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Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Dynasty Podcast with Borg Bets and a baller.
Welcome in.
It's post NFL Draft on the Fantasy Footballers Dynasty Podcast. It's a full house today. I'm Kyle Worganoni and I'm joined by Matthew Betts, Mike Wright, and Jason Moore.
Got the whole team today because it's a big day. The draft has happened. This is our time to shine. Dinah Squad had to assemble the first.
Ever for Man Dynasty show today on the show.
Yeah, I bet Kyle has records. I have to.
I have to jump into your bets because I wouldn't be me. We did this a year ago. People, the four of us on this exact exact.
Show really apparently good. Quickly we forget we are goldfish. Thank you Kyle for being an elephant.
That is true. I feel like it's Mike and I's job just to help anybody remember anything this company, It is what they did, where we are, what part of the year we're in. I mean, honestly, it's.
It's gonna be May. It's it already is, but all out.
When they're hearing this, it will be May first, and it will be a grand old time because in your ears, we're gonna be doing a rookie mock draft. We're gonna be going two rounds.
It's a grand old time in your ears. That's what the show things people have never said.
I've heard Kyle said said that like the grand old Opry right, and then like old time for your ears, I went to grand Old flag right.
Oh what a bop that people are still definitely singing all the time.
When you said those words, I was like, what are you talking? You know, I know what you're saying it, but I don't think like I don't think I knew exactly America.
Uh, you're not wrong, still as America still here Dynasty podcast people. And it's been a whirlwind weekend on a couple of different levels. Okay, I'm kind of glad because we're gonna do a two round mok which means we will not be talking about Michael Pennock Junior. I can tell you right now, unless you guys.
You think we're not going to bring them up. Kyle is just look like you just look what you just did.
Kyle Bets hasn't gotten to bring up anything to us. I mean, I know the guys who got to talk about the main show. Mike and I gave our reactions on the DFS and Betting podcast. I've been destroyed on social media, so bets, you want to give you a quick Falcons take.
It's the same as everyone.
I mean, peek behind the curtain for those that don't know. We talked about it a little bit on TFS and Betting that you know. I was gonna miss this past week's show. I had a procedure Thursday, like kind of as the NFL Draft was happening. I wake up out of general on aesthesia. The first thing I see on my phone Michael Pennox eighth overall to the Falcons. I say to the nurse, did you see who they just took? Like this cannot be real and this woman has no idea about the NFLIC, doesn't care at all. Second question I asked, is who the Eagles took? But we weren't there yet. I get home still woosey will say. I call Kyle. I said, dude, what are they doing? And he just said, yep, I know. I know it's not good. So I was still with it enough to just realize how atrocious of a pick that was.
I don't know, man.
It just you have a team to go all in to win right now, and you just burn the eighth overall pick to ruin your chance to do that.
I don't know.
Seems like a waste of a pick.
To me, It's okay because if he doesn't play for four or five years, that's a I love having my number eight overall pick not help us for a long time. It's such a great problem to have.
Right, isn't the I have nothing to Kyle? Wasn't that guy like a developmental prospect too?
They took whoa defensive tackle, Rooke aur Auroro, And yes, they definitely took him ahead of everybody else's borts.
It was a bad time. Every time I read that name, I just hear like a dog howl pretty much.
If you're looking at draft grades, the Falcons, not just because of the Penis pick, but across the board just reached on so many other people. So it wasn't great. I do want to caution people because I've seen people in super flexed leagues try to get really cute with Michael Pennox and figure out like, maybe I'll find the spot. There's really no precedent for this, right of us saying here's the advice to give for a player that the team has said he might not play in three to four years. Like, it's there's not a great draft spot for even in super flexis right.
Right, it's it's difficult because you are drafting it's very it's ironically the same as what the Falcons are doing. You are drafting a guy that is not going to play for your team for a couple of years. So you have to imagine. And it's not that it's a bad pick. This is the number eight overall pick who's coming into a good team with good young weapons. Right, Beijon should stick around, Coppits should stick around, Drake London should stick around. He'll have weapons to throw the ball to, so at some point he'll be very relevant. But what you are doing, essentially, barring an injury, which hey, if Kirk Cousins, who's coming back already off an achilles gets injured and can't play, then it'll be great. But barring that, you know, outlier situation, you are essentially saying, I'm gonna trade this pick for my twenty twenty six first, like I'm trading away my whatever pick, I'm taking him this year for pick two years later and then that will that can start helping my roster. It is a you have to factor in time into dynasty leagues.
