Welcome bit everybody to Fantasy pros. This is the Fantasy Football Podcast and it is out of bounds and it's me, Joey Paige. Joe Pi's Apia with me is my other best friend, the Welsh. Because Bogman is stuck at an airport in Tampa. Oh my goodness. He called me last night said the weather is terrible. He is not gonna make it to today's show. He went for some fun and this is what happens. You go to Florida and you think it's all gonna be fun and games. Next thing you know, Florida starts to take over. And we've learned that lesson. It's a hard lesson here on the show. We've been talking about the Florida Man all before for the last few weeks. Welsh, what are the chances that Bogman never returns to Texas and just becomes a Florida man.

Welcome bit everybody to Fantasy pros. This is the Fantasy Football Podcast and it is out of bounds and it's me, Joey Paige. Joe Pi's Apia with me is my other best friend, the Welsh. Because Bogman is stuck at an airport in Tampa. Oh my goodness. He called me last night said the weather is terrible. He is not gonna make it to today's show. He went for some fun and this is what happens. You go to Florida and you think it's all gonna be fun and games. Next thing you know, Florida starts to take over. And we've learned that lesson. It's a hard lesson here on the show. We've been talking about the Florida Man all before for the last few weeks. Welsh, what are the chances that Bogman never returns to Texas and just becomes a Florida man.

I don't know, but he told me he will never ever be flying to Tampa or Florida again. It will be only a drive. He was supposed to come back yesterday and it brought back like fears we all had when we were in Vegas. There was this like torrential snowstorm around the country that was literally delayed every single person's flight. A couple got canceled, and Bogman was texting me he's out, he has He's being re routed to Cleveland and then hopefully get back to Houston. So I don't know he is. He might. What's that movie with Tom Hanks about the guy that was just stuck in an airport for like eight months and just lives there. That might be Bogman.

I don't know, but he told me he will never ever be flying to Tampa or Florida again. It will be only a drive. He was supposed to come back yesterday and it brought back like fears we all had when we were in Vegas. There was this like torrential snowstorm around the country that was literally delayed every single person's flight. A couple got canceled, and Bogman was texting me he's out, he has He's being re routed to Cleveland and then hopefully get back to Houston. So I don't know he is. He might. What's that movie with Tom Hanks about the guy that was just stuck in an airport for like eight months and just lives there. That might be Bogman.

Uh Forrest Gump. No, uh, the air up there? Is that what it is?

Uh Forrest Gump. No, uh, the air up there? Is that what it is?

I don't remember what it was called, but it's like the real life story about the guy that got just like stuck in just because of like visa stuff in the airport.

I don't remember what it was called, but it's like the real life story about the guy that got just like stuck in just because of like visa stuff in the airport.

In the airport, Yeah, that could be. Well, you know, Scott Bogman does have the beard already growing, so we'll see what it looks like by the time he hopefully comes back next week. But we got a lot of football to get to today and a lot of fun things to talk about, including we have a landing spot for Cooper Cup. We have got some rumors floating around. We've also got some intrigue at the running back position. I can't wait to talk to Welsh about and some big news on the Bengals, not one, but two big signings. But first let's get to Cooper Cup because it's fun. Seahawks have officially signed Cooper Cup to a three year, forty five million dollar contract. Yeah, sure, three years. We'll see how that works out. But let's talk about this Welsh because Cooper Cup, obviously it was over. It was done for him with the Rams. He has had a myriad of injuries over the years. He's at a two year window where he had some of the largest volume we've seen from a wide receiver, and it's clearly taking its toll on him. And I think a lot of people were buying back in last year and now I feel like there's going to be the potential for people to want to buy in again because every time somebody goes to a new team, everybody thinks, well, it's all going to be better. Now he's in a different environment. Maybe WELD give him another shot. I don't know about you. I am still out on Cooper Cup. I know the ADP is probably still going to be pretty low. I understand the thought process is, well, Jsn's the only other real wide receiver there. Why not Cooper Cup, to which I say, have you paid attention to how few games he has played and played effectively in the last basically three years. So, Welsh, what are your thoughts of the Cooper Cup signing and your constitution as it were to reinvest potentially in twenty twenty five?

In the airport, Yeah, that could be. Well, you know, Scott Bogman does have the beard already growing, so we'll see what it looks like by the time he hopefully comes back next week. But we got a lot of football to get to today and a lot of fun things to talk about, including we have a landing spot for Cooper Cup. We have got some rumors floating around. We've also got some intrigue at the running back position. I can't wait to talk to Welsh about and some big news on the Bengals, not one, but two big signings. But first let's get to Cooper Cup because it's fun. Seahawks have officially signed Cooper Cup to a three year, forty five million dollar contract. Yeah, sure, three years. We'll see how that works out. But let's talk about this Welsh because Cooper Cup, obviously it was over. It was done for him with the Rams. He has had a myriad of injuries over the years. He's at a two year window where he had some of the largest volume we've seen from a wide receiver, and it's clearly taking its toll on him. And I think a lot of people were buying back in last year and now I feel like there's going to be the potential for people to want to buy in again because every time somebody goes to a new team, everybody thinks, well, it's all going to be better. Now he's in a different environment. Maybe WELD give him another shot. I don't know about you. I am still out on Cooper Cup. I know the ADP is probably still going to be pretty low. I understand the thought process is, well, Jsn's the only other real wide receiver there. Why not Cooper Cup, to which I say, have you paid attention to how few games he has played and played effectively in the last basically three years. So, Welsh, what are your thoughts of the Cooper Cup signing and your constitution as it were to reinvest potentially in twenty twenty five?

I guess the You know, we were talking last week. One of the things it was like, so what are the Seahawks doing? What are you doing? Trading Geno? Then you're signing Darnold and you trade a DK and now you brought in Cooper Cup. It's been kind of hard to figure out. So I guess it's maybe coming together a tiny bit. But like everybody at Nauseum has said the same thing, and I don't disagree. It's like they're all slot guys. Like you took another like prominent slot wide receiver with JSN, So again, what is the plan are you going to just bring? Is it like Bobo is gonna go? And what like what are you gonna do on the outsides? Are you going to have both of these guys just be the slot kings. I'm not one hundred percent sure. His an effectiveness of separation was on point last year. I mean, that's why you know he wasn't getting targets and his health is in question. I do think this has the potential to be a boost for his fantasy value. I'm just not sure it's going to be Like there was a point last he remember where some people were like, Hey, he's gonna be a big breakout, He's gonna be one of the best values out there. I'm really not sure that that's gonna happen. But I do think there's an opportunity for targets. Darnold good quarterback. I like him there, but like, like, where is he at? Do you know, I'm gonna look real quick.

I guess the You know, we were talking last week. One of the things it was like, so what are the Seahawks doing? What are you doing? Trading Geno? Then you're signing Darnold and you trade a DK and now you brought in Cooper Cup. It's been kind of hard to figure out. So I guess it's maybe coming together a tiny bit. But like everybody at Nauseum has said the same thing, and I don't disagree. It's like they're all slot guys. Like you took another like prominent slot wide receiver with JSN, So again, what is the plan are you going to just bring? Is it like Bobo is gonna go? And what like what are you gonna do on the outsides? Are you going to have both of these guys just be the slot kings. I'm not one hundred percent sure. His an effectiveness of separation was on point last year. I mean, that's why you know he wasn't getting targets and his health is in question. I do think this has the potential to be a boost for his fantasy value. I'm just not sure it's going to be Like there was a point last he remember where some people were like, Hey, he's gonna be a big breakout, He's gonna be one of the best values out there. I'm really not sure that that's gonna happen. But I do think there's an opportunity for targets. Darnold good quarterback. I like him there, but like, like, where is he at? Do you know, I'm gonna look real quick.

