LOOK OUT! It’s only Films To Be Buried With!
Join your host Brett Goldstein as he talks life, death, love and the universe for the FOURTH TIME, in this legendary episode featuring writer, podcaster, actor, sketco and much more CAMILLE UCAN! THE REINCARNATION!
HOUSEKEEPING UP TOP! Occasionaly Brett and Camille refer to each other as 'Connie'. Brett might use 'Ucan' and 'Udon' interchangably. 'Sketco' is sketch comedy. 'Sketco' is also the pseudonym of the child of Camille and husband James McNicholas (aka 'The Beast'). Should the writeup end there? I mean it sets a tone doesn't it... Well if further selling of this classic and hilarious episode is needed, just know that Camille is wonderful as always, and we also hear about all sorts including the post-childbirth world and the many trials and tribulations but also wonder therein, "the crawl", writing a brand new play, George Miller, and some choice encouragement from Brett for Camille to make Mumreels. You shall enjoy! And watch 'Nightbitch' too cos it's fabulous.
Video and extra audio available on Brett's Patreon!
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Look out. It's only films to be buried with the Reincarnation. Hello, and welcome to films to be buried with the Reincarnation. My name is Brick Goldstein. I'm a comedian and actor, a writer, a director at Slinky, and I love films. As Sarah Manguso once said, you can't control the past, only how you tell the story, which is why when John Connor sends back the Terminator, he's like, you know, listen, just but you know, don't kill anyone. Just tell the story a bit differently or something. Every week I invite a special guest over. I tell them they've died. I get them to discuss their life through the films that mean the most of them. But not this week. This week Camille Uchan has died, been resurrected, been through her Judgment day, and now for the fourth time, is back to experience the reincarnation. Hellover to the patren at patreon dot com Ford Berett Goldstein, where you get next to twenty minutes of chat with Camille. She tells a secret, you get all sorts of other stuff. You get the whole episode adfree and does a video. Check it out over at patreon dot com forward slash Brett Goldstein. So, Camille U chan. This is her fourth time back. She's skep co she's an actor, she's a writer. She's one of my favorite people. You love her, That's why I keep having her back. We recorded this on zoom. It was a really good one. You're gonna love this one. It's fucking Camille. You love her? All right? That is it for now. I very much hope you enjoy episode three hundred and forty three of Films to be Buried with Duri Incarnation. Hello, and welcome to Films to be Buried with Luriincarnation. It is me Brett Goldstein, and I am joined today by an actor, a writer, a sketch co wife, a mother, a legend, a four time hero, a playwright, mother of a skep coo, and a someone absolutely cured of her death anxiety. It's never come back. Well, she's a hero, she's a legend, she's one of my old time favorite people. Can't believe she's back, but here she is. Please, she's a birthday girl. Please, she's a mom. Please welcome, she's here. Please welcome to the show. It's the wonderful It's camelearly done.
Yeah, I'm back again. Why that's what lots of people are asking for.
You're the best four times four.
I think it shouldn't be allowed for you to get people back four times, Connie.
It's you, you can say. Let me just say.
Three times is a lot. Okay, three And there's a lot of questions you're sending. I have I have had to dig into the recesses enough for I have not seen enough films. Con I'm pulling out dregs that films that I forgot I even watched. Okay, this pod is going to have to rely on my brilliant personality and our witty banter, because it's not it's not relying on my film choices.
Listen, we're not the film choices. We're can't.
It's not for anyone that hasn't I love you too, for anyone that hasn't listened to the million other podcasts that we call each other, con So that would be very confusing otherwise.
Oh yeah, Also, you're saying there isn't.
Actually that's a noodle.
Basically, just read the read the podcast and if you really want it's kind of doing. So where do we start? I can't remember where we were at last time, But I think what happened was you had just had Sketcho. Now. For those of you literally i'm following this, maybe we're about to have schet Coo. I mean, it's like one hundred episodes ago.
In my head, unless we've done one that I've forgotten. I feel like I was about.
To have him.
Wow.
Okay, so in which a couple of years ago. Congratulations, you've had a Sketcho now. And for those of you also follow in the narrative of this long running storyline, Conn is also the wife of Beast.
Beast is James name for everybody.
James mc nicholas, who is also full time contender Always worth listening to their two podcasts together get a sense of their marriage and their life. Beast and Conn had a baby called Sketcho. One of the happiest babies you've ever seen in your life.
I mean, genuinely, he's a lovely baby.
What's a happy baby? What a lovely, lovely baby? Tell us what it's like to have such a happy.
Baby on the whole brilliant, It's amazing. It's like, Luckily I can't remember what I said on the last podcast. I think I only said it on your Patreon beer that I was pregnant because I think I was kind of But I luckily love it more than I thought I would. I was very nervous.
Probably don't call it.
When I say it, I mean motherhood the whole concept, and it's the baby. Yeah, I love it. I love it, love it. It's fine, look into its eyes every day. I think I love it. No, I love being a mum more than I thought I would. I was very nervous about the prospect of it, scared I would like it, wouldn't be able to cope with it, blah blah blah, And then I actually I do love it. But the word that I think of a lot when I think of it is relentless. No matter what's happening, no matter what's going on, You've got to keep going. And that is fucking relentless.
Yeah, it does need attention at all times. Respect.
Yeah, it's just especially if you have a baby, not when you're like much younger. You're start your class as a you know, over thirty five, you're technically a geriatric mum. And yeah, exactly, you're old and haggard and you're still managine to pop it out.
