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Welcome to the Fantasy Footballer's Dynasty Podcast with Borg Bets and a baller.
Welcome back. It's Wednesday, December fourth. Here on a Fantas Footballers Dynasty podcast. I'm your host, Kyle Organoni, and I'm joined by Matthew Betts and Jason Moore.
Back Nay, I don't know if it's because I'm tired right now. I know I am tired right now, but I feel like you really brought the energy there, Kyle, like you you got some pep in your staff. Either I'm tired or you are peppy.
I mean, if I know, if I like, I think I did. He's had at least three cups of tea at this point in the day, so he's ready to go.
Are you British, Kyle?
I am. I'm in the mood where I need the tea to keep me going. It's not it's not caffeinated, but I think this is a way.
It's caffeinated. But it's hot deep, it's hot. Okay, Hey, I have in my mug here a glass of water, but it is hot, So I get it. I get it. This is just maybe I should throw some tea in here.
Of all the sponsors, we've had over the years, and and trust me, there's been lots of them, including what was it last week we're talking about trains and yeah, yeah, yeah, it's great, great stuff. We've never had one for hot tea. And I'm pretty sure that Mike every single episode has a throat coat. I usually have one every episode. Bets. We were just talking before little Nighty Night tea before he goes to sleep. I mean, this is this is where we're at at our age, Jason. So I don't I don't know if.
You guys, I got to get into tea. I am trying to plan next year my family first ever European vacation, which, first of all, that's a nightmare to plan. But everything that I'm seeing is like you have to start the days with t TA and crumpets. I don't know, you.
Better start now, man.
You can do the market research for us, Jason, Like, that's why we're sending you over there.
Yeah, is to prepare tea research.
Yeah, and we've we've talked a lot about high T, low T, stuck about regular tea. On this episode, we will do a weekly rewind talk about some players that we watched on film, including some players that most of you did not even know existed in the NFL. Jason's got a couple, got a fun one in there, and then we're gonna play a little game, and I'm going to these gentlemen have no idea, no clue what I prepared for them. But I also think for listeners and people that are watching on YouTube, it's a good chance to kind of get in the mode of figuring out players and how much they're worth, and how much we put on draft capital and age. And then when you start unveiling the story, it starts to kind of paint a picture of Okay, this is where this player is valued at. And Guys, the players I've chosen for you today, a couple of them are your personal favorites. I'm just gonna throw that out there. People that are near and dear to your hearts.
Okay, who you think that is a monster.
I just know that you guys are an emotional bunch. You care deeply. I know Jason, he plays, he plays fantasy football. His heart's out there. He's willing to share it and willing to get hurt. That's what I like about you, Jason. You're willing to get hurt in this game.
I'm vulnerable to all sorts of emotional injuries.
Do you guys feel I mean, we're about at playoff point in dynasty leagues and redraft leagues, but I feel like this year has been an emotional rollercoaster of just what I want, what I thought would happened, and now we're just kind of at the point of like, did you just even survive? Like it wasn't even like what was the call? It was like, did you somehow make it through and not get completely obliterated by injuries?
This year has been I think my least fun year I can remember. It is brutal. You know, our main Dynasty league, there were I feel like three pretty super teams. You know that we're like, okay, one of these three is going to win the championship, and I was one of those. And now I am on the outside of the playoffs with one week to go, playing against Mike's super team that held up, and I don't think I'm gonna make the playoffs, which blows my mind. I mean, my run of injuries over the last couple of weeks has just I just I don't have players left, and it's insane that the team that I started the season with is not in the playoffs right now and probably won't make the playoffs. I'm having a hard time coping with that. So my answer is this year sucked.
I'm glad you fill the way, Jason. What's so funny? You know, Kyle and I be on like the DFS side of things two on a week to week basis. It's so funny how like each week there's like a new guy that's like the bill of the ball. You're Like, last week it was like David Moore is the play this week he's super cheap, He's the dude for the Panthers this week as Aasa grenda, right, Like these guys just kind of keep popping up, and it kind of tells you a lot about where we are in injuries in the NFL. So, yeah, man, it's been crazy. I feel like they got a lot of stuff wrong this year. And I don't even know if it was like bad calls from the beginning or just like the chaos of the season, Like this year feels like more chaos than usual. Although we probably say that every year, maybe we need to go back and look, but it's been a wild year for sure.
Yeah, I think we're jaded being in the middle of this and that the season is still going on. I do feel good. Jeremy and I's Dynasty team has just battled and battled and battled in the main league.
Where you're gonna make the playoffs.
We're right on the cusp.
You're certainly making it over me. Well, yeah, it's quite crazy, Kyle.
Why'd you say it like you don't want to be in the playoffs?
You want to be in the playoffs. I just know that where it's at with league meeting and everything, we still have a shot of not getting in. So I don't want to just say we're in and we don't get in and then we're sad about it. But we do hold a very high draft pick for next year that is someone else, So we feel feel pretty good about that. Let's move on.
Weekly Rewind.
Every week on the Dynasty podcast, we rewind the film and we do a deep dive on a player. Betts. I will let you go first, because I feel like we've been waiting and waiting and waiting, and maybe even on this show, we've talked about this player of eventually we'll see him hit the field, and at one point we said, this player will only increase in value. There's no way his value will go down, and yet it has.
Oh yeah, that's Jonathan Brooks you're talking about, who we finally got to see on an NFL field two weeks ago, huge asterix that was five total snap so not really this past week we saw him get up to twenty one percent of the snaps, six carries, three targets, and it's hard to have a lot of like concrete takeaways after just one NFL game as a change of pace back. But in the limited touches that he did have of foind it looked good, pretty decisive as a runner, really natural catching the ball out of the backfield, which goes back to his tape at Texas, So I was pretty encouraged by what he put on tape. Again, small sample size, but he definitely looks like he can play in the NFL. There was a carry that he had where he took it over to the left side of the line, ran over a defensive back, lowered the shoulder, and showed some power too, which really when you think about, like his game from Texas was kind of not what everybody talked about, Like it was more of the elusiveness the pass catching, but he definitely delivered the power there. So yeah, Jonathan Brook's obviously very exciting to see him on an NFL field. I think the snaps might continue to go up, which is pretty encouraging. Usually with the ACL recovery, it's kind of a four week process, so I still think he's going to be behind Cuba for most of the rest of this year. But could he work himself into you know, like a sixty to forty split by the time we get to the end of the season. I think get definitely possible. So I'm excited for Jonathan Brooks. Hopefully we get to see some more of him here over the next several weeks.