At well, while you look at that, I'm I'm I'm chuckling because the air up there is a Kevin Bacon movie where he is scouting the potential basketball players. I want to say in Africa, and that is not it's the terminal. That's the name of the top.

At well, while you look at that, I'm I'm I'm chuckling because the air up there is a Kevin Bacon movie where he is scouting the potential basketball players. I want to say in Africa, and that is not it's the terminal. That's the name of the top.

Is the terminal. Yeah, but I would like to.

Is the terminal. Yeah, but I would like to.

Maybe have a layover in an African nation and perhaps become a basketball scout. I think that would be a really interesting turn for Scott Bogman at this juncture in his career.

Maybe have a layover in an African nation and perhaps become a basketball scout. I think that would be a really interesting turn for Scott Bogman at this juncture in his career.

A five foot eight you know, the flats a little coiner, Yeah yeah, I guess yeah. No, a Bogman look good with the beer. They'd be like Luca, like no, no, no. Cooper Cup, by the way, currently on ECR over on Fantasy Pros, we've got ranks up. You guys can check it out. He's one hundred and fourth overall, forty third at wide receiver. I kind of to tell you, I think like that might be a value as long as he doesn't push inside the top thirty six, Like what would you project at like targets, Like what is the positive or negative to Cooper Cup in Seattle right now? Outside of like figuring out what the hell the same is going to be?

A five foot eight you know, the flats a little coiner, Yeah yeah, I guess yeah. No, a Bogman look good with the beer. They'd be like Luca, like no, no, no. Cooper Cup, by the way, currently on ECR over on Fantasy Pros, we've got ranks up. You guys can check it out. He's one hundred and fourth overall, forty third at wide receiver. I kind of to tell you, I think like that might be a value as long as he doesn't push inside the top thirty six, Like what would you project at like targets, Like what is the positive or negative to Cooper Cup in Seattle right now? Outside of like figuring out what the hell the same is going to be?

You know, I just think the players washed. And it's something that I think we all learned the hard way this year in a very short period of time with the trade deadline, where DeAndre Hopkins went to the Chiefs and did nothing, and Mariy Cooper went to the Bills and did nothing, and Deontay Johnson went everywhere and did nothing, And I think we all just look at each other going, well, maybe sometimes these things just end, and even though they go to situations that appear better for them, maybe on paper. Sometimes not all of them, but sometimes that is a very uh I think dangerous road to go down right now. Jalen mcn ollen's going near him, Jacobe Myers going near Khalioshakir. I'm taking all those guys over him. I'm probably taking Juwan Jennings going after him. Michael Pittman Junior probably after him as well. Keenan Allen hasn't signed yet. I would probably take Keenan Allen over him as well. So Cooper Cup Again, just because a guy gets a fresh start doesn't mean it should be a restart for him on your fantasy invent.

You know, I just think the players washed. And it's something that I think we all learned the hard way this year in a very short period of time with the trade deadline, where DeAndre Hopkins went to the Chiefs and did nothing, and Mariy Cooper went to the Bills and did nothing, and Deontay Johnson went everywhere and did nothing, And I think we all just look at each other going, well, maybe sometimes these things just end, and even though they go to situations that appear better for them, maybe on paper. Sometimes not all of them, but sometimes that is a very uh I think dangerous road to go down right now. Jalen mcn ollen's going near him, Jacobe Myers going near Khalioshakir. I'm taking all those guys over him. I'm probably taking Juwan Jennings going after him. Michael Pittman Junior probably after him as well. Keenan Allen hasn't signed yet. I would probably take Keenan Allen over him as well. So Cooper Cup Again, just because a guy gets a fresh start doesn't mean it should be a restart for him on your fantasy invent.

You know, it would have been great if they had, you know, like a wide receiver like I don't know, like a DK Metcalf who could stretch the field. That's the thing that you're missing though, if he nearly had, if they only could have acquired a wide receiver that can stretch the field. I don't have a problem with two guys that are gonna play like short yardage and try to get yak and stuff. But who's gonna stretch the safeties out on that team right now? Jsen, I don't think he's going to become their deep options. So that is kind of weird.

You know, it would have been great if they had, you know, like a wide receiver like I don't know, like a DK Metcalf who could stretch the field. That's the thing that you're missing though, if he nearly had, if they only could have acquired a wide receiver that can stretch the field. I don't have a problem with two guys that are gonna play like short yardage and try to get yak and stuff. But who's gonna stretch the safeties out on that team right now? Jsen, I don't think he's going to become their deep options. So that is kind of weird.

Well, we'll see what happens. I mean, there's still plenty of time. And there's also that little thing called the NFL Draft. We've got more. Actually, there's a fantasy move that I actually really do like from NFL free agency. We're gonna talk about in a second, Deep Bro saying Matthew Golden the Seattle. Don't you dare put that evil on him, Ricky Bobby. I want Matthew Golden going to a much better situation than that. Let's go to Black Raptors question here. Black Raptor, by the way, I believe the winner of our MLB show draft from last week on Twitch. Here on the channel, make sure you subscribe. We are live here on the twitch again, Twitch dot tv slash Fantasy Pros the first one we did over there. We're gonna do a lot of NFL drafts on the Twitch this year. They have a dynasty question. Not necessarily need a running back, but I got offered Bjon Robinson for my twenty twenty five first round pick and my twenty twenty five third round pick. In the dynasty draft, I'm ninth overall in every round. Do I accept? I say yes? It's a good running back class, but b Jon Robinson is on the precipice of becoming an absolute superstar, and he's already shown you that he can do it. You don't know where these other guys. I mean, it depends on what your draft is, too, Like if a draft is before usually it's after the NFL Draft. But I would be taking Bijon and giving up that extra third round pick in a second, how about you, Welsh?

Well, we'll see what happens. I mean, there's still plenty of time. And there's also that little thing called the NFL Draft. We've got more. Actually, there's a fantasy move that I actually really do like from NFL free agency. We're gonna talk about in a second, Deep Bro saying Matthew Golden the Seattle. Don't you dare put that evil on him, Ricky Bobby. I want Matthew Golden going to a much better situation than that. Let's go to Black Raptors question here. Black Raptor, by the way, I believe the winner of our MLB show draft from last week on Twitch. Here on the channel, make sure you subscribe. We are live here on the twitch again, Twitch dot tv slash Fantasy Pros the first one we did over there. We're gonna do a lot of NFL drafts on the Twitch this year. They have a dynasty question. Not necessarily need a running back, but I got offered Bjon Robinson for my twenty twenty five first round pick and my twenty twenty five third round pick. In the dynasty draft, I'm ninth overall in every round. Do I accept? I say yes? It's a good running back class, but b Jon Robinson is on the precipice of becoming an absolute superstar, and he's already shown you that he can do it. You don't know where these other guys. I mean, it depends on what your draft is, too, Like if a draft is before usually it's after the NFL Draft. But I would be taking Bijon and giving up that extra third round pick in a second, how about you, Welsh?

Yeah, this one's ninety been a question because it's the ninth pick. Let me let me throw a little curveball. Maybe would you do it for the first overall pick and the because I know I would ask I.

Yeah, this one's ninety been a question because it's the ninth pick. Let me let me throw a little curveball. Maybe would you do it for the first overall pick and the because I know I would ask I.

