peaceful for like the first couple of months, and then I did renovations with the house, which now I know, when you do renovations on a house, it can't upset any spirits that live here. So I started to feel like someone was watching me. I would smell perfume like in a construction zone. I would smell cigarettes at night when I was alone in here and things would be moved around. I would ask the construction guys like, oh, we don't go in this room. So I kept he and seeing things that I could not explain, and it was like an unwelcoming feeling.
For a while.
And then I contacted a psychic and so so she told me, oh, someone's in here.
She used to live here.
She's upset that you're here. She thinks you're ruining her house. So she suggested that I talk to her, like, talk to her like she was in the room, and tell her my intentions. I'm not here to ruin her house. She can stays she wants, but I bring her no harm. So after that, to this day, I still feel her, but it doesn't feel so scary anymore. But so that's on her. But I think the scariest thing that's happened, and this is what I think Benedet Canning has to do with it. So I was starting to feel like there was a male energy. I don't know if you had anyone.
Tell you that.
Some how you can tell if it's a female or if it's a male energy around. So one night I woke up in the middle night and there was a man sitting at the corner of my bed. What yeah, And he was very angry. He was in an army jacket. My dogs were terrified, and he was just sitting there stared at me. So by the time I go to turn on the light, he's gone. Two days later, I see him again. Well, I'm getting ready for bed, like in the back in the in the mirror in back of me.
Oh that is some horror movie shit right there.
Right.
So I'm like, okay, I can't stay here anymore. I can't stay here tonight. But no one was picking up their phone. I don't know where to go. That night, it was ready late, so I went to sleep. Middle of the night, my dogs were barking like crazy. They were barking at something in the dining room, and so I went to go checked and they were like in a trance. They were barking at nothing and they would not be quiet. And usually when I tell him to stop barking, they stopped barking. They didn't stop barking. So I went down to pick them up, and all of a sudden, it felt like someone pushed me as back as hard as they could, and then I hit my head on my dining table, split my head open, and it felt like yeah, and it felt like there was someone in the dining room with me when I hit my head, So I believe it was that guy who I saw the last the previous night.
Okay, is he back right now? Because I heard that dog yelpin.
Yeah, I know he's not back.
You know, I'm not sure he might be because they bark at random things.
So whatever happened to him.
After that, I had a I guess a medium or spiritual healer come. She cleared the space, and then my overly religious mom came and like showered that she washed the table with holy water, she sprinkled it everywhere, prayed, and then I think he's gone. But I still hear and see things, but I think it's the previous owner, the other Audrey. I don't think that guy's here anymore.
Oh my god, who is the guy?
I was told by a psydkick that he was like an angry Vietnam Vet, and he, I guess passed away from drugs. I don't know if he lived here. I don't know his connection to the house. I tried to do research. I couldn't find anything about him, but apparently he was very angry and he didn't want me here. I don't know what his connection to the house is though.
Strange God, I wonder if the other Audrey had to deal with him.
I don't know, you know.
I asked my neighbor, my current Neighbritain. They lived next to her for a few years. They said she was very sweet, but she was very odd. Like she would she would have the house lights on twenty four hours of a day, and she would always keep her curtains open some no matter what TIMEY passed by her house, you could see right in her house four I am. All the lights were on, so maybe she was scared too that maybe she's maybe she saw things or I don't.
Know, she's probably haunting you because she's like, that's that lady that used to.
Creep from my house.
My house.
Yeah, she used to watch weed like the cree She's getting me back for all those years I fought her.
I think the most spectacular part of this story is that you live in LA and you talk to your neighbors. Oh right, I don't know any of my names.
I tried to avoid them, but I was very curious about this woman. So I had to ask someone.
So, what how often would you say things you know happen nowadays there that you sense Audrey.
Pretty often? I'd probably say a couple of times in a month.
Really.
Yeah, So.
I think she was a smoker, and we're very strong perfume because I feel like she's around. It's like a big whiff of cigarette smoking perfume passes by and it gets very cold in here, and then like things start to not malfunction new like new appliance will malfunction when I feel like she's around, and all of a sudden, the work again.
That's perfume. And cigarettes like go hand in hand because I think I'm a former smoker and I feel like when you're smoker, you're like, Oh, if I just spray a bunch of perfume, no one will ever, I'll never suspects a thing. Oh well, this is interesting. Have you thought about doing I don't know, another seance or having someone else come in or is it pretty peaceful? Would you say, for the most.
Part, is pretty peaceful.
I'm kind of nervous to push it because that guy who I think pushed me into the table came after I had a psychic come in, so I don't know if it upset the energy in here or maybe me searching for something brought something up, don't I don't know if I just leave it how it is because I feel okay for the most part.
Was this the psychic that picked up on him?
Yes, but I was after like he came and visited me in bed and then, uh what, I think he pushed me, but I'm not sure I was.
You've never seen the woman.
I've heard her, like a woman's voice.
What did she say?
I'll always hear.
Like like, I'm like, is that my mother?
Is my mother?
Here?
Like?
But no, one's ever here. So I just think, oh my god, am I going crazy? But it's always like a whispering voice, like a older woman, and I hear.
Is she talking about you or her?
I don't know. I hope it's that woman. I hope it's not like something else that I have to deal with, but I don't.
