Before BTS or Gangnam Style, there was Lee Ji Yeon, the original K-pop icon. 

Esther talks to Jiyeon Lee, who, at the age of 17, rocketed to pop stardom in Korea, only to give it all up a few years later due to the pressures of the lifestyle: physical exhaustion, anxiety and trolling by "anti-fans". 

Jiyeon left Korea to find greater anonymity and freedom in the United States, only to go to culinary school and open Heirloom Market BBQ, one of the most popular and unique fusion barbecue restaurants in the country, with her husband Cody Taylor. Esther and Jiyeon talk about societal expectations around famous people, being an immigrant in America, and how magic happens again and again during one eventful career.