He was a player that I went didn't take a long time, but I went back and I watched every snap as well, because I just wanted to see. And this weekend I was not at the studio, so I didn't get to see quite as much live. I had to do a little bit more catch up, and I'm you know, they weren't showing a lot of the Carolina game where I got to see his snap. So I went back and I watched and I was thoroughly impressed because I looked at the stats, the box score, like, oh, so he's still doing nothing. But when I went back and watched the film, I was like, he looks good. He looks like exactly the player that we liked coming in that made him the first running back drafted. It'll be interesting to see where the split ends by the end of the season, but it was you know, he's capable. He's capable on the NFL field. We saw in those limited snaps where if Tuba goes down, I think you can be really confident that Brooks can step right in there and succeed.
I think it's just nice to see that Panthers being competitive in games and the stuff that we liked with Dave Canalis the year before and why he was such a big name this offseason. You're starting to see some of it come to fruition. I still think, like wide receiver wise, like they're just so far behind the rest of the league in terms of pure talent, but it's a competitive team. Hey, ninety nine yards was right there, Adam feeling the.
Fact that you even said that. Kyle Rook we talked about a little bit last year with Mike with like, hey, Bryce sung kind of looks good, you know recently, and everybody throws in the bucks, so I don't want to take too much from that. But another nice week from Bryce Young And like you said, he's throwing a David Moore at thirty nine or whatever. He is old Adam feeling and you know, a rookie in Exabriela get so. I mean, if you have Bryce Sung in Dynasty from where we were in week one, two three, like, you've got to be feeling way different than you do, you know, last time, this time, last year. So nice stuff from Bryce.
Yeah, yeah, you will get some cute be two weeks, which is a lot to say from where we were. Jason, you have another quarterback on here, and I don't know if you could find any kind words about.
Him at all. I can find some kind words, Kyle. I went back and I watched every pass attempt from Kirk Cousins off of his terrible performance four interceptions, picked sixes. I mean, he lost the game for the Falcons, and so I wanted to go back in and watch because Andy and Mike we're talking about how absolutely abysmal his play was, and so I went back. Try to be open minded. I want to know you know, he's a thirty six year old quarterback coming off of an achilles started. He looked good a couple of weeks ago. Now it's been a month of pretty poor play, and so I wanted to take a look specifically at why. And I think he is a very very good processor. He runs an offense incredibly well. He's got perfect touch on his passes. In a lot of the screen game, the hidden people in stride, you know, Bijon's going out for a little wheel, he could just dump it over really nice. All the short stuff still felt fantastic, It really did. But when he threw that ball twenty yards it better. The only time that it worked is when it's one of those like you snap the ball and then you pretty much almost immediately throw it, like you go deep, but you're not waiting for the play to develop. You're letting the You know that that can work, the timing can work everything else. When it was like a deep developing route and he had to get the ball fifteen year yards down the field over a defender, you know, while safeties are closing in. Like every normal play you've seen him make forever, that ball took forever to get there. It was like the last year of Peyton Manning where I don't know what happened with the arm strength or the body strength or what is going on, but it looks like he cannot throw deep with zip on the ball, and so that's I mean, that's just true. He wasn't So was that just an especially down game. He wasn't feeling good, Maybe he had the sniffles and was sick. Bets at his age coming off the Achilles injury, should we be worried that this is the new normal and that it won't Like, I'm just I guess the question we need to answer, because even though it's Dynasty and he's older, this is still a valuable player in fantasy, not just for him, but you know, for Mooney, for Bejon, for London. So I'm just curious. Is it more likely that he has you know, he's dealing with something and he's gonna get it back, or is this the new normal and he's got to figure out a way to adapt to being an old man?
So I think if I'm understanding your question correctly, like, is the arm strength and ability to deliver the ball downfield the new normal for him? Because of his Achilles. I think in part, I think it is, but not this bad, Like he should be getting stronger as the year goes on, not getting worse. And if you remember, like the first I don't know, three weeks of the year, like that was the conversation, it was like, oh, man, like you can't move the push offf really isn't there. And then you saw like I don't know, week five, I mean that was the Tampa game where he went nuts on that Thursday night game. Had some really nice weeks. There were games where he was averaging like nine yards per attempt, like really efficient, moving the ball well. And I don't know what happened the last three or four games, but he just looks like he did back in week one and two. So it's hard to read into how much that is the Achilles. How much of that is just naturally older quarterbacks fall off as they as even the great ones, you know, as they get older. Yeah, it's hard to know in my opinion medically, like he should be getting stronger on that Achilles as the year goes on, not getting worse, which is obviously a bit of a concern.
So that's what's so weird and funny about the Achilles, specifically the Achilles, because we saw cam Akers come back quick from an Achilles and then he looked good and then it fell off and got worse and then I think he got injured again. We saw JK. Dobbins come back from his Achilles and he looked really good and explosive for a couple of weeks and then fall off and trail off. And so it's like with I'm just starting to wonder, like is there something to this like Achilles, like you just you can peak, but then you can't keep it going. It's that's way too anecdotal. I don't think there's enough data evidence. But it's like you said, he should be getting stronger, it should be getting better at this point, and it's getting worse and it's tough to buy in and there's not a lot of weeks left to decide. You got to kind of call your shot and know what you're doing now.
Yeah, And it was it was weird too, like a couple of those throws, like I mean, off the top of my head. I don't know if it was the most egregious interception, but the one that he threw where he just like lollipopped it into the into the end zone with like four chargers guys there. It wasn't like he tried to drive the ball and couldn't. He just decided this is the throw I'm gonna make. So I don't know if it's decision making or what. Uh, it just he looks broken. I don't know.
With the velocity throws that you brought up. The person that's been in a decline has been Mooney, which usually is more down the field stuff stuff where he's actually using separation to get open. Like London kind of kept him in that game with a bunch of a bunch of throws where he's just bigger, and you know he only caught half of his sixteen targets or whatever. It's like even that was not good. But what's scary is they just came off the buy and you kind of saw this huge drop velossity where you think he'd be able to recover. But overall it was sad they played Minnesota this week. He cannot do anything outside the pocket, right, It's just like I drop, I throw, I get the ball out as fast as I can to my first read and that's literally it. And so you know, you look at some of these other teams, like, you can just do so many other things by getting someone to move in the pocket. Even Jamis, it's like he's gonna do whatever. Sometimes gonna be inaccurate, but at least he's moving around and Kirk just can't do that. So I'm worried about Mooney. That's the one I'm worried about. Rest of the season. Pits, we didn't even mention him because he doesn't exist to us anymore.