I don't think I've seen her, but I have heard her and I've smelled her.
Oh my god. Okay, well this is god. Hey do you want to hear a ghost voice?
Yes?
Okay, absolutely, it's that for EV.
Or ev pase. Okay, so you know how this works? What do YouTube? I find EV be electronic voice phenomenal, and you know this is this is what people believe as a ghost speaking. And I'm gonna play it for you and we're gonna guess what this ghost is saying. Now, this one, I will say, there's a little bit of Usually I don't choose them like this, but I found this one kind of interesting. But there was there's I try to get them pretty clean, you know, like just when it's kind of quiet and then a ghost talks. But I mean you kind of get what you get when you're recording ghosts and In this one, there's people. They are kind of talking and you can hear the ghost like cut in for a second, so you'll have to like really really tune into it. But it's a ghost kind of yelling something in the background. Of course it's a quick little clip. But here, I'll play it and then we'll talk about it. All right, what's this ghost saying?
Okay?
It's the one in the background that's like no, na.
Wait, so there's a there's a woman and then there's a ghost in the background.
Yes, okay, So I play it again. It's like it's like there's like a beat, like someone says something and then it's like no, nah, and then they say something again. But but we're listening for that. Na Okay, here it is. You hear what I'm talking about?
Are they saying no?
No?
Or mom?
I don't know?
Okay, am I played again?
Okay?
Oh?
Wait now here get lost? Yeah?
I hear two syllables. I think get lost. Ooh that's good, get.
Lost, get lost away? Oh.
I didn't even say where this came from. This is from NJ dot com New Jersey dot com, I believe NJ dot com And it's at a place called the Emmlin Psychic Estate in Cape May, New Jersey. Okay, so here's some options. Do they think it says, hey, it's mine? Is it B bring back Vine? Do you remember Vine a simple time before? TikTok? Maybe it's a ghost of a Vine star.
Maybe is it C I'm fine or.
D Chris Pine? Okay, let's play it again. What do you hear?
I keep hearing get left, but I'm gonna go I'm fine.
They believe it's it's mine. I don't know what they're referring to, but let's hear it again now that we know that, well, I could hear it. I don't know. It could be a lot of things. I mean, it's just like too loud syllables, but that's what they say.
Can I ask a question? Whenever you look up EVPs online, do you ever get spooped out being at home after?
Yes?
Oh my god, especially because so many of them are just no offense to anyone that's out there looking for it, but like not great, like I I'll be. I'll spend literally sometimes hours trying to find two EVPs that are like decent, and I'll find I listen to so many that are just bad. There are a lot of times people edit them. I think they're trying to make it sound better, but it just like makes it sound robotic and weird. There's just a lot of different ways that it can sound bad. So then after hearing a bunch of those, then when I find like the one, that's when I get real creeped out where I'm like, oh, oh damn, I think that was like a real like that that actually sounded like something creepy, right.
I Usually I cannot listen to them in the house.
I get freaked down.
I can't be here.
Well, yeah, I mean because you also have someone whispering your name.
Are someone's around?
Well, Audrey, I guess that's about it for this time. But keep me updated on your your friend, your roommate.
My roommate, Audrey.
Yeah, all right, it was so great talking to you.
You too, Keep in touch. I've been ghosted too. I am joined by Rob in Indiana. Hello, Rob? How are you?
I'm good? How are you?
I am great? I I am especially curious to talk to you after what I was reading what you sent me. You have encountered the black Eyed children, I believe so. And we're not talking about Fergie and will I am. We are talking about the Black Eyed Children, which we've talked about on the show a little bit. I know that the Black Eyed Children are a paranormal podcast favorite. I've heard a lot of people talk about them. I haven't heard from very many people that have encountered them. I think one time on the show, Bonnie McKee, the singer songwriter, when she was on, she had an experience that I kind of speculated like, maybe that was a black Eyed Children scenario.
Remember that episode?
Yeah, but now I want to hear about your experience. Okay, So what happened?
So I didn't really realize what it was until after I heard a podcast about black Eyed Children because I had never heard of them, so when it happened, I didn't really put it together. But essentially what happened was I had just moved into my new apartment in Indianapolis. I was there for about a week and I was just sitting there and I heard a knock on my door, and so I went to it. And I was in not the greatest part of Indianapolis, so I didn't just open it right up, but I looked at my people and there were two individuals, young people. They were turned kind of to the side facing each other. They wanted to sell me magazines, which I thought was strange, and they had a really strange way of speaking. It was very kind of monotone and very rehearsed performative in a weird way.
And at first I was like, Okay, it's just some kids.
But then they started trying to get into the apartment, which really bothered me, and they would say weird things.
Had you opened the door at this point.
No, I was still looking at my people talking to them. I did not want to open the door because I was getting a very strange feeling from what was happening.
Whow So what were they What were they saying?
Well, first they wanted to sell me magazines, and then they just said it, kept asking if they could come in. And the part where it really kind of made me think something was odd was one of them said, can we come in for a nice cool glass of water? Like that was literally what they said, and I thought, we lot, it's not something people would say.
No.
It really kind of freaked me out, and so I stopped responding and they kept knocking on the door.
I feel like if you put adjectives in front of something like that you're an alien.
