My guest is Sal Lifrieri, a nationally recognized security, intelligence, and crisis management expert, and president and founder of Protective Countermeasures Inc. (PCC Secure). His book Leading Through Chaos: What Decades in Intelligence, Crisis, and Chaos Taught Me About Leadership draws from a 40-year career spanning homicide investigations, hostage negotiations, intelligence operations, emergency management, and corporate security to examine why some teams adapt under pressure while others collapse. We talk about his career in the NYPD learning about leadership, emergency management before 9/11, and how safe we are in NYC today.