He's the Pits.
He's he's not great. You did want to give a brief little nod to Sincere McCormick.
Yeah, so I also went through it could because I'll be completely frank, I didn't know who it was. I never scouted him coming out of college, so I did not know who this player was who got the majority of the workload as a Raiders running back and being a Dynasty show. This is a player who's going to be on a lot of Dynasty waivers available to pick up. I wanted to know is he worth it? Is he gonna get more work? His college production was outstanding, but he was playing in a you know, a smaller division. But even still, you just you you like to see great collegiate production. Oh is that what their team was. So he's a shorter guy, but he doesn't seem small. He's built fiach and I guess my my takeaways after looking at at Sincere McCormick, which is quite the name, was he's he's just a guy, he's jag, he's just whatever. I mean. He had one nice cut and run to the outside where he beat defenders. And this was against a good Kansas City Chiefs team, Whereas like there was burst and speed that looked a little bit special on that play. So I was like, oh, okay, all right, I see some I see this. I see like he made the play happen, runs up to the middle, nothing was there, bounce it to the outside, beat the guys to the outside. Looked good, looked fast, looks strong. But then all the other players were just like, he gets whatever you give him. You know I was talking about I think I scouted Javonte earlier this year after his big game, and my takeaway was very similar, which was he's gonna get the yards that are given. But I didn't see anything special that like, he did not do anything special to have a good fantasy game. He just had his offensive line opening up holes better for him that game.
Yeah, I remember the name only because it was in our prospect group and then he was.
Undrafted sincere, Yeah, because.
You know, it's a sweet name, but it's another name that at the end of the day, it's the literally the worst possible landing spot of an offense that they're so bad at running the ball usually, and so maybe that's why it looked better than what everyone else has done. Zamir Madison Abdullah's you know is what he is. Louby, I just I just think at the end of the day, this offense is just so broken, this whole team is broken. I think my bigger question is how many games do Pierce have left? Are gonna let him finish?
I think they'll let him finish because I believe right now they have to be paying for like four coaches, and so they'll they'll be paying for a fifth. It's like every year they're just adding another coach to their uh their budget.
Yeah, I think it's I think it's be a clean sweep in Las Vegas.
Again, that's kind of like the Bears. They're paying for Waldron who was the OC and then Brown took over as the OC. But now he's the interim head coach. So this guy has vaulted from basically like back up, backup offensive play caller to head coach, and yet they're still paying for all these other dudes. Yeah, think about how much money every single year is lost and just head coaches and coaches moving on or being scapegoaded in some way. I want her to bring up Marv and oh yeah, I think Marvin Harrison Junior. I love the matchup, and Mike actually him as the start of the week. Him and I did a little bit of research of just the matchup and some of the end zone targets, and that's actually how he had his touchdown. So I felt really proud of like, man, this is a Marv week. I was in on a Marv week, but there's been a lot of weeks where it's not a Marv week. I watched the game back and my question in Jason you can probably speak into this. I feel like they just are trying to find the right balance of what's a scripted play and what's a Kyler I'm calling chaos play, where it's like, Okay, Kyler create and sometimes that's really fun and other times it's Kyler running around until he just kind of lollie pops it and throws it. And they had a pick at one point where he tries to throw it away. But Marv gets the designed plays like they were coming in a two minute drill, and he gets a target, he gets a crosser, he gets a go ball on the outside. The first play of the third quarter. It's Marv. So they get these scripted plays, but they're not always lay up stuff like Trade McBride gets these layup, chain moving plays. Is where Marv's are like, maybe this will work forty fifty percent of the time, but a lot of times they're just plays that just don't have a lot of high value of just reception. So my question is how much does Kyler's style affect Marv and affect him for fantasy and his development because it's erratic.
Yeah, it is. The connection between those two is not there yet. I believe a lot of it, if not the vast majority is on Marv. When I watched the film, I think that Marv is letting me down. However, I also think a lot of it is just a rookie being a rookie, Like we're so spoiled by Justin Jefferson's rookie season, and you know the first four weeks of Molak Neighbors where it seemed, you know, Jamar Chase, it's Marvin Harrison's having a good rookie year. We stupidly drafted him at the back of the first round in Fantasy, which we I mean, he was my official final bust pick, because that just seemed foolish going into the drafts. And you see it on a lot of these plays. They script him a lot, and yet the catch percentage is not there with Kyler, and a lot of that's on Marv. There was a play, really nice design, broke open. Kyler throws it over the right shoulder to the outside. Marv turns way too late and he turned to the left. He turned inside to look for the ball. That should have been a layup. There's another play, I think it was like two plays before that play, where another kind of outside route where you know, he turns around to catch the ball, but he doesn't come back to the ball. Kyler throws a little out to the right and the dB goes in and breaks it up, and so you think, like, oh, Kyler threw a bad ball. The dB was able to get there, but it was Marv's fault. Marv should have been coming back to the ball.
That's that's what I saw too.
Marv should have been coming back to the ball. The dB shouldn't have had the wide open angle to go after the ball because there should have been a Marv between the player and the ball. So when I look at those plays, the ones that are the wrong shoulder, the ones that are not coming back, those are so easy to teach to learn to be like, dude, you got to fix this. It's not like Quentin Johnston where it's like there's a problem in your head. I don't know how to teach you to just catch a Pall the skills, the traits, they're all there. For Marvin Harrison, there's just rookie mistakes. So I'm not too scared about Marvin Harrison's future. But there's clearly a disconnect and he is not whatever what the whole world hoped. And I would go further and say, NAY expected him to be in his rookie season. We expect him to be ceedee Lamb right now.
Yeah, I think the name didn't help. Like if he had a completely different name, we would say, Okay, this is a really good prospect, but coming in it's also like I compared like Stroud throwing the ball in college and Kyler in just like the way that you have these wide open offenses and Marv's just open on these post routes that you know, you just see defenders in the NFL just staying with him. He's just not doesn't have the same separation. But I don't know, like Marv's gonna have a ten touchdown season and it's.
Yeah, like Marv will get better the next four years in a row.
Yeah bets any quick thoughts.