Or something very weird, and say can I.
Have some water? You don't say nice cool?
Yeah, And it was very that much came. It was like, can we come in for some nice cool water?
No? No, no.
And I'm a teacher. I've talked to teenagers many, many times. Teenagers don't talk like that. It's just not something that is usual. So well, I kept trying to get a good look at them. They were definitely young people, and they were turned to the.
Side of me.
I couldn't really see their faces, but when one of them turned, I couldn't really see what was going on in their eyes. I'm not going to say it was black necessarily, but I definitely couldn't see clear definition in their eyes because they wouldn't.
Face the door.
So after a while they went away, eventually after I very kind of defiantly told them to leave, and then a couple I think it was a year or so later, I listened to a podcast and somebody started talking about black eyed children and I thought, oh my god, that sounds eerily similar to what happened at my apartment, just the way they spoke and their persistence in wanting to come inside for kind of no reason. It really bothered me after it happened.
Oh yeah, So basically the story. As far as I know, it's been a couple It's been maybe a year or so since the last time I got into black eyed children. But it's like, they knock on your door, they really want to get inside. They have black eyes, they usually have some kind of they give people a feeling of dread, and they seem to be just like children, their teens or whatever. And I'm always unsure about what happens if you let them in. Me too, you don't want to find out.
Apparently they did not find out Whoa.
They were kind of magazines they were selling.
When they weren't holding anything, which is also it gave me a little bit of pause. They didn't have anything with them, like to write things down, and I was like, well, how are you going to remember who you're selling?
Magazine? It was just very strange.
When was this.
This would have been twenty ten.
Okay, so magazines were still kind of a thing at though they were still.
Because I worked for the Canadian phone Book at the time, so Prince was still fairly alive on its way out, but no WHOA.
So then never again. You never saw them again.
Setting, Yeah, it was very unsettling, and I didn't put it together until after I heard somebody talk about it, because I never heard of these children before, but it was it was They definitely gave off.
A really odd vibe.
That was you could you know, sometimes when you meet people or something happens, you're like, I definitely shouldn't engage with that.
That's the vibe they were giving off to me.
So whoa, Yeah, I mean that's interesting that you didn't open the door. I mean good, but you must have really felt I'm kind of vibe.
Yeah, they were not giving off a friendly type of energy, and it was just strange the way they spoke and their cadence and it's kind of hard to describe the way they spoke, but it had no like motion behind it in a way, if that makes sense.
Huh.
They just really wanted to get inside the apartment.
That is so creepy. I think anytime somebody knocks on my door. It recently happened, which it doesn't happen often, and it happened at nighttime, somebody knocked on my door and it was terrifying. But yeah, to add all of that ooh, I'm counting it. That is a black eyed children's story. I'm counting it.
And even if, like you said, it wasn't necessarily them, it was still creepy.
But I just the nice cold water of it, that's that's. Yeah. So it's like you know, of course, no one knows, but people theorize that it's they could be aliens, they could be you know, it could be a lot of different things.
I saw an interesting thing.
People theorize that it's like children who have committed violent acts turning into black eyed children.
I thought, oh gosh, oh, I hope that's not the case.
They have to sell magazines for eternity.
Oh my god.
Yeah, especially nowadays, that would be a real tough task.
That would be a real hard thing to accomplish.
A fear. Well, tell me some more stuff.
The only that apartment was really weird.
I never saw anything there, but you know how apartments can be with people's energy all around, if you believe in energy. But the other thing that I have that I saw any concrete visuals was so in Indiana from where I'm from, there's an urban legend called Moody Road, which you know, lots of places have these urban legends, but this one was you got to this road where supposedly a man killed some people who did something to his daughter, and he's searching for the other member, you know, as stories go. But you go out there, you park, you flash your lights three times, and then you turn your.
Car off and you wait for this light to appear. So we go out there. It's in the middle of nowhere.
It's just a cornfield in front of you. If you got there in the daytime, it's nothing out there. So we went out there and it was me and just a few friends. We were in our teens, and we flicked our lights three times, and sure enough, out of nowhere, this orb light comes across the field and it just kind of travels back and forth, back and forth, and up and down. It gets a little bit closer the longer you sit there and wait. But nobody knows what it is. It's unexplained if you look it up. There's been researchers that come out to the area and they can't find out or figure out what it is. It's a very strange phenomenon, and it's another kind of unsettling thing because you don't really know what it is. It could be paranormal, it could be natural. Nobody knows. So I've been out there a couple times. They have since taken down the sign and stuff because of people going out there too much and disturbing people that actually.
Live on the road because it's like a gravel road.
So I always want to hear from the people that live in these areas, you know, like this is always It's always a thing with these urban legend kind of places. There's always neighbors that complain or whatever, but like, what is your life like?
Well?
And it's interesting because I went out there three or four times during my youth, and the first time I went out there, there was nobody out there.
The second time went out there, there was a house there.
The third time they had put out a big flood light security light to kind of wash everything out so you couldn't see.
The fourth time they had taken the sign down and.
There were police that would wait on the road so that if people came down they would tell them to leave.
After the police told us to leave.
One year, we never went back because we figured these people do not want people out here.
So yeah, they're like it's our ghost, yes a way, what town is this.