Would because if you Saire's Gendy or b Jon Robinson? Who I want next year in the next two years, it's probably Vijon. And Gendy is smaller too, he's only five to eight. You know, we don't know how it's going to all work out. I'm very cautiously optimistic about it, but I'm taking the proven guy who is still very young, who's in a situation where we know where it is, we know who the quarterback is, we know what it's going to look like, and there's no questions. I don't like a lot of questions now. The Denver Broncos they had questions at tight end, but they answered it with Evan Ingram comes over from the Jaguars two year deal. I love this because Evan Ingram is the perfect fit for a guy with a short a dot in the quarterback there Bo Nicks and to me, I'm looking right now and worry he's listed. He's the tenth tight end on Fantasy pros rankings right now. I think I feel better at taking him than I do about David and Joko at eight, Travis Kelsey at nine. Maybe not, but John U Smith as good as it was last year, I don't know if we're necessarily locked into that being a copy and past situation year over year. Where do you stand with this Evan Ingram Sonning because I actually really like this one, and to me, this is one that could rebirth this fantasy value because last year there's a lot of injuries, a lot of inconsistency. I feel like this is the perfect fit when you're looking for Evan Ingram, who was supposed to just be a guy who could even end up being the second biggest target Getterer in this offense.

Would because if you Saire's Gendy or b Jon Robinson? Who I want next year in the next two years, it's probably Vijon. And Gendy is smaller too, he's only five to eight. You know, we don't know how it's going to all work out. I'm very cautiously optimistic about it, but I'm taking the proven guy who is still very young, who's in a situation where we know where it is, we know who the quarterback is, we know what it's going to look like, and there's no questions. I don't like a lot of questions now. The Denver Broncos they had questions at tight end, but they answered it with Evan Ingram comes over from the Jaguars two year deal. I love this because Evan Ingram is the perfect fit for a guy with a short a dot in the quarterback there Bo Nicks and to me, I'm looking right now and worry he's listed. He's the tenth tight end on Fantasy pros rankings right now. I think I feel better at taking him than I do about David and Joko at eight, Travis Kelsey at nine. Maybe not, but John U Smith as good as it was last year, I don't know if we're necessarily locked into that being a copy and past situation year over year. Where do you stand with this Evan Ingram Sonning because I actually really like this one, and to me, this is one that could rebirth this fantasy value because last year there's a lot of injuries, a lot of inconsistency. I feel like this is the perfect fit when you're looking for Evan Ingram, who was supposed to just be a guy who could even end up being the second biggest target Getterer in this offense.

Yeah, by the way, a big plus for people coming in and hanging out. We got the King of Bros, Debro in the chat and hanging out with us, and Debro had put in here Ingram would be a top five tight end and I think that's on the table here. I think maybe the only question is about that offense and how they separate targets. You know, that was one of the problems sometimes you would have is like obviously Cortinland Sutton would get like a decent amount of those targets, but then it would just be like seven other wide receivers, the balls flying everywhere. There wasn't a concentrated focus on targets. Maybe Ingram will provide that and they'll start to hone it in a little bit because I didn't want The only thing I never loved was how bo Nicks are, how they ran that offense, being like a chief's light, you know, where every single weekend it's eight different players getting a target. But Evan Ingram is built for a massive amount of targets. There's some touchdown equity in there. Bo Nicks being able to move around the pocket. This is like an awesome on paper fit and I think there's a lot of upside. I guess we just need to see how the offense is going to readjust and make him a focal point in the offense because I'm not really sure how much bo Nix is going to have that be a a big spot in as far as his targets go outside of Courtland Sutton. But I'm hopeful and I kind of agree. I think this could lead to him being a top five tight end this year.

Yeah, by the way, a big plus for people coming in and hanging out. We got the King of Bros, Debro in the chat and hanging out with us, and Debro had put in here Ingram would be a top five tight end and I think that's on the table here. I think maybe the only question is about that offense and how they separate targets. You know, that was one of the problems sometimes you would have is like obviously Cortinland Sutton would get like a decent amount of those targets, but then it would just be like seven other wide receivers, the balls flying everywhere. There wasn't a concentrated focus on targets. Maybe Ingram will provide that and they'll start to hone it in a little bit because I didn't want The only thing I never loved was how bo Nicks are, how they ran that offense, being like a chief's light, you know, where every single weekend it's eight different players getting a target. But Evan Ingram is built for a massive amount of targets. There's some touchdown equity in there. Bo Nicks being able to move around the pocket. This is like an awesome on paper fit and I think there's a lot of upside. I guess we just need to see how the offense is going to readjust and make him a focal point in the offense because I'm not really sure how much bo Nix is going to have that be a a big spot in as far as his targets go outside of Courtland Sutton. But I'm hopeful and I kind of agree. I think this could lead to him being a top five tight end this year.

Here's a question from Prime here, what about Mims and the offense after great finish to the season? Sleeper in twenty twenty five. Again, I just worry about the target volume. I just think Ingram comes out all over. I think that Mims will get a couple of shots here and there, like he's maybe a flexworthy guy in certain situations, but I don't feel good about how more a weekly basis in terms of the target share that he's getting in the offense.

Here's a question from Prime here, what about Mims and the offense after great finish to the season? Sleeper in twenty twenty five. Again, I just worry about the target volume. I just think Ingram comes out all over. I think that Mims will get a couple of shots here and there, like he's maybe a flexworthy guy in certain situations, but I don't feel good about how more a weekly basis in terms of the target share that he's getting in the offense.

Ingram would actually make this worse. He'd actually make this situation worse because, like Deebro said in here, it's another thing, it's what the packers do. What's so I screamed about it last year all year on these shows. Joe was they just scheme out. It's like you would put what was it Wis and Watson together and then you put read and I'm forgetting the like they would always do those stupid little scheme wide receivers and never have constant guys. It's gonna make it worse if they end up doing that, if with the Broncos continue to do that four guy like Mims, because you not only now have Sutton who's going to get a regular set of targets. It's not going to be Ingram. So no, I don't think it's good for Mems at all unless they committed to him getting out of these stupid, like you know, scheme rotations.

Ingram would actually make this worse. He'd actually make this situation worse because, like Deebro said in here, it's another thing, it's what the packers do. What's so I screamed about it last year all year on these shows. Joe was they just scheme out. It's like you would put what was it Wis and Watson together and then you put read and I'm forgetting the like they would always do those stupid little scheme wide receivers and never have constant guys. It's gonna make it worse if they end up doing that, if with the Broncos continue to do that four guy like Mims, because you not only now have Sutton who's going to get a regular set of targets. It's not going to be Ingram. So no, I don't think it's good for Mems at all unless they committed to him getting out of these stupid, like you know, scheme rotations.

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All right, so while we were away last week, some rbs started resigning and acquiring and all this stuff. So Kareem Hunt goes back to the Chiefs. Which it's funny because I remember having a conversation about Isaiah Pachecko. I don't know what it's on this show or another show we were talking about. I know I was a guest of the CBS podcast and we were talking about Pachecko. Somebody was asking that question. I was like, I would rather take the Picks over Pacheco going into next year. And that was before Kareem Hunt signed. Then you had Jordan Mason, who played terrific in circumstances for the forty nine ers last year. When called upon he goes to the Vikings. The only thing ahead of him is Aaron Jones, who was an older running back. And then Rico Dowdle, formerly of the Cowboys, goes on one year deal to the Panthers, which I don't think is the you know, necessarily what everybody had on their bingo cards. So all these three running backs who landed in these three spaces, who's the most tempting to you to invest it in twenty twenty five because Cuba was very good last year, Aaron Jones was very good last year, and a Kareem Hunt kind of had to step in and be the guy while Pachecko was out. So it's not like these three names couldn't be useful this season.