It's a miracle. Frankly, it is.
I shouldn't be allowed. And you've you've basically lived a lot of your adult life without being responsible for anyone, you know, and especially if you're doing bloody sketch comedy, staying out, doing sketch of an evening, getting up whatever time you want in the morning, writing a sketch, that's what you do. If you're a sketch comedian, that's all you do. Suddenly you have to sort of have like, you know, some structure at times, and your body as well. Your body, you know, you're like a dairy cow getting your tits out whenever this creature it whenever it demands it. And it's incredible but also kind of harrowing. Have you seen Night Bitch?
Have you seen Bitch? I have good though it was excellent.
James hasn't watched it yet. And we went out for dinner on Friday, Valentine's Peek behind the Curtain. We're recording this on Valentine's weekend. Here we go, Here we go, question on all the listener's lips, what did you do for Valentine's Day?
Do tell?
Do tell? Do you want to tell us?
Oh no, I meant you, what did you do?
What did you Okay, you're not answering that comment. Of course you did a gig. We went for dinner. Did I cry at some point?
Yes, talking about Night Bitch.
Maybe Night Bitch was part of it, talking about motherhood, fatherhood, you know, the work, motherhood balance. At one point I said, I really would like you to watch Night Bitch. It's important to me. He was like, I'm very busy, but I will try. No. It was a very good conversation in the end, and in all good conversations, i'll cry at some point. It's just unfortunate that this was as the waitress was bringing over some prawn chilli Prawn's and tofu summer roles.
Pawns on Valentine's Tell me, I'm interested about Night Bitch. I liked it very much, and what I thought was really amazing about it is, Yeah, I'd love to know how it was made, because it really felt like we were like spying on a mother and baby. Like it felt so real, I'm assuming, and most of it was like improvised or just captured moments like I'd read about it, and I thought, oh, this is a film about the Nightmare of motherhood. But actually it was kind of both. It was also about the lovely It was so lovely the two of them together, and I thought it really captured that well.
Also, well, you know it's based on a book.
Yeah, I haven't read the book.
Of course you haven't. I've not read the book either. To be fair, I do. I do that quite a lot. There's a book, you know, the book The Body keeps the Score. Yeah, you get the therapists recommend All therapists are recommending that book. There are so many conversations where someone's telling me about physical aim ailment and I'm like, well, yeah, you know, the Body keeps the Score.
You read that? Come on, what else do you need to know which I need to read it. The Body keeps the Score, I get it.
The Body keeps the Score. You've told us we don't need to buy it.
Thanks, I need to read three hundred pages on that. I'm not an idiot. I get it. Feel the fear and do it anyway. I get it. I have to read this. Get out of the shop.
Yeah, yes, definitely. Though it expertly and incredibly shows how hard it is. But I think by the end of the film it feels like a positive I feel like it's a positive message, and I feel that like it taps into that like feeling of anger. Maybe that I definitely think I feel anger more easily, not towards the baby, but towards like society as a whole, that.
You're that you're having to do this in a certain way.
I think as well. You know in the book, in the book where and the film how she's an artist and she sort of gives has to cheat well for a period of time, gives up that creative part of her life and then ends up feeling, well, she misses it and she's sort of resentful. But she's in this kind of situation, and I feel like everyone acts like, well, but that's what you should be doing, and that's the right thing. And suddenly you've had this baby, so you have to do what's right for this family unit and you have to be put in this role as mother and that's what you're doing now, and you have to not do the other stuff if it gets in the way or if it doesn't pay enough for and that's like, that's horrible, that's really fucking horrible to feel like that, and then to feel guilty for wanting to keep doing it alongside all the practical shit of like you know, childcare, finding the time, managing hormones, blah blah blah. What was I saying? Anger?
Yeah, angry anger, Anger?
I think maybe anger. I don't know about what you think, but for me, anger has always been quite a difficult emotion to tap into, even if there's something that maybe objectively someone would be like, well, yeah, Camille, you should be fucking angry about that. I find that really hard to be angry and to be okay with being angry about something it goes to like guilt or sadness.
Because you don't think you're allowed to. Yeah.
I think I just find it a hard thing to feel. I think I find it easier to maybe just feel guilty or sad. That's what I've been trying to learn to do to process anger so it doesn't become resentment or guilt or sadness or whatever. By a punch bag. Just buy a punch bag. Yeah, do you get that? Do you know what I mean?
I do know what you mean. I think I'm often angry, but I repress it completely. What's interesting with you? There's a thing you hear often which is anger is the doorway to sadness or the shield. You're angry, and that's covering for the fact that you're sad. But in your case it's almost the opposite. You're sad, but that's covering for your angry. You can't access that. But then occasionally when you do access anger and let it out. I mean, there's a real which I also think is dangerous, like pleasure in this sort of righteousness. Fuck. Yeah, it's so unusual to be right, to be clearly on the on the right side, and not everything being nuanced and gray that occasionally when you're so right, I think there's a danger in the sort of buzz of that you know what I mean?
What? And then you think that becomes addictive because it's sort of like a nice on you become more angry.
Yeah, or it's I think this is my maybe way you and I similar, I would feel guilty, like is it unkind Like it feels like sometimes it feels like an indulgence anger because everything's hard and everyone's struggling. It feels almost empathetic sympathetic the word.
