The Lincoln Project’s Rick Wilson tells how Minority leader Kevin McCarthy is playing into MTG and Matt Gaetz’s plans. Margaret Sullivan of The Guardian urges the media to serve the public by covering Trump and Biden effectively. David Leonhardt of The New York Times anticipates Mitt Romney's retirement and its potential impact on the GOP's future.

Rick Wilson & Mallory McMorrow
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Joyce Vance & Maria Farmer
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David Pakman & AG Raul Torrez
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