I would I would disagree a bit, like I think that there's there is It's super flex is what I'm talking about. Like in super flex, every backup quarterback should be on a roster, and if there is a higher level backup with ability and an unknown ceiling. At this moment, I still think that that player should be drafted. He's just gonna sit on your bench like a lot of backups. But it's like the number eight overall pick or more of these fourth round, fifth round wide receivers. I'll stash the the QB in super flex.
Let me give you some context. I'm in the middle of a super flex rookie mock draft with Falcons fans. Okay, so these are like the people, and right now we're in the middle of the second round. He's still sitting on the board and I don't see anybody saying I need to trade up for him. So I right now it looks like he's going to go back in the second round, maybe third round in a superflex. Now you know, in one quarterback league's he's going undrafted, But should he be picked up immediately in a one quarterback draft?
Yeah? Probably, you know, we were looking at that in leagues we're in. He's gonna be on waivers, and yeah, I don't want to spend my first or second round pick when I can get someone who could help me this year next year. But he's he's the number eight overall pick. They invested in him. He's going to be a relevant fantasy asset for some decent period of time. That will happen. And so yeah, you've got just just no, you have trash on your dynasty roster. I don't care who you are. I don't care you're listening. You play a dynasty. You've got trash bags at the end of your roster. You just gotta I mean, I know you can't cut that guy, but yeah, we've been over this. At some point, you gotta let him go.
It's it's like Jordan Love, where people wanted to compare the situation, which the the NFL draft situation of Jordan Love versus Pinnix is monumentally different in my opinion. For this though, like jan back when Jordan Love was he was definitely drafted in super flex leagues, all draft Michael PENNOCKX right around like the back of the second, the beginning of the third. Honestly, I would I'd rather grab him in a draft slot there over the like these running backs where you're like, yeah, I know it never works, but what if it worked for me?
I agree the Day three running backs. If you're if you're looking at Day three running backs versus Penis and a super flex, I'll take Pinis.
Yes, he fits comfortably on a taxi squad, Like that's what taxa squad was made for.
Anything.
He's gonna fit in great with the with the crew there of guys that you want to remember, it is a funny week in dynasty. We've seen this in our dynasty leagues. But it's just a massive roster dump of just people to make room for rookie picks. I mean, just everybody that you thought maybe had a semblance of a chance. Yeah, just a massive dump.
So anyway, and that's that's really a tip for everyone listening. At the end of your rookie drafts, go hard at the waiver wires. Pick up the rookies, all of the middling guys that are three four years into their career that haven't hit. You're better off taking a shot at the rookie and they probably won't work either. But you've got a shotgun. Pick up four or five, six of those guys and turn your roster over every year. It's it's much more valuable because if one of them ends up becoming Pukainakua, it changes your roster. The other five garbage veterans that you're basically never gonna start anyways, they don't help you. They won't help you.
We just had a massive update to the UdK plus. Our Dynasty pass got a full overhauled. You guys work through the rookie rankings this weekend. Really didn't sleep at all. Jason even started statting out teams like a wild man. But a lot of updates now, ud K plus dot com anything ballers, you guys want to mention because it was a it was a team effort for us to be able to have everything updated, rookie mock drafts, rookie rankings, risers and followers, everything.
It's better than it's ever been and it will continue to be. We're we're always upgrading it. We're making newer features uh as as often as we can things are getting out earlier. You know, if you're playing best Ball now, our UdK plus is going to have best Ball rankings out earlier. We're not waiting all the way until June. That hasn't been announced anywhere other than this, but that's happening. To get on it, you guys, they know it, yes, right, you just know that you had a little conversation. Well I'm telling you you're finding out. But it's happening. So get to work. We're we're we make our team work so hard for you fuickly and so yeah, UdK plus dot com. It's a tool that if you're playing Dynasty, you I mean you want it, you do. I'm never ashamed it's it's nice. I'm never ashamed. Like it's a it's a paid product and we sell it and obvi, like I would love for you to buy it because but I'm never ashamed to sell it because like I could not imagine playing Dynasty without having a resource like that like that is. I use it like in every single draft that I'm in. So it's a good tool. It'll it'll legit help you.
One of the resources we have in there is the team Opportunity, which bets and I walked through all thirty two teams and it kind of leads us to a quick question before our mock draft. I want us to talk about a sneaky veteran winner from the draft because there are teams that didn't address a position and you can kind of forget what the depth chart situation is like. So Bets, give me a veteran, sneaky winner.
