Dynasty Startup Mock Draft + Low-T Levels - Dynasty Fantasy Football

Published Jun 12, 2024, 9:00 AM

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Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Dynasty Podcast with Borg Bets and a Baller.

Welcome in.

It's a Fantasy Footballers Dynasty podcast. I'm your host, Cob Organoni, and I am joined by Matthew Betts and Mike Right.

We're back baby. Hello Mica. Sultry tones from Smooth So Smooth.

It's it's smooth boys, cause today this show is going to be buttery, silky smooth.

You're going for some some buttery buttery moves, buttery like choices in this startup draft.

It's just like it's gonna go down so easy because it is a mock draft. The people have demanded it. We we have acquiesced to the angry woke mob. Just kidding, but we got to. But we got the startup going, so I'm super pumped to do it. Man, drafting is the best I don't get to do, like and a startup draft for dynasty. It's it's one time. It's one time, so you you don't get to experience it nearly as much as a redraft. So I'm pumped to do it.

There's a lot of people that every single year, like you need to do a Listener league for the Dynasty Show. It's like, okay, well, you realize that if we do this, this is for life. This is like it'd be a really good giveaway. It's just saying, hey, you get to be in a league with us for life forever.

I've got too bad, buddy, you're here.

It's like, these are the people, These are the people that we're with, and you might have a couple of those people in your leagues. Like I have one guy I'm not.

Gonna name him, is it Jason?

But no, no, no, no, it's not a baller's league. It's a it's a it's a dynasty league that I started with some friends that It's like this guy thinks that he's playing redraft, but it's dynasty. But he's holding onto names from five years ago, and uh, you know that actually might be andy strategy, but he's actually one with it. He's holding onto old dudes.

Well they weren't always old, but yeah, I mean I remember, well, I think it was our the main dynasty league, which that's ten years ago now, which has the three of us from the main Fantasy footballers and a bunch of other people from the staff as well, and they weren't, as you know, hip to the idea of like don't draft a super old running back early. And it was like, I think Jamal Charles so ten years ago. But it was like Jamal Charles went in like the second round or something, and it was like, thank you for doing that, because there's no world where I would have made that pick.

The people in your league, Like, that's that's who make it though, like I think of like we give advice on the show, we have our rankings, everything in the Ultimate Draft Kit, But when it comes down to it, like the things that make leagues what they are is the people in them. And I would just say, like it's the chaos. Yes, it's people that like are annoyingly texting me at you know, ungodly hours because they've known me for a long time, saying like I want to trade just for the sake of trading. Like I I man, I have a couple of friends.

I don't care. Man, I need to get this third round pick through. This has to happen right now.

I tell you, I look. Pro tip if someone is texting you that late and they want to make a trade, just saying they may not be sending the best offer in their own interest, So I'd take that text.

I have a couple of people that, like I kind of know if we're starting the conversation, I just know, like, Okay, this is not where it's going to end. I just need to play this out because this person is just Jones and they want to trade. They just have to, and they at least make leagues fun because they're active. Like I want active members. I want people, yes, that don't just stick. I mean a Dynasty roster, especially when it's a player. It's like, oh man, you have Puka. Oh I have no shot at Puka because he's on the person's roster that doesn't check at all. Dynasty. You want there to be activity. And on this episode, we will do a Dynasty startup mock. We will post the entire thing online, so if you're watching on YouTube, you can look at the board, but we will be posting that online. Bets and I did just finish a startup superflex mock with the foot Clan, which was it actually went by really really fast, like I'm in some other industry mocks right now, but that one was some great people in nurse always leagues starting at foot Clan leagues. But yeah, bets, I mean was that was a good experience. And I started off hot with three wide receivers, Seedee Lamb, Marvin Harrison, and then on the third round reversal, I had Tyreek quarterbacks.

Wow, we don't need to.

Talk about that because I know there's some haters out there. But JJ McCarthy have you heard of him?

I've heard of him.

Mike ear muffs here. Deshaun Watson was one of my quarterbacks.

I understand it.

He was, he was super late and h then I got another. I did a shotgun approach where I got two other two or three other guys, Sam Darnold, Justin Fields, and Drew Locke.

Yeah, you can check check out. It's not good.

I like the powerhouse wide receivers and look for the strata of punting quarterback like I mean, you just you know that that's okay. That's where I'm going to be focused on making sure I'm paying attention.

Yeah, And I went through and I used our rankings and you can use that in our app right now, our two quarterback rankings. I will actually be sorting right now.

Mike.

Is it kind of weird that you're about to be drafting with two people that know your rankings maybe as well as you do.

No, it's it's not weird, it's I mean that would be what it's. Uh. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, they say, So I'm just being flattered.

Good.

Well, we're gonna get started on this dynasty startup mock But once again, Ultimate draft kit dot com if you want to look at our rankings and then tell us we're idiots for not drafting the way that we were supposed to. But you can sort by Andy's rankings, Jason's, Mike, or get a consensus. You can also see their age everything else. So Ultimate draft Line not yours.

I don't put my age on there.

Mike, you are let me see.

I think you're just saying it. You kind of like you were talking about the Ballers. We put our ages on there first day social Security network. Not point that's all there, not point four, but forty one something.

I think you're forty one point five when the season starts, my friend. Okay, that's fine, All right, let's say you get it.

The Fantasy Footballers mock draft.

I will be your tour guide on this lovely experience. Mike will be picking from the four spot. I will be picking from the seven bets is at eleven. The way that we have our rosters set up is this is a one quarterback. We have two running backs, two wide receivers, two flex a tight end, and then we're just gonna be drafting until our heart so desires benches upon bench players upon bench players. We're not gonna go twenty five rounds. I am sorry, it's just not gonna happen for this podcast.

Yeah, we will go deep, but.

Yeah, it's a standard snake and off the board first Justin Jefferson, Ceedee Lamb and then CMC. So did that surprise you at all?

Mike the I mean it certainly does. But Christian McCaffrey is one of the most difficult guys to value in a startup of the contract extension is like that part feels pretty great that they're at least financially invested in him to a into him for a few more years. And he's he's a freak, like he is one of the outlier running backs. But time catches people, and when it catches, it's it feels like it's an immediate thing. He'll have pass catching to rely on. But when it falls off, it will fall off quickly, so I would not have made that decision. I am on the clock. I want one of the big four wide receivers when i'm if if I'm in the top four, if I'm in the top five, I'm really hoping I get a big four wide receiver as well. But to me, it's Jefferson, Ceedee, lamb amen Ra and Jamar Chase who I will be taking Jamar Chase, and that is a foundational player. Like, so just real quick, the running backs, you know, it's Breece Hall, Jamiir Gibbs, Johnny Taylor, like those are kind of the only three that I think are and Bijon who went right after me. I think those are the like acceptable guys. But even and I don't really like to do that in the first.

Yeah, I'm looking right now. So McCaffrey in Sleeper is the sixth and ADP so it was a little ahead of where he goes. But right after Mike was Bijon and then a'm on Ross. So I'm sitting here at the seventh spot having a decision between Breeze Hall and Marvin Harrison. And at the end of the day, I just like building my teams through wide receivers. I have Marvin a couple of spots, so I think Breecee is gonna kill it this year. And Bets, you have some injury stuff that you've been updating on the website like this just he's set to take off. But when I'm thinking about starting up a team, what I want, I'm gonna take the wide receiver. So Marvin Harrison Junior, Mike's pants are off. My pants are off too, all day.

They've been evaporated since draft day.

Boys paytless for weeks, Like right, yeah, the Breess Hall thing. You know, it's crazy, like we all have that conversation of like he might start slow. They signed Dalvin, but like when he gets going, he's gonna be great. Speaking about last year, and what's crazy is like I even had the thought of, like he crushed what I thought like he could do right, but you looked at his numbers, he was actually still less efficient than he was as a rookie. And now you're like, holy crap, this dude's second year off the ACL is going to be truly insane. So he's gonna be even better I think than he was last year, which is not easy to do so after Rovin Harrison Junior did go Breee, then Tyreek, then Garrett Wilson, who I'm not gonna lie. I was eyeing at this pick. I always in round one, not always, but almost always in round one look for a foundational wide receiver, just someone that's gonna hold value kind of moving forward. I like to build around young wide receivers and dynasty. So I'm going to take Pukinnakua with this pick.

