Dynasty Trade Targets + Rico Suave Talk - Dynasty Fantasy Football

Published Oct 9, 2024, 9:00 AM

Dynasty trade targets on today’s dynasty fantasy football podcast! Borg, Betz, and Mike discuss dynasty trade targets sorting through who to acquire and who to trade away. They also give a weekly film review of Brock Bowers, Drake London, and Rico Dowdle. Join Borg, Betz, and a Baller each week to take your Dynasty fantasy football game to the next level and dominate your league -- Fantasy Football Podcast for October 9th, 2024.

 

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Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Dynasty Podcast with Borg Bets and a baller.

Welcome back.

It's Wednesday, October ninth. Here on the Fantasy Footballers Dynasty Podcast, I'm your host, Kyle Organoni, and I am joined by Mike Wright and the Biggest Loser Matthew Betts.

You know, whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa.

That tag is reserved trademark for a very special person, Kyle, So that was rude. But yeah, man, well you know, if you look at doc Mike, I logged in today, I was having a pretty good day. Actually. I log in and I see Kyle posts in our show doc. Oh yeah, yeah, the results of our DYNA junior matchup, which I'll let Kyle just you know, I'll let him have his moment here. But going into the week, I was like, Okay, Kyle's in kind of like a soft rebuild. You know, this should be a somewhat somewhat easy win, I think, and you know, I knew it was over when Ray Ray McLoud put up double digit points on Thursday night, I was like, Okay, Kyle might actually win this. But Kyle, why don't you let people know who your starting lineup was, and I knewo my starting lineup was and how things went.

Your team is very good. You got to inherit a very good team. Not saying you earned it, but I will say that you have a good team. I was starting such guys as Ray Ray McCloud. Let's see Jalen Tolbert's usually in the lineup. I didn't start him, but I had Rico Dowdell, you boy, Mike, Oh yeah yeah, Trey Sermon, Kareem Hunt. It was Kareem Hunt Versusmara on Monday night, and the better one really showed out.

Yep, sure did. So that was fun.

Yeah.

What's funny, Kyle is like you should be losing, Like I know, I feel bad about it, Like you made your team worse by this victory yesterday. Your draft pick got worse. So terrible tanking by you, sir.

I really wanted to give the was the Kevin Garnett anything as possible, Like I just wanted to scream it because in Dynasty, you're picking up guys, and mostly I'm picking up players just so I can trade them away. At this point, like we understand where my team is at it's in a rebuild, and I started that process in a couple different ways. But yeah, if you have a dynasty team and you're like, ah, I'm kind of just waiting for this next year draft picks and then you kind of somehow stumble into wins, You're like, that's cool. I didn't didn't know if I wanted to do that, But man, this is a dirty roster. How did it feel to be beaten by Trey Sermon, Ray Ray McCleod.

Terrible? Actually, And just the nail in the coffin was Kaream Hunt. Twenty seven carries in primetime was just pure pain, which, by the way I saw on Tuesday, you put him on the trade block in this league? What are you looking to get there for mister Hunt?

Anything? Anything possible?

Fourth, I would tell anything.

So like in my I like, he won't be on my roster this next year based on where I'm at. But it's like those are the type of players that you kind of spend something to the league and to say, hey, if you need a running back, come get them, And you know, like, like Kareem Hunt, what are you going to get right now? Nobody is anybody going to give me a second.

No, you might get a third though.

Even that doesn't feel like I want to give that up. But maybe that's where I'm at. But yeah, Dino Junior, Mike and Jason have a team that they're still trying to ride dirty really old Betts has a solid team, and my team was super fortunate for years, just just hanging on by a threat. I think I made playoffs like five out of six years, and now I'm just moving on. But it was nice. It was nice to be able to say that to your team, Bets that my ragtag group of Borganoni's jabronis just just took it to you.

Man, they are some Bernis. But who's laughing now.

I'm not really sure. I just wanted to hold this over you for just just a hot minute. But on this show, we're gonna be talking all things trading. We're at the point of the season where you are assessing your roster and we put out a question in our discord and on X and Man. So many people are just asking the basic question of what is the value of this player and the best way to assess that. You know, because every single player you can kind of go through, you can look at trade charts. We don't do that. But really the best thing is you need to start making offers. Make offers, even if they're just like out of out there, like nobody's gonna do that. So for instance, I'm gonna ask for a second for Kareem Hunt and everyone's gonna go I don't really want to do that. Well, at least I know where he is, but just asking arbitrarily you might not find out. So I would just say before getting all the trades and all of our discuss guys, I mean, part of is just being active and having an active league where you are always in conversation. So with trades, do you feel like people just need to talk more rather than just talking online. Yeah, talking league, but also make offers.

But also yeah, I mean I agree, and it's it's a it's the snowball. You know. We people ask all the time my league is not active, how do we get people trading? And it could be it very difficult, Like if if the car is at a dead stop, getting it going is tough, but on once it has some momentum and other people see trades happening, that that can get it going. But yeah, I mean in general, you know, if you are just checking in with the other people in the in the in the league from time to time, you know, but you couldn't even just be talking crap, like just trying to keep the It's not weird that you're hearing from me, basically, it's like, you know, you're just you'll hear from me. Maybe it's a week once every week and a half or so, but try and keep those lines open.

Yeah, make sure you're making fun of your friends. I mean, that's what fantasy is all about. I will say too, this is like the natural time of year where like the contenders and people in a full rebuild, like it's starting to be pretty obvious of like who the top you know, five six teams are in your league. Naturally, it creates easy trading partners, I think with you know, they're going to want some of the older veterans that might not have as much value next year. At the same time, if you're off to a rough start and your team has some younger pieces, you can continue to collect those younger pieces and draft picks and really start that rebuild. So it's kind of natural time of the year where things are starting to look more clear in terms of who's a contender and who's not, and then you can pare up your trading partners that way.

I want to make sure that you guys know about our Ultimate Dashboard, which we've spent tons of time building out, even some features right now on the Fantasy Footballers dot Com that we're still working on, still getting to find tune, but right now, the stream finder tool, the string of schedule tool. I mean, I've made some offers in leagues and in Dynasty we're often thinking so far in the future, but it's like I'm trying to trade for some of these teams for rest of season. Like Breese Hall is one of those players that we got asked a ton about and according to a schedule, he has the easiest schedule moving forward. He just happened to play the Vikings last week, which didn't help out so much. But yeah, some of those tools I feel like are helping inform my decisions. And Mike, that's kind of been something that I don't know. I feel like five six years ago, you guys like, let's create a tool that people can use that we would actually use, and I feel like you, Jason and Andy like really knocked it out of the park here.

For which the stream Fighter or the dashboard.

I use stream Fighter every single day, but I'm talking about the dashboard and Jen oh yeah.