Not really I share most of the same thoughts you guys have, where the expectation I think was obviously in hindsight easy to say, but too high, and not just from like a Kyler to Marv standpoint, but also the offensive philosophy, like this is not an offense that wants to open it up like some of the other offenses in football. Obviously, James Connor's the identity, they just signed him to an extension. Tre McBride is the first read on a lot of plays, so it's hard for any wide receiver to be like an elite fantasy asset. When that's the case of the offense as a whole, plus some of the you know, growing pains as a rookie. So yeah, obviously he's still confident in his talent level and kind of long term outlook, but obviously you're disappointed year. I'm really interested to see when we turn the page to the offseason and we look at startup ADP and that sort of thing. I'm super interested to see where he goes and how much people react to his rookie season I assume negatively, and see where he's at because he was a guy that I mean for a lot of people, a lot of rankings, like he was a top ten Dynasty wide receiver before he even played a snap, not rookie obviously, so I'm interested to see what the market does with him.
I've been thinking about his career trajectory and I just shared this with you guys, But like DK metcalf if you look at just like where he finished in his career every single year, it's points per aim all that stuff, and then you just think about like how we view DK metcalfer, like, man, this guy's an awesome receiver. He's huge, And DK metcals only had two seasons as a top twelve wide receiver. It's felt like he's had more, but like these finishes in his career wide receiver thirty two, seven, twelve, eighteen, sixteen, twenty four, if you got those that career from Marvin Harrison, would you say he's a disappointment.
He will absolutely be a disappointment. And if that's what you end up with, which is a good career.
Right right, That's like what I'm trying to put in a context, like if this is what he is, that is a very good like he was worth them drafting in the first round as an alpha wide receiver who's gonna get a second contract, have some double digit touchdown seasons, and yet for fantasy we're gonna look back and be like, wait, where are the top five seasons?
For sure? All about expectation.
Yeah, it's it's fantasy football squad. All right, Let's say a quick break and we'll be right back. We are back and we're gonna play a little game. And so for this game, I have stolen a drop just because you're here, Jason.
Story time with Jason.
Is I don't remember that. You don't remember this. I don't remember the drop?
Okay, Jason, you you know a lot of people listening have spent a lot of time with you over the years. It's like funny to think about, like there are thousands, thousands people around the world that have been like, yeah, I've I've hung out with Jason for so many hours. And back in the day, you used to do a little segment called Storytime with Jason. This actually, I think debuted on a show after the show.
So it was like, you know, that makes sense, that makes sense the show after the show, talking about some life problem that that math checks out.
Yeah, you're you're a good storyteller. You know, I would give you some credit, but I wanted to make sure that we had a segment so that you, as a listener, can kind of hear a share a story. And then Jason and and Betts are gonna kind of guess who this player is. Okay, So I'm gonna slowly kind of build and then we'll have some dynasty conversations about this player, what are they worth? If you have a player in mind, guys, I want you to lock it in. Okay, So in the past we played a game called who am I? I want you to lock this player in to see if you got it to see how smart you are. Okay, all right, So the first player and we'll talk about was drafted in the NFL as a first rounder. Okay, so first round NFL draft pick, and in dynasty, they were once ranked as high as second at their position. Okay, So your initial reaction is this player's legit. I haven't told you a position or anything, but that should be your initial reaction. If I told you that they are only in their fifth year in the NFL, what would you tell me so far about this information about this player's value.
I would imagine the way that you're telling the story, it's not that high anymore. In general, if someone's only in their fifth year and within their career they've been number two overall in fantasy, you would imagine that right now they are still they should be super duper duper high. But by your verbiage, we know that that is not the case. They have fallen from grace.
Yeah, based off you just said they've been in the NFL for five.
Years, though you said, yeah, this is their fifth year.
So they're probably right around age twenty seven ish, which is like peak wide receiver production. So you'd think that they be This player would have massive value is based off what you're saying is what I would think.
Yes, I think they're twenty six point seven years old. So this player is still at a point where you would say, hey, they got a ton of football left and depending on their position, Like if I told you they were a quarterback or tied in and they were twenty six years old, what would you say.
Oh, their future is ahead of them.
Okay, all right, I'll give you a couple more stats and then we'll talk about this player. Since this team went on their by this year, their offense has changed dramatically. All right. Since Week six, their sixth in passing yards per game. They have the fourth high explosive pass rate, So this is an offense that you'd want to buy in too. For the last six seven weeks. And then here's one more clue for you. Since Week eight, this person is one of only two players at their position with five top twelve weeks. So since week eight they've been really really good for fantasy and really consistent for fantasy. Okay, I also will add this is the final clue. This will hopefully give it to you. Do you guys have any have any guess?
I have a guess.
Yeah, this is a wide receiver.
Correct, this is not a wide receiver.
I run.
I thought it was a wide receiver. I was thinking wide receiver the whole time. For some reason, I thought you said that, So I need to reshift my thinking. Go ahead and give me, give me your last one.
Yeah, I'm trying to make sure that as I'm building the case, the story for this player, that you kind of get in your mind how young they are, how valuable they are, how good they are, and then we'll zero in the position and this final clue will give it to you. I think this player might have the cleanest throwing motion of any quarterback in the NFL, and is my personal favorite quarterback to watch throw the football in the NFL.
That did not give it away.
It is not Josh Jacobs. That's what I know. Beul very confident in that your favorite quarterback to throw the ball? Who was all right, how long has Baker been playing?
Baker's Baker's a little bit older. Okay, I'm gonna give it to you right now. It is Justin Herbert of the Los Angeles Chargers.
He's throw he throws the most beautiful ball. That what am I doing? I mean, that was that was a that was a giveaway clue. I was stuck on Josh Jacobs.
I thought it was a wide receiver the whole time for some for some reason, man, I'm killing it at the storytime.
Then yeah, so Justin Herbert and by the way, like it wasn't a good fantasy output against the Falcons, they just never had the ball. Kirk had the ball the whole time and then decided to give it away. But Justin Herbert is in his fifth year and the offense has shifted right Like it was like we went in this season like, oh, he's never gonna get to throw the ball again. The first couple of weeks, the first month of the season, it was like, Okay, g ro and Harbaugh are doing what we thought they would do, run the ball. And then since the bye their week five by, they've been throwing the ball at a pretty high rate. My question for you is what is he moving forward? Because Justin Herbert was once you know QB two in Dynasty, he was like the dude up there with Mahomes has this massive drop. And then I would say in the last two months has had kind of an uptick in value of people like Okay, he can be sustainable as offense. They have a couple of weapons. But what do you see for Herbert moving forward in dynasty.