In so it's the closest town is a town called rinse Leer, but it's just out in the middle of no whe where, and it's called Moody Road because the guy that lived on it is supposedly is searching for the murderers of his daughter. He never found the third one, so that's apparently what he's searching for is the legend that I always heard. There's variations upon it, but it's essentially boils down to that.
So well, corn fields alone are terrifying. I did not grow up in corn country. And when I was driving through the country last year and I ended up in Nebraska and my GPS was really not doing I was trying to find a Mexican restaurant and I ended up finding it, but it was it had broccoli, and it was a whole it's a whole other story, but either way, I was trying to find this Mexican restaurant and I ended up in a cornfield, and I was terrified.
They are terrifying. I grew up around them. You never know what's in there.
Makes me think of signs, the movie signs See Little Alien.
Leg Yeah, I've had many people pop out of cornfields thinking it's funny to scare you. It's not funny, it's just scary.
You are not wrong to fear a cornfield. I feel like you're justified.
Thank you. I feel malandated. Well, Rob, you gave us our first ever black eyed children's story on this pod, and you'll go down in history for that. And I'm honored because this was great.
Well, thank you for having me.
Yeah, thank you.
I bring them into existence again.
For me.
Else, don't answer your door exactly.
I just say, do not answer your door to strangers. Always good advice.
There's a ghost in my house.
I'm joined by Katie and Central California. Hi Katie, how are you?
I'm good? Thanks for that. How about you?
I'm doing great.
Yeah.
It's come to my attention that ghosts love you and I'm excited to hear all about it. Where where should we start?
I think I can start with the mission in uh in my town. I'm in a mission town. It's kind of like centralized around around one of those uh those California missions. So so yeah, I can I can just launch right in. I guess yeah, yeah, yeah, so I guess it's because it starts off I was in fourth grade. And we did a field trip here. I hadn't lived here yet, and and we went to not necessarily the mission proper, but there's like a little courtyard and I'm right across from it. There's there's an old house where where people used to live in the eighteen hundreds, and we were in that part of the tour, and near the end of a house there's like this little girl's room, like they had everything set up like someone's living there in the eighteen hundreds. So it's like there's like a little crib and like toys on the floor and stuff, so fun and creepy. And so I'm there and I just like I get super unsettled. And I heard like like this like music box music, and I was like, it's weird that they would put that as like ambiance, Like they're trying to make this creepy. So, like, you know, my mom was a chaperone, and I was kind of telling her like no, I want to leave, like I don't like it here, and she's like okay. So then when when we got out, and she's like, what didn't you like about it? Because like my mom is also really my mom's actually probably more sensitive than I am. She's super like in tune. And so she like, what what was it that that kind of sets you off that you didn't like? And I said, I didn't like the music box music they're playing, and she said there was no music, and so then I like, I asked around, I asked my friends and everything. They're like, no, no music. That was all apparently in my head, and so I kind of wrote it off. I mean, like as much as like, I still was like, Okay, I'm never going back there again, but then I end up going back when I'm about I think it was like somewhere between fifteen and nineteen, I was, I was a teenager and and I I did a show across the so across the courtyard from that in the in the mission itself in the church, and and I was waiting to go on with UH with a girl who was who was also in the show with me, and and she's she goes like, oh man, it's so weird that they're like they changed up the music didn't bay for the show. And I thought, like, I'm trying to listen, and I'm like, oh, maybe the violin's a little off or something. I don't know. And I said, well, well, what do you hear? And she said, like, it's like a music box. Ah yeah, and it was it. So I asked her later, like I tried to figure out how old she was, and she was basically the same age that I was when I heard the music box in uh in the house across the way. I think it was like eleven. It was fourth grade basically, and and so then so then you know, like thoroughly creeped out by that space. And uh So then later on a few years later, I'm working taking tickets for that same show in the box office, and the place that they put the box office it's facing that house. So we're counting my and stuff. It's like it's late, it's like ten pm, and and my friend kind of like taps me on the shoulder. She's like, do you see a face in that window? And so I look and again, like it all lines up. It's all that same room. Basically, I look in the window and I see a lit like yeah, like looking out and like we're we're at this point, like we're like, okay, let's not let's not engage, Like we go back to the money. We look again, that little girl still looking out, and then just it's just finally like gosh, ten minutes after I didn't like something like that, then it's finally gone. But there's no way that there could have been a little girl in that house, Like it's completely locked, all the lights are off, like it's ten pm. We would have seen somebody go in there, Like, there's no way that there was anybody in that house. It's a museum there. So so yeah, that's yeah. So that's the little like saga of the little Girl. I also found out like oh god. And then in the middle of that, I was taking kids on a field trip there and they wanted to go into that house, and so I was like, Okay, fine, we're going to go in. And uh and when I go in, going down the hallway that leads to that room, I started to feel like basically what you feel like when you get a fever, like really shaky and weak and like almost like I was going to throw up, really hot, and I was like I can't do this, like I and yeah, so I had to give give it over to the other teachers, to the other counselors to kind of like, Okay, you guys have to take this. I have to I have to leave this house. And when I go out, then I find out that my friend who was also working with me, it's already out there, and she said I couldn't go in there. I felt like I was going to throw up, and we both felt better after like five minutes of just sitting outside. But yeah, but one of the things is that house was apparently a lot of people died of smallpox in that house. So I found that out or I yeah, I found that out a little bit after the symptoms, and so now I'm kind of like, oh, okay, like message loud and clear. People are sick here. So yeah, do.
