Dynasty Trending or Ending + Sneaky Stats - Dynasty Fantasy Football

Published Sep 20, 2023, 9:00 AM

Biggest Dynasty storylines entering Week 3! On today’s dynasty fantasy football podcast, Borg, Betz, and Mike discuss the Nick Chubb injury, Nico Collins' emergence, and how to handle inefficient RBs on your roster. Join Borg, Betz, and a Baller each week to take your Dynasty fantasy football game to the next level and dominate your league -- Fantasy Football Podcast for September 20th, 2023.

 

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Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Dynasty Podcast with Borg Bets and a Baller.

Welcome in Wednesday, September twentieth, It's the Fantasy Footballers Dynasty Podcast. I am joined by Mike Wright, Matthew Betts, s Im Kyle Borganone. We're back.

Hello week three. Baby.

It's hard to believe. It feels like every August, you know, we kind of have the build up, and then before you know it, it's almost October, and then it's almost November, before the season.

When the season starts, you go to ludicrous speed. Ye, the week disappears because all day Sunday is the glorious, glorious football. Monday, you're like, screw work, this is dumb, and you just burn your hours until Monday Night football starts. Then you spend hours upon hours in your wayver wires. Wednesday happens and you kind of take a little bit of a breath, and then Thursday, screw work, burn the hours into Thursday Night football, and then before you know it, it's Sunday again. It's it is really ridiculous how fast time moves at this period. But hey, guys, time time flies when you have fun, right, Yeah, sir, and fantasy football is fun, right.

Sometimes can be it's it's rough because I feel like Bets has gotten overworked from the injuries this year, like to the point of, man, every single day we have to be like, Bets, is this guy even gonna play?

And these are like I feel it, big time players. Yeah, Like this is a good question because I'm like, man, the injuries have just been ridiculous this year. But I feel like that's something that we end up saying a lot. So from your perspective anecdotally, Bets, do you feel like this is out of control or is this just slightly above normal?

I mean, I think it happens every year, Like you said that, we see that and then we feel it. But I feel like it just happens so much earlier, like with the Cooper Cup things starting on or it's like here we go, you know, top five picking Redraft Lease is on ir and then just the severity I think of the injuries. Aaron Rodgers right, first first drive with the Jets, He's done. JK Dobbins week one done, Nick Chubb done, And these kind of things are happening just so early in the season. This stuff will happen throughout the year obviously, but I agree, it does kind of feel like this year those injuries, especially the ones that are season ending, are hitting harder than usual early on.

Yeah, I feel like I need some perspective to like zoom out, because it does feel like it's all compounded at once, and it feels even more compounded in Dynasty, where you had these hopes for a player over multiple years and then the value gets sucked out of them. And so it's it's tough because we're thinking about these players as human beings with real contracts, with real futures, and then you also think about it from the game, the silly, stupid game that we play, and how much this player is worth is just gone. So, for instance, let's talk about Nick Chubb as just kind of the fallout because I'm in a league where I floated someone floated me to first for Nick Chubb before last night's game, before the game the other night and that didn't happen.

And are you in a are you gone? Are you in rebuild?

I'm in rebuild and so.

And some Yeah, I don't have all this context. You're a rebuilding team and someone offered you too for are they both next year?

No? They're a future first, so like twenty twenty five, twenty twenty six, and okay, kids are really good. So I asked myself, like, if I got the one ten and one eleven for two years, like, is that is that worth it?

Okay? I can forgive you for that, but if because if it was like two first for a twenty seven year old running who's a superstar running back, but for two picks for next year for that and a rebuild, that would have been keep in mind, except immediately, keep.

In mind, the trade wouldn't have gone through until after the game because of him playing and everything else. So there was still like a lot of stipulations to it. But obviously now that's not on the table. I did get an offer for Jerome Ford, and I just went ahead and took it. It was a twenty twenty five first Okay, Okay, yeah, nice. Well so that's that's pretty savvy.

I think.

Yeah, in a rebuild, I think it's totally fine. So let's just kind of gauge the rounds backfield. Who knows who they're gonna sign whatever else. With Chubb, you're just gonna have to hold and see if he comes back. He has no guaranteed money next year. So it's oh no, it's sad to think that a player that I remember on this podcast we talked to Jason, we were talking about his range of outcomes and said, hey, if he smashes this year for this team, there's no chance they cut him, there's no chance they move on. Now it's a real reality with what's going on. So what do you guys think of just how do you handle this with players like Jerome Ford who looked really good. Remember he was at Alabama and then transferred over to Cincinnati, was pretty productive in college. And so give me the kind of lay of the land with Jerome Ford, how you guys are handling him.

Yeah, I'm happy to jump in. I've had him in a couple of spots, just kind of thinking about the backfield and the depth chart entering the offseason. And then we saw them, you know, of course, move on to Green Hunt and he was kind of the last dude, and it's like, okay, yeah, I'll stash him and let's see what happens. And you have just this immediate huge spike in value for a player that you know, we've seen a very very very limited sample might be good but we don't really know, and so for that reason, I am actively trying to move on from Jerome Ford, especially if I'm a middle of the road or a non contending team. Whenever we see these huge increases in value, I'm usually looking to capitalize and be willing to be wrong in these situations. Part of the reason for that. And I don't know if Deshaun Watson's gonna fix it, But the Browns offense looks absolutely broken, and I'm not sure or I should say this, rather, I am sure it's not a one to one replacement like Jerome Ford is not just gonna step in and be Nick Chubb, right, of course not. Nick Chubb has been one of not the most efficient runners in NFL history, So you were not getting that from jerme Ford. And you add in the concerns with Jehaun Watson, how he's looked. Yeah, I mean, Jerme Ford's fine. Like, if you've got him and your contender, sure hold him for an RB two type of play most weeks. But if you're not a contender like Kyle did, I would be absolutely looking to shop him.