All right, so while we were away last week, some rbs started resigning and acquiring and all this stuff. So Kareem Hunt goes back to the Chiefs. Which it's funny because I remember having a conversation about Isaiah Pachecko. I don't know what it's on this show or another show we were talking about. I know I was a guest of the CBS podcast and we were talking about Pachecko. Somebody was asking that question. I was like, I would rather take the Picks over Pacheco going into next year. And that was before Kareem Hunt signed. Then you had Jordan Mason, who played terrific in circumstances for the forty nine ers last year. When called upon he goes to the Vikings. The only thing ahead of him is Aaron Jones, who was an older running back. And then Rico Dowdle, formerly of the Cowboys, goes on one year deal to the Panthers, which I don't think is the you know, necessarily what everybody had on their bingo cards. So all these three running backs who landed in these three spaces, who's the most tempting to you to invest it in twenty twenty five because Cuba was very good last year, Aaron Jones was very good last year, and a Kareem Hunt kind of had to step in and be the guy while Pachecko was out. So it's not like these three names couldn't be useful this season.

Man, I think this might be just a toss up because I think Kareem Hunt resigning seems like absolutely detrimental to Isaiah Pacheco. One of the things that could come out of this though, and pretty clearly, is like Pachecko's injury are coming back from injury last season could have just stunted him from volume because he just disappeared, he went the wrong way. It was like he came back, he got carries, and then he just started tailing down, and I didn't know what the hell was going on with this. So like in theory, Kareem Hunts looks like it could be the best, but I think it just might be an other piece of insurance as Pacheco gets healthier. So I wouldn't be surprised if Pacheco's caries go back up. I want to say Jordan Mason is the most interesting. They gave him a two year contract. The only problem is, like Aaron Jones is not gonna unseat it, just you know, maybe he goes from whatever, you know, sixteen fifteen sixteen touches a game down a tiny bit. I'm just not sure Jordan Mason's ever gonna be able to get massive volume. But you are putting a rookie quarterback in there, maybe you want to establish a little bit more on the run. Both of these guys can catch out of the backfield. I'm not in on Rico. This is Cuba's backfield. Cuba's gonna roll here. So I guess if I had to rank them, it would probably be Mason Hunt and then Rico. But I really think we got to see how this all plays out. Mason is the one guy I think that could completely take over a backfield.

Man, I think this might be just a toss up because I think Kareem Hunt resigning seems like absolutely detrimental to Isaiah Pacheco. One of the things that could come out of this though, and pretty clearly, is like Pachecko's injury are coming back from injury last season could have just stunted him from volume because he just disappeared, he went the wrong way. It was like he came back, he got carries, and then he just started tailing down, and I didn't know what the hell was going on with this. So like in theory, Kareem Hunts looks like it could be the best, but I think it just might be an other piece of insurance as Pacheco gets healthier. So I wouldn't be surprised if Pacheco's caries go back up. I want to say Jordan Mason is the most interesting. They gave him a two year contract. The only problem is, like Aaron Jones is not gonna unseat it, just you know, maybe he goes from whatever, you know, sixteen fifteen sixteen touches a game down a tiny bit. I'm just not sure Jordan Mason's ever gonna be able to get massive volume. But you are putting a rookie quarterback in there, maybe you want to establish a little bit more on the run. Both of these guys can catch out of the backfield. I'm not in on Rico. This is Cuba's backfield. Cuba's gonna roll here. So I guess if I had to rank them, it would probably be Mason Hunt and then Rico. But I really think we got to see how this all plays out. Mason is the one guy I think that could completely take over a backfield.

Of all of these players, Yeah, I think Mason. There's father man friend of the show here on our discord too, talking about Mason. I could see myself having some shares of Rico and Mason because I know the ADP is going to be less. I'm somebody who goes after wide receiver early so taking shots at RB, you know, you never know what happens here. And you know what Jonathan Brooks in that situation in Carolina too. I mean, it's so unfortunate because he was gonna be the next big thing potentially, and then you know, two ACL tears are the same knee. I'd be surprised if he ever played the NFL. And I know that's just depressing. I don't want to be depressing. It's just not something that happened, like Thomas Davis had two torn acls and came back and played. I think there's not a lot of names out there. There's just not a lot of guys where you have the double tear and it works out for you NFL career, no matter how young or old you are.

Of all of these players, Yeah, I think Mason. There's father man friend of the show here on our discord too, talking about Mason. I could see myself having some shares of Rico and Mason because I know the ADP is going to be less. I'm somebody who goes after wide receiver early so taking shots at RB, you know, you never know what happens here. And you know what Jonathan Brooks in that situation in Carolina too. I mean, it's so unfortunate because he was gonna be the next big thing potentially, and then you know, two ACL tears are the same knee. I'd be surprised if he ever played the NFL. And I know that's just depressing. I don't want to be depressing. It's just not something that happened, like Thomas Davis had two torn acls and came back and played. I think there's not a lot of names out there. There's just not a lot of guys where you have the double tear and it works out for you NFL career, no matter how young or old you are.

Way he was going last year, do you remember how high he was going in drafts?

Way he was going last year, do you remember how high he was going in drafts?

Like he was Jonathan Brooks.

Like he was Jonathan Brooks.

Oh, Jonathan Brooks.

Oh, Jonathan Brooks.

And you recall the conversations I know Derek Brown does of me yelling at people and talking about well, you know, look, maybe week ten is when you get him at the most, like that's the best case in AROWL and everyone thought I was crazy. I was like week ten, maybe week eleven twelve, that might be your best case scenario when people were putting way too much in him.

And you recall the conversations I know Derek Brown does of me yelling at people and talking about well, you know, look, maybe week ten is when you get him at the most, like that's the best case in AROWL and everyone thought I was crazy. I was like week ten, maybe week eleven twelve, that might be your best case scenario when people were putting way too much in him.

And I think ahead of Cuba, he was going ahead. Oh yeah, But I mean it just mean hindsight here.

And I think ahead of Cuba, he was going ahead. Oh yeah, But I mean it just mean hindsight here.

But you know it deeper brings up the point about Checko on being fully healthy. Well, but Checko doesn't have a great track record of being healthy. The style in which he plays, in the frame that he has that hasn't been great, and it is something I think we all have to kind of, you know, wrap our minds around a little bit too. By the way, I was just thinking this, you know, do you think that Bogman didn't come today because he was worried because you were talking about Mason's and it reminded me of Mason Rudolph did come back to the Pittsburgh Steelers. Do you think he just wanted to avoid the show, just not to talk about that or any other potential Steeler quarterback signing. You think he was like, per No, I'll go to Tampa and get stuck in the airport and then I won't to have to talk about the Steelers quarterback situation.

But you know it deeper brings up the point about Checko on being fully healthy. Well, but Checko doesn't have a great track record of being healthy. The style in which he plays, in the frame that he has that hasn't been great, and it is something I think we all have to kind of, you know, wrap our minds around a little bit too. By the way, I was just thinking this, you know, do you think that Bogman didn't come today because he was worried because you were talking about Mason's and it reminded me of Mason Rudolph did come back to the Pittsburgh Steelers. Do you think he just wanted to avoid the show, just not to talk about that or any other potential Steeler quarterback signing. You think he was like, per No, I'll go to Tampa and get stuck in the airport and then I won't to have to talk about the Steelers quarterback situation.

If you were on the if if anyone was like watching live on the show or rewatched it over on Twitch, you would have seen. It was just like news news news news. Signing signings were just happening left and right live on this show. You hundred percent No, he was terrified that Aaron Rodgers is gonna sign it yet, but at this point, you know, I mean, just to talk about it for a second, it seems from all the news that's out there that it's Minnesota or bust. Like I don't know if you saw that rumor that it was like if Minnesota doesn't come to terms, oh he might just rebuke the others.