It makes sense. I look at Jason's rankings. He has him as his fit overall player off his board, so he actually has him ahead of Marvin Harrison, ahead of Bijon. So I think Puka we have to throw out whatever draft capital he had, but it makes sense like he's kind of the if you want to go AJ Brown, He's also still on the board, but Puka's kind of next up in line. Betts.

Yeah, I mean just literally have one of the best rookie wide receiver seasons ever. So sign me up on that kind of guy. At the twelve Team twelve took two running backs very high tea approach here, Gibbs and Jonathan Taylor, which means the aforementioned AJ Brown did fall to round two seems like a no brainer selection, you know, as an Eagles fan obviously, but you know, we kind of forget like how good Philly was last year, especially early in the season. Now you get I think an upgrade and play calling scheme with Kellen Moore, he should be there.

A J.

Brown still in his prime quarterback continuity for years, So yeah, give me a J.

Brown.

Also starting to Koua and Brown all right.

Off after AJ Brown was my league neighbors traves etn Patrick Mahomes at the two to five and a one quarterback league guys, is that a bit too early for you for me?

It is? I think it's it's too early for me, not like honestly, not by a ton, because we are we're ripping through like the tier of wide receivers that I want to be my foundational players. So it's not the worst to me as like an egregious overpay, but he would if teammate is right there and wants Mahomes. I don't think he's making it to the three to oh eight, So sometimes you gotta rip the band aid off and make it happen.

I'm kind of deciding between two other wide receivers and a lot of times when you're drafting on a platform for US at sleeper, you can look at the ADP. I find that a lot of Dynasty ADP just feels really off, Like there's no way I could take Sam laporta sixteenth overall that feels like incredibly high for a onesie position in this format, tied in premium. I get it. But I'm deciding between Chris Olave.

Are you even deciding? You you're not deciding?

Okay, Well, the problem is the other player I'm deciding is Drake London. Of course, if I make that pick, then I'm a homer.

So to me, if you don't pick US draft Capital, you're a coward. I mean, I'm not gonna lie. You've been talking, You've been talking about him all off season. I mean, come on, put you moneyway in Mathos Betts.

Did you hear that? So last week y'all talked to trade targets and sounds like your boy was caping for Christopher Olave or sorry, Christian Olave yet again. And he was so convincing that Jason went out in our main Dynasty league and traded Jordan Edison two future firsts for Chris Olave.

Yeah, and you know what, Mike, we talked about Olave and we had kind of all three of the conversation, me, Kyle and Jason, and we were like, you remember Mike's like huge CD Lamb Trede before the season started. At the time, was like, dude, that was a lot to give up, Like, you better hope CD makes an elite jump and if Olave can do that and his numbers as far as his profile say he has that in his range of outcomes. If he does that, the Addison and two first, I think is going to look like an underpay, like a steal at that point, right, So it's you just got to call your shot.

It's it's risky business.

What Jason doesn't realize is that I had a long con working because did I want Chris Olave? I did. We made some offers for him and didn't work out. But the team that he traded with we have their first round pick, so we were just hoping that this team.

Stinks, very sneaky.

So yeah, I mean, it was great to just play Jason just a little puppet master. You know, behind the scenes, he thinks that it was his idea, but we know based on the documentary inception that I did that. Yeah, so yeah, I'm taking Chris A. Lave here obviously, and after Olave is Josh Allen at the two oh seven and then Saquon Barkley at two way And I thought about it, but it's tough for me to draft a running back at this stage of his career in a new spot. I think he'll be fine for twenty twenty four, but uh, that's not how I would build my teams.

Man. So I am in a pickle here in terms. I mean, I guess maybe I can'll end up getting two of these players. We'll see, uh, but guys who I have just very close. So the wide receivers I'm looking at currently would be Jayleen Waddle, Drake London, Brandon Ayuk and then, uh, you know, do you go in on someone like Roma Dunes here of hope that he's a boat essentially as opposed to that we already know like Michael Pittman, DJ Moore, DeVonta Smith. These are great players, but taking the gamble on the rookie here. But anyway, so looking at my rankings, I do have Wattle slightly higher than uh than Drake London, who that's a tough one to go with, though it's nice that he got his money, so he is long term a Miami Dolphin, part of the McDaniel system. Oh man, I'm gonna oh this feels so bad. Guys. I'm gonna take a wide receiver two over Drake London. I'm gonna take Jayalen Wattle.

Love it.

It makes sense. I mean, Wattle, you look at the age and you might be like, Okay, well, London's obviously like forever, like twenty one years old.

It feels like right.

He's kind of like in that Mike Evans vein where it's just like that dude's always going to feel young. But Wattle's in the great spot three three year extension. I totally get it.

Mike on the clock, Sorry I was did I'm sorry I was reading through something, uh for work. Okay, so I'm back on the clock. Brandon, I you came back. Rama Dunza is still there as well. But I'm gonna take.

It.

Look it, I get it. There are some concerns here of Brandon Ayuk. What is the real future for him? Does he resign with the forty nine ers, like does Debo get traded? And Ayuk is the guy does a Yuk get traded and then that's the oh crap, you know what I mean of where does he go? But when you look at what Brandon Ayuk has done, he's really been like incredibly good for fantasy football three of his forty years. It was just the big beginning of year two was something went haywire with him and practice and the coaching staff. But other than that, like his points per game, his rookie season was incredible. Year three and year four fantastic top twenty wide receiver. You can look back and be like, man he was. His efficiency was at a point last year where you can't duplicate that. You go, well, just look at year three. He was almost as good and didn't have the eighteen yards per catch. So I'm gonna take Brandon Ayuke here, all right.

So after Brandon Andy goes Rome Adunesay, who I had next on my board taken from me, and then Isaiah Pacheco, who we talked a couple episodes ago about third year running backs kind of sorted between. But Checko Cook and White like I like Pachecko, I still have such a hard time giving up a third round pick for a player that a year from now is going to be entering a contract situation. So I just I don't know. Do you guys feel the same way about some of these running backs here, Like Kyrone at the two eleven also feels a bit rich.

Kyron at the two eleven feels rich, but that could also be a like if Kyron is anywhere near what he was last year, then he will easily jump into the first I mean, so you're you were taking on some risk, but the upside is you stole a first round startup pick. Almost in the third.

I'm looking at the three zero seven between two more wide receivers. The running backs on the board are fine. Kenneth Walker, Josh Jacobs. Yeah, I feel like Rashad White, James Cook, any of those guys I would be happy with. And so I'm gonna wait and see in the fourth round if they're going to be on the board. There's still more wide receivers at tight end. It is still a waiting game for me. I don't know if you guys feel that way. There's like a tier of McBride, Bowers, Kincaid if you want to wait a little longer, Kelsey Pits and then I know bets is gonna love to hear this, but Mark Andrews is kind of buried in Sleepers rankings. I don't know if you guys can see that, but take advantage.

He's already in the Q.

Oh gotcha, Well you better take him here, my friend. Fiftieth overall is very late compared to our rankings on our site. So you can do that if you want to. You can download ours, You can put them in a spreadsheet if you want, and then compare to other websites and the way that they have stuff if you're drafting. But two wide receivers that I like. One of them I believe is firmly in its prime. Another one we've only seen one season from. It's Nico Collins and DK Metcalf. They would be my wide receiver three or my first flex on this roster.

But I like the youth.

I think with Metcalf, the variable is what is this team going to be beyond this year with Gino Where you look at Collins and it feels a little bit more stable. Diggs could be gone next year. He just got the extension. So I lean Nico Collins here to pair with Harrison and Olave. The lowest of t start.