Yeah, yeah the dashboard. Yes, it's because I mean it's customized to what your stuff is. You just sink your league. It's real easy and I use it every Tuesday now, like this is this is how I do my waivers now, and I mean it's how I catch things. It's like, you know, here's the waivers, here's who available. And sometimes I'm like, oh, I actually, you know what now that I'm seeing everyone here, I would prefer this player so on a go when I tweaked the rankings, so it's it. Everything is iron is sharpening iron with that tool. So I'm really really proud of it.

Yep, join thefoot dot com if you want to be a part of that. But let's jump in the rewind.

Weekly rewind.

Every week on the Dynasty podcast, we rewind a film and we do a deep dive on a player.

Bets.

I will let you talk about the film because I was there and it was as good as you could imagine.

I was gonna say, I don't even know if we can do a film review. You could just give us the play by play in person because you were at Mercedes Benz Stadium, and I mean, what a place to watch a game. Last Thursday Night's game was unreal, super fun to watch. But what I took away from it, obviously is that Kirk Cousins, you know, is the greatest quarterback ever. You know, in all seriousness, it's like the Drake. The Drake London usage. You know, the numbers are inflated for everybody in this game because of how wild it got, and we can't expect that moving forward. But when you watch Drake London this year, especially over the last two weeks, compared to what he was doing in Arthur Smith's system, where it's like he is a perimeter wide receiver and I think about a lot of the targets he had in that offense, A lot of it to me, was like contested catches down the field, which it's very boom bust. And I think Drake Lendon is a lot better than that in terms of an overall player and wide receiver. And you're seeing that this year in the new system, with Zach Robinson specifically looking at him as like this power slot wide receiver where his slot usage every year has gone up from fifteen percent to nineteen percent this year. Thirty four percent obviously is a career high. And when he's been in the slot, it's been awesome. And you saw that in that game Thursday night, where he seemed to have a really good understanding of like sitting in the saft spot and zone. They put him in motion a lot, giving him a ton of looks in the middle of the field where it's like not just the deep stuff, but also some of these intermediate routes where he can win and go after the catch, like he's really good with the ball in his hands after the catch. So I was super encouraged by that in terms of how he looked in that role, and I hope that continues moving forward because I think it'll give him an elevated floor. But then also we know the big plays can happen to with that ceiling. So just put some numbers to it. This is per pff. He's two point one seven yards were out run fro the slots this year compared to one point eight to nine when he's on the perimeter.

Yeah, one of the things they did, like you mentioned, is they put him in motion and then they kind of like almost hit him in the slot, like where like Pitts was like overshadowing him. And I felt like the play was just bullyball, like he's big, kind of like Mike Evans. Get him in space and he would just pick up yards after the catch, and just a lot of first downs were just converted where it's like, man, Drake London, he's just big, like and that's the part that's really hard to see translate from college. It's like, this is a contested catch, guy, Are we really gonna see that? And it's like we've seen some of those big plays, But I feel like the way they're using him is like great for fantasy. We're getting volume, we're getting him in space, getting hi in the middle of the field. So yeah, it was really really great to see. And I feel like the conversation we've had of those three wide receivers Garrett Wilson, Drake London, Chrystal Lobby, like there's been ups and downs, but right now London is trending in the right direction. Garrett Wilson saw a stupid amount of targets to get over one hundred yards, and then Krystal lab had a stinker of a game.

He got, he got Kansas City.

I will say though I needed two points from him in a league to win my Dynasty matchup. He got me two points. Oh okay, so you got it.

Oh.

I won by the narrowest margin possible.

Didn't have a catch in the fourth quarter and like that was like put it over the edge.

That's put me over the top. So it was super close. So yeah, Drake London, I felt like everything you saw for Fantasy and then you saw in film, it's like this is lining up. But Mike, you have another player who showed out on Sunday night.

It was a Nasty Boy fellas running hot on Nasty Boys. These days it is Rico Suave Dowdle starting running back for the day else Cowboys. Never a doubt in my mind that it was. It may not work out after the first few weeks where Zeke was the starter, but he was the RB three on the weekend. Huge week for him, twenty for eighty seven, two targets, two for twenty seven and his score had that nice receiving touchdown where he kind of the play like it was essentially a broken play. But Dowdell found himself wide open the corner made the catch like, that's he made it right. I mean that could be a nerve wracking catch where it hits you in the belly and you're wide open. Whateverbody got it. He was almost twenty for eighty eight and a score on the ground had not been for the Steelers. I can't remember the Fellers named the linebacker who just had a free per. I mean this was full Paula Malu style, like timed perfectly, jumps over the trenches and just crushes Rico Dwell and the fumble. So, I mean, we were that close to having not just a big game, but an absolute monster game. So I went back and watched, and my overall takeaway was I thought the film was good. I'm not gonna say it was fantastic, But he's I mean, he looks like a player who hasn't got a ton of carries in the NFL, which he has not despite how long he's been in the NFL. You know, he's never been the go to guy, so there is some hesitancy, but I think he's making pretty good reads. Had more than a handful of carries where you're like, oh, that's a good strong run where you bounced off two defenders. A couple too many times where I see a defender grab his leg and he goes down. It's like, come on, man, you gotta have the tree trunk strong, stronger than that. But soft hands keeps moving up in opportunities, keeps he is the guy, you know. There was a bizarre report last week of oh, Dallas is looking to shake things up or change things in the running, and it was not clear at all. It was like, is this a point for Rico Dowdell that they're gonna go with him? But if but if you dove into it and looked at the actual quote, it talked about Dalvin Cook might get elevated off of the practice squad because he was kind of if you remember it's a while ago, but people got scared off of Rico Dowdell because Dalvin Cook came to town and joined the practice squad. Well that didn't happen. I mean, like as in it went to Rico. So it was really exciting. Next week's matchup is absolutely brutal. But if he gets this volume on a high powered offense, Dallas's third and total red zone plays per game right now, like he's going to fall into the end zone more often than not. So I and the fact that he's involved in the receiving game two catches that sucks, but he has had Like he's showing that this is a part of his skill set that the Cowboys need to use.

And I feel like all along, like one, it's been fun to be on Rico's team. Mike, as somebody, You're like, hey, I think.

That he's gonna are welcome.

Yes, Now, I also hear what you're saying is like he's not elite. Mike's not saying like go trade for him or anything I'm assuming right now.

But I mean I think that he'll be a good player for this year. Like this is not a like this isn't the holy crap, we did it. We found the next starting quarter or running back for the Cowboys for the next few years. I We're a long ways away from that being the case, but every week has every week has gotten better and he is by far the best runner on this team. There again, there's and just out there. You know, I don't think there's anyone who could scare me off of Rico doubt or being added to this team, and Ricodouda won't hold him off aside from a weird trade. But I'm just saying, guys on the street, Rico's job looks pretty safe.