I know what you mean? Yes, almost like yeah, I know, I do know what you mean. It's not that you don't have the right to be angry, but you're like, I think it comes down to like whether it's useful, whether it's useful to you, and whether it's going to help you learn something and to know what you're going to do about something, so you're not angry anymore.
I know so many people in this business who are driven by anger. I think driven by spikee as in I'll show you is their motivating force, and they almost need that they It isn't It isn't like I want to make something useful. It's like I want to make something to prove your fucking wrong about me.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, which is interesting. That is interesting, especially if those people make amazing things, because it's like, well, without that, yeah, you must feel like without that would I be able to do what I do.
My experience of people like that is that when they do make an amazing thing and then they're successful, they then try to force an enemy so that they can continue to have that because if the world then says no, you're brilliant, you did it, You're amazing, they're like, oh, I still need to be against someone. They need to be pushing against someone that doesn't believe in me, and it's like, no, everyone believes in you, and you're like, Noah, that you don't.
You fucking Maybe that is why some people just come yeah, become fucking you know, like you see people being rude to hospitality staff for you know, getting road.
Right doing this to prove that way to roll. Yeah, yeah, that's so interesting. Tell me, can I ask you a very personal and we can cut.
It just I just want to say that I'm not I'm not feeling angry all the time. I'm just saying that film really taps into I think that feeling of anger most of the time. I've got a very cheery disposition. I think you'd agree.
I definitely I didn't annoyingly so I didn't realize its absolutely feeling with rage feeving underneath him. What's it like this, I'm not being gross. I'm curious because it's first time you breastfeed. What's it like? Is it very weird feeling? Does it feel like, oh, this is natural? Or does it feel like what the fuck is going on?
The first time? I remember I was in the hospital and they talk about this thing called like the crawl. They say that the baby instinctively knows to crawl up to your boob to get milk, and he did. He kind of started moving towards my nipples and I'm like, how do you how do you know that? And yeah, you sort of don't know what you're doing. It's like weird, they're sort of doing it, but you're not sure if it's getting any milk or not because it takes a few days for your milk to properly come in. But it feels, yeah, it feels. It felt for me anyway, it felt oh well, to give you a very potted, brief, potted history of it with us, Obviously you're going to get loads of new listeners, all the new mums. It felt amazing to start with. I was like, Wow, I'm doing it. I'm doing it. This is incredible, and you hear like those of stories about how hard it can be and like whatever. So the first couple of days like, Okay, we're doing it. This is amazing. But then it did get really hard, and it's like and I'd had an emergency cesarean, so you've got to work out different positions and like try and be comfortable. And then he wasn't latching properly and I couldn't make it work. And it was hurting. Oh my god, the pain. The pain when they start sucking. And I know you're thinking, hey, I sucked. It doesn't seem to hurtful.
Let go.
Let me tell you. When they're trying to suck on them almost every minute of every day, they're getting so sore. And I had to buy And if you're a new mum listening to this and you haven't heard of the silver cups, buy the silver cups, these little silver things that you put on your nipples. And when I wasn't breastfeeding, I had to have them on my nipples because I couldn't have any like bra or top touching my nipple. Had to have the silver cups. So then it gets really painful. They're bleeding all they're getting sore. Then fast forward a bit longer. It's kind of like, you know, what's that thing they say you have to do something for so many times?
Fast forward and.
Yeah, and we've got we've got used to it, we've got a rhythm and it's going great. And then event and then I like, you know, I had I went to breastfeeding groups. I had a lactation person helped me. Had he had a tongue tie thing. And then after a while, practice, practice, practice, and your nipples, I think they just get hardened to it, like they just get used to it, like a guitarist who plays guitar, his fingertips just become like you just you just basically get really hard, hard nipples that don't you know, can handle it. And then I really liked it, and he has just stopped having it in the mornings. He was having it still first thing in the morning, and then literally a couple of weeks ago, I was still trying to get him to have it, even though I was thinking, he doesn't need this anymore, he's not that interested. And I'm sat there with my boobs out, being like, come on, come on, morning, mild morning, milk, mummy's milk, mummy's milk. And he got my pajama top and covered my boobs and went no put back.
Oh wow, yeah sho.
No no put back, and he's told me, thank you very much for your service, but I'm done.
Yeah wow, how do you feel about that?
I was a bit upset because I was like, oh shit, I didn't realize the last time we did it was the last time we were doing it. That was the last time and then he just decided no. But in some ways it's kind of freeing for both of us. But it's also a bit you know, it's emotional because he's gone through that real baby stage. Now yeah, he's not a baby anymore.
Fascinating. What do you mean tongue tie? What does that mean?
That's when like under your tongue in between. Oh, I can't remember what the name of it. It's like a little bit of skin only a kungu connects to the back of it the web. Yeah, and that can be I can't remember what it's called, but something can be going on with that where they need to have it a tiny bit snipped so it's longer and lots of babies end up having to have it.
Yeah, they put them to sleep when they did that. Now they just do it. God awful. It was awful. God. And then what it's just bleeding out and then you.
Yeah, yeah, it doesn't last that long. They just sort of I don't know how, but their bodies they're like aliens. They sort of like heal really quickly.
Wow, what a miracle. Thank you for sharing, Kenny.
Oh you're welcome.
Now you're known throughout the world for your sketch, your sketch comedy. But now you're doing something a little bit different. We're down the street. Someone's writing a serious play. True or ful?
It's true?
What it is?
True? I know, I believe that was probably the last thing you ever thought I would do. She's gone and written a play.
Serious one as well. I've probably got some jokes.