I think he's a top ten Dynasty quarterback. We knew it was likely going to be a downturn this year. They don't have great weapons. They want to run the ball more and establish it. What we've seen with the change of how they've allowed Herbert to kind of take over a little bit more recently. Part of that can be the Androida JK. Dobbins, the inability to run the ball, And maybe next year they focus on getting the offensive line stronger and getting a you know, a high draft pick running back in there, and then we have all the same worries. But what I love about what we've seen this year is that Harbaugh and g Row have a winning formula and they are allowing Herbert to be Herbert. He said, you know, since that bye, I mean he had until this week against Atlanta, he had five top twelve quarterback finishes in a row. And that's with Quintin Johnston as the wide receiver two and a tiny rookie as the wide receiver one. So he's young. I think he's got a bright future. These also running the ball a little bit more in this system, which I hoped for and expected. So I think he's a top ten Dynasty quarterback going forward.
Yeah, I think just to speak to that too, like the change in the offensive philosophy, maybe it was just let's give Herbert some time to acclimate to this new system. And you know, not surprisingly he picked it up because he's so good. But then the offense said, okay, look he gets it, let's unleash him a little bit more here and let's throw it. Probably coincided with the reduced efficiency from the running game. Also, remember Herbert had the high kel sprain in like Week three, I think it was so he was kind of banged up, but now you're seeing him runn which to your point, Jason has always been a part of Greg Roman's schemes. Obviously he's never going to be Lamar, but you know, twenty twenty five rushing yards a game that goes a long way over the course of a season in fantasy. So yeah, I think Justin Herbert definitely is a top ten Dynasty quarterback, and I do believe the weaponry will only get better next season and beyond.
Yeah, Josh Palmer will be off the books next year. They have the seventh most cap space in the NFL, the third fewest cap dollars devoted to wide receivers. So I wonder how do they invest in this offense in the offseason. It's one of those things in Dynasty, we're just trying to be a step ahead. So you know, let's say I'm just throwing out, Let's say they got T Higgins. How would that shift how we view justin Herbert, you know what I mean?
Take a big deal. I would also imagine they might go after a tight end as well, because they've seen the success of Will Disley, and if they were to, you know, get someone a tier or two above, I think that could make an impact. And they're going to want to run the ball. So I would be surprised if they don't add an important tight end this offseason. But certainly they know it. The whole world knows it. They have to have another wide receiver. There they they have Lad and a Mishmash.
Yeah, and Lad is going to play an important role. I think what we keep talking about, you know, on the off the podcast, just like he just can't hold up every play he catches the ball.
He can't be a guy that's gonna go out there and catch one hundred and twenty five passes. I just don't think he'll survive exactly.
Oh man, all right, a couple of player comparisons. If you would you rather have in Dynasty Justin Herbert or Kyler Murray?
Oh, that was the name. I was thinking about asking you that exact question, not joking. Long term, I think I think Herbert is safer. If you say, what is the ceiling outcome best season for either of these guys, I think both of them could have a top three season in the future. So I would take Herbert over Kyler.
I think I would too. I think it's pretty close. You know, Kyler will randomly give us those like fifty yards on the ground and a rushing score, and obviously that does a lot in fantasy. But I've lean Herbert just for like the long term safety of the position. But I still like I still like Kyler. I'm not overreacting to this season because we've seen games where Kyler's awesome and then the next week it's like, what are we doing here? But I think Ellen Herbert they're both very valuable.
Still, all right, this one, if you said before the season, you just said you were crazy.
But c J.
Stroud or Justin Herbert.
I'll take both Kyler and Herbert over c J. Stroud has been. We talked about this when we made c J. Stroud our bust pick in the UdK is that you're hoping that he develops into what Herbert has already been and what Joe Burrow has already been. Like there was a big hope that he becomes Joe Burrow, who is going rounds and rounds later after c J. Stroud. Truth is, he hasn't and he had everything set up. I know he lost Nico at times, lost digs at times, but he also had times where he had Nigo Collins, he had Stefan Diggs, he had Tank Dell, he had Joe mixed and it wasn't that great. So he's a pocket passer more like Herbert, but even even more so than Herbert. So I would take the other two guys ahead of c J. Stroud despite the age. The age is obviously the only checkbox that is clearly in c J. Stroud's corner, But eventually you gotta have fantasy points.
Yeah. Stroud's sack avoidance has been very different than it was rookie year. That's kind of been the biggest buggaloo for him. But yeah, i'd take Herbert as well, which I think the end of the season, you know, people were taking Stroud like one or two at quarterback and startups, which without the rushing is just crazy. All right, Another story for you guys, And this one's kind of about checking boxes. Okay. So I know that's something when we do prospect modeling a lot of times we're figuring out prospects like, ooh, do they check these boxes? So tell me if this player so far checks these boxes. They were a Day two pick and they were taken in rookie drafts as a mid to late first rounder. So so far, would you say in dynasty, that's checking some boxes.
Yeah, those are important boxes to check.
Okay.
Uh.
This player's size and speed, okay, so which will probably give away the position. But six foot two sixteen it's pretty.
Good, okay. And for four three.
Nine, how's how's that cooking for you? So far?
That's cooking great, man. I mean, you know, I like these runbacks, you know, Okay, so.
So far this is this is a good player.
Four three four three nine was right down. I got two guys, I got I got two guys. I think Jonathan Taylor is heavier than that.
Though, what if I told you did run Jason?
I think he did run four three.
No, it comes off the top of my head. I think you're right.
What if I told you this player is on an offense that is top ten right now in EPA per play, so expect what's out of per play. This is a good offense in the top half of the NFL. It's when you want what if I also told you that this offense is number one in the NFL an explosive rush rate, so big plays. Okay, Now, the last part I will add is that so far, this sounds like a player you want on your dynasty roster. They're young, Okay, they're actually only twenty two years old. Oh wow, they're a Day two pick. They were mid to late first rounder and rookie drafts. They're on a good offense. They check the side speed. And then here's the last part. It's very clear that this player is the backup on his own team of course.
Okay, all right, so we know it's a.
And then the last piece of information is it is a rookie.
Oh, I was thinking a second year guy.
They're all backups on their team. So every single rookie running back this year's backup on his team. Great explosive run plays man four three nine. I want to say that was Trey Benson who ran four three nine.
It is Trey Benson is the player that we will be talking about because going into the season, we just assumed this is where things are headed. This guy was drafted in the third round. He's gonna be the air apparent. Connor's on the last year of his deal. And then Jason and Mike just from the bush to just say, I feel like they might resign this twenty nine year old running back. And I don't know about you, bets. I just filed that away as like, okay, they're Arizona guys, they're homers. There's no way an NFL team resigns a twenty nine year old running back. And sure enough, James Connor just got an extension this past week for two more years. So I don't know what are y'all's thoughts on what to do with Trey Benson. If you're a manager, or if you're the James Connor manager, should you trade for him. We really haven't seen a ton on film to be able to make a call of he's great or not.