I watched the film, and I would say his contact balance is pretty good. He always ends up falling forward, and I think it's just because he's big and so at the end of the day, like with Dallas, like you want score opportunities, He's just kind of big enough. But I did write this down. I don't know if it's mean. I don't I found what he's e lite at, and I don't think he hits the hole very hard. Like I think it's he's elite at kind of trying to dance, but he's and being have this hesitation kind of what you said it was like lev Bell stuff, but it's not.

It could be that's I mean, I think I want to see another game of him getting a huge amount of carries because maybe that's just his running style. Uh, maybe it's like that, that's how the plays are worked for him. But there were definitely a few times where I thought, oh, come on, Rico just turbo jets that right there. But then I thought there's a few other plays where he does be hesitant and then he hits he he is an explosive player. Like his actual metrics are are quite good for his size and his weight.

He's twenty six, I believe.

Yes, he is only twenty six.

He's twenty six. And then let me hold on, I gotta check something here. So okay, so he did. He had eighty nine carries in twenty twenty three. He's already up to fifty four. So let go.

Rico maybe played himself in another contract.

That maybe maybe, maybe, maybe it's the starting running back for Dallas Cowboys. Who's to say so.

To put a bow on it, to put a bow on this with with Dowdell, would you if you're not a contender, this is like an obvious trade away after last night's game.

Oh yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, but like my team, right, yeah, you should be Yes, you should be trading Rico and you should get more for Rico than Kareem Hunt.

Cool. Well, Mike, you're in that league, and uh, I guess I could trade him to you.

You can. Well, Jason is also my co manager, okay, Jay, And we know how we know how Jason feels about Rico Dowdell. Despite uh, two really strong games.

Now he's more of a loopkey guy.

Yeah, yeah, you may have an offer in your inbox though, Kyle, I'll check that out.

I wanted to throw out Rock Bowers and at this point, like SOD twelve target, he was eight for ninety seven to one. Went back watched the whole game. The thing that we loved in college is that they manufactured touches for him, like tight end. That's not normal for tight ends right where it's like you get screens, and at Georgia right, they like gave him end rounds, lots of stuff. It's just it's awesome when you see that in the NFL. His touchdown was basically I'm better than you and I'm gonna jump over you and then I'm just gonna keep going. So that was awesome stuff. And even when you looked at Cirtan's pick six, Bowers was wide open on that play and Gardner just overthrows him. It's interesting because when I watched this game, I didn't even care who the quarterback was, Like, it just didn't matter. We joke all the time that Minshew and AOC are like the same person. But compared to other tight ends. I was kind of looking at how much did they put him in motion. He's tied with Kelsey for the most tight end receptions in motion. And that's essentially what you're getting right now, right is like a young Kelsey who's the focal point of an offense. He's the highest graded rookie for any position for PFF, the high created tight end period. So everything that you see in the stat line is he really is that good? He is the focal bard of the offense. I don't care who the quarterback is. And you know before the season, was it Laporta? Was it McBride. It's unquestioned brock Bauers is the tight end one Dynasty and in right, I mean it's like who else would you rather have? Right now?

Yeah? No, in dynasty. I just I remember having this conversation last year, who I mean, who could you possibly want over slammed Laporta? Right now? Like that's that's my only hesitancy, people, is for rock Browers is probably the number one Dynasty tight end. He's gonna where is he right now? Just in this year's redraft.

In redraft he's won right and right ahead of Kittle.

He is okay, So he is the tight end one good grief, Wow, built different.

And how would you say BET's like there's no argument. No, no, you can make an argument obviously, not at all.

Just with you know, I feel like in the prospect season I was a little bit higher on just like I would take him at the fourth pick or fifth pick over you know, some of the other wide receivers like Worthy or Brian Thomas Junior, which I mean that looks like an awesome pick if you took Brian Thomas. But brock Bowers I just higher on, just like this guy, what he did in college is just not normal. So let's just bet on him and hope good things happen. And then the landing spot was again this is another reminder for Dynasty, like people always overvalue landing spot, I think a little bit, especially in the short term. But now Davonte is gone, right or will be gone. I don't know what's going on with Michael mayor not that early matters, but he's been out the last couple weeks with the personal issue. There's no long term quarterback. But I just think he's so good that it doesn't really matter. And I think there's a pretty good chance we see AOC if it's not this week, but very soon, like Gardner's already been benched twice this year in game, so the change, in my opinion is coming soon and later. And there were times last year where you know, Aidan O'Connell definitely has his flaws, but like he was peppering Davante over, he can deliver the ball.

To his he was, he was throwing the ball and the the and the stat nerds would say, oh yeah, that was probably for Devonte Adams. That's I look, Brock Bowers is I'm not taking away from that, but I do care if it's Gardener or Aidan O'Connell. I think Gardner is a much better player for our needs NFL wise. I mean that fine, the Raiders. You guys can have a weird quarterback competition in Week six. That sounds like a really healthy thing to do for your franchise. Uh, but I don't think O'Connell is a solution. You mean, yes, targets and should Devanta Adams leave, which it sounds like it, Bowers with Aidan O'Connell as long as as long as Bowers is willing to get in that huddle and be like Adams and look Aiden like grab a face man and be like Aiden throw the ball to me on the next play, Aiden, throw me the ball, like we need Bowers to I don't know if he has that or not.

He doesn't a personality.

Does he have that dog?

He's gonna need that as a former Georgia bulldog. He has the dog. But Adams has come out multiple times he's like, I can't get anything out of this guy, like he's he's pretty mild mannered.

Well he's he's an iceman, but I need him to get in the quarterback's face and say you throw me the ball.

They will have a different quarterback next year. I mean they're they're probably picking top six and so there's lots of different options. We'll see how that changes. But yeah, Browers, just you knocked it out of the park. And next week we will be doing our rookie draft redrow rookie Draft redo and going through that first round and second round. And that's kind of the point right now is like where do you take Bowers? Right now?

Where do you take Jaden Daniels? Like, I mean, seriously, where where do you take him?

We'll find out next week. That'll be fun. Yeah, what a what a pro teas there. Let's take quick break and we'll be right back. I did receive an offer from Mike for Kareem Hunt sitting in my inbox.

It's what we talked about. But I'm going to counter, you know, stir things up.

That's not how it's not how it works. Kyle.

Hey, we're starting a conversation though, on a podcast. Do you want to share what it was? It's just Kareem for a third, and I was like, I can get a little bit.

More, we'll see what would you take that? I mean, obviously the demand, do you want a job? You accept that trade right now? Would you take that? Or if you're a contender, like I mean, I was just looking at our shoem finder tool. Jee's with the fifth easiest strength of schedule remaining price went up? I mean, would you would you trade a third for him? If you're a contender asking for myself?