No, it's not serious. It's meant to be a comedy.
Oh forgive me having read it. No, I haven't read it.
No, it's a comedy drama. Come on, I love a comedy drama. It's not out and out comedy. It's a comedy drama. So yeah, there are some there are some sad moments, but yeah, and hopefully everything crossed that people will laugh at a lot of it.
When do we see it? How has it been writing it? Where is it?
It is on in a theater in Reading, my hometown, called Reading Rep in May, and then it goes to a theater in Newbury called the water Mill Theater, which is a very beautiful theater, really really lovely. I've i mentioned the water Mill. People are like, oh it's lovely there, Oh isn't it lovely?
How long you've been writing this play and do you love it?
I do? I think yeah. Whenever Birthday Girls were doing a show for Edinburgh and I wrote a sketch, they were always too long. I would always write on the long side. So really suits beat writing.
A play fucking long sketch.
It's a really long sketch. The punchline. Yeah, it's been years in the making though. The theater, the Reading Rep, commissioned me to do it ages ago, and I think I started writing it in lockdown, and then obviously COVID happened. They pushed all their programming back and the money stuff, and I didn't think I was going to do it, and then suddenly I was doing it again.
Were they fans of the Birthday Girls? What had brought them to you?
They asked me to write something. I think in COVID with Payne's plow Plow Fit Company, do this thing or come to where I'm from, where they get people to write like a short play or whatever about where they're from. And Reading Rep got me to do one in collaboration with them about reading and then when Reading Rep opened, they got me to perform it at their opening night, and then after that they just commissioned me to write a play, which I'm very lucky, to be honest, brand new. I've never written a play before, and I probably wouldn't have if they hadn't commissioned me to do it. Like I wasn't thinking I'm going to write a play, but I'm so glad they asked me to. It's been hard. It's the first thing I properly like written completely by myself, because I normally I normally write, you know, either with Birthday Girls or with Rose from Birthday Girls, or with someone I normally write a script with someone else. I like collaborating, but then it's also been nice. It's been nice just doing it by myself.
Let's deal with the elephant in the room. The Birthday Girls, greatest Skepcho groups of all time? You friend of the podcast BT Edmondson, friend of the podcast Rose Johnson, the Three of the Killers, Killers of Sketcho. You've taken a you haven't stopped, You're still doing the podcast. Both the Girls still exists. However, out the gate. BT Edmondson suddenly appears on the scene Solo Sketch Show Solo Sketcho on Instagram hilarious reels.
She's feeling. She's really she's realing Rose Johnson straight out the game. She's reeling hot hot on Beaty's viral shit, solo stuff, amazing, topical, brilliant.
Yeah, my own husband, Beast, the Beast out there breaking world records with his some monologues.
He's been reeling since before reels were reeling.
He's been reading since nineteen ninety eight. Now, the question is, as a birthday girl fan, I'm sitting there and I'm sure everyone is where's there? Where's gone? When I'm going to be memory?
Why are you so obsessed with me doing reels?
I'm like, where's there? Because I'm a completist. I'm like, there's a birthday girl missing here. I'm scrolling through beauty, I'm laughing, I'm scrolling through roads, I'm laughing. I'm going over to coin. What's happening now? I fucking play? Where's the fucking.
Because that's what I'm fucking doing. I've not got We've we've had the chat about the juggle. I've not got time to be writing a play and then doing a reel on top of it.
I saw, bitch, she put on a fucking exhibition. You're telling me I've got time to do a quick sketko on the reels.
What would you do to get me to do a reel? Like?
How much I do anything? You are I'll tell you what happened, lovely gig, great red.
Oh sorry, no chatting. For get with this, bloody you, get on with this, Get on with this podcast, the people.
The only reason I'm doing this is to get you on the fucking reels. I've lured you in with breastfeeding talk just to fucking sneak around the back.
And while we're here, you got a reel in the back pocket. Yeah, I wouldn't. I don't want to do mum reels, though you can do dad reels.
There's the world is your oyster. You do any kind of real you want. You could do daughter, as long as it's related to the family in some way.
Right, Go on, Canniffer. You have died many times, but now you've been brought back to earth to live a new life. But as who or what it can be someone from the past, or you can design a new life, what.
Will it be? Ship?
I forgot about this bit.
You're being reincarnated. You be reincarnated as.
Completely forgot about this bit. I will be reincarnated as let's say it's okay, we're we're so far in the future. Yeah, So let's say Skecho is lows older, he's living his life. I want to come back as his dog. I get to hang I get to hang out with him, any family that he might have created. We're having a cuddle, and hopefully I'm sleeping at the foot of his bed, just like how we down.
You put him in your bed, Yeah, put him.
In the foot of my bed. Yeah, sleeps there. Yeah, I'll come back. And also, I just think coming back as a dog generally would be quite nice.
That's a lovely idea. Conny, that's so nice. And you always like the future, don't you. You're interested in what will the future be? So you get a chance to do that. I was hanging out.
Yeah, I'm interested. Yeah I won't. Yeah, if I can come back, But the pressure is off as well. If you're not coming back as a human, you're not coming back and being like, oh, you know, I've died and seen this and this is what blah blah blah. If you just come back as a dog, you can just live in this futuristic world and view it and.
Pressure a dog you're expecting because the expectation of a dog is it's just going to be pure love, and you, with your angle, you're gonna have.
To repress left it at home again, and.
Then you've just got to come and be pure love all the time.