It's the correct choice. Man.

You love Nico.

Dude, I embraced Nico. I mean, I don't know at what point we started talking about on this show, but I mean early on the season. To me, I get things wrong all the time, but it was like, Dude, Nico looks like he's going to turn into a blue chip player, like from nowhere from your waiver wires to a full blue chip And dude, that's what happened. Man. He finished the season incredible, gets the big money extension. He is. He is firmly in the guys that I want as a foundational wide receiver on my team.

Yah, think too when you look at Jordan Sorry real quick, Kyle about that. You know, they get digs right, And the immediate reaction was like, well, how are they gonna pay all these guys? And within like two weeks they like restructure Diggs contract to the point where he's a free agent next year. And then a few weeks later, now Nico gets the bags. Like the confidence I think in Nico both you know this year, but certainly next year, in the year beyond through the roof. So yeah, he was incredible this past year and I like it. After Nico was sorry, I'm stilling your job here, Kenneth Walker, Jalen Hurts, do it Bets, Josh Shacups, and I'm back on the clock after starting Nikua and aj Brown And I was actually hoping Kyle that you didn't take DK Metcalf because he's gonna be my pick here. I've kind of always been like off and on with Metcalf, where like sometimes I'm like, you know, I don't see it this year. The other years, I'm like, this is it. And I feel like this is one of those years because we finally saw I mean, it took what eight years for it to happen, but finally we saw some decline from Tyler Lockett this past year. Usually when that happens, it doesn't get better the following year or two. And Jsen I've kind of shared my opinions on this show throughout the offseason, like I think he's fine. I think he's still gonna be a good wide receiver, but I don't think he has the ceiling that maybe we thought he had coming out of Ohio State. And I think Metcalf everything points to positive aggression candidates. You could see an explosion here still twenty six years old, but in Dynasty love that. So I'm gonna take TK Metcalf all.

Right, We're gonna take a quick break and we'll be right back with round four. So let's recap everybody's teams through three rounds. And I just want to say this, the three of us have the lowest testosterone levels possible. I mean, just no running backs, oh onesie positions, just all wide receivers. And there are people screaming, just saying, how dare you? I thought this?

Lee?

I thought fantasy football was built on running backs, but so far Mike from the four spot as Jamar Chase, Jalen Wattle, Brandon Ayuk, I have Marvin Harrison, Chris o'lave and Nico Collins, and Bets at the eleven spot as Puka aj Brown and DK Metcalf.

I love all three of these teams, guys.

I know it's looking good. I did want to notice something about the board because we had a lot of running backs so far through three rounds. Go off the board. I was looking at an industry draft that I did where through three rounds they only had six running backs, and I'm counting right now that we have eleven twelve, Like, it's just there's a lot of running backs. So do you feel like that's a bit early from what we usually.

See for a casual league. No, I don't think so. Okay, like the industry best ball it, they're they skew one way and then August rolls around, and the the mon paw leagues that are starting in people's workplaces. Oh it's salt of the earth. Are the people that like make make big fantasy football leagues. Leagues are spinning up in August that are the most casual of the casual and those people like names and they like running backs. So you're like, not not, everyone's as in just living in Google sheets as we are. And so I don't I don't think this is that wild.

Yeah, Bets, you're you're the nerd here just living in the sheets. I'm I am doing this though right now you three are you two? I'm holding the guns like office style, trying to figure out which one of us is going to take a running back first. And so Bets, right here at the four oh two.

You may the low t start couldn't get lower. The answer is yes, we talked about Nico. I'm in love with Tank Dell and I actually took him in our startup that we did with the foot play on the super Flex startup, and someone was like, dude, that is early for Tank, and I do think baseline for like redraft expectations. It might be we just talked about the Digs contract. What he showed as a rookie, as superstar potential Cee de Stroud looks legit right right out of the gate. I mean, give me Tank Dell, who was great as a rookie potential year or two leap and then really a huge ceiling in year three. If Digs does indeed move on.

Okay, I like some Tank Dell. After Tank went Rashad White, Zay Flowers, and James Cook, who was the running back that I had qued up. So I too, am staring at the proposition of do I go even further down the road, knowing that my friend Betts has and that you know, the running backs in the middle of the four DeAndre Swift, Derrick Henry, Joe Mixon, Romandre I just there's just names that I can't do. And at wide receiver, I think this is where it gets a little bit flatter. You know, there's Michael Pittman, DJ Moore, T Higgins, guys that have been established. We believe that Higgins probably gonna get another contract, and then some younger guys Xavier Worthy, Jordan Addison. I look at the rankings and there are some quarterbacks that I also think I can wait on. So for me, it comes down to do I like the young tight ends or do I like Mark Andrews. I think Daltkin Kid and Mark Andrews are the two that I'm deciding between. And when I look at Jason's rankings, I'm certin by Jason's right now. He has Mark Andrews as his thirty fourth overall player. Mike is even high, maybe at his thirtieth. So stealing from my friends, I will be taking Mark Andrews here in the middle of the fourth round rat cause you guys are turns.

Best take of the draft so far.

So you took Mark Mark Andrews and the fourth that's delightful. Brock Bauers goes to Team six and Team five takes Dj Moore. I had a plan, it was in place, and I was ready to execute it to Kyle, but you have ruined it. But Boyce, we're breaking the seal, right, here, I am going to take a running back because I gotta get some testosteron on this team. In ADP wise, you're looking at Swift, Derrick, Henry, Joe Mixon. You read those off, but Johnny Brooks sitting here. Yeah, that's right.

I withheld his name from that list for I.

Know you did because I was like, but look, it's dynasty long term view here. Jonathan Brooks, the first running back drafted this year, probably off to a slow start with the ACL Of course, don't love that he's on the Carolina Panthers, but if he is the player that so many scouts see him being, then look, RB one should be in our RB one season should be in the future for mister Jonathan Brooks. After that, when t Higgins, Dalton Kincaid, Xavier Worthy or Exavier Worthy finished out the round, then we went Michael Pittman, Joe Burrow, and Caleb Williams and I am back on the clock. This is where I was going to take Mark Andrews right in this spot, and it was going to be delicious. But you guys kind of mess that up for me. You have thoughts on that ruining things for me.

I so I had the same thing with Jonathan Brooks, and I think we've talked about him on.

There was no way he was making it back well, just.

An adp in your leagues. He could show up as a fifth, sixth round pick. So I think that's where we have him ranked. And we've said before if he does nothing this year, you know, like he's still gonna hold value. But if he takes over the job, if we think this offense with Dave Canalis moves in the right direction, like he will be worth more next year, I think Jonathan Brooks will be a top five to six running back this time next year.

Startups. So it's like, okay, you.

Can also just bank on you're getting a player that should ascended value. So I like where he's going, but I hate that you took.

Him looking at the tight end position. Travis Kelsey Kyle Pitts are at the top. I I don't have the courage to take Kyle Pitts here for whatever year you're nineteen of Kyle Pitts's career of it's eventually gonna work. So and for me it's like, if I don't take a tight end here, this is going to turn into punt until Jake Ferguson, Evan ingram Or and then probably some some hot senate action at the end to get just a little bit of youth at the position. The running backs don't love him honestly. I mean I could play, like specifically for this year, taking someone like Alvin Kamara, Trey Benson's sort of in consideration. If I had Johnny Brooks Trey Benson, like, that'll be my future. But I'm gonna take someone who I think can be a slate breaker at the quarterback position. I'm gonna take Anthony Richardson, who if things work out, like if he balls out this year, he's a top three fantasy quarterback heading into next year, and get him aut of value here.

I like it. I had Richardson queued up as now do you like where he went compared to some of the other quarterbacks, because like Burrow and Caleb Williams, I personally would take Richardson over them.