Oh yeah, No, Mike's making the right move. I think he's worth a little bit more than a third, but it's starting a conversation.

Don't overplay your hand, dude. You just got him for fab.

Yes, but but they're going on by and so nothing can hurt this man except for except Clyde.

All the sudden reports come out, Clyde's looking fantastic and he might take the job hand.

We'll counter in a second.

Let's talk trades.

We are at the point of the season where you are probably figuring out, Okay, what do I do with these players? I'm a contender, I'm in rebuild. Like, there's so many different variations when we talk about certain players and what to do. So if you're out there, I would point you to our Discord channel, our Dynasty channels, our Dynasty Superflex channels, our trade advice channels, in our Discord Ballersdiscord dot Com. I mean, you're gonna get so much more feedback than you could imagine. But we're gonna give a couple of quick trade away and trade for candidates in Dynasty. And then it's some questions because there's a lot of people out there that are basically asking what do I do with Bijon? What do I do with Breise. I saw someone that said, like, hey, I got Bijon in a rookie draft, and like, do I just kind of like move on now and just like trade it for a second? I was like, no, No, not at all. You have a very valuable asset that people want don't panic trade this guy, so I will let you go first bets a trade away candidate in dynasty right now.

Yeah, we've talked about this player a lot over the last I would say, like a year and a half with Stefan Diggs, who I think is a good trade away candidate specifically right now. And we've talked about this in the past with trading, where you want to be mindful of the news cycle, whether it's in the off season with like draft rumors or free agency or whatever, suspension stuff like that, but also like in season, there's perceived value increases and decreases in a player. Nico Collins just picked up a hamstring injury, so presumably most people will think, okay, Steph Diggs gets a boost for the next couple of weeks, Tank Doug gets a boost for the next couple of weeks. If I'm not a contender and I'm not relying on Steph Diggs this year, I think this is the perfect time to get out. We've already seen the warning signs over the last you know, two years or so, where late in the year he seems to decline and right now has averaged up the target six point six yards is by far the lowest of his career. He's not really making big plays. He's kind of gotten there in fantasy a couple of times on touchdowns, but he's only averaging one point six to eight yards for out run. Again, that's a career low for a player turning thirty one in November. So I just think this is a perfect time with the Nico injury already seeing some efficiency warning signs that it's a good time to get out. I feel like you can probably get a first for digs from a contender late first something like that for digs, and if I'm not relying on him for a playoff push, I would certainly do that in my league.

Would you take two seconds?

I think that's fair. I would probably take that too.

What about if I were to offer you my digs for your twenty twenty six.

First, I would not do that, okay, because I.

Have digs and just seeing what, you know, see what's working out.

There, Kyle trying to trade his players to us.

Kyle literally has just planned the show for himself.

Hey, you know there's somebody out there that says no. But I think with Diggs we talked about last year, we talked about last offseason and right now, I would say his value is the highest it's going to be for a while with this little short like what do we do with Nico? So it's more of just playing the game of like, Okay, six weeks from now, is he more valuable or a year from now. I think we'd all say a year from now, he's not going to be as valuable. Correct, correct?

Correct?

So what is? He's a wide receiver wide receiver two in full PPR that kind of doesn't have any explosiveness anymore, and that has a place for some rosters if they need it. But at the end of the day, it's like, I just feel like his upsides cap now. The Tank Dell fears are real, So I think that's kind of where a lot of people are. It's like maybe he's just replaced Tank and I'm terrified because I've taken a lot of redrafts. So how do you guys feel about the pecking order? Because Diggs is still seeing a huge target chair.

I mean, look, it's hard to it's hard to see exactly what's going on when you're when you've been on Team Nico the whole time and you're just soaring through.

The clouds, feeling great about life.

Of all these Tank Dell people saying that he's coming to be the number one on the team, it's Diggs is so strange to me because I we were pretty heavy on our stance of I don't like, we didn't like his ADP, and I feel like we're simultaneously wrong and still right at the exact same time. Like he's been You're like, oh, he's the wide receiver thirteen. But he's been, he's been good, good ish, But it's like a six yard rushing touchdown, Like what is that? Nonsense like that that's not supposed to be happening in the variants. So I think there's there is I will say, like a slight there is a path where Diggs is still as valuable next year as he is right now. Of if he if he keeps having a good, strong season for the Texans, he is a free agent. The Texans, if you remember, they like they moved money around so that Digs is a free agent next year. So which they what they trade for him? I mean it wasn't like a two that sounds right up time, Kyle, you pull that up, But I mean like they traded real assets for him. It was a like it felt like a smart move for the team as they're making a push to go to the super Bowl. And that's what I mean, like if they make a run, a good playoff run, and Digs is a part of that. And Tank Dell is doing what he's done through these first few weeks. I can I can see them, you know, really bringing Digs back and just saying, hey, we're gonna run it again. Yeah. See. So the trade was, uh, trading Digs to the Texans with a sixth rounder and a fifth rounder in exchange for a second. Okay, so that's what's the player plus a six and a five for a for a two in twenty twenty five. I mean, they're gonna want their value, right right, the Houston Texas are gonna want their value. So there is a world where that happens. But I'm more on the side of if if I'm a contender, this is this is not a building block. This is someone who or ups. If you're not a if you're a rebuilder, you should be trying to maximize the value of Stefan, Diggs and Betts. Is correct. The dynasty market is so tied to the news and it's so tied to emotion and tie tiny little shifts in value here and there. So that's if Nico if it comes out, Hey, Nico's gonna miss a couple of weeks, then Stefan digs value. I don't think will be higher this season than it would be if if something like that came out.

Yeah, for sure. And it's not like he looks like dust like. I don't think you're saying bets like he's done or anything. It's just you're getting peak value now and if you need to move on, you can move on. Yeah, Mike, you have another wide receiver that's kind of in that same spot of like guys we talked about this offseason as older, if he needed to trade them away, do it like he. I believe he was on our he was our trade away targets in the Dynasty Pass.

Yep, in the Dynasty Pass. He was. Of guys who I'd be willing to move is Deebo Samuel Senior of the San Francisco forty nine ers, who is rapidly approaching his twenty ninth birthday. And I will tell you that AFT that was a wild ride this offseason thinking about trading Debo, because a lot of that was my I was I went full Ostrich in the sand of Brandon. Aiyuk's gonna be on the forty nine ers. He's gonna get the check from them, and once they do that, the following year, they they're gonna have to make some money decisions here because they're gonna have to pay Rock Party or seemingly they should have to pay Rock Party, and then they have all this cash locked up into just a couple of players. Can Debo hold on or is he gonna have to be a cap casualty and they move him away and just up on everything like the age. The fact that Debo has actually only been season long. He's only been great for Fantasy two times, and it's his career is so wild as the way that we think about Deebo because he's such a good player, but it hasn't been multiple, multiple years of just consistent. Oh man, he's so great for my fantasy team. It's been hot and cold, and so I just he's a player that I'm willing to move away from to kind of do the I'm gonna get out before it's too late to get out, which that's kind of what the Steffan Diggs argument is it might be a year or two early on Deebo where he's still going to have value, but I think that the end is probably coming for his career. He doesn't strike me as a a Mike Evans type where it's like the longevity in the career if I mean, it's hard to identify people like imagine like if we had this podcast three years ago, we probably would have been like, hey, you know what, you might want to trade Mike Evans because the dude's getting old. There's no way that he can keep doing this. Yeah, well some players can't. I don't think Debo is that type of a player.