Yeah that's true, that's true.
But I love it. I think this is a lovely idea. What's the dog called Constance? Cons Now you are back as a dog called Constance. We want to know what you used to think about films before you win back on this new life as a dog. Hello, thank you. The first question that we want to know is what's your favorite remake?
Now, remember I said this pod is going to have to rely on our brilliant chat and not my choice of film. I'll hit you straight away with Flubber, great.
Shout, and I think probably better than the original.
Well, admit I haven't watched The Absent Minded Professor, So technically can I say that this is my favorite remake when I've not watched the original? Yeah, I don't care. I don't care about the original. I love Flobber. I can't even properly remember it now, watched it so long ago, but as a kid, I just thought it was a great Robin Williams, a beautiful performance, beautiful as in everything he did. And I think, as a kid at that age, like the idea of science being that fun and cool and creating something like crazy like that. When you're a kid, I remember being in to potions and you know, lotions and potions and spells and all that kind of thing. So any film that had that stuff in loved, so I stand by it. Flubber, it's not a Star is Born, It's not loads of others of the remakes I could have picked.
Is that really good? Excellent? Conny, what is the one actor you would watch in anything? Could be? Ship? You don't care You're going to watch that actor? Isn't it?
Not including friends because obviously you've got to watch your mate stuff you've got to talking of. Finally got Apple TV back and I've just watched the first episode of the latest series of Shrinking. You popped up at the end. I know, how'd you feel about it?
Not having a beard?
Yeah, you looked twelve. You look so young, isn't it mad?
Is mad?
It changes your whole personality. You've got to do it though you can't have a beard and shrinking when you had one in just can't be done.
Next thing I do, I'll never go to just.
Oh yeah, a bit like what was his name in EastEnders? I would watch in anything. It's it's Donald Glover.
What a lovely what a lovely answer?
It's Donald Glover. And he has done way more telly than films. I don't know why, but I would genuinely watch him in anything, anything. He's such a physical performer. He's like so I like the way, like even how he moves can be funny. He's so funny, but also he can play really natural, realistic and really funny and then really serious serious in like just a beat beat beat beat beat beat, and he does it so like it seems effortless, but it's like, but the way he moves is also very disppointed and definite. And I don't know, I just think he's a yeah. I just think he's a master of comic performance and interesting performance. If you watch him in something, he always does something, always makes interesting choices.
You're like that con You're a very physical performer. You're one of the most physical performers I know, very funny physically. You do a lot with your body, thank you. Thank you. That's interesting. I guess you're the female Dona Glover. Well, I didn't say that, I did. What the film? What's the films? You changed your mind? Done significantly from the first time you saw it.
This was quite a hard one, and I was thinking, what film did I love when I was younger? That's going to definitely be problematic now, And I was thinking it was First of all, I was thinking, is it miscongeniality? But then I didn't rewatch it, so I can't be sure. But I feel like, yeah, it's not great in terms of like they make out like she's, you know, really ugly and could never take part in this pageant, which is insane because she's like, she's objectively gorgeous. It's kind of set. It's sexist, isn't it. You know, lots of bits of it are. But I couldn't really think. I couldn't. I couldn't handle heart say that. I definitely would think differently about it now if I rewatched it again.
I don't.
I don't know if I so the one, the one that is bringing to mind is American Pie.
Oh, yes, that is the correct answer.
Yeah, it's American Pie. Because I can remember that more. It's more fresh in my memory. And when Skepko is older, if he says to me, I've heard American Pie was this incredible comedy when you were younger? Shall I watch it? Do you love it? I would be like, it's not going to be funny now. I hope, I hope. It's got a lot of issues, and I think the biggest issue is, of course filming the you know, the student, the French French exchange student. There we go, even though it's an accident that it gets streamed to everyone and whatever. When that came out, Revenge Pawn on the Internet didn't even exist, and with the world being as it is now, that just wouldn't be in such a like whimsical comedy. And I wouldn't watch it now and be like, ha ha, this is a great film to watch. The teenager absolutely right, and I wouldn't and I wouldn't want skep Co watching it.
You don't have to be like a couple of things that are very very wrong with this film as we go through it. Don't film a woman without her consent, exactly. Let's start, there's get going and press play exactly.
I'm raising a boy I'm thinking that all the time. Yeah, I mean when he started walking, He's walking over to other little kids giving him hugs, trying to kiss them, and I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah, you've got a word's phibition. You can't just be doing that.
Sweet even at too. Yeah, my god, what's your favorite documentary film? Funny? I have gone with the impostor great movie, think about.
It a lot, and I kept thinking of things and realizing that they were like docuseries rather than a film, and it's not my favorite. But sorry, I welcome back to the impost. But I thought it was have you going to? Have you seen the one about the Jonestown no thing in Guyana? No? So, my grandma always sends little Guyanese videos and stuff to me and my cousins in our family, WhatsApp about all different things about Guyana, trying to educate us. So I was like, I'm going to find I'm going to find my own I'm going to find something, a documentary. So I find this documentary and I didn't really I didn't know much about it when it was a cult, the Jonestown cult. And then it ends in this mass they say mass suicide, but I mean they're sort of kind of forced into it. But I mean it's horrific and it is an amazing documentary and I do recommend it, but it doesn't fall in this category because I think it's two parts. But they have so much footage from there that it's mad that they have all this footage. And it's like when you know, when you think of a documentary and you can actually see real footage from what's happened. It has so much of that, which is really disturbing. So it's hard to be like, oh, it's my favorite documentary because you don't want to be. I didn't enjoy it, but in terms of like the making of a documentary, it's like impressive. But anyway, that's a tangent the Impostor. I think about it a lot. How how yes he had a French accent.