People talk about seeing a little girl or the music box? Like have you heard that from other people?
Yeah, I've heard so many things about that house. About the attic apparently, like there's things in the attic that will get like torn up. In the actual room there, they will try to set out toys in a certain like, you know, like the way that the docents want it to be, and they will be scattered around the room like almost like someone has been playing with them and just talking to other people. Like some people like see faces in the windows, and yeah, it's it's a it's not the first time.
Apparently you're like when places, historical places like that do their interior decorating or whatever to try to to try to recreate the old time periods. I wonder how that affects these ghosts, you know, Like I wonder if the ghosts are like, ah, this is not how my room looked, or if they're like into it, or I don't know, I wonder. I'm sure it could affect it in a lot of different ways.
Yeah, that's a great point. Yeah, oh my gosh. Yeah, Like when she was looking out at us, it was like it's also like we've done something a little different. So that's a that's a really interesting because us building the little ticket booth outside of there that was new. When I wonder if she was kind of like looking out like m m, this isn't this isn't the way that things have been for two hundred years.
Right, like this is my front yard, Like get out of here. M my gosh. Uh what is this mission called?
Uh it's a San Juan Batista.
Okay, I'm gonna have to visit there. Sometimes this sounds interesting.
It's it's fun, it's spooky and like, yeah, I've seen like I've seen a. I mean, like I don't know Catholic clergy very well, but like I've seen up in the choir pulpit, I've seen a priest run back and forth and then like, have somebody take me over to the stairs to there to show that nobody could be up there. I have been jogging past there and I have like solid person looking at me kind of like disapprovingly in like black robes. And then like I passed the oh god, yes, like like like again like Catholic to clergy, like like a priest or something. And then like as I passed the the the like column, like I was gonna kind of give him a look like okay, yeah, sorry, what can I do, and like he was gone. It wasn't a real person, so.
Oh god, okay, a running priest A priest should never be running.
Oh no, no, no, he was sitting.
I was.
I was jogging.
Oh I thought you said you saw one running back and forth or something.
Oh the one that was running back and forth. The yeah, there was was kind of like walking back and forth on the These are two different. I don't know, maybe it's the same priest just he changed outfits or something. But there's one that was up I don't know, I uh yeah, but like there's one like in Red that was like walking or running like it looked fast, like it was like I earned like my my head and he was kind of like gone, but like up up the stairs basically, and then like the other one was just like sitting there while I was taking a jog in the courtyard.
Like so yeah, wow, have have any of these ghost hunting shows ever been there?
You know, I've heard that. I mean, like it's kind of I haven't heard anything like or seen anything necessarily on TV, but I heard a rumor that that the uh oh god, now I'm forgetting the name of it, like Zach Begans and his his like yes, that they checked it out on their way to uh to Santa Cruz and like, I guess just decided not to film. But but yeah.
That's all a perfect place for something like that.
Yeah, I know, I'm surprised, and like Virtigo was shot here, like it's a it's a spooky, fun place.
Oh yeah, there's a lot of Alfred Hitchcock, uh you know, central northern California filming location stuff. I love that. Yeah, tell me more, tell me more.
Okay, Well, I the other uh kind of chunk that I have is I my stepdad used to he lived on this like corner. It was like a super old house. There's super old houses here. He lived on a corner and there was like a ring of trees and then like this super duper old house and like we all used to like hang out there, like there was like just a bunch of people who would like kind of come in and out. And so one day I'm going to the bathroom and the door is locked, and uh. And I as I'm going to the bathroom, I hear like or I see and hear this jiggling of the of the the doorknob, and then I hear these two women like kind of like whispering like oh like and something that was kind of like oh, like there's someone in there or something like that. And I was thinking yeah, and like for a second, like I'm thinking like, oh, like people come in and out of here. Maybe it's like my stepdad's friends are here or something. And so like I finish, like I go out of Then the bathroom leads straight to the kitchen and there's nobody in there. The door like the front door. It's like the front door is closed. It's a super loud door, like I would have heard it. I would have heard people walking again. Old house, you hear like floorboards, like there was absolutely nobody there. Yeah, and like in that kitchen, like basically every not every woman, but like a lot of like women who were in there would say that they like hear something or that something happens to them. Not a lot of like male identifying folks like so uh so yeah, Like I like I would have crazy dreams in that house. And then uh at one point when I was in the kitchen, like after like having dreams and like all this crazy like hearing knocks on the window, I was I was like I was awake because I was sitting at the kitchen, but like I hear in my head like do you want to see what she looks like? And like I'm kind of like, oh, this is this is new, Like I've never heard this before. I'm like, yeah, okay, again, all this conversation is happening in my head and then kind of pieced together, I start to see like like a woman her face like and it's like this round face and like blonde hair and she's that like either like these like really big bags in her eyes or like running mascara, or like somebody punched her or something, and she just looked so so so sad, and like I kind of like felt that sadness and then it kind of like became too real. I was like, okay, like it's breakfast time, like I don't want to know, and so then like it's just like she just kind of goes away. But like and that's kind of not like the first time that like I've heard, like it's it's been in like dreams and stuff like I've heard like a lot of like, oh, do you want to like do you want to talk to this person? Do you do you want to see this person? And like a lot of times I'll just kind of be like nah, I'm good, but like uh but yeah.