Though, I will say too on Deebo. It's just from this year standpoint as well as beyond. You know, we're still waiting on when Christian McCaffrey comes back. But some of his production this year has come from that, you know, air quotes like pseudo RB two role behind Jordan Mason where you know they'll give him three four carries in a game and we'll see HMC there.

You know.

Historically his splits have been less rush with that's when that's been the case. The other thing with Deebo is you know, let's say the team does move on, whether it's this year or not this year, excuse me, next year or the year beyond. You know, It's like I'm not saying he wouldn't produce somewhere else. But Kyle Shanahan just knows how to use Deebo Samuel and it's been a match made in heaven over the years with Debo that I do have some fears about just another offensive coordinator maximizing his skill set, especially if he is approaching you know, thirty thirty one years old. So I do think right now, again, if you're not a contender, it's a good time to get out when you can still get peak value.

His questions from carb Monster. He brought this up about Deebo. I thought it was just really simple of just what is good value for him and bets your debo manager, do you feel like you can get a first plus something else?

I think you probably could a first and a second, a first and a young player or something like that. I think that's a very fair deal.

The first and a young wide receiver who hasn't done anything yet. Like that's that's my I preferred way to go because it gives me like two good shots first in a second is what's kind of where my brain went immediately. But it's like if you can go get like if you've missed the Jalen Polk news, things are trending good for him. Production has not been there. The production hasn't been there, and that's why what is so appealing about this funny enough is like I love that he hasn't done anything yet, but he has. He's worked his way up to being the he's the wide receiver one now for the for the Patriots. It didn't start that way, but the snaps, the route participation, everything has been trending up to the to this past week where he is the wide receiver one. Drake May. If you didn't hear this as well, we'll be starting for the New England Patriots. Is Drake May gonna be good for the NFL? I don't know, but these are the shots that you're gonna take, Like what if May is very good? If May is very good, then Jalen Polk is gonna be a good fantasy hasset. Maybe not a top twelve wide receiver, but a guy who you're gonna want to put into your flex like Drake May's like his just his his natural gifts and talents are fantastic and matching up with fantasy football production. So a one in Jalen Polk something like that is finding a young wide receiver who hasn't broken out yet, but you like what's going on around them.

Would you do it for a one in ADENI Mitchell, who's done also nothing.

Ad and I it's I mean that whole scenario in situation is like Richardson has played so poorly and already heard again it's I think it's it's terrifying to buy into the Colt's ecosystem as a whole. Uh, And seem quite a few people I like, I need to go watch this. So I'm only being a parrot here for what people are talking about on on Twitter, Colts reporters and things talk about ada E's Uh. It seems like he does not want to get hit and he's making it's affecting the way that he plays, like business decisions, not necessarily business decisions, but like just the way that he is playing right now, like playing a little bit scared and leaving some production on the field that he could get more. So I need that's something I need to dive into. But overall the colts though, it's like it's like it's Pittman, Josh Downs is a real player, ad Ni Mitchell with if Richardson, if they keep going with Richardson and you have what one hundred and fifty something passing yards to go around here, yeah, I don't think I would not for Adnai.

I think it depends on your evaluation of Adie Mitchell. If if you were in pre draft and like you were super excited about him, then I guess it's fine. I was a little bit lower. I just the peripherals weren't great. And you know, when you're sharing a field with Pittman and Josh Downs, those guys are very good target earners. It leaves very giant gantor yeah, exactly, it leaves very little for Mitchell. Now, of course, he could grow in his role and that sort of thing over the course of the year in his career, so we need to leave our minds open to that. But yeah, it's just weird, like sixty four percent of the snaps in week one, fifty percent week two, and then Josh Downs is back hit the bench, buddy, So you are encouraged by that. But at the same time, it's early in his career. So if if you were in on him, I think it's okay, But go back to your evaluation in the pre draft process, and if you were lower, I definitely wouldn't do that.

All right, I'm gonna throw out one more trade away candidate, and this one, I feel like is spicy in the sense of, like, if you're a contender, just stay, like, just hold you. You don't need to like trade him right now. But Brian Robinson Junior is the RB six on the season. This is the exact same thing we were doing last year where he got off to the hot start. He was like a top five running back for the first ten weeks of the season, And right now I'm looking at a couple of different sites. People are viewing him in Dynasty as a near top fifteen back, which feels very, very spicy based on what he's done, which has been awesome. You know, he's basically been a top ten back three times. He's been double digits every single week. He's running hot on touchdowns and he saw that this past week. It was two touchdowns. They were so far ahead they kind of saved him. He was banged up but three of his games he's also three point three a carry, two point one, two point six. He's not really an explosive guy. Sixty five percent of his carries this year have been for four or fewer yards, and he's exceeding and expected fantasy points or actual fantasy points as opposed to expected. So with Eckler there and the overall rushing opportunities also being skewed because Daniels takes them away, I feel like, right now you've just been really fortunate with touchdowns and how good this team has been. Where I don't love the matchup this week against Baltimore, but in general, I feel like he's a player that you can sell high. Right now.

I am so happy you brought this up because I'm I have a weird uh not relationships the wrong word, but whatever line of thinking. Because Brian Robinson Junior. My introduction to him was he was brought in to steal the job from my sweet sweet Antonio Gibson. So I just already didn't like him. I didn't like what he represented. It was had literally nothing to do with him. It's just the I wanted Gibson to be the starter forever for Washington and then it just obviously the Gibson has this stuff and Robinson does take over. But there was something about it to me. Again, I didn't I didn't want it to be my priors of just being upset about the situation, but it felt so fraudulent last year it if I mean a lot of that. You know that when you do the hey from week one to week ten. So much of that was what the Denver game, I believe it was. He had one game where he like went nuclear and juiced up his average for weeks. And it's like, it seems like it's almost happening again where you are. We're five games in the dude has five rushing touchdowns. I mean, that's that is running really really hot. Meanwhile, Austin Eckler, who is much older than Brian Robinson Junior, looking really good, and that I bring that up in terms of like Brian Robinson should look awesome, Like if Eckler is looking this good on this team, Robin should Robinson should look awesome, And he just he doesn't look awesome to me. He looks like he is the leader in the timeshare for a team that is scoring a lot of touchdowns, which is very valuable, but we're just talking long term. When the variance bounces back. It seems like there could be a stretch, a five or six game stretch where you're going, what the heck is wrong with Brian Robinson.