So those of you who have not seen The Impostor, so I believe when the Oscar, it's a family whose son went missing, and then years later a man turns up saying he's the Sun, but he has yeah, he's a different natonality.
He yeah, the Sun was like blonde hair, blue eyed. He's dark hair, brown eyes. He's got a French accent. I think he's like twenty four or something. The sun was Oh, actually it's years later, so he would be older, wouldn't he. Yeah, But anyway, and they believe he looks and sounds completely different. And for ages after that, I thought, how how did he because he was living with them for like five months or something before anyone said anything.
It's because how much they weren't it to be true.
And now having a son, I mean, I don't even want to say it, but if if I thought I didn't have him and then he came back to me, I would want it so badly to be him. But they must have known deep down. They're just sort of going along with it. I mean. And that guy he went to prison for that, didn't he be?
Yeah?
He did, he did, and I think he did that a lot. He was a fraudster basically, and I'm particularly impersonated, pretended to be missing children, and he he should have just been an actor like he's clearly he.
Was clear.
He loves certain people.
He couldn't that's true, and he was. I think there's a film that I don't know where it is, made this year or last year called re Awakening and it's got Jared Harris and Juliet Stephenson, and I watched it. I was setting the screener of it. So I don't know if it's been in cinemas, but it is a story of a couple whose daughter goes missing when she's fourteen, and ten years later or five years later, a girl shows up and the mum thinks it's her and the dad doesn't think it's her. And this is a big spoiler if you want to skip forward this, but at some point quite late in the film, he's arguing with his wife and he's going, it's not her, it's not her. And the wife, who has been so welcoming, says, our daughter died five years ago. I'm sure of it. I'm sure that's why we never found her, because she's dead and we all need this. And basically the girl that has come to be loved, Wow, and they just then try and be a family. They all then sort of deny. Interesting. Anyway, Oh my god, what's your favorite sequel? Con?
It has to be Home Alone, Lost in New York. Okay, are you upset about that scene? Pissed off?
No? I just you know that's fine. Con Come on, it's not Bad Boys too, is it? But it's okay.
It is a very obvious troad answer, but it's from my.
Heart, and I've always wanted that from I.
Think it's so good that if someone said to me, do you want to watch Home Alone at Christmas? That's the one I think of. I don't even think of the other one.
You go straight home Alone too.
I go straight too. Well, obviously we're watching that one.
Wow. Yeah, all right, then that's definitely the right answer for you. What's your favorite film by a director? You don't hang on? Why hang on a second? Why two over one? You prefer the sort of expanse of it.
I love it, Yeah, I love where it is, I love seeing New York. I love Oh my god, his name's escaped me? What's his name? Yes, thank you? I love him in it. Yeah, brilliant. I love the Pigeon Lady. I just love all of it.
Okay, what's the what's your favorite film by a director? You don't?
Usually like an insane question? This question is unhinged. This is so hard and I can't answer it properly.
You're a full timer.
I'm a full timer, and a favorite film by a director you don't usually like like that that it's hard. So I was like, what the fuck? So I thought, okay, okay, what's the film I don't like? And then let me see who directed it. I must have mentioned this on the pod before Sex and the City where they go to Abbi DABBI don't like that sex all. So I look up who directed that? What else did he direct? He's only directed that, and I think he only directs a Sex and the City stuff, So I was like right. So I was like, okay, maybe I can turn this question on its head. I can do a film I don't like by a director I do, which if you're interested in feedback, I think that could be the better question for future pods.
Maybe that'll be the question for when you're back in fifteen Pod five.
Yeah, so on one of these pods, can't remember which one, you pinpointed that my favorite director is George Miller. I didn't even know it myself. I think I happened to mention Babe Happy Feet, mad Max and you were like, oh, you love George Miller. Didn't even know it. So I was like, okay, let me see if there's a George Miller film I don't like going through them, and I'm like, love them all. Haven't seen three thousand years of longing. So I thought, maybe I'll watch that see if I hate it. But unfortunately Tilda Swinton and You Selber set in a stumble love it.
I love it too, So.
I can't answer this question. I don't have an answer.
But I was going to go to a horrible place where you turned on George Miller. I'm glad you didn't, no missing, You've made up for it with your personality and vibes brilliant. What is your favorite film that you get the most sick about loving from people?
What slack you've written? Slack? Slack, it says slack on my.
Oh, stick favorite film? You get the most stick about loving from people? I guess.
So when I'm thinking of who I get stick from, it's just James give me stick about films. Least my loving husband. He gives me stick about Girl's Trip. It's just an easy hit. Isn't it easy for you to be like, oh, you love Girls Trip? It's a bloody brilliant film. It's a great film. But that is the kind of film that I would It would be hard for me to get him to watch with me if we're like and we've had a new we've got a new Year's resolution. We're trying to watch a film a week. We've been doing it.
But what was this week's film? Do you take turns picking it?
What was this week's film? We try and do it mutual, but this week it was Step Brothers. Actually rewatch step Brothers?
This week movie? What have we done?
We've done a nour Maybe I won't go through them all now. Conclave that was great. Anyway, that's just one. I mean, it's not a lot of stick, but that's just one where he's like, of course, oh, Girls Trip, of course you're going to love that film, you know, just being like it's a chick flick. It's so much more than that. It is so much more than that.