So well that's stuff that they ask for consent. Usually it's just like here's.
Me, yes, right, I appreciate that a lot. Yeah, So so.
Yeah, I think that that's who was jiggling the door handle.
I think so because a lot of times it would like I talked to my mom and my mom had heard like women talking like that's that's that was a really frequent thing that people would say, is like just like two or three women talking and uh yeah. But then there was also like when eventually when I talked to my stepdad he was like uh or we were like, Kate, is this house haunted. He'd be like, no, it's not haunted, like and so then eventually he kind of goes like, well, yeah, but I took care of it, and we're like, wait, how did you take care of it? Like did you like yeah, like what happened? So did you smudge? Like what happened? And so apparently he when he first moved to that house, like stuff would like fly off the shelves and like stuff would like be hurled at him and stuff and uh and like he would also wake up from like really really bad dreams and stuff. Uh. But like and he just like yelled and he's like, hey, this is my house now, like get out of here. And apparently it completely stopped for him at that point. But so I've got two theories, and one is that who maybe this woman like was freaked out by him and like, you know, I've had some sort of an experience with men in the past or something and just kind of like so then like just wasn't as threatened by female presences or that like that did take care of like one entity and like the other one is just kind of like still chilling. But I don't know.
Yeah, she she's like, God, he's no fun. Yeah, stay away from him. Yeah, And maybe that's why she's like, Okay, I guess what I need to do is ask people from now on do you want to see me? Do you want to rather than She's like, my first approach was just to start throwing shit, and now I've learned I'll get yelled at, so now I'm gonna be nice about it.
That's an excellent point. I had not thought of that.
I love her, Yeah, yeah, yeah, And like some ghosts would be like, oh there's someone in the bathroom, let's kick this door down, and this ghost is like someone's in there, let's wait.
Yeah really get you're right. Consent, consent, very very strong with those.
Girl.
I like her. We also found, or my mom had found, like like some things that kind of like I don't know, metaphysical type stuff, like like there was there were like like black mirrors, which like I've learned later like maybe like scrying mirrors, like maybe maybe she was kind of witchy, but yeah, or maybe something else was and like they just like kind of invited invited some some ghosts to party. But I don't know, but yeah, that's all.
Whoa, well, you have brought the goods. Thank you so much, Katie. This is great. Thank you, Hello, Stephanie and Boston. How are you?
I'm great?
Roth?
How are you so good? What kind of stories you got for me?
So?
I went to college at Mount Holyoke College, which is a liberal arts school in western Massachusetts.
Very old.
It's an all women's college, and it was like the first all women's college, like the first college for women in the United States. It was like built in eighteen thirty seven, and like, the buildings are very old. It has tons of history.
It's got that like old university look with like the brick Gothic buildings and the dorms and the libraries that looks like castles and things.
And according to folklore.
Now I don't know who tallies this, but people say it's the second most haunted college in the United States. I don't know who's counting the ghosts, but apparently number one is Gettysburg College, which I guess.
Makes sense because everything's so haunted out there.
But I don't know Yeah, who's like tally the ghosts and the hauntings and like figuring.
Out that should be the reality show. The reality show. You know, it's like there's all these competitions, the voice, there's you know, these singing competitions, cooking competitions. I want to be on the judging panel where we go to places and we determine who is the most haunted place and then make a ranking exactly.
Yeah, because it was something that was like it's on their website, like they advertise it for folks who are like interested.
Which really, well, that's cool that they're into it.
Yeah, they are.
But the one thing is, as with most colleges, it can be hard to like decipher what's just like urban myth or like legend and what's true like history.
So obviously there's tons of history.
And the college did burn down in the nineteenth century and get rebuilt, so like lots of crazy energy. I don't know if anyone died, I don't remember, but you know, it's just got that vibe.
So my first the thing is if you've been around that long, someone's died.
There no way that Yeah, and there was even a dorm room that they like closed off they called it the ghost Room, and it was like in the top floor of one of the dorms, and people had all these urban legends about it, like oh, a girl kills herself in there, and then a lightning struck a tree and it was cursed the room or something, and now no one can stay in it, and I can't ever get that confirmed. Like I remember looking into it because in college I was really into this stuff and I like wanted like facts to like back it up, and I couldn't find that out. But they did close that dorm off and then they would open it for Halloween for you to go and take pictures if you wanted to.
So that the story is I don't.
Know, right, I mean, like I don't know.
I shouldn't like go back and like go into the archives and do that like horror movie scene where you do all the research. But in terms of what happened to me my freshman year, I was in this dorm called Pearsons, which was, according to legend, helped on the site of an old cemetery.
I think it actually was, but.
I think that they relocated the cemetery, but like everyone was.
Like, what they didn't move the bodies.
Right or something, but you know, so I don't know, but that one was and there was an it was an old building, like nineteenth century like brick building, and there was another like very old little house next to it that they were currently using for.
Like some of the uh it was like some offices like nearby.
That was another really old house right next to it. So this one the first thing happened.