If you were on the if if anyone was like watching live on the show or rewatched it over on Twitch, you would have seen. It was just like news news news news. Signing signings were just happening left and right live on this show. You hundred percent No, he was terrified that Aaron Rodgers is gonna sign it yet, but at this point, you know, I mean, just to talk about it for a second, it seems from all the news that's out there that it's Minnesota or bust. Like I don't know if you saw that rumor that it was like if Minnesota doesn't come to terms, oh he might just rebuke the others.

And it was literally the Brett Farv.

And it was literally the Brett Farv.

Farr said he should sign there. Farv was like on some show and was like he should sign with Minnesota.

Farr said he should sign there. Farv was like on some show and was like he should sign with Minnesota.

Like okay, yeah, okay, yeah. Well, I don't know if I'm taking any advice from Brett Farr about anything. I don't know if that's the best idea, just saying. Also in the rumor mill, speaking of Aaron Rodgers, as you mentioned, the Vikings are seriously discussing that possibility. Jameis Winston is gonna meet with the Giants on Tuesday. We'll see how that goes, and the Eagles are open to trade talks involving Dallas Goddard. Now, I thought that one was a little curious here. I didn't quite get that. But the Eagles are in a situation where they're gonna have I think twenty draft picks in the next two drafts because of all the guys that have gone away the agency and all the things they've done. And I don't know Howie Roseman is pretty dangerous with those draft picks. I think that's pretty terrifying for the rest of the league to give him that much draft capital work with. However, I was surprised that Goddard was potentially on that block any landing spots in your mind that a team that could benefit could use some tight end help potentially in twenty twenty five.

Like okay, yeah, okay, yeah. Well, I don't know if I'm taking any advice from Brett Farr about anything. I don't know if that's the best idea, just saying. Also in the rumor mill, speaking of Aaron Rodgers, as you mentioned, the Vikings are seriously discussing that possibility. Jameis Winston is gonna meet with the Giants on Tuesday. We'll see how that goes, and the Eagles are open to trade talks involving Dallas Goddard. Now, I thought that one was a little curious here. I didn't quite get that. But the Eagles are in a situation where they're gonna have I think twenty draft picks in the next two drafts because of all the guys that have gone away the agency and all the things they've done. And I don't know Howie Roseman is pretty dangerous with those draft picks. I think that's pretty terrifying for the rest of the league to give him that much draft capital work with. However, I was surprised that Goddard was potentially on that block any landing spots in your mind that a team that could benefit could use some tight end help potentially in twenty twenty five.

Oh, that's interesting.

Oh, that's interesting.

Yeah. You know.

Yeah. You know.

The one thing I was going to say real quick before that is that I think the Eagles are taking a little bit of that forty nine ers approach as well. I mean, the Niners are a test case. Look at what they're doing. They're just they're just depleting, depleting a They're just selling everybody. It feels like they're selling for nothing. They just sold away Jordan Mason. They're half of their defense has gone because you've got to get your young draft picks. You've got to build them up so they can have replacements when these bigger guys are needing contracts, and so you can avoid paying these big contracts. So I think that might be part of like a need scenario, knowing that you know, maybe they're going to bring in a young guy, they're not gonna they don't want to pay him, and they want to like clean up books a little bit. Actually, like Deebro's down there Indianapolis. I think Indianapolis would be a really good spot for him. I would imagine Goddard is gonna want to because I think you could play out like there's you know, half a dozen kind of non winning teams out there that you could go to. Indianapolis is kind of on the precipice.

The one thing I was going to say real quick before that is that I think the Eagles are taking a little bit of that forty nine ers approach as well. I mean, the Niners are a test case. Look at what they're doing. They're just they're just depleting, depleting a They're just selling everybody. It feels like they're selling for nothing. They just sold away Jordan Mason. They're half of their defense has gone because you've got to get your young draft picks. You've got to build them up so they can have replacements when these bigger guys are needing contracts, and so you can avoid paying these big contracts. So I think that might be part of like a need scenario, knowing that you know, maybe they're going to bring in a young guy, they're not gonna they don't want to pay him, and they want to like clean up books a little bit. Actually, like Deebro's down there Indianapolis. I think Indianapolis would be a really good spot for him. I would imagine Goddard is gonna want to because I think you could play out like there's you know, half a dozen kind of non winning teams out there that you could go to. Indianapolis is kind of on the precipice.

I think Jacksonville too, now there's a void at the tight end. Phasis I sure, I think Jacksonville will be an interesting one too, for somebody to come in Duvall and remake this team a little bit. You know, we all know what's going on there, all right, Fringe you So those are the rumors. Let's put onto non rumors the facts the Bengals made some big news. They spent some money Jamar Chase four years, one hundred and sixty one million dollar contract extension. He is the highest paid non quarterback in NFL history. Good on him. I mean that dude absolutely balled out last year. And my god, if there isn't a good reason to look at that and say this is what happens when guys are playing for contracts, I don't know what is. I mean, it was spectacular, but the surprise is that they got the t Higgins deal done two four years, one hundred and fifteen. The Bengals are still hoping assigned Trey Hendrickson. I think they will. I think they're gonna continue to figure this out. I don't know what else is going to be on that defense. But we are right back to where we were last year going in, which is we have Jamar Chase, T Higgins and we have Joe Burrow. I think this is going to be a really interesting scenario here because I expect the Chiefs to take a step back. I think that division is going to be much improved again year over a year and far more competitive. I don't think it's this cake walk to a bye week for the Chiefs into two home playoff games next year. I just don't see that happening. Everybody's a year older. And I also think that you're looking at potentially here that the window for the Ravens, the Bills, and perhaps the Bengals could not get better in terms of like, look, we've got our arsenal of weapons, it's time to really make that push. So what do you think about these two signings here and the upside for maybe even a Joe Burrow MVP with all these weapons, if they say healthy, yeah.

I think Jacksonville too, now there's a void at the tight end. Phasis I sure, I think Jacksonville will be an interesting one too, for somebody to come in Duvall and remake this team a little bit. You know, we all know what's going on there, all right, Fringe you So those are the rumors. Let's put onto non rumors the facts the Bengals made some big news. They spent some money Jamar Chase four years, one hundred and sixty one million dollar contract extension. He is the highest paid non quarterback in NFL history. Good on him. I mean that dude absolutely balled out last year. And my god, if there isn't a good reason to look at that and say this is what happens when guys are playing for contracts, I don't know what is. I mean, it was spectacular, but the surprise is that they got the t Higgins deal done two four years, one hundred and fifteen. The Bengals are still hoping assigned Trey Hendrickson. I think they will. I think they're gonna continue to figure this out. I don't know what else is going to be on that defense. But we are right back to where we were last year going in, which is we have Jamar Chase, T Higgins and we have Joe Burrow. I think this is going to be a really interesting scenario here because I expect the Chiefs to take a step back. I think that division is going to be much improved again year over a year and far more competitive. I don't think it's this cake walk to a bye week for the Chiefs into two home playoff games next year. I just don't see that happening. Everybody's a year older. And I also think that you're looking at potentially here that the window for the Ravens, the Bills, and perhaps the Bengals could not get better in terms of like, look, we've got our arsenal of weapons, it's time to really make that push. So what do you think about these two signings here and the upside for maybe even a Joe Burrow MVP with all these weapons, if they say healthy, yeah.