Yeah, don't mind getting rid of him right away. Where are you guys with Nick Chubbs, So I'm looking at the details. So Kyle, you are correct. Next year in twenty twenty four zero guaranteed, he would be guys that give worse. It gets worse. He if they keep him at his contract, he is a sixteen point two million dollar cap hit or they can cut him pre June and it is a he turns into a four million dollar dead cap. That's it. And this I mean for the people who which I don't think there's very many of them left, but like the people who are not on the side of the these humans, the running backs, like not on the side of Jacob's Barkley Taylor Eckler of like, no, no, boys, you do what you gotta do and get your shmaney because this is what happens, and you you I can't imagine that the Browns keep them around, Like I don't know what Deshaun Watson's salary cap ridiculousness is going to be, but they're gonna have to find money. When you have given Watson that amount of cash and having it being fully guaranteed, and this it, it is so incredibly sad. Bets, I'll throw it back to you because I don't think we've heard at the time of this recording, we have not heard what the actual injury is. If you, if you are iron stomached enough to have watched the video, the knee was out of direction, sideways and backwards. I mean this, it looked it looked like what was the shoot? Sorry, there was a there was a kid in college for South Carolina. But yes, thank you, thank you Marsha and Latimore. Where it looked where it was just all of a sudden, his leg is not in the right direction. Now I think he was like a full dislocation. I don't know if Chubbs did dislocate. We don't have that again, sorryus, Marcus Marcus, Marcus Latimore. But that's what it reminded me of, like, holy crap, a knee is not supposed to do that, and when a knee does that, you can't imagine anything is left intact. It would be a miracle if to me if any of the legments are are still structurally sound. So that's very little information. But what we have an episode and people want to talk about it. So in your background of it, what are the chances that Nick Chubb could actually come back and be any kind of a capable NFL player.

Yeah, it's I mean, it's hard to speak to it without knowing specifically what structures are involved. But just to give context to it, he was taken to a local hospital for evaluation with the injury. And when whenever you have an injury that's as serious as his was, when you have concern for that dislocation, especially towards the back of the knee, there's a major artery, major nerve that goes there. If those structures are compromised, it is immediate surgery to save the leg. Like that's how seriousness can be.

Those like Zach Millerach Zach Miller, I think of the Chicago Bears, he had that situation you guys have remembered, like his knee did something similar and then he almost lost his leg.

Yeah, Fortunately those structures checked out, so he flew back with the team, which is great all things considered. Now, just a matter of what specifically is involved. But it's definitely ACL, it's definitely MCL. There's gonna be cartilage damage, there's gonna be miniscus damage. I mean, it's one of those like ACL plus plus plus situations. And to make matters worse on top of that. This is a player who already dealt with a significant reconstruction in that same left knee, remember the Georgia injury when he was in college. He's kind of already outlined to overcome that and not just like return to form, but he got better, which is just a testament to how good he actually is. He got better off that injury. For that to happen a second time at this part of his career, given the financial state of the running backs and his age, it's just it's hard to see I think absolute best case scenario as he comes back as like a change of pace type of guy. Maybe, and this is a year a year plus recovery, Like it's not just like, okay, nine months, yeah, maybe we'll see four twelve months hopefully. Like it's a super long road to recovery. And the fact that it's that same left knee definitely makes me worried.

He is legendary, not just I mean, I'll just say in the state of Georgia. He's legendary, high school legendary in Georgia. And then Kyle Brandt brought this up on on on TV like he might be one of the most beloved players across the league where just universally he's just linked.

Yeah, people love Nick Chub Yeah.

And just for what he is. So let me give you some numbers real quick for the for Cleveland situation because next year they are already minus forty eight million behind the cap. So they're not in a good situation already for next year.

Yeah, dude, so it's.

It's not looking good. I'll last thing I just want to say about Jerome Ford. Betts talked about capitalizing year to year. It's really hard for running backs without the draft capitol, right fifth round pick, to be able to say that he's gonna hold a job year to year. So for this year, obviously you're gonna hold on if you had him, trade him away if you want to, you know, sell high right now. But there's no guarantees despite what he does this year. In the same way we said, you know, for other players with that draft capital, it's it's probably not gonna happen. So anyway, tough situation. We get to talk about it from a number of different perspectives and dynasty, but we're gonna debut changing gears here a new little segment this week. We're calling Sneaky stats. No, my drop, I had a fat drop mic. This thing was gonna be awesome. Oh, you kind of snuck up on me.

Then I am Betty Betty sneaky sir.

Okay, all right, you redeemed yourself, Betty bitty sneaky dude.

Super underrated movie, mister Deed's it. It's really funny. It is a really really funny and uh, the sneaky Butler I mean, among the top of bit parts in Sandler movies.

Yes, Now did I find that bit and then watch probably like fifteen minutes of the movie I did.

I just go.

Doing some work. So what we're gonna do throughout the season is offer a sneaky stat line and then slowly reveal who the player is so you can kind of play along. We'll do this for uh, you know, during the season for Dynasty. It's kind of fun. So I will let Betts start first and see if Mike and I can guess who this player is.

I didn't know we were supposed to have a slow build up here, Kyle. You didn't explain the situation, but slow your.

Role, dude, you got this.

I didn't even know I was supposed to come up with a stat line. I thought this was Kyle's game. Yeah, Kyle, come on, man, but here here's where rat boys. Okay, this player played forty of the snaps last he saw eighteen total opportunities thirty five scrimmage yards, So it's not inspiring. Now, I will say this is a player who people were very excited for entering this season. I'm guessing that you can tell, probably based off the way that I talked about total opportunities, that it's a running back. Wide receivers don't see eighteen targets unless they're pokinnakua, right, So is it running back? This is a player people were very excited about entering twenty twenty three.

Eight nineteen opportunities, eighteen opportunities and thirty five yards?

Is booty?

I mean that is that is nothing?

So I don't know give it? Is there any more?

I don't know if there's another hand without just giving up the name. Yeah, I can, I can give one more hand. I guess that's gonna help listeners. Okay, I'll help you too, because you know the show doc we are talking about his teammate later today.

Okay, oh, oh is this Pierce?

This is Damian Pierce. Yeah, who has done next to nothing for fantasy through to.

Kyle stops smiling?

Why smile Kyle Kyle style betting against fourth round picks and fifth round picks and smiling in the process.

Kyle has a weird act to grind with Damian Pierce.

He does. But I did want to highlight Damian Pierce as a little precursor for what I'm gonna be talking about later on today, which is just these inefficient running backs. Man, it's been so tough in the NFL through two weeks for a lot of these guys and the Damian Pierce situation. I just want to get your guys volume on it or or your take on it. Rather you know where you stand, because man, the offensive line is a train wreck. Four out of five starters were at last week. They've got two guys on ir Can they fix it? Do you think better days are ahead? I was at least encouraged they made Mike Boone a healthy inactive to like give a little bit more work in the passing game to Damian Pierce and Devin Singletary. But it's just it's been tough to watch.

The thing I'll throw out there is that on a team that you get volume. It's wild that you're not getting any volume in the passing game, like just enough to be able to say I can depend on this player long term. So I'm I'm of the ill that I don't I don't know if he's somebody that you can go after. I don't think you want to trade for him right now. So at the end of the day, he's kind of stuck in no man's land in Dynasty where he's on your roster. Nobody wants to give you what he's worth. And Mike might add this in, but running backs just they die sometimes on your roster, and so he's just stuck. And I hate saying that for people, but like, if he's your flex, you feel better. But as an RB two, I don't even feel comfortable.