To actually my my friend, but it's sort of similar to what happened to me.
So they're.
She has like the first week of school, so she's like just getting to know her roommate. They're like not like super close yet. They're like I'm packing and they're like getting into their rooms and stuff. And they both take naps at like the same time during the day and like literally the same time they're napping across from each other in the room. And I just talked to my friend last night to get these details correct.
Okay.
So she wakes up like after having an extremely creepy dream in which the main thing she can remember is somebody was walking and holding a baby and like dropped the baby and then the baby died. It's like very scary, and she was like freaked out by that. So she woke up like very suddenly, and at the exact same time, her roommate also woke up, and her roommate's like, oh my god, I just had the weirdest dream that somebody killed a baby and.
It really freaked me out. I don't even have dreams during my nap. And my friend was like, uh, I also had a dream where a.
Baby died, and they like they were like what, So they went through their like details and they weren't the exact same dream, but they were both dreams in which a baby died.
I'm so fascinated by these kinds of stories. I've heard these before where dreams kind of sync up.
I know. Okay, So then.
About a week later they're researching, like we're all researching all the ghost stories.
Around and apparently the old house.
Here's the legend about the old house that's next to Pearson's it was called Saint Clair's Annex, is that.
There was back in.
The nineteenth century, like a couple there, man and a woman in a baby, and the one night, like the guy like goes crazy and kills the baby and then kills his wife and then like kills himself.
Oh my god, and that's.
The legend, and I we tried to figure it out if it was historical, but like it was very weird because their room was literally right next to that building and like looking over it, like they had the closest room to that building, So that was weird.
Well, it could also be one of these things when you have all these stories. I mean, we're recently talking about this idea of an Aggregor on this podcast, where you know it's like after years and years and years of people telling these stories, sometimes people believe that it can kind of like manifest and come it.
Can come true.
Yeah, like it makes the ghost, which I totally believe.
It's wild, like the things that like everyone believing.
Something can make happen, but I don't, so I don't know if it's like true.
But like people used to say, you could hear a.
Baby crying around like that dorm. But then this one was one that happened to me in that dorm where I was just sitting in my dorm room and my roommate was sitting across from me, and we're like stundying on our beds and just.
Like very very clearly and vividly.
In the middle of our room not like outside our room, not above our room down or like outside anything outside the window. No, like in the middle of our room, like by my head. I hear a sigh, I hear someone go and I immediately turned and at the same time my roommate turns. It's like, did you hear that? And I'm like yeah, and she's like that wasn't you. I'm like no, She's like that was like from the middle of the room. I'm like yeah, She's like, uh okay. And I didn't even I did not get along with my roommate, like we didn't talk really. So the fact that she was like what the hell at the exact same time and we were just like, oh my god. And that was just so bizarre because it was like, spatially, there's no way that that sound came from outside of the room. So that's.
Whoa.
And then I had one weird ouiji board story.
Okay, let's hear it.
Okay, so this one is like the start of a horror movie. And I don't know why I was so dumb, but whatever. So we had we used to like be able to like sneak into the academic buildings off hours, and so since they were like these cool like castle buildings. We used to like throw parties in them. So we there's this one in the science building. There's this classroom that we call the Tower Room, and it's like at the very top of like an old Gothic tower. It's like Rapunzel's Tower situation. Yeah, absolutely terrifying. I don't know what is wrong with us. I was like way less scared of this stuff when I was in college than I am now.
I don't know.
But so we thought, oh my god, this would be the perfect place to throw my friend's birthday party. So we all like decide, yeah, we're.
Going to use our academic fronts to go in there after hours and like set up a birthday.
Party for my friend.
And so.
While we're up there, like it's Saturday during the day and we're like going up there.
Like set up, and we go up there and I don't none of us have any classes up here.
We go up there and it's.
There's a fireplace and on the mantle of the fireplace is a Ouiji board just waiting what why, And it's just like propped up on the fireplace and we're just.
Like, I don't know why.
Our first thought wasn't like run screaming and cancel the party. Our first thought was, oh my god, look at this. We're going to do this later tonight. We're in the party.
Yeah, that's perfect, I know, right.
It was like it was waiting for us. So we set up the party. We go back up there at like.
The time, we're having fun, we're drinking, we're having.
A good time. This was also freshman year.
And then we decide to use the Wiji board later on after all this, I like remember doing research online and like finding out all the things we did wrong, like you're not supposed to like be drunk and you're not supposed to like.
Like we did. We broke so many rules.
But you know what.
Whatskes for a good story though?
It does? It does.
So we all gather around the Wiji board and we start asking questions and it starts like responding very clearly right away, and like I had my thing on it, and I know there's that thing where it's like, oh yeah, people, you subconsciously move it, which totally could have been what's happening, but like I also kind of believe that if you're subconsciously moving it, like maybe you're also like talking to someone still like I don't know, because this thing was like flying across the board, like it felt like it was dragging us, and we were getting really freaked out and like just like double checking, Okay, no one's.
Moving it, No one's moving it.
And this thing felt like it was like literally pulling us. So we're asking questions and we're getting some very clear answers.
There's like two ghosts there, man and a woman.