Uh. He takes a massive hit with that contract to James Connor. Trey Benson's future was to be the future, and it is no longer that his Dynasty outlook is going to go with James Connor's health. That's it. And the truth is, I think when James Connor does miss a couple games, because he's not going the next two years plus the rest of this year without missing games. That's not James Connor's style. When James Connor misses a couple of games, you're gonna have Trey Benson be an important fantasy asset. And when James Connor comes back from those missed games, James Connor will go back into first place. And I think that will happen for long enough to where Trey Benson is looking for a second contract and as a backup somewhere else. I mean, I genuinely think Trey Benson, who was my personal number one running back coming into this draft from just the pre NFL draft scouting, when we didn't have locations, we didn't know what teams that were going to I loved Trey Benson, but some of the issues that we did see in this college tape, primarily vision, we have seen that big time as an NFL player, He's not looked great. He has come, he's gotten better. He's young, so okay, that's that's awesome, getting better and better. But he's the backup. He's going to be the backup, and when an injury pushes him in front, he will then go back to being the backup that I'm so confident in trade Benson is not playing his way in front of James Connor until there's a season ending injury. Yeah, and so he's really just an insurance back. I agree.
All off season Jaronathan Gannon, I mean it felt like every presser was talking about James Connor and how he's the heartbeat of the locker room and you know, he's the dude and all that stuff. They love him. Obviously they resigned him going back to college With Benson, one of the concerns I had coming out was he never really was like a true workhorse back. He was kind of in like the thirteen to fifteen touch range, which is a lot of touches, of course, but like his career high and carries in a season was one fifty six. So I think there's a possibility that even if James Connor would miss time, whether it's this year or next year, that I don't think you'd see him step into like the every down role for the team. Maybe it happens a week or two, but I think most likely I come here is he's probably, like Jason said, best case, kind of a top handcuff for the next couple of years in dynasty. But even if he gets that chance, like, are you confident he'll get you know, twenty touches, I'm not necessarily. The other thing that's that's been weird about him is like he had that little run before the bye week where he got some work, but those were massive blowout wins for the Cardinals. When the chips are down, this team is going to James Connor, no question. So yeah, I with Jason, I think it's a huge hit to his value, and to me, he really is not anything more than the rbto and his team and a handcuff.
He's an expensive insurance policy too. Like if you think about people in your league, whoever drafted trede Bents and took him at the I don't know, one oh nine something like that in a one quarterback league. You know, a fringe first second rounder in superflex, And so they invested that draft capital, and now you're at the point where it's like, well, I'm just gonna hold onto this player. I know Connor gets hurt. That's his MO his entire career. So it's not really a player that you could just acquire on the cheap as some random backup like He's he'll cost you more than just I don't know. I feel like people want more than just a second rounder. He's he has upside in people's mind, perceived upside. So if you're the Connor manager, like, what do you think are you? Are you willing to pay more than a second rounder.
I'm probably not, but I would be willing to pay a second rounder. The question is whether someone who spent a late first yea the prior trade Benson, will they give him up for a second rounder. And I think that you're gonna have plenty of leagues. It would after after the James Connor contract extension. I mean, it just it kicks Tredy Benson and the balls just straight up both both of them, both boys.
Tray's like, oh man, I got it, got it in the Gonads album.
Man, I remember a real quick before me on from from Connor. H. Kyle and I made a trade before the season started. I could tell his season was going another direction. I got a chance here and I said, hey, Kyle, Connor's only got one year left in this deal. Man, your team's rebuilding life. Let's just do this for a second and uh, let's move on.
Oh you got James Connor for a second.
I got I'm feeling great after getting James Connor for a second, So thank you Kyle that well.
Also, before we move on, I did look it up. Jonathan Taylor did run four three nine, but he was too heavy to twenty.
Six, too too heavy. I did want to compare just a couple quick names, because was you rather a Benson or Brayln Allen in Dynasty? Because I lean on the Allen side.
Allen, I would I would lean on the Benson side simply because Breece, while you know, if you've been listening to the main show, I'm I'm really I'm really bad, I'm that bad and whatnot. But just the age gap between don't kick him and the balls, well, Breece is and what James Connor is. I would rather take the one with the old running back ahead of him.
That's fair. I just I mean, we've seen brailin at least, and he's looked like a capable NFL running back, which I would lean for that reason. But I wouldn't fault anybody for going out the direction.
And still yet to turn twenty one. So stupid young.
Brayl Allen is such a big boy, and he's a boy as not a man yet.
Yeah, if he was your son, you'd be like, well, son, you could totally beat me up.
Oh for sure. I mean at what age was he able to beat his father up? Like twelve twelve?
Yeah, he's gonna be on a second contract and he'll be like twenty three years old.
There comes a time in a man's life where you realize, Wow, I wonder if I could wrestle my dad. Braylan Allen just came out of the womb and said, yeah, bring, I can do this. I can do this all right. One more name with Trey Benson. This is a funny name, Trey Benson or Travis Etn in Dynasty.
I would still go Etn.
I know, it's definitely still well, it's it's without a doubt, it's Etn. Etn still has another contract, half another contract. I I just hate Travis Etn. This is a part of part of my downfall in this dynasty league, where you know, I was a juggernaut that was that has collapsed. Some of them have been injuries, you know, losing DeVante Smith, losing Chris o'lave when I lost Drake London for a little bit. Okay, those were bad, but some of them has just been like Travis Etn, Travis Etn, I've lost the player. He's not gone, but I've lost him. The Jacksonville Jaguars season has imploded. It imploded quickly. I think there's still what two wins they had two win franchise right now. Yes, I mean, you know it's it's over. That being said it, you know, it did come with a kind of a early mid season injury to Etn that hurt things, and then Trevor Lawrence injuries and now Trevor Lawrence is out, and then it just got murky. I do believe Etn is the clear leader of the backfield, even though Tank Bigsby has finally looked like what I thought he was going to look like coming in as a rookie year. He's looked very good. Etn has more value, he's the starter, and I don't think that the offense will be as bad as it has been with all their injuries this season, so I would take et and ahead of them. Agreed.
Good. Last little thought on Benson is if you're going to trade for him, let it be close to the NFL Draft, because people, you know, those draft picks only get more valuable. So if you could trade him for a second, a late second, I met, you can make it happen closer to the NFL Draft. Let's take quick break. We'll be right back. All right, We're going to continue with a little bit more storytime here. And what if I were to tell you that this player was a Day one pick in the NFL draft so far first round first rounder.