Yeah, let's see. So we had a seven percent target share for Damian Pierce. It looks like in week two here and week one. I mean, that's not that's not the worst. So he was at a sixty five percent of the running back attempts, seventy five percent of the running back targets. But I mean, we're we are learning in real time the tendencies of c. J. Stroud, who Kyle our boy. C J. Stroud, we look hey, though not wins, but those are those are wins. Those are two wins for a rookie coming out there. He looks like he can develop pretty quickly into a starting caliber quarterback. So I'm very excited for Stroud. But we're learning in real time what are his actual tendencies. And some quarterbacks they love to check it down to the running back. Some quarterbacks do not. I mean, and like Nico Collins Fantasy Relevant, Robert Woods from from the Retirement Home to Relevance, Tank Dell in his first real appearance Fantasy Relevance. So I mean c J. Stroud at least two weeks in is saying, I know I prefer to have the wide receivers be my target. And the fact that they are going to be in a negative game script. Okay, let's go through the Jacksonville or I'm sorry, the Texan matchups here. Jacksonville. I expect them to bounce back and have a better offensive performance than they against the Chiefs. Let's go negative game script. Pittsburgh really tough defense, but maybe we get some more Damian Pierce opportunities there Atlanta. Okay, so and then New Orleans before the bye week. So over the next four matchups, maybe you're okay with Pearson one to two of them. But it's a really bad situation, Kyle. I think I agree with you of dynasty wise. I'm just holding on and I'm hoping that after the bye week that the Texans can kind of start getting things going and just hope that there's more scoring opportunity for Peers.

Yeah, you look at the target distribution so far. It's just two games, I get it, But seventy percent of the targets are going to wide receivers.

That's yeah, there you go.

That's tied for the third most in the league. Twelve percent to the running back position. That's not going to get it done. And things might even out a little bit more, they might be in games a little bit more, but still, I just think he's a player that I'm not trying to dunk here. I'm really not trying to dunk. I just at the end of the day, the paths for him to fail were bad team, terrible offensive line, and if you're not getting enough opportunities, like if he got raw opportunities twenty a game, we could just keep trucking here. But it's not great. I will give you my sneaky stat line. And this is also a running back who only saw forty eight percent of the snaps last week, thirty two snaps overall. Okay, so he wasn't even the top running back on his team. But here's the crazy part. He saw an opportunity on fifty percent of his snaps. Oh, I know what this one is, which is just wild.

I'll give you, I'll give you a second best to think about it.

Is this a rookie running back?

No, this this is a rookie running back.

Oh it is Okay, I'm wrong, then I'll take it back.

I think, I think, I go for it.

Bets.

Is this Jamiir Gibbs.

It is Jamiir Gibbs.

So it was pepper targets last week.

An opportunity on fifty percent of your snaps is not just elite, that's just bonkers for any running back. And then through two games, guys, he his targets per out run number is thirty six percent. So I wanted to bring this up because not that you're gonna get a by low window or anything, but just if you are the Jamiir Gibbs manager and you've waited two weeks and you're saying to yourself, like, okay, well where's the actual production. It's it's just about to come in like a flood. So this week is against the Falcons. It's sneaky and I think that I think he's gonna get the endzone too. I think he's also to do so just throw that out there.

It's not and it's it's hard to disagree, but it's also very easy to disagree with you spending a what pick was he did you guys? The number twelve twelve, the number twelve overall pick on a running back that you have given a total of fourteen carries over two weeks like that, don't don't give me rookies, No, no, do not give me rookies need to acclimate. That's poor decision making. A player drafted at number twelve needs to be an impact player immediately if it's not a quarterback who's sitting on the bench learning how to play the position. So I mean, they will figure it out. But this is like there's been there's always so much bad drafting and bad utilization of players. Shout out to the Atlanta Falcons, but it's like, what do we do doing here, Man, get this, get this guy the ball, and then David Montgomery leaves with an injury, and like it should have been one hundred percent Jamire Gibbs at that point. Unleash the beast. See what he can do.

This will put things to the test this week because the Falcons face the Lions, so we can like kind of show each other, like, hey, here's what we do in the drug What do you guys do?

Yeah, and I really here's our part time number four overall, pick coming at you. You might catch two passes.

The thing with Gibbs though, real quick on on the Lions just philosophy and how they view him. I'm not convinced that like they actually are going to unleash him. I hope they do, and I want them to for us for fantasy, but like I kind of feel like they view Craig Reynolds as like David Montgomery's direct back up, and I do Gibbs is his his own role, which if he's getting five six, seven targets, he can still get there. But man, yeah, give the dude more than seven eight nine and touch as a game and let's see what can happen. So this week I think we'll be very very telling.

We're gonna take a quick break and we'll be right back all right on this show. This week, guys, we are going to get to talk about a couple of things because we've only been through two weeks and for some people that ends up being a trend. You're like, Okay, well, this has happened twice, therefore we know what's happening. NBA jam rules states what Mike.

Well states are heating up. They are not officially on fire, but we're gonna call some of these things. We're gonna say, are people gonna splash that three, get on fire, goaltend till their hearts the light? Or will it end?

All right, let's get into it.

Trending or ending.

It's really easy to start going down and path and saying this happened twice, therefore this is gonna happen again after week one. Last week, remember we talked about some things to not overreact to. So one of those things we brought up was t Higgins. He was fine, He was totally fine. Uh, justin Fields was something you brought up last week, Bets and the panic alarms. But you brought this up, Mike two on a show that hey, Justin Fields looked like doodoo through the first four or five weeks last year and was totally fine for fantasy. Now NFL football might be different. And then Jason actually brought up Jordan Love to kind of wait and see, and although the touchdown numbers are there, he looked like a dumb dumb especially on that snap.

Let's say we are we're still waiting the regression regression to the mean it will happen to him for passing touchdowns.

Bets, I will let you start us off on something that you we can talk about. Is it trending or ending?