They died in like they gave us the year of like the eighteen sixties, which would add up for a time, and we asked them like, oh, were you students here? Did you work here? Were you passing through? They said they were passing through at then we asked are you happy? And it like went quickly to like no, which freaked out my super chill friend from northern California who likes so much that she immediately got up and was like, all right, I'm out if you're like they're not happy.
I don't want to see what's going to happen.
Next, and just like ran outside and like started taking the smoke or something.
So we're just.
We're like this this nice couple didn't like a bunch of college freshman girls wasted in their home. Yeah, I know.
I mean, like obviously they weren't happy, but whatever. You know, we were like, oh, they're unhappy.
But so we're But then my sister was like, all right, we got to test this and see if it's legit. Like we got to ask questions that no one would know the answer to. So she's asking how many we had like apples in the room for some reason, I don't know why.
So I think we were like snacks or something.
So she was like, how many apples are there in the room, and like nobody counted them beforehand, and it went right to like eight, and we got up and counted and there were eight apples in the room, and so we were like, Okay, that's weird, but also totally possible that like somebody like.
Knew there were eight apples in the room and moved it or something.
So then we had a bunch of mugs and like cups in the room. So she's like, how many cups are there in the room, and it went to like fifteen, and so she's like all right, and so we go around and we count fourteen cups.
She's like, that's weird.
But then she's like, wait a second, and she noticedes a cabinet in the room that none of us had noticed before, and she goes up and opens it and there's one cup in there and none of us knew we're there.
I mean, that's pretty good.
This is pretty good, I know, right, I know, and like none of us and she was like at this point, we all get really freaked out. So we're like all right, goodbye, and then we leave and we're like that's really.
Afterward, Like some of us were kind of freaked out.
I remember like going online and being like, oh, we like didn't like do this, we didn't do a blessing, we didn't do this.
Okay, I hope everything is cool.
But then the next year it's Halloween and we're like drunk again after a Halloween party and we're like, let's go to the tower and do a seance because we're dumb.
So we go back and were going there and we don't there's.
No ouiji board there, but we all like hold our hands around the table and we're like to the two spirits who were here before, like we'd like do our version of a seance like and we're like, come to us now, give us a sign, and I have.
Like, this is pre everyone having iPhones. This is like two thousand and eight.
So I'm using a digital camera and I'm like taking pictures the whole time because like I'm.
Like, you need to catch them, you know, on my camera.
And so we're like, if you are here, appeer by the fireplace, and I take a picture of the fireplace. If you're here, appeer by my friend Susan's head, and I take a picture of my friend Susan, And like we go on and on and then like nothing really happens, but we get kind of a weird feeling.
We're like, this is stupid. We need to go.
But afterward, when I checked the photos, every single photo, there are two orbs exactly where we asked them to appear by the fireplace, two orbs by my friend's head.
Two orbs. And we're like, all right, that is really weird. So that's the last we ever went into the tower room. But I did talk to I.
Did talk to another student who graduated way after me, and I told her this story and she was like, oh, yeah, that roop's like totally locked off, like they don't let anyone up there anymore. And She's like, it's not a classroom anymore. It's not like anything. There's like bolts on the door.
Well, I don't know, like if that has I just.
Want to know why, because I don't know if it has anything to do with spooky stuff or what. But like that was just an interesting way for that story to like have an interesting conclusion. So I'm dying to go back and like to do more research, and like I have a friend who's like really into ghost hunting and he's got like all the equipment and stuff, so like sometime we want to go back and like do a real ghost hunt there.
But you should. I mean, bolts on the door. That's never a good thing.
I know, like that is.
I don't know.
It was a perfectly functioning like classroom back when I went there, and it wasn't that long.
It's probably like in Beetle Jew it's like a couple, like it seems like it would be kind of fun to be a ghost with somebody.
Yeah, I mean yeah, I don't know why they weren't happy, and it was just because we were being done.
We wouldn't leave them alone, So I kind of don't blame them.
Well, they're probably happy now yeah.
Hopefully now the door's locked.
I also never found out who put that Ouiji board up there, why, or any of that.
It was very strange.
Mystery. Well, I hope you get in there and ghost hunt one of these days. You have to let me know what happens.
Yeah, I'll have to let you know, like I need to make that happen.
Thank you so much to Audrey, Rob, Katie and Stephanie. And of course, if you want to be on a listener episode just like this, all you gotta do is email me at ghosted by rosigmail dot com and put in the subject line listener episode and give me some brief bullet points of the kind of stories that you have to tell. To hear a little bit more from this week's episode. Go to Patreon dot com slash rosdres false. Are you subscribed to the show, Please subscribe, Tell your friends about it. Rate it five stars on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get podcasts. If you have a ghost story, you could leave it in a five star review. You could email it to me or put it in the Facebook group called ghost it by Roz dres Fales. I am on Instagram at Roz Hernandez and TikTok Ooh, I've been tiktoking away, honey, and that is It's raz Hernandez. That's about it for me. But I am recording a lot of episodes at the moment, and there's some exciting ones. I've got one coming up pretty soon that has some exciting news about a fun thing that I'm gonna do that's paranormally and I'm gonna be talking to one of our favorite Oh. There's just some good stuff, good stuff coming our way, So I will talk to you soon. I love you all, both living and dead. But if I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't haunt me. Came back.
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