We like him in to mar Chase locked it in.
It's not bad. We were looking for Kyle Pitts, the player taking ahead of him in the first round of the NFL Draft by a loser franchise. No so first round pick in rookie draft. This player went very early in the first round. So this is a very high end player. Okay, However, the Dynasty value of this player has been quite a roller coaster. They were top fifteen at their position when they were drafted. It bottomed out and I looked on some sites this player was wide receiver thirty three on some sites in September. Okay, this year of this year, Oh, in September. Now, okay, a couple months later, this player is in the exact same place they were when they were drafted in Dynasty. So now they are a top fifteen dynasty wide receiver. Within a span of three months, they're back to where they started. Okay. Is this a player that you would say, Wow, this is somebody I could buy into. This players only twenty two years old, and since Week nine they've averaged over twenty Fantasy points per game. Okay, would you say that this is a player you want to have as a bedrock of your dynasty.
I know exactly who it is.
I would definitely want this profile. Is the bedrock of my team?
Uh yeah, you know, I almost use this as my deep dive film study. Guy, it has to be Jerry Judy. Am I wrong?
It is not Jerry Judy.
He's twenty two years old.
Oh. I didn't think about that one, but he was. He was a first round pick who was super highly drafted in the rookie year, who then fell from graces and now in the last couple of weeks has been I can't I mean other than the twenty two he fits that to a t. He does. Okay, all right, all.
Right, now he would be an interesting dynasty case to study of. Just here's what we thought, here's what we thought was never gonna happen, and now we're getting this little run of Jerry Judy just being unbelievable. Okay, So this players not even twenty three years old, and then right now they're the wide receiver eight?
Is it on this Drake?
It is not Drake London?
What is happening? Is this?
He guesses, is this Stearan Madison?
No, it's not the player we are looking for. Is Jackson?
Yeah? That makes sense.
Not even twenty three years old, and I feel like we've had an entire story with him so far in his career. I mean we're in year two. Remember when he came in. He was drafted twentieth overall, and all of those wide receivers were all taken together and JSN after his rookie year, were just like, well, we're getting a bunch of low a doc crap that we don't care about. That's not good for fantasy. We kind of had that confirmed earlier in the year, and then he's been on a run over the last month plus where JSN now is a top ten wide receiver on the season, and then in Dynasty he's seen as a top fifteen wide receiver in terms of value. So one, do you think he warrants that? And I'll give you some names, but do you think he's a top fifteen Dynasty wide receiver?
I think that's definitely. That's definitely the range like fifteen to twenty ish makes sense to me. I definitely need some names around there. But I think it's I think it's fair based off of his collegiate profile, draft capital, and recent performances, but not just recent like you've seen flashes over the course the last two years, but now we know like he's solidified as the top one or two on the team with Metcalf, with Lockett kind of fading out, So I think it's pretty fair.
It's funny because we you know, we've had the question on the main show which I'm sure is one of the names you have. Who would you rather have in front in a Dynasty league, which is DK Metcalf. You know, would you rather have DK Metcalf or JSN on the same team. Obviously there's an age gap there. I would expect that on a weekly basis, I would rather start DK Metcalf right now over JSN. I would expect that this year, I'd expect that next year. So my answer would usually then be on on that side. But I think I've got DK Metcalf at about my wide receiver fifteen. So yeah, I mean he's right there. Let's just play the name game.
Yeah, it's there's a four year age gap, a little over four year between the guys, So think about that. I think the crazier thing to think about is JSN if we just deleted everything that's happened in the last year and a half, he's at the exact same place we thought he would be at when we drafted him. Like, oh, this is like a top fifteen Dynasty wide receiver. Look at the production profile. He's going to be good. We've gone through this roller coaster and now we're like, is this for real? Can we really jump in on this, but I'll give you some other names to think about. Would you rather have Jsin or George pick.
That is tough. I I kind of lean George Pickens.
I'm so proud of George Pickens.
I do too. I lean the Pickens side. You worry a little bit with the Steelers history of just chewing up and spitting out really good quality receivers and just saying, whatever, we'll draft another one, we'll draft the next one, we'll draft the next one, We'll draft the next, you know, and so long term dynasty. I worry a bit. But he's still got enough years, right, He's got two more years there? Am I right? Under contract? Someone looked that up. If he's got two more solid years, he is the one. He's looked great. He's playing like an alpha and he matches Russell Wilson pretty well.
I don't know if that's contract.
Oh gosh, oh my, that is actually a real thing. Like I think that makes fed up with his stupid penalties and taunting, and you hear I'm talking about it today in his presser he was like, yep, he's got to grow up, Like at some point, Tomlin's not going to wait around for that, so that doesn't.
Cons with only one year left under contract, because I genuinely think that he could be gone from being a Steeler and then you know, when he goes to another team, he's probably the two. If he's not, if he's going to the team as a one, he's probably going to a really bad franchise. So unless he's got a contract extension, until that moment that he gets a contract extension, I would take JSN over him.
How many touchdowns does George Pickens have this year? Guys, off top of your.
Head, touchdowns does George Pickens have three?
It's three? That shocked me.
Well, he's he's had like at least three called back on stupid plays penalties.
And he's a yardage guy and he's not going to be a high PPR guy in Pittsburgh the way that you'd get somewhere else. So, like the target share numbers are always like up there this season twenty eight percent, you're just not seeing these crazy volume games. I mean, he's gonna have a game like you did what was it last year against the Bengals where it's like one hundred and ninety five on four catches, Like he will have those games Jasn feels a lot safer. He's a year younger. I mean, do you think that people perceive Pickens is more valuable?
Though?
I think they're probably in the same tier. I mean, I would think that.
Both both Bets and I were quick to answer Pickens. So given what he's been doing, I think you could find people that value Pickens higher, you know, and if this was a redraft, if this isn't Dynasty and this is just like, you know, my trade deadline hasn't passed, and I have to pick one of these guys rest of the season, it's definitely Pickens, in which case maybe you can get a deal done for Jasen.
Yeah, it's just one of those things that I have Pickens in. One of our leagues are Dino Junior League, and he's a fun player to have in Dynasty.
Oh you dude, this Dino Junior League. It is I just realized today. So right now we're in the bye we're the number one seed, and I think, I don't I don't know what our record is. It's outstanding. Maybe we've got two or three losses. No, I'm not at you, Kyle. I'm angry at you because you your team is I think it was a hair away from being seven and seven this last week.