Yeah, he's benefited describing Sorry, Kyle, Yeah, keep going back. I was gonna say, he's just benefited so much from Washington well at performing expectations right, Like, this team had a six and a half win total. They weren't really projected to be favored in a lot of games though. The number one scoring offense which no one saw coming, and there were small offensive line concerns at the start of the year as well. And I think I'm not saying that stuff. Can't you know, change course over the year or whatever, but just I think the Washington offense right now is set to come back down to earth at some point. Doesn't mean they're not gonna be good, it's just will they be the top scoring offense in the league the entire year? I would say probably not. And so if you have some regression there, then the touchdown opportunities are going to come down, which is kind of what you're saying. I will say, if you are going to trade him away. Don't do it this week after the Baltimore game. The box score is going to be kind of tough against that defense. They get Carolina in week seven. So after Carolina, when presumably he will get there as everyone does, that's a good time to maximize the value.

Mike, you were kind of describing it's like in middle school, where you know, you like somebody and then all of a sudden, like you got a good thing, and then this new person comes in and and you're just like.

I don't like that guy.

Yeah, I don't even know him yet. I don't even know that dude. Get out of my class. This was my zone. And uh then she's hanging out with him now, and you just you're just kind of sitting there going, oh so.

And then my guy's the backup running back on the Patriots.

How you got that new starter though? Yeah, on the remandree fumbling.

Situation, I was like I would have Oh that I had, I would we would have been back, except for mindra is the one who had the good game, Like if I was, you know, just sitting in a in a dark corner and might you know, yeah, it's good, good, good take the job. And then and it was it was nothing. It was just a it was a uh theatrical disciplinary move that for if you have reminder a young squad. Hopefully that he took that to heart.

Yeah, Andy kind of saw right through that. He's like I think Ramand is still going to see the majority of the touch. They split the snaps, but in terms of like who got used when they were on the field, it was still Remondre. Let's take quick break and we'll be right back. We are going to hit a couple more trade four targets and then we'll hop into the mailbag in just a second. So bets you go first.

Yes, I'm gonna give us a trade target. Who I don't think he's going to do a ton for you right now. I mean maybe, but really this is the play for next year and beyond Eric all Junior the tight end for the Cincinnati things. Mike's in, so we should be in. This is a fourth round rookie this past year who went to Iowa, and obviously if you go to Iowa, you're guaranteed to hit in the NFL. That's just how it works. But he went to Michigan, transferred for his final year to go to Iowa. He missed a lot of the NFL draft cycle, so we didn't cover him a ton in the off season just because he was recovering from a torn acl But he's already getting on the field as a rookie. Played forty two percent of snap so far this year, and it's a very small sample size, but he is earning targets at a very healthy clip on his routes. Twenty six percent target's route run for any player is very very good for a tight end is elite. Now will that continue? I would be shocked sharing the field with you know, Jamar Chason t Higgins this year obviously, But that to me is where like the intrigue is is for next year because when you look at this opportunity, I mean, I don't think he's coming back. Crazy things happened, so maybe, But if team moves on, Mika Sicki's a free agent. Tanner Hudson, the other tight end, is a free agent. I think the runway is going to be cleared for Eric All in twenty twenty five, So I'm trying to get ahead of that right now. Trade a third, you know for this guy, a third and a fourth or whatever, Go get Eric all, sit him on your bench and wait for next year. I think he's a really good trade target right now.

And it's like we're all in Dynasty, we're all kind of locked in of like, hey, they took Jermaine Burton to almost red shirt cltivate him for next year, which I still think that's the higher probability of things. But it's like, what what if? What if it's Eric All? You know, low probability, of course, but you just these are these are some these are some chances that we need to take that are really their penny stocks. It's like a low investment, massive potential reward, probably won't happen, but these are the types of moves that you need to make. And before long then you just then you look at your roster and you're like, oh, man, I hit on three of those and that that changes everything for a dynasty roster. When you can hit on just two or three of these. Really these options that people didn't didn't see coming, it like opens things up so much. So just want to imagine that that path exists, because it does.

They've changed this year where they throw the tight end. They never did that in the past.

Ye and it's been weird.

So I mean they had that weird a sickie game. I think it was against the Chiefs where they had like targets.

Chiefs are the tight end funnel.

So yeah, I think it's a great, great pick there, Bets and he's, like you said, cheap. Maybe some of your league doesn't even know it exists, or like, oh yeah, I have this guy my roster. Might as well go for it. Mike, you got a name here at running back.

Yeah, so if you need help, which almost every Dynasty team does on the for the running back, I think Tony Pollard is kind of in a sweet spot of still good, giving you pretty strong production and isn't the it's not the break the bank. Tony Pollard will not be cheap at all to acquire for a Dynasty team, but like he will be. We're heading into Week six, gets to tick on the Colts and then Buffalo. That's great, Okay, I'm cool with both of those matchups. He's passed his bye week, which is you know, you have to look at that almost like that's a bonus game because if he wasn't, if you didn't have to hold him through the bye week, now you just have this player until the end or running back eleven twenty three has the down week, then right back up to fifteen. So I think that there. I don't frequently like trading for running backs. When I do, I like the approach of a lower tiered running back who I is not necessarily a lock for a starting job plus a pick if I can bring the price down because I but if I had to trade like a late first for Tony Pollard, that's a move I would do, and I think in the right economy of a dynasty league, I think that's something that could get done.

I think most people look at the Titans as a giant poop stain. It's just like, I don't want to be a part of this. But he is seventh among all running backs in yards after contact per attempt because a lot of this stuff has just been him creating. So he's been really, really good. That's right there with Kenneth Walker, right there with Saquan I mean, he's he's been good, and in terms of expected Fantasy points, he's top twelve in the league. So I think the opportunity is great And could you get him for a second and a young wide receiver.

I think so that's the ball I think in the right scenario. And he look, he's at the age of generally don't he's twenty seven, So like we're we're approaching rapidly where it's like, this isn't a player I would normally want on my team. However, he just got that, you know, the smaller contract extension, so he should be good to go for at least next year. So this isn't just a you're not burning a pick to rent a running back, which a lot of times you do when you're making a push for dynasty. You're like, I know that I'm not even gonna have this guy, but I have, but I need a running back. So Pollard is someone I think that is not top of the price and should give you value for at least two years.

Trying to come up with names of wide receivers. Could you do a second? And somebody like like, is Polk too much? A second in.

Polk, I think that's probably too rich.

Depends on the second and Jalen Jalen McMillan.