Yeah, I would too, it's it's over Burrow is like, it's risky, but I would still prefer to do that. Kayleb Williams, I think is less risk of just having no idea if it's gonna work out. We don't know if it. Richardson's gonna work out, of course, to be fair, but his archtype what he does, even if we have a shorter window where like Joe Burrow, Joe Burrow should play till he's late thirties. He's that type of quarterback where Richardson maybe I don't get that, but it doesn't matter because the impact years will be the Josh Allen level of dominance. For fantasy.

That's where you're hoping that Richardson would make his way back to you.

It was not with high expectations because I knew you would be right on him at this spot too. But yeah, just reference. We have him in the UdK plus as our consensus quarterback seven. He went off the board in this draft quarterback eight. I believe, so a little bit of value there and I have him at four like you dog.

Yeah, I mean we've talked like you just swing for the fences, you call your shot because a year from now you could get one of those seas where he's never going to go back to you know, being someone you could acquire it all in a league. So in this startup draft, it's a five oh seven for me. I have three wide receivers and a tight end. And when I'm thinking about my roster, I'm not just looking at it saying like, Okay, what do I not have? I just think, like, right now, for me, it's best player available, because the running backs, like, I'm sorry, I can't draft Derek here. It just feels so so risky for a player this late. I get the touchdown upside, Remandre, I can't do that either, So I'm actually going to punt the running back position down the hill one more time. And what I'm looking at really is adding another wide receiver because I'm filling out my fourth flex spot with a wide receiver that I think can be a difference maker. I have some young guys, like I think I have enough youth on my team already, so I'm kind of just taking best player available for the shirt short term. I like Debo. I think Diebo is the best of the group here. There's some other guys that are younger that I think might have more upside long term, but it's between Debo and DeVante Adams for me. Oh older guys, I'm going to get that. I know I'm going to go with Deebo here and just say that I'm going to bludgeon my opponents with my wide receivers.

So funny too, is like, you know, when you mentioned those guys names, I was like, Man, I guess Kyle's gonna try to build for when when?

Now?

But I also realized the time when you were talking, there's someone on the board that you know. Kyle and I do a lot of shows together, unfortunately for me, and throughout the offseason, he has really convinced me about a player who I think is more than what the public thinks of him.

Thought about it.

I think George Pickens is like a sneaky good pick right now, like in this in this range is as far as like a dynasty startup target as far as a trade target. Not only let me think about this year and y Arthur Smith is there, and no, the quarterback play isn't incredible, but there's no target competition. His per route numbers have really taken a step forward each season that he's been in the NFL. This could be like a classic year three breakout Pickens almost in the sixth round of a startup. He's young. I'm gonna take him here and continue my low T approach and go five wide receivers to start this draft impressive.

So just for a reference in an industry draft, I just said, George Pickens win at the three four and these are people that is what they do. So I think that's a bit early. So bets you kind of got a value after Pickens was Diggs and Mike Evans, so older guys that I'm assuming we're not on your radar after picking five straight wide receivers, are you ready to break the curse?

Ever draft?

There's something else.

Back in a startup. It couldn't be me so at this spot, in all seriousness, there are a couple I'm considering, Like Mike mentioned Trey Benson, you know, might be a little bit of a slow start, with James Connor who quietly was great last year. You know there in town. There's a couple of other guys that I think could fit if you wanted to take a shot on, you know, a bounce back from Javonte or someone like that. But still to me, it's a little early. There's a great group of wide receivers still available, some bets, you know, like Mark Cooper, Christian Kirk. I think was undervalued all those guys, But I think for me, it's time to go quarterback. And there's a guy that I think this feels early. I'm not gonna lie. It does feel a little early, but relative to where he'll be valued next year, I think Kyler Murray is a guy that I'm tr gonna get startups. Why because he produces fantasy points, Kyle when he starts games. So give me a Kyler qu one. Did you have him in the queue?

I've been in too many basketball Well, yeah, because I have Harrison, So you want to makes sense that you would well, no, no, it makes sense that you would be my friend and let me have this stack.

There's no friends of any football kah correct, you had a chance, but you picked Deebo.

You have regrets.

I think I do have a little bit of regrets because I was setting that up. There's a couple other quarterbacks that had an ADP. Yeah, Kyler is one of those guys. We've talked about a lot of being undervalued, and I just think a lot of people for a while haven't wanted to acquire him at all. Like, I don't want to trade for Kyler. The vibes were bad the year before he was injured, and yet like I love where he's going in this draft, the fifth sixth round is a place where you can target him and kind of set and forget it like you have a quarterback one for the next four or five years probably, So yeah, I do have some regrets there. I will, however, I waited on a running back. I'm gonna go for some youths. So you did not give me my Cardinals stack with my quarterback and wide receiver. But we know that buying into teams and good teams is what I want to do. So Trey Benson, I think this offense is going to be really good in the future. So he's the next running back on my board. At the six six.

Trey Benson was likely going to be the pick for me. So Trey Benson goes. Then Brian Thomas, Lad McConkey. We've got a little The rookie wide receivers have started to fly off the board. If when I'm looking at the running back spot, Kyle, where are you with the rumblings of a Remandre Stevenson extension extension? Are we taking the l already on our anti Remandre season?

I am shook it. I'll say that because I've been getting tagged a lot saying you told me to draft Antonio Gibson in Best Ball, and it's like in Best Ball, I can at least say like, oh yea, yeah, it doesn't matter. He's a late pick. But Remandre, would you guys say so far? I know it's just like photos he looks good like spelt.

Yeah he does, he does. He's in tract fluctuation. It's it's it's all the contract, like if even with everything that's go, all the rumors and stuff that are happening right now, because the the belief in the reason to draft super late Antonio Gibson is just you're not sure that it will be Remandre all year and he feels like a guy who could lose his job. Remondre getting a contract extension, of getting some guaranteed millies in there time makes it a little more difficult, a little more difficult there.

Yeah, it's it's weird new you know, new offensive staff here do Rodmeo's defensive guy, and so Alex van Pelt his scheme is different than what Remandre has been running. So that's that's what's interesting. But also Remandre is older than Gibson, he's twenty six. It just feels like a weird time to give an extension, but hey, not an NFL GM. I'll take the loss if reminders the guy, it's just like, hey, didn't work.

Out well on real quick the reminder stuff like if he does get this extension in the next few days or weeks, I mean, what an unbelievable time to trade him away in dynasty if you have him, you can just mentioned twenty six years old and he's gonna be starting his second contract, so I can't imagine there's a lot of guaranteed money like beyond twenty twenty, you know, two years basically in a deal, and you mentioned it already. Man, running backs on projected bad teams generally don't give you any ceiling whatsoever. The sports books project the Pats to win four and a half games this year. It's the worst in the league. So if he does sign the extension, I have him anywhere, great time to put him on your trade block.

So for the actual pick here, JSN is still around, Rashi Rice, who who knows? We need the NFL to get on on top of this and just clarify the situation for us, like, let us know what's gonna happen, because if it's, oh, hey, Rice, we got a four game suspension here. Rashie Rice feels like a great pick here. But if you get a huge suspension and they're like he's on thin ice, then you're out of you know what I mean. I'd like that to be settled. So honestly, I'm looking at I'm looking at jas N, and I'm looking at Jayden Reid. I still I still believe in the ceiling for Jackson Smith and Jigba. I don't know what the true ceiling for Jayden Reid is. I think he'll be a solid compliment to a Dynasty roster for a while, but I just can he actually have like a breakout campaign where you're like, oh, look at this top fifteen wide receiver, where I still think that jays N can do that, I'm gonna take Jason.

I get.

Yeah, it feels bad. It didn't. It did not feel good. It feels especially with the running back run that just happened, feels even worse.