Yeah, I feel like you've been a little negative to start today, so let's get a little positive. The Anthony richardson rushing, Oh my goodness, if this continues, he might break fantasy in Week one ten carries forty yards one touchdown, but like if you dive in a little deeper to that, he led all quarterbacks in design rush attempts. And Shane Steiken has this dude out there who completed what like just under fifty five percent of his passes in Florida, running as a top five pace and top five pass rate in neutral situations. In week one he fully unleashed him, and then in week two. It's a limited sample, right, because he didn't get the whole game. He went into concussion protocol. But in eighteen snaps, three carries, all those were designed, thirty five yards, two scores. The seventeen game pace is kind of hilarious because it's extrapolating a game and a half, not even but one hundred and ten attempts on the season, over six hundred yards and twenty five touchdowns. Rushing of course, obviously that will not have happen, but the design rush attempts are there, and if he is going to use him this way, Shane Siken, you know for the next three years, four years, with how young he is, how explosive he is, how athletic he is, I feel like, you know, in the offseason, we all saw that this could be in the range vacuums. But now that we're seeing it, I guess from a dynasty perspective, it's like, does he slide up a tier? Does he slide up two tiers in dynasty rankings if you look forward to next year. So give me your thoughts on on Anthony Richardson. Is it here to stay this massive Russian production.

I'll jump in. Yeah, I think you need to react immediately to this. Not that anyone who drafted Richardson is now going to trade him. I mean the Drafters were the truthers and they are being rewarded handsomely through two weeks of the season. So yes, he will immediately leap up a tier. But the question I have, and maybe I'm just getting too far out in front of my skates, You've played Richardson two weeks. Richardson has gotten hurt twice. Like, if you're the head coach of this team, do you have any concerns about that. I know that week one it was a knee or but nothing bad. They said, oh, he could have gone back in the game. Yeah, but he didn't. Like, he did not go back in the game, and then he gets concussed in week two. I don't know. I feel like you're going to have a talk to Richardson about making certain decisions with how you play it. Maybe he goes to the rest of the of the year running wild like a lion and doesn't face any more injuries. But I'm just telling you, like, if I'm the coach of this team and my guy has now been knocked out two of two times. There's at least a little bit of concern inside.

Yeah, it's worth bringing up his touchdown run again the Texans, like he was Indian Zone and then he kind of got tackled and thrown down. So that one's just kind of unfortunate because like, the dude was clearly scoring and then got tackled. But when you say bets, he goes up a tier. I want to put that to the test because I went back and looked at our rankings and looked at a show that we did Dynasty Quarterbacks super Flex Tier. So we just talked about, hey, these are where these guys are. So we had Mahomes and Allen and Hertz is kind of that top tier, and then we had the guys who all got contract extensions, right Burrow, Lamar Jackson, Justin Herbert, and we put Trevor Lawrence in that group. And then the.

Next tier Yeah not I didn't.

The next tier was Justin Fields and Kyler Murray and Anthony Richardson and Tua. Like that's where we're at, So would you put him above that group? I know we're just two weeks in. We have to make calls of saying, this is just what I believe for my own team. But I'm assuming we would say he's moving in a better than fields.

He's definitely moving in a better direction in the fields. And the more important thing to me is his passing success. I mean he I mean, I'll pull it up, but I think he's completed sixty five percent of his passes. Yeah, sixty five week one, sixty percent Week two, only six to ten, But the point being that is so much better than he was in college, Like if you're that was the huge question with Anthony Richardson was will the passing develop over time to the to the point where he is a true franchise quarterback. Small, super small sample, but the fact that Week one they let him rip it thirty seven times wasn't huge production, you know, only six yards per attempt on those, but making good decisions and if that continues to evolve, plus the running, I would I would immediately move him up into that into that next tier that we had. I'm not gonna put him in the elite tier yet. It's only two games, but I'm willing to move him up already.

That's that's a really fair assessment because he's been way more accurate on the short stuff, which is what he wasn't good at in college. Yeah, where like you would see him with these screen pass he'd be like, dude, you're throwing that one hundred miles an hour.

Dude stiking, yes, stiking, like look at, look at Jalen Hurts. He just he still had a huge Fantasy Week two. But he played like doo dooo in Week two aside from a couple of big Davonta Smith catches, And it will not take Philadelphia fans very long of some more subpart Jalen Hurts playing before. They are very very angry in the streets that they let stike and go. Well not they could have. You couldn't have stopped him because he's a head coach. But saying, oh crap, this this was more impactful than even we thought.

Yep, let me let me give you a couple more numbers because so far in anthey interested. In two games, we have seen exactly dropbacks and he's yet to throw it twenty plus air yards. Yeah, not one, not one attempt. But he's been slaying in the short area. So I think you're right we need to pause on like who he is as a passer, but if he does this, if he runs like this, like BET's mentioned, we talked about his range of outcomes. If you run eighty times in a season, you're a top ten quarterback in terms of points per game. That's just what we've seen historically. So I he's someone I feel. So I took him at the one h two in a superflex in a rebuild. I can chill, I can wait, and I'm rebuilding, and he's someone's like okay for a fantasy I feel comfortable. And if my team stinks even more than I get Caleb Williams and I get two quarterbacks to figure it out. So love it, Mike, You're up next.

All right. So one of the things that I want to talk about. I want to is what's going on with Nico Collins, Like, what's what's happening here? Is this for real? Because it is it's year three for Nico. We have him. He's at twenty four and a half years old. He was a third round pick, so the draft capital is there, the frame is there. He's six four two fifteen, so he's he's big boy team tall, thick wide receiver, and he had always given us flashes Like Nico Collins was someone over the past few years on on the Footballers who he would pop up every year on the Waiver Show of like, well look what Nico did is this? Is this interesting to you? Do you think he can continue doing it? And it would always be sporadic, it was nothing was ever consistent with him. But where are we now, Like did he in fact level up week one six for eighty this past week seven for one forty six a tuddy C J. Stroud looks like he's going to be competent enough to feed Nico Collins the ball actcurate Lee. I mean that was he caught seven of nine targets for one hundred and forty six yards, So I mean the Nico Collins this is not cheap and dirty, low level PPR stuff right next to the line of scrimmage. No, these are these are big boy targets getting down the field and they're gonna be in negative game scripts like we highlighted, they're going to have to throw it a whole bunch to try to win. So are we in a place where Nico Collins we're looking at this was a year three breakout that that's some people, Uh, like over the over the offseason, I saw some some people talking about it. Uh, you know, good friend of the Footballs Matt Harmon, Nico Collins is one of his guys, and he's looking very very correct on him right now. So where are you guys with Nico right now? Is this just a two week mirage or is he c J. Stroud's guy.

It's tough depending on the format. So in a half point league, I think he can continue to be a consistent performer. I don't know if he's gonna be able to sustain six seven receptions every single game if there's any close gamescript, but I love the way they're using him. But like before, I kind of thought he's just a big dude. They're just gonna throw somen test to catches like he's a wanna be Mike Williams or something. But the way they're using him is in the middle of the field, these intermediate targets, which is so different than how he's used his first two years with you know, Davis Mills and people. So I think one of the reasons we love Stroud so much, I think all three of us did, is because he's slayed in the intermediate area. At Ohio State. It was just like, Oh, if you can hit those kind of throws, you know, ten to nineteen yards somewhere in the middle of field, like, you can be good. And that's what he's doing. So in that sense, they're using him in a way that works. I just have an issue when I look at the body of just him overall. Guys, did you know he had one top twenty four game in his career before this year.