I don't know if that's enough. I don't know what else you got, Keep going, keep going.

Second and Ricky Piersall.

I mean it depends how probably want people are.

I would never have Ricky.

Pearson excited the potential for next year, but.

It would. But we're saying, or I'm saying, they're probably gonna give it at debo, so the like, if I have pearsall everything, all my eyes are on next year, his value is his His value is just is inflated to me based off of uh, hope and speculation.

Yeah, no, that makes sense. I think Paulard is a perfect player to say it, like, I don't have to give up a first. I'm not going to pay a first, but I think I can get him a little cheaper than some of these other running backs and he can kind of kind of fill that RB two flex spot for your team. I wanted to throw out Roma Dunza because I feel like, right now, you're not gonna have to pay top price, and I feel like a year from now, not only he's gonna be way more expensive, but the vibes are kind of with him, like, ah, let's just wait till next year, then Keenan will be out of there. But I think a lot of people are just kind of saying, like, ah, if I did the rookie redraft again, it's like I'd rather have neighbors Marv Thomas rather have Bowers. And then you kind of just keep sliding him down and you're like, is he the one O six one O seven? Like that's kind of where the vibes are with him, and I just want to say, like he had the big blow up game in Week three, which was awesome, but he's been getting targeted and targeted in the end zone. He's tied with DJ Moore for fourth in the NFL in end zone targets. Those are the most valuable targets we can have.

You are catchable.

A lot of them not catchable, including this past week where like the first read was was a dunesa and Caleb just sailed it way out. But they are getting him in on screens, and I just think, at the end of the day, it's like I don't really care that Keenan's you know, on this team, sadly, like it's just this is a different version. So I think that you can trade for a Dounesay now cheaper than what it will cost in the offseason, because I think a lot of people are thinking, like he's not that helpful if you are in you know, six seventh place right now, You're like, am I going to ever start a dounesday right now? And I feel like you could trade and get him for a first and maybe a little bit more another piece.

I think it's gonna be first for sure.

Yeah, Okay, this first second people used, I don't even think that'll get it done. I mean, he was, like, what a top four pick.

He was the ninth overall pick in the draft.

Kyle, you bail it on a top four pick five games and doing No, I'm trading for him, I know, But you're saying that other people then would be willing to bail on a top four packers.

I think people would want to get value because they think that a first and a second and something else might be more enticing to them.

I feel like you're starting if someone doesn't come to me where the opening offers to firsts their conversations, probably that's what I'm saying. But I'm like, if I had O Doonsay, I wouldn't even talk to you unless you started with two ones.

Yeah, if you drafted a Donsay this year, you spent.

I have him, and people have offered me way less.

If you drafted him this year you.

Presumably are you talking to them?

I am talking to him, but I but he's somebody that I think you should trade for right now.

Okay, I mean if you can get him, like, do it. But don't expect to get him for the cheap, because if you drafted him third overall and rookie drafts and single quarterback leagues, everyone knew the roster was Okay, DJ Moore is here, might take some time for Caleb Keenan's here, like this is more a play for late twenty twenty four, but really in twenty twenty five, so everyone already knows that. So like, I don't think you're getting a discount, but if you can get him, I mean, yeah.

I think people have I wrote down wide receiver fomo because I think some people feel like I didn't get the right wide receiver. They'd rather have Brian Thomas.

Oh I see what you mean, would you?

Yes, I'd rather have Brian Thomas.

So if you had oh all right, well the draft is going to be spicy.

Yeah, well we'll see, uh, we'll see how it goes next week. We do have a lot, a lot of trade questions, so I want to get in a couple of those mail bag first question is from Ketchup Doug on X what her names from the drop I just used?

Yeah, Mike, did I do that on the live stream?

That is exactly what it is?

Oh my goodness, Kyle, what is that?

Bets? And I used that all the time on DFS because you know, we're just you know, we don't want to do a mailbag drop again.

Oh I get that, but I was like, I don't rub remember doing this. And then oh, yeah, no, when I did a live stream showing people kind of how I made during COVID, I should show people how I do my drops.

And all right, I researched mail bag drop and that's where I.

Fay it's being used. That's great news.

Ketchup Doug said, has there ever been an episode about general trade strategy and dynasty? I'm a first timer this year and I have no idea how to value draft picks. And then Chris also followed up asking about future draft picks and how do you value those? So I know this is more of a strategy question first, but how do you guys approach just valuing draft pick trading?

I think the most important thing to understand about draft picks because there's a cycle in their value, right, So once we get to December, January, February, the playoffs are here, they come and go. You turn the page towards prospect season. Everyone wants those players, right like this past year everyone wanted Marv and you know, Neighbors and all these guys, Caleb Jaden. The value of those picks are exponentially higher in you know, February, March, April, when the NFL Draft gets here, and then people have the rookie drafts usually in May or June. That's when their value will never be higher. In season. They're pretty cheap, you know. Right now, a twenty twenty five first will cost you way less to acquire than it will in three or four months, and twenty twenty six first. I mean people are like, you know what, I'll kick the can down the road. I can get one of those back later. Yeah, I'll include that intrigued. So if you have this kind of like two three year window of like I know, this rebel might take a couple of years, I think acquiring first in season if you can for not just this upcoming year, but like the year after, is a very savvy move because their price is depleted, but understand each month that we get closer to the end of the season, the regular season, those draft pick costs go up through the roof.

And understanding that the in dynasty that when you say a first round rookie pick, like the perceived value of that is almost always higher than the actual player. And like that's a it's a sad thing to say out loud, but it's the truth because it's the well it it could be a boat, like I I could draft Jamar Chase, I could draft Molik Neighbors. Those guys exist and every once in a while they pop up. But like looking at so our my main dynasty league, you know, Harrison Neighbors that that looks great so far. Rome apparently Kyle thinks that you could get him for like a third round pick. And then but then it's like Xavier Worthy, Keon Coleman, Jonathan Brooks, Trey Benson, how are we feeling about these players? Okay ish, okay ish, and like like Bryan, it's so just saying the draft is wild. And the nice thing about a draft pick is the draft pick can't get hurt, the draft pick can't play bad, So you kind of idealize what that that what that draft pick is going to turn into for your team. Uh. But just know, generally speaking, when we think about the picks, they're worth way more than the players, which we often talk about. Just go get a veteran man, Just go go get a player who you know is good right now. And because it's a bird in hand, you know you're not You're probably not drafting the next Jamar Chase. Those guys don't come over. They they don't even come around every single year. Uh we hit we maybe we have two of them this year. Uh you know from this past rookie draft. But it's just you gotta get over that. You gotta get over that. The the the value of hearing first round pick.

Yeah, because it could be a Nikhil Harry instead of a bove.

Yes one oh one Nikhill Harry. Yeah, it's devastating.