Do you guys feel like it's tough And maybe I'm the only person out there, but you're listening where you're building your team, you're in a startup draft and you're like, Okay, I'm trying to find this blend of I can win because we're not just playing for four years from now, we're playing for right now. But also like, okay, well I want to find some values of guys that are young and that could It's like the same thing with Bets. With Pickens, it's like young enough, he's super young and yet not totally there. So you're kind of asking yourself the question as you're drafting with wide receivers, like, am I getting the best of both worlds? Am I going to get production and youth? I remember years and years ago in a startup, taking Corey Coleman after like his first year where he did nothing. I was like, I'm getting a value. He's young. They told me to build this way and I never got it, And so you just end up taking shots at wide receivers sometimes that every year you're kind of like trying to figure it out. So JSN, I'm assuming Mike, You're just like, I hope it works out.

Yeah, pretty much.

And I mentioned too, like I'm worried about just what we thought he you know, rewind a year ago, where like this dude could be a top ten receiver in the league. That's still possible. Just the probability is not what it was, you know, a year ago. So like, could he be a wide receiver two for fantasy? Sure, and that's good. You need that obviously, right, So it's a different conversation in terms of like where you think the ceiling out come is. But like, if JSN is a wide receiver two for your dnasty team for three years, beautiful, you'll take.

That, right, all right? So after I took Jayson went Rimandre Stevenson, he finally went off the board, Javonte Williams, TJ. Howkinson, David Montgomery, who I think was actually gonna be my target. So I'm a little bit bummed that I played that game and and Montgomery did not make it back, Tony Pollard, and then there's Rashi Rice. So at the running back position, I it's it's a pickle because Alvin Kamara most likely to get helped me win this year, maybe next year. I just took a peek at the contract, and while next year the dead cap according to spotrack, we're still looking at over ten million, but his cap hit is twenty nine million dollars, So it's there will be a rubber meeting the road next year for Alvin Kamara of they got to extend him or you know, figure out how to disperse some of this cap or just eat ten million of dead cap. I'm not sure which way they're going to go. Do you guys have a gut reaction to that?

I don't. I mean I wish every year Kyle. Every year I look at his contract and I think it's gonna be the next year. And every year I've been wrong.

The Saints every awesome, but it's every off season. But the Saints, it's like, how are they going to make this work up? They figured it out? Yeah, I don't have a great read. You can see, like late in the career, if he does have a down year, another efficiency y season, or maybe he has a couple injuries here there, like you could see him and the team maybe come to an agreement on restructuring that deal potentially. But yeah, I think the writing's on the wall that the ended of his time in New Orleans is coming sooner than later.

So Jayden Reid did make it back to me. I hate the idea of taking an old running back, like it's like Alvin Kamara take the gamble on Nagy. Aaron Jones is like he is at the age, Cliff, But I so the idea of passing on a on a year two wide receiver for those guys, it feels pretty. That feels too bad. I can't do it, guys, I can't do it. I'm taking Jayden Reid. I can't do it. I can't talk myself into that RB two yet I figured it out.

Yeah, now I think Jayden Reid, I think is where he should go. But it doesn't feel good, like there's still so many things up in the air. We've talked about the efficiency of that team, you know, per touch, he was just off the chart. So Jordan Reid, why why draft.

Jayden Reid here where you can just get don Tavian Wicks with your last pick.

Hey, you're not according to everybody, and Mike, I don't know if you Saard, I just gave a Jordan Reid shout out instead of.

Oh I did not. I apologize as I was talking over it.

Well, I realized that Jaden Reid and Jordan Love went right next to each other, so I just combined them and then Cooper Cup. So I'm on the clock, and I am really really I took what you said about Alvin Kamara and I thought about it, and I thought about some more, and I want to think about it during this last break. We're in the seventh round, and just to recap everyone's teams, Mike started off with Jamar Chase, Jalen Wattle, Brandon Niyuk. He has Jsin and Jayden Reid as his wide receivers. He has one running back, Jonathan Brooks, and then he has Anthony richardson My team also incredibly low t have four wide receivers, Marvin Harrison, Chris Olave, Nico Collins, Deebo Samuel. I took Trey Benson as my first running back off the board in sixth round, and then of course I have Mark Andrews bets. You also decided that you did not want running backs at all. They don't score points in this league. Apparently that's how we structured it. Pooka, AJ Brown, DK Metcalf, Tank Dell, George Pickens, and Kyler Murray. I like Alvin Kamara at the spot. I do look at my team, looking at and seeing what I have. Chris o'lave doubling up the Saints feels kind of risky, but my team is in win now MO with some of these guys, I'm just gonna take Kamara as the best white running back off the board. I don't like any of these other guys right here, so I feel like I'm gonna I just have way more testosterone than you guys. My second running back.

I get it. I get it. Man, good for you that look at that thick hair.

Next off the board was Najie Harris, who I can't fathom taking him unless he falls to any further. David and Joku and Justin Herbert. Imagine that Justin Herbert in this late seventh round of a startup. If I told you that two years ago, you'd laugh at me. So bets your out.

Yeah, really good value, I think on Herbert, which is kind of wild considering what's happened since last year. But it's it's such a tough spot, like this is kind of no man's land. It feels like where you could talk me into anybody here. There's like ten guys. I'd be like, that makes sense, clearly I need a running back, But man, this tier running backs like. Listen to the names. It's like Zamir White, Aaron Jones, Taj Spears, Jillen Moore, and Brian Robinson. You know, it's like these are kind of all valued the same, and I don't have a great strong take on a lot of these guys.

Which they one should be bets, but I just want to mention because this is the type of show we're on. Have you guys heard Antonio Peers talking about Zamir White? I have, And look, coach speak is incredibly dangerous. We always we talk about it every year, like how do you filter it? It's extremely difficult. When you hear something positive about a player, negative about a player feels far more impactful, which to me, I guess it is a bit of a double because the sentiment all on Alexander Madison, the way that Antonio Pearce was talking about him was like this, he's a depth player. And then the way that he's been talking about Samir White has been like be careful, be careful here, because it's hard not to get steamed up by what Antonio Pierce is saying.

Yeah, he's he's such a tough you call your shot, right, He's such a tough evaluation because like, yeah, I mean I don't remember how I felt or kind of what a lot of our metrics said coming out of college truthfully, because it was what three years ago at this point of like, how was he valued as a prospect. I don't think it was super highly. Obviously it was okay, it was it was okay. But I also looked back to last year and it's like, I forget I saw it on Twitter somewhere someone listened to all the quarterbacks that the Raiders face down the stretch and you know, they had like the Mahomes Christmas game, which was very fluky, but it was like East and Stick and you know, you name it, basically down down, down the stretch.

It was.

It was the boys, as Kyle would say, they weren't great, and so you could see a posse the game script where it's like, yeah, we do actually want to feed him twenty touches every game. The issue is like if they fall behind, you probably can't do that. So he's I don't have a take either way. I wish someone else did, but he's so tough. You know, me and Antonio Pierce not cut from the same cloth. I'm gonna go again, no running backs for this pic. I've been talking about it, man, I'm just feeling the team. I'm the team that probably won't win this year. But man, I'm building a foundation and that's how I do startups. I've been talking about Christian Kirk all off season. I think he's incredibly undervalue to it. He's going to give you wide receiver two numbers. Yet he goes in a range where it's like, yeah, he's been around the block for a while, we know what he is. He's old, but he's not. He's still in his prime. Give me Christian Kirk.

I get it. I had him queued up. There are some wide receivers here that can give you production this year. So Terry McLaurin just went off the board, Amari Cooper is still on the board, and then Zamir White just went at the eight oh one, So you're back on the clock. Eight oh two.

All right, eight o two. It's time. It's time to running back at Mike just because no, I'm kidding, I'm gonna take a guy that I believe in for this year. So this is kind of a guy that fits nicely. But also like a lot of the stuff out of Pittsburgh is like, we're gonna wait and see what happens this year, and if Nase Who's Fantasy points per game opportunities per game snap rate every year has declined, continues to be inefficient, and this team says Jalen Morren can be the dude. He could see a massive spiking value. So I love him for this year, but I think he has potential beyond this year too.