Throughout Saints wide receiver Rashid Shahid. Obviously, Chris Olave is the alpha there, but you look at what they did in the draft. The only pass catcher they added was fifth rounder. What an incredible name. By the way, this is bub means I think he's got a pit Yeah, oh dude, what it means? He's the only addition really in the draft. And then you look at what they did in free agency, pretty much like Cedric Wilson is kind of the quote unquote highlight of who they added as a pass catcher, which means it is Chris Olave and Rashid Jaheed there. Now they do have at Perry as a developmental prospect from last year. He had a couple of nice moments, but Rashid Shahead is such a fun player for Dynasty where playing like a double flex league, you know, three wide receivers and a flex kind of thing, like Rashid Jahee can crack your starting lineup in Dynasty where he can give you these massive spike weeks. And I think this year they're gonna come more often than did last year, especially considering Michael Thomas is now officially out the door. And yeah, he missed a bunch of time last year, as kind of has been the case, but he was kind of a hindrance in the first, you know, six weeks or so last year before he left. But now it's Rashid Jahead and Chris o'lave. Let's hope Derek carkent thro the ball downfield.
I'll jump in because mine is also a second Dairy wide receiver. The Dallas Cowboys did not address the running back in the draft, whether by choice or they were kind of forced into it when they're lovely Jonathan Brooks went to a different team, so it just and then they brought in Zeke, which that's a whole other conversation to have. But Zeke is to me, not solving the running back room. It's just adding more bodies to it. A guy who can take some carries. So the real winners there seems like the pass catchers for the Dallas Cowboys. Ceedee Lamb is elite. He's the top of the top. However, Brandon Cooks was like when the when the Dak Prescott ran happened, Brandon Cooks was on pace for over for almost eleven touchdowns in that time period after the bye week, Like, this is a guy that's is He feels kind of like veteran bench waiver fodder, but he is not. You'll be able to play Brandon Cooks multiple times this season, and I think he got just a small little pinch on the butt cheeks there.
Yeah, my I'll hop in because mine originally was going to be Zeke Well, he is a sneaky veteran winter he went from absolute nothingness like you can't play him, to all of a sudden he's a guy I'm staton out and I'm looking at him and Rico Dawell. Rico Daddell's the better player, but Rico Daddle's gonna be the backup. That's what That's what's gonna happen here for this team. And you're you're probably talking about two hundred and twenty five to two hundred and fifty carries for Zeke this year, six rushing touchdowns. I mean, he's gonna be inefficient, but volume his way to fantasy relevance. This is not a guy in redraft leagues, I'm gonna be drafting as one of those dead zone running backs. But in your dynasty leagues, you want to talk about a veteran who really benefited. I mean, it doesn't get much better than Zeke. But the other running back that I'll throw out is Devin Singletary. Yeah, their depth chart is awful. I wondered if they would take a look. I mean, they had too many holes phil so I didn't really expect it to go differently, but they only drafted a fifth round running back, Tyrone Tracy. And if you look at that depth chart, Tyrone Chercy coming in in the fifth round, I'm not scared of him. Eric Gray last year did nothing, Garry Bright well like Dee. I mean, it's there's a reason Saquon got everything. I mean, obviously he's Saquon, but it's because they had no one behind him, and Devin Singletary has no one behind him. So Zeke Singletary two veteran winners from drafting.
And those are players that you probably had on your roster thinking like, okay, well it's probably the end. But to have new life breathed into any player, Like so I'm gonna talk about Tyler Conklin because Brockowers, well, I love this one. He was seen as the pick at ten for a long time, like the betting favorite, and he escapes the draft with them not addressing at all. They took Jeremy Ruckert a couple of years ago in the third round, but it really hasn't got on the field very much. I think it's seventeen receptions in a couple of years. But guys, do you know that Tyler Conklin is one of five tight ends to see eighty plus targets each of the last three years Travis Kelce, TJ. Hawkinson, George Kittle, Dalton Schultz, and Tyler Conklin. In fact, he's had a.
Sound a great stat For your point, though, what eighty targets? No, My point is if he's already had the volume and he's been pretty worthless, it doesn't seem like that's one of the you know what I mean, Like that's a stat where It's like, oh, that's really cool, So why hasn't he is done.
The same reason when you talk about Garrett Wilson having targets too, that's.
That's fair quarterback upgrade, get the targets. I do like Conklin this year.
Are you are you poop pooing on my argument? Jason?