Yeah, makes sense, sounds about right.

So I think depending on where he is on your roster, you can capitalize because because you know, going in the season, no one was counting on Nico Collins to be a contributor in dynasty. So I'm seeing some people say that they are willing to flip him. I don't know, bets, like, do you think that he's one of those players too. It's like two weeks in everyone said this is what the Texans offense is and things can change the NFL in a second.

Yeah, for sure. I think the production is probably a little bloated right now, just given like you said, kind of they've been behind so much so early in the games that they just have had to abandon the running game and let's drop back a ton that said, I do think this is real, Like I think in Nico Collins is quietly like a pretty good player. We talked about him this summer. I can't remember what show it was. I mentioned, like the underlying metrics, do say he's gotten Oh he wasn't an asty boy. Should have made him anasty boy. He was getting better. His targets threat run improved from year one to year two. Your yards threaut run and improved from year one to year two. And that was playing next to Brandon Cooks, who's always been a pretty good target earner. So it was like, okay, like I could see the path and you mentioned the CJT thing. What if cid strous is really good? Remember Nico Collins has caught passes from Kyle Allen, Davis Mills, whoever else not good? Right, Like, we're finally getting a chance to see him with a competent quarterback and some guys just take a little bit longer to develop in the NFL, and that's kind of what we're seeing from Nico. So no, I don't think you're getting ten targets a game every single game, but he is their wide receiver one, and you know, I think the John Metchi thing. Unfortunately, the ship may have sailed. Like if Nico keeps playing very well, Tank Dell keeps playing very well, Robert Woods has like the financial commitment from the team, It's hard for John Mechi to kind of sneak his way in there for playing time. I know, by the way, Noah Brown, right, who's out for four games. But yeah, I think Nico Collins is the dude. I buy that he's a good player. I'm just not sure I buy that we're gonna get. Like I said, ten targets a game, six catches, that kind of thing. But as a wide receiver three for your Dynasty team totally in.

I'm just also happy that Tank Dell is a thing already. I think he is.

I think he is too. It's if it was pretty lonely there on as the I feel like me and Kyle were the only Tank Dell supporters I knew of uh personally. Of course online people like him, but it was like the he's so small, how does it happen? How can he be just? But because the dude balls out.

Man, he's good, He's really good.

Let me gauge real quick with Nico Collins we drive Nico Collins are Romeo Dobbs in Dynasty.

Oh, I would take Nico personally.

I have Romeo Dobbs and I would trade him for Nico. Okay, if I could, let.

Me give you another name, Nico Collins or Rashad Bateman?

Oh?

Why what are you just going off on my roster? Kyle Twist and the knife?

Probably it's probably it's probably Nico, But I think that there's still time for something good to happen to Bateman.

I was gonna say, we don't want to overlook the Bateman situation, right because it's predictable that he's starting slow with the injury situation. He has a former first round talent. We can't forget that. We also really haven't seen like the Ravens passing offense unleashed, so it's it's tough. I think it's a coin flip. I lean Nico, but I wouldn't hate anyone for wanting Bateman over Collins.

Did you guys see I can't recall who was talking about it, but they were reporting on week one of because like Lamar, didn't you know, run the way that we are used to seeing him run? And they said, no, that they specifically wanted to try and do that, like they wanted to see what can Lamar Jackson do from the pocket, trying to like build up those reps, get that muscle memory, and and get those skills firmly entrenched and then get back to the running. Because I mean, if if they can do both, they'll be an unstoppable offense. So I thought it was an inch note that week one when we're all shouting at Lamarta scramble and because I think his instructions were, no, try try to be in the pocket, because and that game, if you recall against the Texans week one, it was like, what's happening with the Ravens? How is this a closed game? And then ah no, they blew the door open on the second half because they were like, Okay, let's we can move away from this. Now we'll get back to it.

I'm going to bring up a trending or ending topic and it's Brock Purty and I I'm not gonna lie. I've kind of just avoided thinking about Brock Party as a former hy Yeah.

I don't know, I just uh not Lance related.

No, I just wanted to block it out of my mind, you know, just to keep things cool. So Brock Purty in nine games with Christian McCaffrey, the team's average thirty two points. So you can't deny that this team and Kyle Shannon knows what they're doing. Through two weeks, he is fourth in quarterback efficiency so far expected points added per play, which if you look at this top ten list. Guy, Yes, the NFL is very different than we thought it would be in twenty twenty three in terms of quarterback play and who's leading. So Jordan loves number one in the league expected points per play, brock Purty's four, Jimmy G's five, Russell.

Willson, Well, hold on, boy, just gip number three?

Oh yeah, Deck Dak's three.

I just was den right, all right, sorry go Wake continued selective with his analysis.

Baker Mayfield, Yeah, I just want to throw out all the all the weirdo names, but rock Party for fantasy. I want to I want to make sure that conversation is about fantasy and what he means for dynasty, because it's easy to come on here and say, man, if you held on a Rock Party in a super Flex league, you feel so good about him as a as a QB two like that feels safe, feels good. You can lock that in whatever. There were some things in this last game against the Rams where he just flat out miss throws and he came out and said that those are on me. I've got to hit them in stride like there's a brand and I you touchdown that should have happened and it was just gone. So I wanted to kind of feel out like with brock Purty, things are trending in the right direction. They're playing the Giants on Thursday night. They should destroy again. But is he a good fantasy quarterback? So far in two games, just sixteen point eight points and fourteen point seven and they scored thirty points as a team. So is brock Purty good for fantasy? Is my question.

I think the way you framed it with the QB two in superflex is perfect. Like he is. He just feels so rock solid for illegitimate floor every single week with this offense, it's it's almost impossible to fail. And I don't want to say that, but it's very hard to fail when you have a good play caller who look, we have a huge sample of whoever the quarterback is plays very well in this offense when you've got Iyuk, who I think is a star. Deebo is incredible, Christian McCaffrey is incredible. Kittle is a major weapon when he gets the ball in his hands, so it is hard to fail as as a team on offense. And he's kind of perfect, honestly for what Kyle Shanahan wants, like, get the ball out on time, deliver it to the guys, let them go after the catch. That's what he does. Is that gonna result in a huge fantasy performance most weeks? Probably not? But will it be serviceable for you know, high end QB two numbers a lot of the weeks. I think so.