I don't mind that because my initial reaction is I still think naj Is is the guy for them this year. But just taking a you know a little more zoomed out where because both of these guys, Jalen Warren Naji Harris neither has a contract for next year because they want to see who fits the system. If Jalen Warren wins that like just that's a big if. But if he does and Mike tom would goes back to being a one running back guy, I mean, his value would skyrocket. I don't know how long Jalen Warren could do that? Is it? He's a bit older, isn't he?

Yeah, undrafted free agent and then his contract is different than what you would normally feel fair.

How old is he? Think?

He's twenty five.

Twenty five point six, so attorney twenty six this year, but I just mean, like twenty seven is that age where I'm a little starting to get worried on running backs. But that's it's an interesting gamble at this point.

Yeah, I liked it. I had him qued up as the next running back that I was interested in. We are in the eighth round, so after that when Cooper, Aaron Jones, Chris Godwin, and I'm in a bit of a pickle because I don't have a quarterback, my favorite player on the board as a quarterback. Everybody else already has a quarterback. So we're in a one quarterback league. And I typically could look at this and say.

That's a dangerous game on these sleeper marks.

Man, I know, and you know what I would rather take. It's more of like a feeling of like loss. I would feel so bad if I didn't get this player, even though everybody else already has a quarterback. I think that Jane Daniels could break fantasy. I'm not saying you will, but I'd rather have him on this roster, and I can't pare him with somebody else later and kind of like figure it out. But Jane Daniels right here, I think this is an appropriate spot for him as my quarterback in a one quarterback So Jane Daniels at eight oh six. Then went Taji Spears and Nick Chubb. Mike is back on the clock, so.

Nita running back to and of course some depth, but just really you want to have two at least startable guys. Meanwhile, at the wide receiver position, it's like the rookies at night. Mitchell, Xavier Lee, get Ricky Piersall is here. Do I just Todd like hits my wagon, go full, Kyle Shanahan, give me all of that offense. But you know it's it's that tier of guys. The running backs are who brother like James Connor. Maybe James Connor could get me through the season. Do I You can bet against Kenneth Walker with Zack Zach Charbonnay, which Charbonney was not very good last year. But we're in the eighth and I feel pretty solid about the foundation. So I'm gonna take a a perceived one year rental, which that's it's an expensive one year rental for the for an eighth round pick. But I'm gonna take Zach Moss and believe that he ends up as the guy for the Bengals for maybe two years, but at least this year, and then I'll build some younger guys as my you know, like build up the farm with some younger rookie running backs as the draft goes along. But Jonathan Brooks Zach Moss as my two starters projected starters for this year.

All right after that went Christian Watson, who I think a wild card player if he stays in the field, Ricky Piersall at the eight to eleven Blake Korum, and then the ninth round went Adenni Mitchell Zabella get and then the goat Keenan Allen, Mike, you are back on the clock at nine oh.

Four, So I'm gonna peek at the tight ends real quick. George Kittle is there. I think that's interesting that. But Jake Ferguson, Evan Ingram Are They're both still on the board. Tears getting a little thin, So that is definitely there is some risk involved, but I'm gonna I'm gonna buy a pass. I'm gonna let it ride. So trying to look at younger running backs, Kendre Miller is on the board, Marshawn Lloyd, I think those guys Jalen Wright to yeah, no, Marshaon Lloyd and Kendre Miller those were the I'm gonna pick between one of those two guys, and we just gave the Kamara speech of his contract. Marshaon Lloyd could end up being the starter for the Green Bay Packers next year, which one is more likely? Mhm, I don't know if the starting job is more likely for Oh my gosh, where do you get guys that helped me out here? Marshall Luyter, Kendre Miller. Who do you guys like more?

You should pick neither of them, neither of.

Whoever to Kyle didn't takes.

I'm gonna take one of them, and I'm gonna go Kendre Miller. I just I liked him as a prospect so so much, and betting on that Kamara's time, it's that's a tough bet, but I'll go Kendra.

Yeah. So my issue when I was looking at my team is that the running backs that were next on the board were James Connor and Kendre Miller.

Oh your compliments?

Well, yeah, And I think a lot of times people say like, is it good to lock up the backfield? And at certain points of the season, I think it would be great to be able to say I have the Cardinals backfield, or I have the Saints backfield. I really have way too many Saints on this team. But in terms of upside, I kind of want one of them to hit, and maybe it's a backfield that can support too. But you made the decision easier for me. So Marshall Lloyd is the higher upside play. If I were to pick between the two, I like Kendre Miller a lot, but Packers offense is definitely one that I want to buy into. Do you guys feel so I took Lloyd here? Then it was James Connor, then Hollywood Brown, then Evan Ingram. Oh, neither of you guys have tight ends?

Are you? Like?

How are you feeling it so great? No, Kyle, I'm terrified, really, But I mean there's there's always the tight end one in Dynasty that's still available. They're just gonna be which one of go in on our king the Senator.

Yeah, that's true, that's true. Nine to eleven, that's you, bets.

At the nine to eleven. I'm gonna take a running back that feels quite gross. I'm not going to lie to you. However, the theme of the running backs in this range both for like redraft and dynasty circles. Is like, if the guy in front of them truly has lost a step or is just done, the backup is going to look like an insane value. And to me, Ausneckler's the dude. But last year was horrific. And Brian Robinson, say what you want about the talent, his profile coming out of school, all those things has just been productive since he's been in the NFL. And we know with Cliff when they getting close, they're going to pound the rock and run the football. I don't know if it's gonna be Robinson. I don't know if it's gonna be cler That's going to be one of those things we got to sort out this offseason. But I'll take Brian Robinson here, you know, back of the ninth round, almost tenth round, entering his third year, seems like a decent value to me.

Yeah, the least sexy pick you can take. But when you need an RB two, I mean.

Me Christian Kirk, Brian Robinson, I mean the trio of just the sexy picks you can make.

After him, went Zach Sharbonay, who is kind of on my radars, like, Okay, here's a running back. I could take in this range Brock Purdy at the ten oh one, back on the clock at ten oh two.

Oof, this is getting rough. No tight ends that I'm really even considering. I mean, the guys that are here, like Comet, Goddard, Schultz, Benson that we talked about. I think those guys are all fine, but no one that really makes a difference wide receiver. You know, there's some guys that I think are interesting, that are talented, like Calvin Ridley, Deontay Johnson. Yeah, certainly I think viable with this pick if you want some youth, Troy Franklin. But I'm gonna keep the running back train rolling here. And you know, this pick does feel early based off ADP, but I don't think he's coming back to me. If I don't snag him here, I'm gonna take Jerome Ford in the tenth round.

Who oh, I just started.

Sorry, man, I could see I saw you cute him. You know, with Jerome Ford, the story is like his ADPU obviously be much higher if it wasn't for the Nick Chubb uncertainty. But I'm calling my shot. I don't think he returns the form. You know, Ford has been with the team for a while. He's spent the team for years, and he's been productive when he's got an opportunity. So Jerome Ford's valued beyond this year. Next year, no idea, but for this year on this build a ton of sense.

Right now. There are a couple of other running backs that are starting running backs in the NFL that you can get in the tenth eleventh round. So I'm deciding between Devin Singletary who just got a contract, Rahiem Mostert who just got a contract, and Gus Edwards who just got a contract, and those three I think all are very helpful for a win now. And on my team, they're my fourth running back drafted, so a little bit older. And I'm kind of weighing between these teams, Like Singletary got the most money guaranteed, but it's the worst team. I look at Gus Edwards and I look at how awesome Moster was the RB two overall, I have such an affinity for the Chargers. I'm gonna go with the Gus Buss here. I just I want touchdowns, I want a good offense. I want a team with the nine and a half win total, And I could start him as an RB two this year, so Gus Edwards at the ten oh six.