Girls Trip is great.
Girl's Trip is great. But yeah, he's just a bit like, oh yeah, a girly film, you love Girls Trip. And then the other film that he's slightly I mean, okay, he doesn't take the piss out of me liking this right, one hundred and twenty seven hours Okay movie, yeah, yeah, did you used to quite like that film? And then I mean, I don't even know why I'm saying this because I don't want to bring it up making a rod for my own back. But years ago, starting out in Skeecho did this like parody short film that was like one hundred and twenty seven hours sort of para, not written by me. I was just starring in it. And it is bad. It is so so bad. I wish I could get it removed from YouTube. But there was a period of time. It is, honestly, it bad. And there was a period of time when James would wind me up and just play it really loudly, and I'd hear the music come on and I'd hear my voice just like from somewhere in the flat. Or he would pin me down and make me watch it, and it would it makes my skin cruel.
What was what was the twist?
Basically, it's my high heel gets caught in a paving stone. I feel sick. But yeah, he used to wind me up with that so much. He's forgotten about it recently, thank god.
Well, thank god, he'll never remember that. What is the single sexiest moment in a film?
You're obsessed with this question. You've basically asked it in four different ways, and.
That's the reason.
And I can't remember if I've already said this before, apologies if I have. But the first thing that comes to mind, and I'm really embarrassed that this is that this is it the spring Breakers swimming pool scene, James Franco and those two girls having sex in the swimming pool.
It's your second James Franco film. I was it.
Oh, yes, of course you're obsessed. Maybe he's the actual I've watched everything. I'm embarrassed. That's the first thing that comes to mind, because I was I'd like to say that I was like a sort of pre pubescent or adolescent watching that, but I think I was like twenty five when that came out. I but I just remember being like, that's sexy sex and swimming pool. I thought that was really sexy. Are you waiting for someone to say you're sexy in the film?
All of you? Yeah? Where haven't you said that? You've seen that film? Now?
I came to see it on the night at the Prince Charles Cinema where it was subtitled, so whenever your sexy bits came up, it was like pants, heavily, breathe, sexily sex God, No, beautiful film, beautiful film. Thanks, loved it.
It'll be out later this year. Thanks.
Oh my god, I forget that it's not out. Yeah?
Are pants sexily all that?
You just get? Wait? Just do you just wait for the panting sexually? You guys gonna love it.
What's the film that means the most to you as a family, be that your wife, your husband, your kids, or you and your parents, or however you interpret family.
Yes, interesting that you've said however you interpret family, because I realized that I even when I was when me and James got married, before I had Sketcho, even though I know that once you're married you are technically family, this question, I would have gone to childhood family Unit and what that film was. And it's not until we've had a baby together that I'm like, oh, now this is my family unit. Oh, this is the one I think of when I think of the film that means the most to me, and I think and this has kind of changed actually very recently, because it was going to be a film that James and his siblings have watched since they were kids every Christmas Eve. It's the Raymond Briggs short film called Father Christmas.
Do you know it? Yes?
Yeah, they watched it every Christmas Eve, and before we had Skecho, I was like, Oh, that's their family tradition. But now that we've got Skecho, I'm like, well, it's my family tradition now too. Actually he's going to grow up doing that, and they watch it as a family. It's very much like a family watching. However, very recently, Sketch has become obsessed with his words Canana, everyone else's words Monna. Obsessed, absolutely obsessed. And I didn't even show it to him. I bought him a magazine that had a picture of Moana in it, and he kept pointing at her and I was like, oh, that's Moana. Coincided with Moana too being on at the cinema, so we me and James took him. It's his first feature film. Actually, that is such a lie. I used to take him to baby cinema all the time, went to watch loads. What was the first film I took him to? I can't remember. I remember taking him to see Past Lives.
Y f great first film.
Which that must have been Early Doors. But this Moana is the first feature film that like, he's picked to go to the cinema. We're going because we're like he's going to like it, and I think that's probably our as our little unit, our family film, because he is fucking obsessed.
Did he love Did he sit still the our time?
Luckily it was just us and one other family that I knew in the cinema. He sat still for about forty minutes. Then he's up and down those stairs, running at the screen, pointing, shouting, MAUI, yeah, it was. It was more of a viscer experience rather than I just sit down and watch the experience he did. I think he prefers my one or one.
Yeah, that's okay. It's not like Home Alone, is it. It's not like the sequels better well exactly.
But he did thoroughly enjoy it, and it is fun going to the cinema with him and you're like, oh, this is like a this is like an It's like a thing that transcends ages. Doesn't matter how old you are, you can all do it.
Yeah, which is nice. Did he get popcorn?
Yeah, but he can't eat it. Don't if you know that real big choking hazard popcorn. Oh shit, popcorn is one of the biggies. Popcorn and marshmallows.
Well, what is the film that it is as good or better than the book.
I think it's going to be Little Women.
Oh, I like that.