So.

Yeah, I think he's a perfect QB two in super flex leagues. I certainly don't want him as my QB one obviously he's not gonna run the way we want and that sort of thing. But yeah, with the weapons he has, I love him as a KB two. In Dynasty, he's Jimmy Garoppolo like he is.

He is literally it, and I look, he's not exactly Garoppolo, but I'm saying for fantasy purposes, we had Garoppolo and San Francisco had basically two full seasons really just the one but twenty nineteen sixteen games of Jimmy Garoppolo quarterback fourteen, twenty twenty one, fifteen games of Jimmy Garoppolo the quarterback seventeen. I I wager you give him one more game, he would have ended up right about the quarterback fourteen. So really solid for a quarterback too, And I think that that he would have his place in single quarterback leagues because sometimes when you're you're streaming the position, you are accepting a huge amount of risk because like this particular week, Baker Mayfield is a looks like a really strong streamer. You know, he's playing well, he's at home Philadelphia Secondary is banged up. He's widely available in leagues because people don't want Baker Mayfield. But part of that is you're saying, I'm going after the ceiling, and I accept that the floor is potentially catastrophic if I'm going to stream Baker Mayfield. Sometimes you just want to stream a guy who's going to give you two hundred and two and I know that that party did not hit the two types. Mark uh this this past week, which I think he had, I'm pretty sure was that two passing touchdowns minimum for each one of his starts before then right, and he and he just missed. He missed on a couple throws that brock Perty has been hitting on. So I think that there is a place sometimes you look at your matchup and you go, I just need my quarterback to just deuce. I don't need to explode the ceiling with this quarterback. I'm gonna go with Party this time. So I think the answer is is he good for fantasy? Yeah? He is, but he's not a superstar and it's hard to see him ever becoming a superstar.

It's wild looking at what he is so far. Like so he's the QB nineteen so far, and like he's behind Justin Fields, who feels like a colossal failure, but he's behind him. So that's kind of what he is. It's I was trying to like find a comparison, and Mike, you gave Jimmy Garoppolo like over the last like ten years, Like who is the quarterback for a team that scores thirty plus points a game? But their quarter actually isn't that great for fantasy? Because I think if Party's the guy, let's say over the next three, four or five whatever years, he's gonna have to have an outlier thirty touchdown season because he doesn't run as much as you want and the volume is really low. So that's the only thing that I would just pause. Like, the success of the team is going to be good, but for him, you need an outlier thirty touchdown season. It's possible, like if he if he keeps hitting that to a game, he can do it.

But it's like also like Rams Jared Goff, Yeah, like which Jared Goff had a thirty two touchdown year and that that was the year he was the quarterback six Other than that he was QB thirteen thirteen eighteen.

Yeah, all right, we're gonna take one more break and we'll be right back. All right, we're back. A couple more trending or ending dynasty thoughts bets hit us.

Oh no, this is not good. This is not good. To quote the Great Mike Right on episode twenty three of the Fantasy Footballers Dynasty podcasts, Yeah screw them, RBI's man. Yeah, I mean yeah. The inefficient running back play across the league has been so tough to watch. We talked about Damian Perris at the top of the show. I want to highlight a few guys and I'm not trying to cherry pick names, but like these are kind of just the guys in my head when I think about what has gone on for the first couple of weeks. This is who has stuck out Josh Jacops one point six yards per Kerrey. Nineteen out of twenty eight of his attempts have gone for two or fewer yards. He has long of seven runs seven yards. Naji Harris. The efficiency numbers, when you look at you yards per Carrey, you're like, oh, okay, over four, like that's pretty good, But it literally is because he's ripping off like one twelve yard run per game. He's getting stuffed to the line every time he touches the ball. Jalen Warren is so much better for this offense than Naji hair. Alexander Madison we eve been talking about like he kind of feels maybe like a classic dead zone back, but the opportunity is there. He hasn't been great. He's gotten stuffed to bunch. No for missed force tackles so far, no runs of ten plus yards. It's been very man for Madison, not even on the dock. But Ramandri Stevenson has really struggled running the ball. So I guess I don't know where I want this conversation to go. But of these guys kind of in this group, like, are there guys that you're hitting the panicle arm button on that you're like, Okay, I need to get off this guy off my roster if I can get a good price for him. Are there guys that you're willing to practice patients with just your guy's temperature? On the names that I mentioned, With these inefficient running backs.

I'll jump in. I mean, Naji is the most troubling because this is now we're this is year three of Nagy. Year three. Yeah, so year one was great because of volume, because Big Ben his tendency was he he throws the ball to the running back and gets out of the play, and he volumed his way to being a really good fantasy football player. That goes away the very next year with Trubisky and Kenny Pickett and the inefficiencies Gill, they mount and now it's looking even worse. So and on top of that, Jalen Warren, I think that was the way to phrase at Bets is he is he seems like he's so much better for this offense, like these running backs need a certain type of a certain type of offense, and then he's a certain type of offensive line like the the offensive line is not helping Naji Harris. It is certainly not helping Alexander Madison. And Madison is not a player who's going to beat you with speed to the side. He's going to He's going to bully you up the middle. And that's what Najie Harris has to do. And that's I mean Joe Rush Jacobs is he has speed, but he also I don't know how much I talked about it on this show, but I mentioned it in The Footballers of like, do you guys have any concerns the fact that he is holding out all of training camp and all of the preseason. And I had said, I don't have the data in front of me, but I just anecdotally when I look back in my memory, when guys skip the entirety of the preseason, it usually takes them a while to actually get back into football shape because you have to get your body used to so many different things, including having two hundred and fifty pound guys crush into you, you know, multiple times a week. So Nag he's the most concerning Madison. The concern for on the Madison side is more of it. I don't know if it's chicken or egg. Is it they're not running because they're inefficient running the ball, or is it because they're just so good at passing the ball. Like the Vikings through two weeks, are the team passing the most in a neutral game situation that I think it was like seventy percent, which is that's wild. I mean, those are huge, juicy numbers that if you got Jefferson or Addison be very very excited about it. So again, I don't know if they're going with that because Madison's not getting the job done, or is Madison not getting the job done because he's not getting enough opportunity and the offensive line is not getting into a flow. Better days are ahead for Madison. He's got the Chargers and the Panthers coming up next. So if you're trying to bail out of him in a dynasty situation, I would gamble and risk that the next two games are gonna be much better for him, at least in terms of fantasy output. Najio good luck. Good luck trading Naji Harris for anything that represents the value that he could actually bring you over the course of the season.