I definitely think that's on the MVP, Like it might be really good. I don't know what you know some of those early lines are going to look like, but that would be a good one to throw. And the division I think you're kind of alluding to is like becoming maybe more obtainable. The Steelers look like they're on kind of a down trend right now. They're trying to pick up the pieces. The Browns are obviously on that. So it's like if it's a two horse race. I actually think like re signing getting Chase done with Higgins was the key, Like not that you wouldn't obviously want to like resign Jamar Chase, but it would feel maybe like the tiniest bit empty, like, oh great, we got Chase done, but then you got this big hole of what's gonna happen with t Higgins. To get them done at the same time, I think was key because it is a ridiculous one two punch and Joe Burrow needs it. He needs those targets. They want to get that passing game going. So I think it's a good, controllable offense. I think they need to probably put a big heavy focus in the draft on defense. But yeah, I mean I don't know, like you said that, like the Chiefs are kind of even trending down, like the AFC is. It's a little open right now. And yeah, one or two moves away. You know, the Bengals re signed. They got their big core pieces, but you know, they shot everybody and maybe you know, hit on a good draft pick defensively, or maybe make a trade. It seems like second away from being done.

I definitely think that's on the MVP, Like it might be really good. I don't know what you know some of those early lines are going to look like, but that would be a good one to throw. And the division I think you're kind of alluding to is like becoming maybe more obtainable. The Steelers look like they're on kind of a down trend right now. They're trying to pick up the pieces. The Browns are obviously on that. So it's like if it's a two horse race. I actually think like re signing getting Chase done with Higgins was the key, Like not that you wouldn't obviously want to like resign Jamar Chase, but it would feel maybe like the tiniest bit empty, like, oh great, we got Chase done, but then you got this big hole of what's gonna happen with t Higgins. To get them done at the same time, I think was key because it is a ridiculous one two punch and Joe Burrow needs it. He needs those targets. They want to get that passing game going. So I think it's a good, controllable offense. I think they need to probably put a big heavy focus in the draft on defense. But yeah, I mean I don't know, like you said that, like the Chiefs are kind of even trending down, like the AFC is. It's a little open right now. And yeah, one or two moves away. You know, the Bengals re signed. They got their big core pieces, but you know, they shot everybody and maybe you know, hit on a good draft pick defensively, or maybe make a trade. It seems like second away from being done.

I mean, if they can, if they could do what the Eagles did last year and just nail those you know, nail two secondary picks in the first two rounds, you could do that, that would be that'd be swell like, that's exactly what you want to do. Let's think another question here and we'll talk more about the rankings of t Higgins across the board on some other players too. As from Wayne Wright, I have a championship winning dynasty team. One of my league mates mentioned he might trade Derrick Henry for my one twelve pick. What do you think I've got Saquon Bijon, Brian Robinson, Charbonnay, and Tyler Algier. I was thinking of keeping my pick to get a good future RB. It is a good draft for the RBS. That is a tougher one because Henry's probably got one more good year for sure. I think in him maybe a second one. It's a little trickier. Welsh, where do you stand with this one one twelve? You're gonna miss out on Look, it's not an elite quarterback class, right, so for your three quarterbacks are gonna go, you probably get the tight end to go. You'll probably get four wide receivers, so you are probably looking at you know, Jend's never going to make it to you twelve. I don't think Hampton gets there is a the Caleb Johnson's of the world. I feel like, that's kind of weird.

I mean, if they can, if they could do what the Eagles did last year and just nail those you know, nail two secondary picks in the first two rounds, you could do that, that would be that'd be swell like, that's exactly what you want to do. Let's think another question here and we'll talk more about the rankings of t Higgins across the board on some other players too. As from Wayne Wright, I have a championship winning dynasty team. One of my league mates mentioned he might trade Derrick Henry for my one twelve pick. What do you think I've got Saquon Bijon, Brian Robinson, Charbonnay, and Tyler Algier. I was thinking of keeping my pick to get a good future RB. It is a good draft for the RBS. That is a tougher one because Henry's probably got one more good year for sure. I think in him maybe a second one. It's a little trickier. Welsh, where do you stand with this one one twelve? You're gonna miss out on Look, it's not an elite quarterback class, right, so for your three quarterbacks are gonna go, you probably get the tight end to go. You'll probably get four wide receivers, so you are probably looking at you know, Jend's never going to make it to you twelve. I don't think Hampton gets there is a the Caleb Johnson's of the world. I feel like, that's kind of weird.

I'm looking at. We also have rookie ranks if you want to check it out, pretty good almost it's a little over thirty experts as well. On Fantasy Pros. You can go check it out under NFL rankings, you can select rookies and at twelve it's cam Ward, but right above is Caleb Johnson. So Caleb Johnson is ranked as the eleventh overall player. But you know that's going to be kind of tough to hope for here. I mean, I don't know. Maybe if someone reaches for like a Travis Hunter and it drops him, Caleb Johnson's the most likely. But the other one would I think more likely is like a Cam's Skataboo. I think Skataboo is probably the running back that you're looking at. I know Bogman's really.

I'm looking at. We also have rookie ranks if you want to check it out, pretty good almost it's a little over thirty experts as well. On Fantasy Pros. You can go check it out under NFL rankings, you can select rookies and at twelve it's cam Ward, but right above is Caleb Johnson. So Caleb Johnson is ranked as the eleventh overall player. But you know that's going to be kind of tough to hope for here. I mean, I don't know. Maybe if someone reaches for like a Travis Hunter and it drops him, Caleb Johnson's the most likely. But the other one would I think more likely is like a Cam's Skataboo. I think Skataboo is probably the running back that you're looking at. I know Bogman's really.

That I want him Derrick Henry because yeah, camp Scattaboo is fun, but I just don't know if he can do it in the NFL.

That I want him Derrick Henry because yeah, camp Scattaboo is fun, but I just don't know if he can do it in the NFL.

So here's the only other kind of caveat though. Look at those running backs he had, how many can you start? How many can he get in there? Because he had was that one Bijon and then Brian.

So here's the only other kind of caveat though. Look at those running backs he had, how many can you start? How many can he get in there? Because he had was that one Bijon and then Brian.

Robinson Saquon last year. Again, you know, we get to that threshold. I want to double check my numbers here, but you know, we talked about it at nauseum last year about the four hundred and seventeen touches of Christian McCaffrey from the regular season for the playoffs two years ago. Last year three hundred and forty five attempts in the season. For receptions, he had thirty three. So we're pushing there, and by the time we get to playoffs obviously well over four hundred. So we're in that same range with Saquon, and typically going into the next year that does not work out well for guys staying healthy. So if you are kind of in this win now mode a little bit too, like you just won, maybe you go all in one more year, try to win one more time. I don't think that's a bad idea, and you get Derrick Henry. Like Derrick Henry could continue to just blow everybody's mind and just play way longer than anybody could possibly fathom because he's such a freak of nature. I'm just I'm very willing in this class to in my dynasty leagues to move as high up as I possibly can with all the draft capital I can, or as far out of this draft is into next year, because there's a few handful of players I like. But I'm just not overall in love with the depth of this class, like I have a couple of years ago, like I remember drafting Khalil Shakir in like the fourth fifth round of a Dynasty rookie draft a couple of years ago, just you know, always seeing these guys where I was like, Oh, this guy's really interesting, or Pacheco's really interesting. There are all these prospects I really liked. I don't have that same feeling about this draft class. I want to go back to t Higgins for a second, Welsh, because I want to get your feeling right now. In the consensus rankings on fantasypros dot Com, he is the twelfth wide receiver. Feels about right for how much they throw the ball. And if you're a fantasy manager, you want the Bengals defense to suck because you want to be in shootouts and you want all the fantasy points you possib can get, So don't root too hard for that to change. Jsn is at thirteen. Lad McConkie at fourteen, Terry McLaurin at fifteen. Do you think T Higgin should be drafted over those three guys? Oh? Man?