Are you a little little in your stat I just don't like you. H I tried to peel back the curtain. We had a fight yesterday because I was trying to trade for Troy Franklin in one of our dynasty leagues after he selected him, and we couldn't get to a deal. And so my coping mechanism is to hate the hate the it's anger, anger, rage, hatred, you know, the things that feed the soul. Yeah.
Yeah, I believe you said we will not be friends for a while, but one day we will.
But he kind of pushed it off when you trade me Troy Franklin. Tyler.
Conklin has the sixth highest cap hit on the Jets, which is kind of wild, Like nine million dollars is kind of a big deal. He's making more than Sauce Gardner or Garrett Wilson. Make mistakes Anyway, all of that to say, with Tyler Conklin, you thought he was dead, and yet I think you can get some serviceable weeks. We'll see with Aaron Rodgers, his tight ends have seen kind of an eighteen percent target share, which is nothing to shy away from. Like, this team is going to be interesting to figure out, like can it work? Do they have the downfield targets with guys like Mike Williams or does Malachi Corley end up taking some of these short area targets that were used to these little dump offs from Tyler Conklin. But hey, eighty targets, guys. I mean that's not just eighty seven eighty seven, So you need to highlight the fact that he's had eighty seven targets in three straight years.
I mean, what about at them for Yeah, that's a that's an before we go to the mock draft, I want to go back to Mike's pick of Brandon Cooks because while he was talking him up, I just wanted to look a little No, it's more in support of what you were saying.
Heared of breaking news.
Yeah, that backup or that back half of the year breakout for the passing game and I truly do believe, based on this draft that they will continue to pass the ball just like they did at the end of the year. You're talking from Week eight on. That was when they had their by week in Week seven. That's eleven games in the second half of the year. I did not realize Brandon Cooks during that time was the wide receiver fifteen.
Yeah, because he was like a touchdown almost every single week.
I mean, it was very, very relevant. And they're gonna be throwing the ball a lot. So I like that veteran pick.
Yeah, and if you want to go in the Ultimate draft kit. Plus, there are tons of other names I mean that we could have brought up that you can find and maybe get him on the cheap, you know, maybe find a third round pick or something that you can trade for. But let's take quick break and then we'll get to our mock draft before we get into this. You two, you two ballers, you haven't done much drafting. Your teams in the main league are good.
Our teams of the Main League are very good, and so we draft very late, and we have also traded some of our draft picks. So I think you and I both had a third round pick in our main league. However, in the league that all of us here play in together, we do have our pick in all three rounds. And also, Mike, you crushed that draft.
Oh my goodness, thank you, Jason, you have you yourself have done very much.
Thank you. I don't pay the champs.
Kind of You're not the champs. You are not the champs.
Remember, well, what are the champs of the league. No one, the lifelong champs, the most championships, the rain, the title. We're still sitting in the castle at the top of the mountain. It was three in a row, Kyle, in a dynasty league. Yeah, so people care. It's hard to look down at those draft picks, like you know, your ants down there. So that's kind of where our team is. We're just way up there, all right. Uh yeah, continue, that's enough.
Let's mock draft.
The Fantasy Footballers mock draft.
We will be going two rounds as a one quarterback draft. We also will be having a super flex one that I am participating with in the writers that'll be out on the site. So we have super flex rankings. We have every single ranking that you want, but the order is going to be Jason Betts, Mike and then myself will kind of walk through these picks. And I think for this exercise especially, I realized I gave you three the first three picks, and I'm pretty sure we all know who the first three picks are going to be.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, pump the brakes.
Give me a range of outcomes for these players, and you're one that's kind of what I'm looking for, because Jason, you started stating out, let's give people some expectation of maybe what year one could entail.
So Jason, yeah, I'll take Marvin Harrison. This is a single quarterback league. Marvin Harrison should be the one on one and one hundred percent of leagues. In my opinion, he is the most talented player in the draft. He also goes to the best position a wide receiver could go to, where he goes in as the one like Malik Neighbors does, but goes in with a quarterback, you know, like Odoons does. So he's got all three parts, the talent, the opportunity, and the quarterback altogether. So he's the clear one on one. His range of outcomes from a redraft perspective, his rookie year range of outcomes to me is wide receiver twenty four at the lowest end, I can't see him dropping outside of a wide receiver two. He's gonna have twenty five percent market share. I believe year one from Kyler he'll cross the thousand yards. It's a matter of touchdowns. I think his upside if he is as elite as you know, some of the other best rookie wide receiver we've seen when Jamar Chase came in Pooka this last year, justin Jefferson, I don't think you can really cap him, like if everything hits much lower than like wide receiver five, that's what I had to If he ends up you know, with ten touchdowns, he'll he'll be up there. So that's kind of the range of I think the most likely outcome for him is gonna be in that like twelve to fifteen range for rookie year.