I think just the best thing to do is to put a range of outcomes when you say, hey, I'm trading so and so players, so Deebo Samuel for a first, I hope that first turns into and then name a couple different players. Would you be okay if you got that first and it turned into you know, Zay Flowers, you'd be like, I think that's a serviceable player, but you're not like over the top ecstatic like this this is what a first round player was if it turned into Keon Coleman, which is too soon, but like you'd be like, Okay, we'll see where this goes. But like you can kind of just add in names there. Now the hit rates get way worse. And when we say the hit rates, meaning players that just have usable fantasy weeks, like a top twenty four wide receiver, they're just when you start getting to second and third round, it just doesn't happen. So I think that's just putting names with these picks.

Yes, put a name. I've had the one on one two times in our Dynasty League, Naji Harris and Clyde Edwards a layer like a year was great and then and then it's just, oh no, these guys have actually very little value.

Now, Yeah, it's tough because even like we were so excited in the league to get Marvet at one on one, like, yeah, I still feel excited, but also at this point, you're really saying it could have been neighbors, all right. Next one is from Logan on X. I said, I drafted Jayden Daniels, and I've been thinking about sending a very generous offer to the Terry mclauurin manager. Should I overpay for this tech or target future Washington offensive draft picks.

Don't overpay, No, No, Terry is twenty nine, do not overpay for McLaurin agreed.

I mean, yeah, it's fun to have the stack, but this might not be a stack in two years.

So go, uh see if you can look the senator, I am the Senate Vin Senate, which we said very specifically, we're really excited for him. He rookie tight in for Washington. We were really excited for him, but probably not for this year. Like he is a player who will be on a schedule of a year two, maybe a year three. Breakout the hype for him. After the draft though, when everybody caught up, it overcorrected and like I saw him going in, you know, like early second, mid second, it's like, dude, ah, I'm like I'm leading this this bandwagon, and that's a little might be a little bit too rich unless you have the luxury of I know what this pick is. But saying the value over corrected, maybe it has over corrected in the other direction now of maybe the team that drafted and it was like, shoot, I blew a pick, Send a third and somehow if you could turn a third into a player who was drafted at the back of the second because they're sick of this that he has not seen a single target this year, that's the stack. That's the cheaper stack that I'd be trying to get. Or I mean, maybe are you guys into Luke McCaffrey it all, we got some head nods.

I think he's fine.

He he was lucky to be a third round pick because technically he was a third round pick one hundred overall. But I think we'd have a different outlook if he was one oh one, which is you know, fourth round and Day three draft capital.

I don't mind trading for Terry. I'm just saying I'm not gonna overpay for him just so I can have.

The stack makes sense. Next one, real quick, this is Travis kelce related. We've got a bunch of those. But from McKay, Gordon and Parlay p is it time to trade Travis Kelcey. I'm a rebuilding team. What should I get for Kelsey?

I think you can ask for top dollar now, yeah.

This is this is the moment if you are an.

Hashtag blessed if you had him, wanted to trade him and didn't and then you saw his for a for an entire month, we all went is Travis Kelcey completely done? And then the Rice injury which he I this is this thing is still not like down what? I don't know what's going on with Rice's injury. I think we just got another update today. Best did you catch all of it? Yeah?

It was an LCL tear and they also repaired his hamstring tendon. So all things considered, it's better than it could have been. It's still going to take a few months. Like his season is over this year, but for his health in twenty twenty five, the outlook is much better compared to the a CL. So good news, I'll tell you speaking. But this is Travis Kelce's team for this year. Yeah, I would, and I would sell that in a trade if you're trying to get him off.

Oh yeah, yeah, I and for a difference making tight end like Travis Kelsey. I mean, it's wild to think of where the value was two weeks ago.

I tried tried so hard to get him in the league, and oh, you tried to get him. When trying to get him, yeah, I offered lad McConkey and a third.

Okay, okay, that's not better. I mean that was a first round pick.

Yeah no, And I was so close to getting him. My team was so tight and needy. He's like, I'm gonna wait one more week and so it didn't didn't really work out. But yeah, I think you're gonna need to, you know, to trade them away. I would want a first and more. Yes, I would too, You're not you know this. One person said like, what can I get a second? And look like, no, you can get at least a first right now for Travis Kelce.

And I would be aggressively doing that right now because I look, I think Travis Kelce, I think this happens the rest of the year, but it may not. Right, just leave an option, leave leave the door open that it may not. But as of right now, with the last two games, everyone's thought process is gonna be Travis Kelce is back. This is it for the rest of the year. So his values the only way his value goes up is if you hold on to him as you're approaching your trade deadline and he's still kicking massive butt. Then maybe you can extract a little bit more. But I would probably just get it done right now.

All right, I'm gonna ask one more and I pick through them, and I just thought, hey, this one's too fun? Is DKA for a mid twenty twenty five first? Too much for Nico Collins? Well, not even get it done?

Wait? Wait, so Metcalf and a mid first for Nico.

I don't know if that's gonna get it done.

I don't know if that'll get it done. I would do that. I'd like to have Nico on my team. I think it's fair.

Yeah.

I think if you have Nico, it's like, you know, you're not trading them. It's like, yeah, oh definitely not.

Like Nico is like he's not ranked with Chase and Jefferson, but I think he's He's probably in that tier up there with like Am and Raw and those guys where it's like you just why why trade them away?

Why agree and just have.

These are These are blue chip players who can be foundational for your team for years, and you just draft picks don't turn into these guys very much like like we just said about the value of picks, I'd rather have an elite player and who was tied to a who looks to be like an up and coming elite quarterback.

His his status of going from like two years ago, You're like, I guess he's on my Dynasty Ross dude, Like that's that was kind of where we're at. Where there was some good underlying metrics in year two, but it was like are we just stuck in Davis Mills world? Like that's where we're at. And then all of a sudden, he's on your team, and you going, oh, I have a horse right now. And if your team was bad, like I had a team where I was really bad, I had an ego. Collins got a bunch of picks and then all of a sudden stockpiled where he's like my third or fourth wide receiver. For a while, it's like, let's roll, Like he's one of those players that I feel like, Mike, you just kind of said, like there's thirty different options of ways to go with the Texans. You're just like, I think he's just the best.

He is, so he's very good. He's he burned too bright, burnt his hamstring right off the RANTI fast right to the ground.

Is he.

Is he gonna be out this week a week to They went from day to day to week to week within like thirty mine.

Yeah, I don't think you plays it, especially against the Patriots. I think they're seven point favorites. They probably don't need him to win.

Yeah, probably don't curse those teams.

That's gonna do it. For this episode of the Dynasty Podcast, like I mentioned, next week, we will be doing our rookie Draft redo. Hopefully it'll be helpful for you to assess some value of some of those twenty twenty four players, and we'll talk to you then goodbye.

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