Somehow my team's hot garbage though.
Hot garbage, and and and had you won that game by a hair, you would be as close to having the bye as my awesome team. Because because it's a divisional winner gets the bye. It's so stupid because your division is so bad right now, an eight win team is like pretty much locked in for a bye week. Well, I'm like whatever, twelve wins and and I'm battling with Schneider is just making me angry. This is the week where I'm going through all the leagues and I'm looking at like what you know now, like what are the playoff scenarios? What teams do I need to win? Lose?
Draw?
You know? And And when I went through those in the Dino Junior and realized that you are basically as close to a bye week with your six win team as I am, or we could be next week, just is gross. Somebody's a better commission that thing.
My thirteen personnel team that's running three tight ends every single week. Yeah, and one of those tight ends is John Who's freaking Smith?
Oh? I mean that's that's a wide receiver.
I know, all right, one more player let's talk about here. This player is a veteran. Okay, and by veteran, i'm gonna say they've been in the league longer than you know, three or four years, okay, so a little older. They were once ranked as high as number one at their position. Okay, so at some point this player was seen as almost untouchable in Dynasty.
Whoa start over? Say it again?
This players a veteran. This player was once ranked as high as number one overall at their position. Okay, so that's it's one of the positions. And they were really good. At one point at the beginning of the season, they were seen as about top five, top six at their position. Okay. In early October, there was panic in the streets, and their Dynasty value dropped to seventeenth at their position. Okay, okay, but here's the thing. Since that time when everyone got scared, everyone panicked, since Week six, they've scored twelve plus Fantasy points in six of their eight games. That's the most of any player at their position.
Okay, all right, so so far, I think I've got my guests.
Okay, you think you got a guest. Bets do you have anybody in mind.
Is this Mark Andrews.
This is Mark freaking Andrews.
We are so we're so back. I thought, I'm so happy I brought.
Up Mark Andrews because if you've had him in Dynasty, if you traded for him whenever you did, you've basically had to dig your heels in and just say I believe this is what I believe, this is who this player is. And I think all of us have loved Mark Andrews for a very long time.
Pro Mark Andrews. Yeah, the three of us, not like on this show, before this show ever existed, the Dynasty show ever existed, You've all been independently like Mark Andrews is a good player. He's really a talented tight end. He's just when he's on the field, he's been good.
Yes, Betts has lost thousands of dollars on him in beast Ball, just emptied his bank account, just said, hey, Mark Andrews is the key.
Yeah, my wife is not listening to this episode. Sorry, the kids can't go to college. Mark Andrews wasn't the guy you needed.
He's been really good since week six. But I do want to bring this up because the question is how many more productive years does he have? He has one more year under contract, okay, twenty twenty five, and just the eyes is just numbers, not insinuated anything. But his cap hit is sixteen point nine million and his dead cap is only five point nine. They would actually save eleven million dollars if they moved on. Not saying they should, but that is a lot of money for a team that needs to kind of diversify in some other areas. So with Mark Andrews, how many more productive years does he have left? He's twenty nine point two years old.
I think, given what he means to the franchise, I expect that he will be re signed. That would be my current belief, even though they have Isaiah likely there, and you could make an argument that he's disposable and maybe roster construction wise, they should move on. I still don't believe they will. And if that's the case, I think he has three really really solid seasons left. I mean he's twenty nine, so you know it's it's normal for even an older tight end than that see zach Ertz right now to be successful, especially someone with the goal line prowess. You know, you can end up having even five years of productivity if the last the later parts are just basically Antonio gatesing around the goal line, where you end the season with like four hundred yards but you got thirteen touchdowns. I could see that. But I do think he's got three valuable seasons left for sure.
I agree with that. And you know, we talked about this a lot with tight Ends, is this is kind of where this like twenty eight to thirty ishery and just kind of the peak for their production unless you're Black Powers, and then they kind of.
Just imagine when he's twenty eight, bro dude.
He's gonna be unreal. He'sn be the wide receiver one gradually kind of fall off over the next few seasons. So yeah, I think you got maybe one more contract where you feel really good about Mark Andrews, whether that's in Baltimore or elsewhere. But yeah, I think you got a few more years of him being productive. So it's been it's been really good to see the bounce back. My only worry is that it's been very touchdown dependent, but that's kind of tight Ends anyway, not name brock power. So yeah, it's been good in his role around the round the goal line, like Jason said, is very good.
It's a great case study and looking at what we can do when we overreact in redraft. It's one thing because the opportunity cost is the same overreacting in Dynasty. Is you dumping a player like Mark Andrews after I don't know, week three, week four, when he goosed and you end up getting like a second round pick, It's like, okay, you you basically saw what you saw a month into the season and just ignored the last I don't know, five six years. And the offense, like we believe in Lamar, we believe in the offense. I think this offense is always going to exist with two tight ends. So with Isaiah Likely, maybe they do have a restructured deal Jason, and they figure it out with Andrews and then they just keep keep with Likely. I'll give you some names. Would you rather have Mark Andrews? And the names I'm bringing up are names that are currently ahead in a lot of Dynasty rankings. Dalton Kincaid or Mark Andrews.
Oh, that's as to me, that's an easy Mark Andrews. I don't think. I don't think Dalton Kincaid. I mean I was saying it I think it was on this podcast a couple of weeks ago. I was saying it's sell now because he's still young. There's still a lot of hope for Dalton Kincaid, and I'm not that hopeful Aileen Andrews as.
Well Kyle Pitts or Mark Andrews.
Mark Andrews, Yeah, easy, Mark Andrews.
It was easy for me too. But Kyle Pitts is ahead, and a lot of Dynasty rankings across the board and then one that is ahead, and if you can get this deal done right now, I would do it right now. Cad Aughton or Mark Andrews.
Mark Andrews, Mark Andrews, for sure.
It's wild to me, as someone that literally has thought about cad Aughton almost every single day for the last three years, that he has a like, what three or four game run and then he's elevated to being a top six to seven tight end.
I wish you were joking, Kyla, Sadly you're not.
I know Kitaden is out there. I respect him, I respect him a ton I've dressed up as him, but he is not a cornerstone of a Dynasty team. I think Mark Andrews can lead people to titles for this year next year, so keep that in mind, don't overreact. That's I think my biggest point here with Mark Andrews. That's gonna do it for this episode of the Dynasty Podcast. We're still gonna be rolling all the way through the rest of the season, in the playoffs, in the offseason, and we'll be talking all things rookies soon. We'll talk to you again next week.
Goodbye, goodbye.
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