Robinson Saquon last year. Again, you know, we get to that threshold. I want to double check my numbers here, but you know, we talked about it at nauseum last year about the four hundred and seventeen touches of Christian McCaffrey from the regular season for the playoffs two years ago. Last year three hundred and forty five attempts in the season. For receptions, he had thirty three. So we're pushing there, and by the time we get to playoffs obviously well over four hundred. So we're in that same range with Saquon, and typically going into the next year that does not work out well for guys staying healthy. So if you are kind of in this win now mode a little bit too, like you just won, maybe you go all in one more year, try to win one more time. I don't think that's a bad idea, and you get Derrick Henry. Like Derrick Henry could continue to just blow everybody's mind and just play way longer than anybody could possibly fathom because he's such a freak of nature. I'm just I'm very willing in this class to in my dynasty leagues to move as high up as I possibly can with all the draft capital I can, or as far out of this draft is into next year, because there's a few handful of players I like. But I'm just not overall in love with the depth of this class, like I have a couple of years ago, like I remember drafting Khalil Shakir in like the fourth fifth round of a Dynasty rookie draft a couple of years ago, just you know, always seeing these guys where I was like, Oh, this guy's really interesting, or Pacheco's really interesting. There are all these prospects I really liked. I don't have that same feeling about this draft class. I want to go back to t Higgins for a second, Welsh, because I want to get your feeling right now. In the consensus rankings on fantasypros dot Com, he is the twelfth wide receiver. Feels about right for how much they throw the ball. And if you're a fantasy manager, you want the Bengals defense to suck because you want to be in shootouts and you want all the fantasy points you possib can get, So don't root too hard for that to change. Jsn is at thirteen. Lad McConkie at fourteen, Terry McLaurin at fifteen. Do you think T Higgin should be drafted over those three guys? Oh? Man?

You know lad Is Lad is the one that jumped out to me where I'm like, m, it's super super close.

You know lad Is Lad is the one that jumped out to me where I'm like, m, it's super super close.

I not Terry. I mean Terry was pretty good last year, and jayde and Daniels in year two.

I not Terry. I mean Terry was pretty good last year, and jayde and Daniels in year two.

Yeah. No, I mean all of them are good. It was just lads specifically kind of jumped out to me. I think you can you can buy that. I mean, you know, Terry's like he was, I mean, built a mountain of his fantasy value off of those huge, huge plays, and those big like fifty plus yard touchdown plays are similar to like touchdown equity, Like how how much can you count on repeatability? The other two guys, you know, working out of just like big you know, slot targets left and right. I guess what I'm getting to is like T Higgins to me, is like the complete wide receiver. He's not built off of just having to be big, long deep plays. He's not built off of just having to play out of a slot. Even if he's a a wide receiver. Two, he plays as a wide receiver. One also by the way, with Terry like they did, bring Deebo in and we'll have to see what Deebo does with some of that offense. But I think I think the tier makes sense. But I do believe like him being above it is the play.

Yeah. No, I mean all of them are good. It was just lads specifically kind of jumped out to me. I think you can you can buy that. I mean, you know, Terry's like he was, I mean, built a mountain of his fantasy value off of those huge, huge plays, and those big like fifty plus yard touchdown plays are similar to like touchdown equity, Like how how much can you count on repeatability? The other two guys, you know, working out of just like big you know, slot targets left and right. I guess what I'm getting to is like T Higgins to me, is like the complete wide receiver. He's not built off of just having to be big, long deep plays. He's not built off of just having to play out of a slot. Even if he's a a wide receiver. Two, he plays as a wide receiver. One also by the way, with Terry like they did, bring Deebo in and we'll have to see what Deebo does with some of that offense. But I think I think the tier makes sense. But I do believe like him being above it is the play.

I think it's very close. I think over Jackson Smith a jig. When I'm good with over Lad. It depends on format. If it's straight PPR, I'm listening, but it's half. I want the touchdown equity that Higgins is gonna bring. I think, yeah, yeah, I completely agree with that. McLaurin. For me, that's the dice one because I just I love, I'm in love with the quarterbacks.

I think it's very close. I think over Jackson Smith a jig. When I'm good with over Lad. It depends on format. If it's straight PPR, I'm listening, but it's half. I want the touchdown equity that Higgins is gonna bring. I think, yeah, yeah, I completely agree with that. McLaurin. For me, that's the dice one because I just I love, I'm in love with the quarterbacks.

But Deebo doesn't do well. I mean, what about Devo being in there. You know people's gonna pull his James Harden has to go his fat suit. He's gonna try to be Superman now. He's gonna play for his team.

But Deebo doesn't do well. I mean, what about Devo being in there. You know people's gonna pull his James Harden has to go his fat suit. He's gonna try to be Superman now. He's gonna play for his team.

He's gonna be always gonna show up the camp best shape of his lives.

He's gonna be always gonna show up the camp best shape of his lives.

He's gonna look jacked.

He's gonna look jacked.

He might, But I also remember all of the Diami Brown moments and all the other guys that they've used the case, all those other guys that have been around, and also how well they utilized the running backs last year too, and how important at times that you had Austin Eckler being important in that offense too, mcclaurin. For me, again, I probably take over Higgins, but it's very close. I probably go Klaurin Higgins, like really close together. Then probably JSN and Maconkey. But that is a sweet spot too, so for you and Bob who still like to take those running backs early. You know, if you take a Saquan or a Bijeon right and you loose back around to you in the third round, you're probably looking at this group of wide receivers to double up. I think that's actually a nice way to build in twenty twenty five. It might even be my preference to build if I don't get Chaser Jefferson, Like, that's very very intriguing to me. What do you think of that in terms of I know it's early to think about builds, but it kind of makes sense, like if you are going to go early running back man, like this group of wide receivers, and I didn't even mention also in this grouping right after Mike Evans, Garrett Wilson, DeVante Adams, all of which are in pretty good spots as well well.

He might, But I also remember all of the Diami Brown moments and all the other guys that they've used the case, all those other guys that have been around, and also how well they utilized the running backs last year too, and how important at times that you had Austin Eckler being important in that offense too, mcclaurin. For me, again, I probably take over Higgins, but it's very close. I probably go Klaurin Higgins, like really close together. Then probably JSN and Maconkey. But that is a sweet spot too, so for you and Bob who still like to take those running backs early. You know, if you take a Saquan or a Bijeon right and you loose back around to you in the third round, you're probably looking at this group of wide receivers to double up. I think that's actually a nice way to build in twenty twenty five. It might even be my preference to build if I don't get Chaser Jefferson, Like, that's very very intriguing to me. What do you think of that in terms of I know it's early to think about builds, but it kind of makes sense, like if you are going to go early running back man, like this group of wide receivers, and I didn't even mention also in this grouping right after Mike Evans, Garrett Wilson, DeVante Adams, all of which are in pretty good spots as well well.

Looking at half PPR too, there's this big hole though, So looking over on Fantasy Pro's ranks, you've got like Barkley and Bijon at the top, but inside the top twelve after that, I guess you have Jamior Gibbs and then Derek Henry. But there's only four running backs in there, So I guess that bill that you're talking about for me would probably end up having to be like, I get Jamior Gibbs at five or six, and then I come back around and I'm staring at you know again, maybe like an AJ Brown, maybe Malik neighbors Falls a little bit, or Bucky Irving specifically, and then I would jump in into that third round and that's where you start looking at like JSN T. Higgins and stuff like that. I could definitely, I could definitely see it though. There definitely is a hole between like five and twenty of only like just a couple running backs that make a lot of sense, So you know, high pick I'm more likely to look at Bijon and Barkley and then come back around and do what you're talking about. Yeah, it's gonna be fun. To start playing around with some.