Yeah, that's my main thing is these guys are not going to fetch you anything that you need for your roster, when all we've seen so far is that running back is just if you have them, you need to survive. You just need to survive and be able to find players that you can get in. So I agree with Mattison. I think he's fine snaps wise, totally fine. Inefficiency. I've never I don't think any of us said, hey, he's going to be a super efficient back. It's more of a voting play. Yeah, I'm fine with that. Josh Jacobs It, Mike, you might be onto something about just like he's missed time with a new quarterback that he's never played with before right before the season. They're asking him to pass, block more, and he's on the field for less past snaps. So that's a terrible combination for a player. Even though he saw six targets this past week. It's like, you need pure opportunities. They got boat raced at, you know, in the second half where it's just like that game wasn't even close. They weren't going to run the ball so the inefficiencies are super bad. But I think Josh because it's going to be fine, Like he doesn't look slow, like in terms of like cuts and everything. He did change his number, so maybe that's part of it. Like when I look at.

Him, these guys change their numbers all the time.

Come on, I well, it's like when you're out there, you're number eight, Like, okay, you were that in college, but like twenty eight is what you dominated for my team last year.

So maybe that's just it's it's very funny, like this is this is not a fantasy conversation, but it's a fun side one of I get it. You as a player, you should be able to you should be able to wear with the number that you want to wear, but like realize that you build up brand equity with that number. Like there's there's a reason that why when players get traded or move to other teams and they're players of note, they go to the player who's on that current team and then they do some sort of exchange of value to get their number back. Because that's that's my identity to to my fans around the league. So I don't I'm not sure this Maybe it sounds really old managed. I don't know what the Zoomers think of this, but like, don't don't keep changing your numbers so much if you change teams and you need to change number. Okay, I get it, but like your number is part of who you are, who you are as a player, and I like to have, you know, I like to have the the foundation of you being the same number. I know what I'm looking for, I know what to expect because that's that's who I'm cheering for. Yeah, I get it.

Those things with Jacobs two is not just remember the the offseason missed time, but he saw a massive jump in workload last year, which is why he was going in like round eight of.

The draft leagues or whatever.

He saw so much more work than anyone was expecting. And historically those guys do have a down year efficiency wise the next year. So there's a couple things working against Jacobs. But I'm with you in that I do think better days are ahead, and they have shown not much willingness to give anyone else work, So better days are ahead, I think for Jacobs might just take a lot of time.

All right, Mike, why don't you hit us with the current tight end?

Two?

In fantasy, just like we all predicted.

All right, my trends. The first one is is this Nico Collins? Is this for real? And this question is for Hunter Henry. Is this for real? He was the tight end one in week one, tight end two in week two. He's run the second most routes of the tight end position. Mike Gasicki is not factoring into the offensive planing at all. This new New England pass offense the second most dropbacks in the NFL, and I got a very surprising number. Boys, Hunter Henry through two weeks has thirty four percent of the fantasy points that he scored last year. Like, I mean, what is happening here with that? That's what I mean? Is this for real? It's all Hunter Henry. I think he is among the most frustrating fantasy football careers because when he came into the league, he was a Round two pick back in twenty sixteen for the Chargers, puts up almost five hundred and eight and it was here we go, baby, like this is the next superstar fantasy tight end. And he sort of improved at least in tight end ranking over the next couple of years, but then it just really plateaued and you never saw him surpass six hundred and fifty yards. He did hit the nine touchdowns his first year with New England, but he only had six hundred yards, And it was why do teams keep not using him as a focal point where when we're what the casual fans watching going, Hunter Henry looks like he could be a Travis Kelcey type of player, should he be given the correct situation and through two weeks, do we have the correct situation here for Hunter Henry to truly thrive and finally give us a top five tight end season.

It's it's a great question because what you're looking at is somebody who's about to be twenty nine in a contract year. And I don't think any of us one saw this coming. But we didn't know because the offense last year was just duty.

I mean they thirty four already.

Man, they didn't use him in the red zone, where that's like been his mo in his career. Like even when he was with the Chargers, he would have games You're like, this guy can dominate in the red zone, Like he'd have multi touchdown games. So I like where he's at in terms of just the age cycle. We talk about this a lot in Dynasty, but tight ends tend to last a little bit longer. See Travis Kelce, where his age doesn't scare me off in a league, his contract in the future does make things kind of up in the air. But like, if he's on your roster, you're super thankful. He's somebody that I wouldn't mind trading for. Yeah, there's a question if your tight end room is just dodo. I mean, let's just say for this year. Okay, so Dynasty it's a different question, But for this year, would rather have Kyle Pits or Hunter?

Henry Hunter?

And my gosh, Kyle, why don't do that to us?

Yeah? We need, we need, we need to have a banishment.

Hey, ask ask somebody in this group if they traded for Kyle Pitts today.

I actually didn't. Actually it was what I couldn't. I could not do it. It was Luke Muskra even a second for Kyle Pitts and I all, I have my finger over the button to accept I would do that, and I did not do it. I'm not sure if I will by the end of the week, but I just we don't have to go to Kyle Pitts.

We know the situation.

But I think Hunter Henriette scores in this year. I mean, that's not that good, but I just think that's the reality of the situation.

He might not score him if he never plays the rest of the year.

I was just gonna say, if we shut Henry down for the year, does Kyle Pitts catch him? Oh my gosh.

But I think the Henry Hunter Henry thing is sort of here to stay. And I don't know he's gonna be the tight end one and two every week. Of course, Travis Cussey will get healthy, Mark Andrews will get healthy, you know whatever. But like the Patriots do not have skilled pass catchers. You don't have currently they don't. They have no juice, they have no downfield threat. They Kendrick Bourne is like an every down player, juju is whatever. I don't know why they let you Kobe Meyers walk. That's another conversation for another day. And fantasy tight ends come from situations where they can operate as the first or second option. There's like no target competition for Hunter Henry. So are there gonna be weeks where he has like four catches for forty yards?

Yeah?

Of course, every tight end does. But I think the usage is here to stay.

If you are a tender and let's just say your tight end room is just booty do would you rather have Hunter Henry or a second round pick?

Oh, Henry?

Okay, if you're contending, give me Hunt.

Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Okay, So let's kind of move it. Would you rather have Hunter Henry or Chig in Dynasty Henry?

I am a sucker and I will still take Chig.

I think it just depends on the whe where your team is at, because if your team's not competing, then you can.

I thought this was all like contending team.

Well I'm just saying like that's kind of where this conversation is. Is like if you want to go in on a player that we know like so far as, like, okay, he has a role in this offense. He's running forty three routes a game that's insane, Like that's Kyle Pitts would dream of that. He would love that. So instead of waiting around, make a bold move for a player. Now I don't now, I think a first round pick is probably too much.