I think Gus Edwards probably would have been my pick. Is I mean, you talk about a rental Raheem Moster, that feels for sure like this is, I've got one year here for Raheem to be part of a championship run in the tenth round. Uh shoot uh. And then like Moster versus Singletary is brutal because it's single. Singletary should have some time left and Moster it looks like he's a one year guy. Okay, so let's just peak peak at the tight ends ADP wise, it's the the tier of guys who I was looking at. They are all gone. So it's Cole Comet, Dallas Goddard, Dalton Schultz, Pat Fryer, muth Isaiah Likelely, the Senator, Luke Musgrave. And then you know, of course the rookies and things are there. So it's pretty dire over there. You're just gonna be patchworking a couple points together on the every single week, hoping that you get a hit. And then at the wide receiver position, guys, Jamison Williams, aren't you Jamison Williams.

Guys, couldn't be me I didn't listen last week's show.

I didn't, guys.

I was who's my trade away target?

Yeh?

Or trade away candidate?

Okay, we were not super kind and and it could still work.

Okay for someone.

That's the fifth likely in targets on his own team.

Oh goodness, I'm sorry for holding this up here, but this is rough. Uh. So I got Jonathan Brooks, Zach Moss, Kendriy Miller for the like and at the wide receiver position it's super stacked, and Anthony Richardson at the quarterback. So this is a team that I would be. My chips are going to go all in for this year. So I'm gonna take Raheem Moster for the This will cover me for while Jonathan Brooks is healing up. Oh it's some more tight ends, went guys.

Good? Yeah, after Mike Win, Jamison Williams, Devin Single Tear, Josh Downs, Trevor Lawrence. So Mike, you didn't have the chance. Mike, take your boys, Trevor Lawrence and then the doctor and Dallas Goddard. So the tight end room is pretty barren. Kate Awten is looking better and better every single day.

I do have my eye on somebody, but I don't want Bets to be the wiser to what's going on there. So at the widers, man, I'm party back up. Troy Franklin's at the top. Eh uh, Hopkins. Then maybe the younger guys like Jalen Polk, Roman Wilson. Wow, we are, We're here, but we're getting nasty. We have arrived. Oh my goodness gracious. And you know what I'm going to do though, I'm gonna peek over here at the quarterback position.

It is.

It is a dynasty. Don't want to be don't want to be trapped without a QB two Which Tua is there? Take the risk or the upside? Pick on JJ McCarthy or my guy Jared Goff. He's just he's just sitting there. I did. He's a he's a very large individual. But you have one thing going for you. If you're trying to get Jared Goff, Kyle, I have Jalen Wattle. So I'm gonna take Tua. I'm gonna take a backup stack. Nice to have in my in my back pocket.

Speaking of stack, I've just been biding my time with my Jade Daniels pick saying, you know what, I'll leave the light on for Johan Dotson. He's down there in the rankings. He goes the pick right.

Before Oh, do you got saved? Saved?

Maybe? But I felt really good about saying, this is a stack that I got late. Could it work out? Maybe? No, Man, that was gonna be a fun, fun pick for me to just say. If it happens, it happens. As my wide receiver. Five, I have built up my team with some running backs, so I have some youth in Benson and Lloyd and some old farts and Kamara and Gus Edwards. So feeling pretty good there. I'm kind of interested in Chase Brown as another high upside player going into year two. Maybe he takes over the position wide receivers feel pretty flat, and then at quarterback if Daniels is just terrible, I do feel like there are some other guys that I can kind of plug the hole with. Jared Goff is my favorite. He just got the extension.

Man.

Oh man, I can't. I can't take a falcon look at me. Can't do that. I'm just gonna play it safe here and say that Jared Goff, even in a one quarterback league, feels like I can piece together between Daniels and Golf.

I like it. That's that's the pick I would have made. I would have done that.

Yep. After that as Cole Comet, Chase Brown and JJ McCarthy, so bets you're up at the eleven eleven.

Yeah, I feel like with my wide receiver corps or I can take some shots on youth and see if I can hit on a late round gem. And to me, jellen Polk's a guy that you know, the Patriots have some issues, but I like Drake may Man and jelen Polk was taking what thirty fifth overall or something like that, and no one cares. Everyone just like dismissing it. I think he's a value, it's low risk at this point in the draft. So in the eleventh round, give me jaellen Polk.

Yeah, and we're gonna go a little faster through these last couple of picks just because, uh tell me, Oh, I'll tell you. And then we're gonna post this online. So for everybody, if you're like, hey, you didn't go through everything on the podcast, we will make sure that everything is posted the Fantasy Footballers dot Com. After that, Jerry Judy, Romeo Dobbs back on the clock at the UH twelve O two.

I mean, is there any question who this selection is going to be, Kyle, It's very obvious that Ben Sinnett. Come on down, baby, it's all for round the senator.

Timeck Yice.

Okay, so you two are riding so dirty that you are depending on someone that we love for this podcast. Don't get me wrong, But honestly, do you guys feel okay that your tight a position?

Yes?

I mean you're not going to start, Ben, But listen, this is a startup, right, So like when I get the eventual tight end one in Dynasty in two years and I can plug in Hunter Henry when I snag him in the eighteenth round, It's all good, Kyle, It's all good.

So it definitely feels like the fact that George Kittle Ferguson Ingram went just like in a stretch hurt and I was just really hoping one of them made it back to me that was a calculated risk that that feels not great. But there's still a couple of players on the board who actually I have my eye on I think are startable this year.

Okay, well, I'm looking for upside here.

But Jed look, guys, I am setting my feelings on ben Son. It are known, but I am like, if you're rolling in as he's your tight end one for the season and you of really no other options, that's gonna be brutal.

Yeah, I'm I mean, the only other Titans that I would feel excited about to start, Like the youth is still on the board. Likely is a fun upside pick, but you're not starting him, and then Musgrave is fine. But yeah, it's pretty rough right here. I'm gonna shoot for upside a player that I believe in. I don't know if you guys do. It was a third round pick, but apparently you guys have bespirched him. It's Jermaine Burton. I just picked that because I wanted to shove here.

Mike and I are the co presidents of the Jermaine Burton Fan Club, and you've been a hater all off season. To get out of here, dude.

I don't even care if he's good. He's my wide receiver six right five whatever.

I had just starred him. Uh, I am not gonna mess around and find out. So we're gonna we're gonna start this party here with Pat Fryer youth guys and will go a few.

I really thought about taking it, just to make sure that you feel terrible. But after that was Drake May, Tyler all Year, Luke Musgrave Cuba, and then Jacobe Myers, who I like is the thirteenth round pick here, I think that's solid. Khalil Shakir and Mike back on the clock in the thirteenth round.

All right, the wide receivers at least ADP wise, we're looking at Malchi quarterly rookie for the Jets, Gabe Davis. Look who did just get the bag? You know, Tyler Lockett, maybe you can get sunsets some years there, Dontavian Wicks. Everyone seems to be late round Darling of the Green Bay Packers running back. My team still doesn't feel secure. Feels like it would be nice to get some some high upside shots here that could turn into something. And honestly, I'm looking at Braylan Allen, the rookie backup behind Bryce hall Lot. I think Braylan Allen should brees Aw miss time. I think Brayleen Allen will just he'll be the hulk. I think he'll be very good. But that is a player who is he's trapped. He is trapped behind a superstar, not trapped behind a superstar, and the news of splitting time it just keeps growing. I'm gonna take ty Chandler of the Minnesota Vikings, who I think could be in a full fifty to fifty with Aaron Jones, if not slightly ahead of Aaron Jones by the end of the year.

Yeah, I like it a lot. JK. Dobbins went next, then Ezekiel Elliott. I'm just throwing darts at running backs at this point. So I, like Gibson, would you consider.

Going Isaiah like speaking of locking the thing up of like Isaiah likely is he have value to you? Here? You have Mark Andrews. So in the middle of the thirteenth of knowing that if, like you, if Mark Andrews goes down, it's not just a well I have sort of a replacement level. You have a guy at least last year or really all the time that we've seen Isaiah Likely in for Mark Andrews, he's been great. Yeah.