Which version Greta Gerwick's version, the latest version? Because I loved the book, I've read it a couple of times when I was younger, But her film I liked it because she changed things up a bit. It felt different. It was like, I felt like it was respectful to the book and it included everything you wanted it to include, but it was an interesting way of doing it for a modern audience. I liked how it went from like adulthood to childhood. I think that's different from the book, like how it was structured, and seeing more of them as adults. Sorceronen and Florence Pierre loved watching them. They're brilliant in it. And yeah, I just thought it was done really, really well. I think because I think when you do an adaptation of something, you know that loads of people are going because they love the book, so you can't. You don't want to fuck people off. You don't want to be like I disregard everything. I mean, having said that, literally, just thought my play is. They wanted it to be inspired by a book called Three Men in a Boat by Jerome, k Jerome, do you know that old book? And it is set on the river Thames, And there are some like set pieces in the play that you would know if you're like a real fan of the book, that they're from the book. But other than that, it's no nothing. So I've just said that and then completely gone against that. But yeah, I just thought it was. It was like an interesting retelling of the story.
Really good answer. What is thanks? Your favorite score composed not songs?
Now I'm sure I've mentioned this on the pod before, so apologies again, but it is The Last Black Man in San Francisco the King.
Excellent answer, Emil Masserri just beautiful, love, love, beautiful.
I still listen to it.
Yeah, I watched the opening to that film quite a lot, just because I think it's such a great vibe. It's very beautiful.
It's a beautiful film and the music. Just like there is loads of films where I can remember the film and what happened. Well, I mean I say that I'm actually really bad at that. I can watch a film then a few months later be like, what the fuck have I watched this? I think I forget them quite quickly. But the ones that I remember, you remember what happened, but I don't often remember the music in them unless it was really sort of like integral to the story or you know, it was like a favorite set piece or something. But with that film, I remember the music in it so vividly, and I think it just marries up with the film like beautifully. It's beautiful music. And sometimes when you're writing, do you listen to music when you're writing?
Yeah?
Sometimes yeah, yeah, And sometimes I want it to be music and sometimes I want it to not have do you have words? Do you listen to music with lyrics?
Rarely? I try not to.
Yeah, yeah, and so sometimes that's one of my options I put on. But it has a very melancholic feel, so I feel like you've got to be careful because of what you're depending on what you're writing, very very kind of So yeah, yeah, it has a melancholic feel, but it's also hopeful and I just think it's beautiful.
Correct. What's your favorite single set piece from a film that isn't a classic?
Now, the classics tricky because it's like who decides what a classic is.
What I'm saying is the film as a whole isn't good, but there's a sequence within a film that isn't great, that is so great?
Oh oh okay, Well you're not gonna let my answer. Basically the set piece where they all ship themselves in Bridesmaids. It's never going to not be.
Funny, it's really great. But that there's a classic. So yes, you haven't answered the question.
I'm never gonna Okay, what about what about? No, it's a classic again. I was going to say, what about the bit in Home Alone Lost in New York.
Yeah, your favorite fit.
Where all the hotel staff come in and he plays the video and he pretends he's his dad in the bathroom. You know, but that's from a classic cic Well, move on then, I'm not going to answers for you.
Thank God you've got You've got such a great personality, Connie, you have been wonderful.
And before you embark your new life as Constance, the dog of your son filled with lap, your son skep cut. When you pick a film that you will show your friends when you begin your new existence dog friends mostly and your son, what film will you show them?
I should pick a doggie film. I'll show them Mowana the first one.
Yeah, God, that's so, and your your sketch is going to be like looking at the dog, like how did you how did you know? How did you know? How did you know?
Who? Wait a second, I'd be like like Grandma Tala came back as a sting ray, your mom came back as a.
Dog, And they're like, yeah, that's such a wonderful story. Connie. I love you more than words can say. Would you like to tell people what to look out for and to listen to and when to expect the first so let's get go real.
Please listen to Birthday Girls House Party, my podcast with my two friends Beauty and Rose. We are Birthday Girls. If you delve back into the archives, you will be able to listen to a pod with friends of pod Brett Coldstein. Did you one or two? I think you've done it twice. Actually you can find that if you live in or have friends and family who live in Reading or Newberry. Please come and see my play Three Hens in a Boat Threat, Three Hens in a Boat. It's three generations of women on a hen party and they all happen to be engaged at the same time. And I am in it. Yeah, so love it. If you came to that. It's reading rep and the water Mill Theater.
Beautiful venue. Yes, and we'll and make sure you follow kind of on Instagram and just keep refreshing like I do every single day, waiting for that.
And wait for that real we can do. We can do a collab.
Okay, oh yeah, yeah yeah, but it is technically so low work that we're looking for you really.
You want a solo reel?
Okay?
I want a solo real before the year is out for I want the birthday.
I don't want to be worrying what happened to the battles? Two of them are out there getting away and one of them.
To play what happened to us?
Okay, Conny, I love you, I love you. I have a wonderful new life as a dog. Thank you for doing this.
Have a wonderful life getting people back on your podcast for four times.
Thank you very much. You're a full time minute hero. Good Bye.
A pleasure, always a pleasure.
Love you, Love you. So that was episode three hundred and forty three. Head over to the Patreon the patreon dot com forward slash pret Golsting for next to twenty minutes of chat, secrets and video with Camille who done go to Apple Podcasts give us a five star rating, but right about the film that means the most of you and white. It's another thing to read now with numbers, etcetera. Thank you so much toil for giving me our time, thanks to scrubious pive and distraction pieces of network. Thanks to Buddy Peace for producing it. Thanks that I helped Meetia in Wilfare's Big Money Plays Network posting it. Thanks to Admission for the graphics and Lisa Laden for the photography. Come join me next week for a two parter with a brilliant comic guest and movie star. Thank you so much for listening. I hope you're all well. That's it for now, but in the meantime, have a lovely week and please be excellent to each other.
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