That's too much.

They don't do that, Okay, So it's it's gonna cost you something because the manager who has him says like, hey, I can hold onto this guy and see where this goes. Or if you need a tight and you can do it, so you might have to give up a wide receiver that has promised but hasn't shown it yet. So I'm just gonna throw out a name. Would you rather have if you're a contender and you're night starting this player, would you rather have Hunter Henry for this year or trailing Burks?

I would still take Burks.

I would still take Burks.

Okay, I lean that way, But I I'm we're getting to the point where there's potential in Dynasty of what this player can be to I need this on my roster. I need a player. So I don't fault anyone for finding a wide receiver who's two or three years in that you're still waiting Nico Collins, Nico Collins or Hunter Henry.

If you need a tight end Niko Niko. Still, yeah, I think I'd take my chance with Nico. Two to two?

Are Hunter Henry, Hunter Henry Henry Cups coming back? Okay, Okay, we're there is he maybe hopefully? Oh Man speaking into existence, Mike, I love so.

Many Puka offers so like just the wildest, wildest things right now for Puka in leagues. So I want to give one more trending or ending right here, and it's just to prop up our boy, Ceedee Lamb and Mike the only.

Good guys, my super team, uh not so super, not so super when it is, Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase are the the true foundation of the team. Ceede Lamb was just like it's supposed to be the cherry My Mike, Garrett Wilson, Jamar Chase, Ceedee Lamb team about dead lasting points scored and Nase and Nause and ken Walker and Burrow.

Your team is the least efficient team in the history of a.

Point dude, it's just tough yards. So set the tone.

I want to prop up to you. By the way, in that league that Mike has started off zero to two despite his super team. You know that Jeremy and I are two to ozer despite having the worst team.

In the league. Yep, yeah, yeah, because that's that's how that.

League goes for me, man, Okay, So Ceedee Lamb, I just want to highlight that he's a dominator, that he's awesome. Last week he was on the field, running routes thirty six times, targeted thirteen times, he had fifty five of the team's air yards, and he killed zone coverage. He was awesome for the year. This is courtesy of Marcus Mosher. He's averaging twelve point nine to four yards per target, like, he's off the charts, and I think, I think we're getting him in his fully evolved form. And to use a Pokemon reference because his real name is Sidarian, which sounds just like a Pokemon Sidarian Lamb. Guys, since Dakus got return remember he was hurt at the beginning of last year. When he returned in Week seven, since then, Ceedee Lamb has averaged seven receptions for ninety yards a game like that's alpha stuff, and I think what we're getting this is kind of what I had to compare it to. I think he's prime DeAndre Hopkins. I think that's what he is. Similar body types, kind of thinner, and you're about to see a run where he's going to be in the top ten of Dynasty wide receivers for at least six years. That's what Hopkins was. Lamb's been doing it for three years and all I wanted to do was just kind of assess with Ceedee Lamb, where does he rank in terms of Dynasty wide receiver tiars. We did a show back in July that was, Hey, it's Jefferson and Chase, pick your poison whoever you want, and then we talked about the other tiers.

Oh, pick Jefferson.

Yeah, I didn't say on this podcast like, hey, pick Chase. I didn't say that at all. Would you put Ceedee Lamb comfortably as the wide receiver three in Dynasty?

Man, you have to give me some other names around that.

I'll give you the other names, because this is what we this is what we had back in July without a time information. We had a j Brown, Garrett Wilson, and Ceedee Lamb kind of is the next tier? Would you put him above those guys?

I'll I mean, you have to put them above Garrett. Now, I wasn't here for the Garrett Wilson reaction show, so that my quick take on Garrett Wilson for Dynasty is the saddest of sad that I could possibly be so unbelievably sad. I know Rogers is saying I'm going to make a comeback. I'm gonna be ready and hopefully in time for the playoffs, which your team is not going to make the playoffs? And is Roger is Rogers ever back? Like is I mean, I don't know, I don't know if Betsy, if we've do we have any quarterback Achilles data? Not really?

The good news is though, is like, I mean, the bad news is he's older, which always works against UH players coming back from a major injury. But the good news is he's He's not really a running quarterback anyway, or never has been, especially now, So like, can he recover from the injury and then drop back in the pocket and deliver a quick slant to Garrett Wilson over and over and over and over again. Yes, Okay, I do think he actually wants to come back for one more run next year, So silver aligning, I guess. But yeah, it's a complete bummer. But based off what you were hoping to get this year, the super super set.

The only quarterback that comes to mind that got an Achilles chair was also a Jet's quarterback, your boy Vinny Testa Verdi and Old Testy.

So that's a deep cut. And I mean, as his teammates most certainly called him many tea I don't know if you realize what you were walking into. Oh many t yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's that's all I will. Man, It's the AJ Brown question in which week one wasn't terrible, Week two was, but there was also a touchdown reception called back on a holding call. I'm not gonna let two, oh am. I now, I'll keep AJ Brown in front of him, but easily moves past Garrett Wilson. So four four, with the potential that he could jump to number three, but I don't know, and if he keeps I mean, the numbers you laid out here, Kyle are absolutely ridiculous. If you do that for an entire year and then the rumor mill starts to come true of Dak Prescott gets his extension to be the long term solution for him, and then you have those two guys together, then then I would have no problem keep moving them up to three. That's fine, Okay.

So I think I lean CD personally just as use age as a tiebreaker, right, I mean CD's twenty four a J. Brown's twenty six. It doesn't really matter because they're both in the prime of their career. But if you are something likes to play long term. CD obviously younger, and he does not have a Devata Smith on the other field, on other side of the field. To take away targets, he's he's the dude.

Yeah, when we did this show, we had DeVonta Smith in our top ten. But I think just from just from vibes alone, he feels like he's kind of risen in people's mind. That's like, okay, well he can be in Alpha. So keep in mind with with the top ten dynasty wide receivers, we're splitting hairs, guys. We're like, all these players are great, we love them. I mean, Chris o'lave, if you want to put in the top five, I would love that. I think that would just be the best. So keep uh, keep CD land in mind. I think like when we think about the top tier, he doesn't immediately come to mind, but like I think we could be talking about him as in being untouchable like in just a year where I don't know if CD CD I mean Olave is already there in my mind, but that's just me. So uh, that's gonna do it for this episode of again and talk about trending or ending topics. Next week we'll get to follow up talk about all of the Week three happenings, everything that's going on.

Hope you guys have a.

Great week, do your thing out in the dynasty streets.

That's all right, ending now, all right, goodbye everybody.

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