I thought about him in the youth right there in the twelfth round. As you know, I get in a league like this where you're starting one tight end, you're just saying yourself like, uh, I've got my guy. I don't really need to worry about it. But yeah, I mean I like both those options, Like I would feel great starting the youth, Like it can work in the league. He can give you tight en eight nine numbers on a good right and likely when he stepped in has been giving you, you know, ten plus PPR points when he gets the start. So I like that move a lot. I'm just at a point now where I'm just gonna keep trying with running backs. I'm gonna go a little bit deeper and go with Kimani Vadell, the sixth round pick of the Chargers. I get it. These Day three picks don't work, but this time it work.

It's so the Chargers situation is so ridiculous because it is literally three players that it should not work for any of them, any of them. Gus Edwards old never been a starting running back in his entire career. JK. Dobbins coming off of the most catastrophic injury that a running back can get that we know of right now, and then a Day three late pick. It should not work for anybody there. I just want that on record. I'm not supposed to.

I get it. And so my strategy is I'm gonna throw a couple and bet against Dobbins as being the one that I'm betting against, and I have Gus and Ridell and then bets. You are up after me, went Lockett, Kirk Cousins, Luke McCaffrey, and you're on the clock for the thirteen eleven and then you'll have your final pick for the podcast after that.

Yeah, thirteenth round to me is just like best player available, Let's let's see what happens. I think Rashid Shaheed can play man and the back of the thirteenth round, why not.

Hey, you always are a stand for Rashid Shaheed and I respect that. I respect you at some.

Point, Kyle, I really appreciate that after Shahied it was everyone's favorite receiver currently D'antavian Wicks, who that four hundred yards and four touchdowns this year is gonna look sweet when that happens, Keaton Mitchell.

After that, I've been being being jocular about Dan Davian Wicks, but I do like I'm going to me too. I was a he can play with the he can play and what it what it still costs despite like, if you're on Twitter, you're in it. Despite what we're all our propaganda for Dantavian Wicks, is is furious and it's out there. He's still there're going like a thirteenth round or in a in a dynasty startup, you could trade for him cheap for I would think in most leagues. Is I just wanted out there that we actually do Like.

No, definitely, Okay, this team needs running backs, man, and the fourteenth round. If this doesn't work out whatever, you're just finding out, Kyle. There's plenty of guys here. I'm excited to start. Okay, I'm kidding. I don't know who's starting for Dallas, but what if it's Rico Dabdle. I mean the fourteenth round, I'll find out out.

Dude, you're you're speaking my language now.

Hey, Zeke was terrible last year. I mean he was actually good for fantasy. But just like the years have gone by and we've seen it, but that's like, that's.

The problem is you look at the fantasy numbers and you go, oh, no, he he still had it. No man, no he it was brutal.

Guys. I already have it queued up and ready to send out for week seven. It's gonna say, did you know that Ezekiel Elliott had as many touchdowns combined through seven weeks as all these running I mean, that's that's it's probably gonna have to schedule. I should, I should send it out. Gibson went next to save me from taking him. Uh, Jatavian Sanders, Gabe Davis, there are. I can't take Kate Aughton because I know he'll fall to me no matter what. Eventually, I'm going to think about another tight end. But I'm just gonna go upside, take another wide receiver here and just hope and pray that Twitter knows something more than Sean Payton. I'm gonna take Marvin Mims. Oh yeah, shoot for the moon.

Yeah, why not? All right?

My glass pick for this podcast and we'll post the rest online.

All right. So, oh so we're gonna finish it out the draft for just we got to cut it for the yeah kids, Okay, Okay, that's good. Joshua Palmer right here, I think is a is a fine value pick. I don't know if you have a long term player with Joshua Palmer, but he could definitely be the He could be the guy let's see. So I got Jamar, Chase Waddle, Ayuk js and Jaden Reid. I mean that's that's a pretty strong group that if someone like Joshua Palmer it would be that would be a break glass in case of emergency situation. So the other, the other running back who I thought had some value came back. I'm gonna take Braylan Allen as a pure insurance insurance running back for Breese Hall. But should they have to break the glass, I think that Allen gets it done. Yep.

I agree, all right, that's gonna be it. Through fourteen rounds. We're gonna quickly recap our teams. Mike, why don't you start us.

Off at the wide receiver position Jamar Chase, Jalen Waddle, Brandon Ayuk, Jackson Smith, and Jigba Jayden Reid at running back. My RB one is Jonathan Brooks. Then it's a hodgepodge of Zach Moss, Kendry Miller, Raheem Moster, Ty Chandler, Braylan Allen. So far quarterback Anthony Richardson, and I got Tua as my backup, and then the youth is currently sitting as my only tight end. Like it's it's earlier than I was gonna do it, but I will. I'm gonna give the podcast here one more little bonus pick again. This is I would have. I think I could have waited at least around maybe two rounds the flowing locks of mister Greg Dolcich of the Denver Broncos. I think there's a chance this is a sleeping giant waiting to erupt come next year.

Oh, there are some Greg d truthers, and they are pretty much right here, very excited.

It is the three of us.

I loved buying him on the cheap this offseason. We'll see what happens, all right. My team, my wide receivers are Marvin Harrison Junior, Chris Olave I could log out. I mean, that's the best start ever, Nico Collins, Deebo, Samuel Jermaine Burton, Marvin Mims Junior. I took Mark Andrews early as my tight end at running back. I have Trey Benson, Alvin Kamara, Marshaun Lloyd, Gus Edwards, Kamani Vidal, and then I took Jayden Daniels and Jared Goff to kind of piece together my quarterback. I waited the longest of anybody else.

And for me, I've got Kyler at quarterback. I've got an elite running back room. Featured by Jalen Warren, Brian Robinson, Jerome Ford, and Rico Dawdell. Game of State. It was fat Face a wide receiver, Puca, AJ Brown, DK Metcalf, Tank Dell, George Pickens, Christian Kirk, Jalen Polk and Rashi Shahid and ats tight end. It is not going to be pretty right away, but I've got Ben Sinnett.

Do you feel like you took one TONI wide receivers?

No, in startups, just give me the best player available within reason, Like once you get to a certain point, it's like, all right, it's time to take a running back here. But I just the way that I draft startups is I want the best players available. But the guys are going to hold their value this year, next year and hopefully the year after, and like my first six, seven, eight picks should be those guys. And that's what That's how I feel about the guys that I took.

So if you've made it this far into the pod and number one, congratulations, But a piece of strategy which I guess it's one of those like you know it, but it's I've been thinking about a lot more of formula, formulating it into just actually like can talk about it. Is every every team in a dynasty league. Yeah not Look, every once in a while you get a juggernaut. It happens. But for the most part, every single team will have a weakness. And I I'm more on the side of Betts's approach of like, I know exactly where my weakness is going to be, I'm gonna funnel it to that direction, so I know exactly where I have to repair and I can focus on that. Meanwhile, my strengths, like the three other walls of my house are rock solid, they aren't just like all my walls are pretty good. I have four pretty good walls. Like no, I have three brick walls, and then I got one made of sticks. But I know where it is. You know what I mean of, Like, I think that's a better way of building building your dynasty team is don't just have some don't be moderate every single place. I don't think. I don't think the pure balance approach is the way to go.

Yeah, and you look at all these teams that are in this and anybody in your league, like there's going to be weak points right after the draft. It's just it's going to happen. And so running backs usually is the part where it's like you kind of are scrapping and claw, and all three of our teams are really doing that. Like I can't count on Benson right away. I mean, same thing with Brooks, Like all of us are a bit deficient in that area, and that's totally fine. I think where we leaned into is saying young wide receivers and then our flex spot, Like our two flex spots feel stronger than some of these other options where you know, sorry teammate, but DeVante Adams and Chris Godwin feel a little bit deficient and they will be in a year or two because those the starting wide receivers. But yeah, there's different approaches. We have lots of stuff on the website about strategy dynasty tips that are in the Ultimate Draft Kit, plus you can get all of those at Ultimate draftkit dot com. That's gonna do it for this episode, our Dynasty startup mock, and we will talk to you again next week.

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