Looking at half PPR too, there's this big hole though, So looking over on Fantasy Pro's ranks, you've got like Barkley and Bijon at the top, but inside the top twelve after that, I guess you have Jamior Gibbs and then Derek Henry. But there's only four running backs in there, So I guess that bill that you're talking about for me would probably end up having to be like, I get Jamior Gibbs at five or six, and then I come back around and I'm staring at you know again, maybe like an AJ Brown, maybe Malik neighbors Falls a little bit, or Bucky Irving specifically, and then I would jump in into that third round and that's where you start looking at like JSN T. Higgins and stuff like that. I could definitely, I could definitely see it though. There definitely is a hole between like five and twenty of only like just a couple running backs that make a lot of sense, So you know, high pick I'm more likely to look at Bijon and Barkley and then come back around and do what you're talking about. Yeah, it's gonna be fun. To start playing around with some.

Of these bills. Yeah, I'm still Chase one, Jefferson two. I don't care if it's JJ McCarthy or whoever it ends up like, I'm still yeah what he did last year with Sam Darnold.

Of these bills. Yeah, I'm still Chase one, Jefferson two. I don't care if it's JJ McCarthy or whoever it ends up like, I'm still yeah what he did last year with Sam Darnold.

You know, Jefferson's four on the rank.

You know, Jefferson's four on the rank.

I know it's surb to for you, so exactly, so I'll draft four. That's fine, you want to give you my spot. I'll take four any day. I like Bijon after that then Barkley, and I know that it's going to be unpopular, you know, But I keep going back to the data, and the data keeps telling me it was a glorious, magical, wonderful season for Saquon Barkley, but we crossed that four hundred touch threshold. The next year is bad. The data tells you every single year it's bad. Guys don't come back and play at the same level. And I know at times they tried to, you know, measure him out, and I know they did skip him one game there at the end, and I know I get all that, but it doesn't matter. You know, history dictates otherwise to us. Even Derrick Henry wasn't immune to it. So that to me is something to keep an eye on and watch. But again, one of the great things about this we can continue to have conversations on our discord too, So if you want to interact with us, you're on Twitch you can, but can also do it on our discord where it's also free, Fantasypros dot Com slash chat, and there's lots of fun shows going on worm and fits a five pm Eastern the first Tuesday have every month they are doing AMAS. You can ask them questions about Dynasty or Redraft too if you want, and it fits in Bogs five Eastern every third Tuesday of the month. So spend your two days talking football on our discord. Again, Fantasypros dot Com slash Chat, that's the place to go. And when you're a premium member of Fantasy Pros you get access to a whole lot more. Look how happy I am. Look how I'm pointing right here to the discord. That's what it looks like. Oh, oh here, you know what I'm saying. Oh look at his discord. Oh it's unbelievable, baby, Oh, it's pretty good.

I know it's surb to for you, so exactly, so I'll draft four. That's fine, you want to give you my spot. I'll take four any day. I like Bijon after that then Barkley, and I know that it's going to be unpopular, you know, But I keep going back to the data, and the data keeps telling me it was a glorious, magical, wonderful season for Saquon Barkley, but we crossed that four hundred touch threshold. The next year is bad. The data tells you every single year it's bad. Guys don't come back and play at the same level. And I know at times they tried to, you know, measure him out, and I know they did skip him one game there at the end, and I know I get all that, but it doesn't matter. You know, history dictates otherwise to us. Even Derrick Henry wasn't immune to it. So that to me is something to keep an eye on and watch. But again, one of the great things about this we can continue to have conversations on our discord too, So if you want to interact with us, you're on Twitch you can, but can also do it on our discord where it's also free, Fantasypros dot Com slash chat, and there's lots of fun shows going on worm and fits a five pm Eastern the first Tuesday have every month they are doing AMAS. You can ask them questions about Dynasty or Redraft too if you want, and it fits in Bogs five Eastern every third Tuesday of the month. So spend your two days talking football on our discord. Again, Fantasypros dot Com slash Chat, that's the place to go. And when you're a premium member of Fantasy Pros you get access to a whole lot more. Look how happy I am. Look how I'm pointing right here to the discord. That's what it looks like. Oh, oh here, you know what I'm saying. Oh look at his discord. Oh it's unbelievable, baby, Oh, it's pretty good.

Seeing these shots from the photo shoot pop up in artwork is just phenomenon.

Seeing these shots from the photo shoot pop up in artwork is just phenomenon.

They are a good time, all right. Speaking of ridiculous, Scott Bagman sends us a lot of reels. That's that he's our friend. This is what he does. He's that friend. Every friend group has that one person that sends more reels than everybody else. And you know, sometimes you then start trolling around on things and when you click on one thing, then all of a sudden, it just gets in your algorithm. And I don't know what I was looking at, but you know, it got to a point where and don't get afraid, everybody, this is just fun stuff. This is like something I think it's called epic Wars right where they take like Roman soldiers, you know, a thousand Roman soldiers against twenty Civil War soldiers and things.

They are a good time, all right. Speaking of ridiculous, Scott Bagman sends us a lot of reels. That's that he's our friend. This is what he does. He's that friend. Every friend group has that one person that sends more reels than everybody else. And you know, sometimes you then start trolling around on things and when you click on one thing, then all of a sudden, it just gets in your algorithm. And I don't know what I was looking at, but you know, it got to a point where and don't get afraid, everybody, this is just fun stuff. This is like something I think it's called epic Wars right where they take like Roman soldiers, you know, a thousand Roman soldiers against twenty Civil War soldiers and things.

That's just like the computer generated thing.

That's just like the computer generated thing.

It's the computer generate thing.

It's the computer generate thing.

Have you watched one last night?

Have you watched one last night?

Oh?

Oh?

Oh yeah, it's like it's this game and it'll be like, yeah, it'll be like one hundred hulks versus one million scarlet witches or something like that.

Oh yeah, it's like it's this game and it'll be like, yeah, it'll be like one hundred hulks versus one million scarlet witches or something like that.

Yes, well, this was I watched this one.

Yes, well, this was I watched this one.

This is okay, all right, I watched it.

This is okay, all right, I watched it.

I saw this one, but this one made me laugh because it was one hundred Harry Potters versus a million Kermit the frogs. So I want everybody in the chat, and if you're watching on the YouTube channel too, as you're watching, I want you to make a prediction here, who do you think would win this matchup? Because I was watching it yesterday and I'm thinking to myself, well, Harry Potter's magic, So why can't Harry Potter? You know, it's one hundred of them. That's got to be enough spells. There's got to be enough, you know, Avodica Dowber. It depends on how fast, right.

I saw this one, but this one made me laugh because it was one hundred Harry Potters versus a million Kermit the frogs. So I want everybody in the chat, and if you're watching on the YouTube channel too, as you're watching, I want you to make a prediction here, who do you think would win this matchup? Because I was watching it yesterday and I'm thinking to myself, well, Harry Potter's magic, So why can't Harry Potter? You know, it's one hundred of them. That's got to be enough spells. There's got to be enough, you know, Avodica Dowber. It depends on how fast, right.

But see I didn't like that they were running right here. It's like, no, Harry, don't even run at all. Get space between your curments, right, and then space between Kermit's last key.

But see I didn't like that they were running right here. It's like, no, Harry, don't even run at all. Get space between your curments, right, and then space between Kermit's last key.

Can we get that on a shirt?

Can we get that on a shirt?

You always put space between your kurments. So to see now Potter is just destroying in this angle. It looks like, hey, Harry Potter's doing some work on Kermits. Kermits are coming in. But then when it starts to span out, you remember it's a million cerments that they're blasting about. I don't know, roughly like each Harry Potter looks like he's getting a couple but look at that. Look at it.