This week, Fear & Greed partnered with legal tech group Clio at its Innovate Legal 2025 conference. The summit focused on practical innovation in the legal industry, focusing on bold ideas and insights for the rapidly evolving profession. 

As part of the conference, Sean Aylmer spoke to Clio founder Jack Newton, and founder of Scalable Law, Caralee Fontenele, about the importance of data portability, and the need for law firms to work with partners that allow them access to their data and information.

This week, Fear &amp; Greed partnered with legal tech group Clio at its Innovate Legal 2025 conference. The summit focused on practical innovation in the legal industry, focusing on bold ideas and insights for the rapidly evolving profession.&nbsp;
As part of the conference, Sean Aylmer spoke to Clio founder Jack Newton, and founder of Scalable Law, Caralee Fontenele, about the importance of data portability, and the need for law firms to work with partners that allow them access to their data and information.

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Q+A: How tech is changing the legal industry in Australia

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Fear & Greed is proud to share an episode of our sister podcast - How Do They Afford That? - out every Wednesday, wherever you get your podcasts.

This episode puts Canna to the test. What would a financial planner fix first? We all have competing priorities when it comes to money - from paying down the mortgage and building up super, to investing, saving for the future or simply working out where all our money goes each month. So how do you know what deserves your attention first? Join Canna Campbell - a financial planner for 20 years - and Fear & Greed's Michael Thompson as they work through seven very different financial scenarios and reveal the first thing a financial planner would tackle in each one.

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​Canna Campbell is an Authorised Representative and Financial Adviser of Links Licensee Services Pty Ltd AFSL No. 700012 ABN 97 678 975 589.

Fear &amp; Greed is proud to share an episode of our sister podcast - How Do They Afford That? - out every Wednesday, wherever you get your podcasts. This episode puts Canna to the test. What would a financial planner fix first? We all have competing priorities when it comes to money - from paying down the mortgage and building up super, to investing, saving for the future or simply working out where all our money goes each month. So how do you know what deserves your attention first? Join <a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.instagram.com/sugarmammatv/&amp;sa=D&amp;source=calendar&amp;ust=1791378061874601&amp;usg=AOvVaw24CkIO-PWr6BPCowBTRG-E">Canna Campbell</a> - a financial planner for 20 years - and <a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://fearandgreed.com.au/&amp;sa=D&amp;source=calendar&amp;ust=1791378061874601&amp;usg=AOvVaw13TCIeqGMBV02SQhdjNg-W">Fear &amp; Greed</a>'s <a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.instagram.com/michaelthompsonauthor/&amp;sa=D&amp;source=calendar&amp;ust=1791378061874601&amp;usg=AOvVaw2_3nWIFwLgKVBNYIGSuGmN">Michael Thompson</a> as they work through seven very different financial scenarios and reveal the first thing a financial planner would tackle in each one. Canna and Michael's new book is available now! Pick up your copy of <a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.amazon.com.au/Twelve-Months-Financial-Freedom-control/dp/1761473689/ref%3Dsr_1_2?crid%3D26J7ME8BBPIVJ%26dib%3DeyJ2IjoiMSJ9.SbkZtxR23fV5tCZNUbM6UFTqlDSnoQ8waXVXX58A3lu7Yqqw07irP02uGmj72B3O_NgeTrLRo1EBJkdavgZhw6VVl2vqujaPcuyTBFL9T6AwQ55YmQjkUlixlyYh7GCCQsUbh9fjL-HIeusAsdMOzj6mB0TgLuwXoDx5bEexjTfqDg0bE-VU8h0TbK-qgWc-8sT5Jl-7g9AY2JKJHW0H3yK4A_Fg1JfwBhT2iAplUpw.STGvO5Petet9H3_LCUgAPrObMlCWpwGtcVMOZ4s0Uj0%26dib_tag%3Dse%26keywords%3Dtwelve%2Bmonths%2Bto%2Bfinancial%2Bfreedom%26qid%3D1784934635%26s%3Dbooks%26sprefix%3Dtwelve%2Bmonths%2Bto%2Bfinancial%2Bfreedom%252Cstripbooks%252C223%26sr%3D1-2&amp;sa=D&amp;source=calendar&amp;ust=1791378061874601&amp;usg=AOvVaw17GAv85z_q9IxGIqHDIsYH">Twelve Months to Financial Freedom</a> at Big W, bookshops or <a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.amazon.com.au/Twelve-Months-Financial-Freedom-control/dp/1761473689/ref%3Dsr_1_2?crid%3D26J7ME8BBPIVJ%26dib%3DeyJ2IjoiMSJ9.SbkZtxR23fV5tCZNUbM6UFTqlDSnoQ8waXVXX58A3lu7Yqqw07irP02uGmj72B3O_NgeTrLRo1EBJkdavgZhw6VVl2vqujaPcuyTBFL9T6AwQ55YmQjkUlixlyYh7GCCQsUbh9fjL-HIeusAsdMOzj6mB0TgLuwXoDx5bEexjTfqDg0bE-VU8h0TbK-qgWc-8sT5Jl-7g9AY2JKJHW0H3yK4A_Fg1JfwBhT2iAplUpw.STGvO5Petet9H3_LCUgAPrObMlCWpwGtcVMOZ4s0Uj0%26dib_tag%3Dse%26keywords%3Dtwelve%2Bmonths%2Bto%2Bfinancial%2Bfreedom%26qid%3D1784934635%26s%3Dbooks%26sprefix%3Dtwelve%2Bmonths%2Bto%2Bfinancial%2Bfreedom%252Cstripbooks%252C223%26sr%3D1-2&amp;sa=D&amp;source=calendar&amp;ust=1791378061874601&amp;usg=AOvVaw17GAv85z_q9IxGIqHDIsYH">online</a>. --- The information in this podcast is general in nature and does not take into account your personal circumstances, financial needs or objectives. Before acting on any information, you should consider the appropriateness of it and the relevant product having regard to your objectives, financial situation and needs. In particular, you should seek independent financial advice and read the relevant Product Disclosure Statement or other offer document prior to acquiring any financial product. ​Canna Campbell is an Authorised Representative and Financial Adviser of Links Licensee Services Pty Ltd AFSL No. 700012 ABN 97 678 975 589.

What would a financial planner fix first?

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Was it a good week or a bad week for the Australian economy? Michael and Sean go head-to-head over interest rates, inflation and house prices – before tackling sporting debacles, tax reform, card surcharges and the best TV shows of the 21st century.

Adam Lang returns to judge the arguments, with predictably controversial results.

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The Saturday Edition | 3 Oct 2026

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This is the Fear & Greed Afternoon Report - everything you need to know about what happened in the markets, economy and world of business today, in just a few minutes.


ASX rebounds as bond sell-off eases


ANZ dumps KPMG after almost 60 years


Firmus valued at $43.7 billion


ATO credit card ban sparks backlash


Investigators probe FlyDubai cockpit attack

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ATO credit card ban sparks backlash
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Investigators probe FlyDubai cockpit attack
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Afternoon Report | ASX rebounds as bond sell-off eases

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Q+A: How tech is changing the legal industry in Australia

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