It's funny because I saw the interview with you know, his dad, and his dad you know, brought up like, hey, I want him to beg for the ball. So that's like my only if I had any like thing in the back of my head. It's more narrative based, is like come on, man, I want you just to come in there and say, I'm the dude. We're not throwing at Greg Dortch every other play. So I was really fortunate to get him at the one oh three in a super flex league where I mean, and I have Kyler, so I have the stack, and I am feeling dad feeling great.
Sounds fun.
Congrats, Oh Betsy.
You're up.
First off, Hell are you saying it negative about Greg Grtsch, who is good at the game. At the one point oh two, We're gonna take lak Neighbors, which I think is chalk for almost every draft I've been in. You know, obviously the production profile is there, the draft capitals there, The landing spot for year one is not ideal with quarterback question marks, whether it's Daniel Jones health and or on field performance or Drew Locke. But you look at the depth chart and they have no one. I mean, we just talked about it with Devin Singletary at the running back position. The pass catching position is just as bad, if not worse. And now there's don't is it confirmed that Darren Waller is retiring, Not that it really matters, but he's it's notmed.
But everyone knows he's retiring, So it's like.
But regardless he's yeah, fallen off year after year of the last three or four years, it's it's his. It's his team now at this point. So range of ockcoms is Daniel Jones is healthier than you know people project, and he plays better than he has in the past, and he's you know, a top twenty four option. This team could also be a dumpster fire and it be wildly inefficient. And he's kind of like a wide receiver thirty six type of guy for you where he's not a huge difference maker, but he shows you enough and you're one that you're like, man, I'm excited about this guy in year.
Two, I'm trying to figure out just looking through first round picks over the last you know, decade or so, and the landing spot is something that we've kind of said, like doesn't matter as much if you're gonna see, you know, like how many targets are we gonna project from one hundred and twenty something like that, or more like, I feel like it's really hard for me to see a scenario part from injury where he's not seeing that same twenty five percent plus because this team has nobody commanding targets. I mean they had nobody over twenty one percent last year. So when you see that type of target share, you end up kind of being in that top twenty four range for year one. It's it's really hard for me to see a scenario where he's not unless he has a flukey touchdown season. So it's the floor is so high that in year one, and you see his athleticism, that is only going to be good. So neighbors, I have nothing negative to say.
Third pick Bold, That's good work, Kyle, thank you.
At the number three. It is shockingly Romadounese. He goes to it. Jason, I loved it, like the setting up the three prong approach like that. Marvin Harrison is the only one of these three who has he has all three day one, where Rome has two of them because he has the talent slash draft capital. He's got the quarterback. But I mean that's still TBD, that's a that is still an assumption. He was the one on one, but it is still an assumption that Kayleb Williams will translate to the NFL. But he is the wide receiver three for the time being. Because this is these are not just like solidified veterans on his team. These are guys who are proven number ones already in DJ Moore and Keenan Allen's So it's like the upside case.
For Rome.
Assuming everyone is there most of the year, you know, like Keenanan and DJ. It's I mean, what can he really top in year one? Can he surpass seven hundred and fifty yards?
Yeah? I mean that's gonna be tough. I think if he has a good rookie season for fantasy, it's gonna just so happen to be like he became the the you know, the touchdown guy, right, you get the big body guy around the goal line. It's like seven fifty and seven or something like that. Yeah, I mean, so, I he's he does not project to be a year one real difference maker like the first two wide receivers, and I've seen some people not take him at three because of that fear. A lot of people want to group him in with JSN where it was like a great, highly touted prospect who goes to a team behind two really really good wide receivers. I think there is some parts of that that's fair, because this is a good, highly touted wide receiver going to be absolutely behind two other really really good wide receivers. The biggest difference though, to me in longevity is that one you have a much higher ceiling for the quarterback pairing, and two, Keenan Allen really does project to be a one year rental. They didn't extend him when they traded for him. He's a complete unrestricted free agent at the end of this year. He's not the type of guy that would ever get a franchise tag, So that means essentially we're gonna know they're either going to extend him, but they haven't, and I doubt they do. I would imagine Odoonsea gets to step up into that number two, maybe even that number one role as early as the following season, and he was.
Picked number nine where JSN no matter how much US nerds loved him, he still fell into the twenties. Now, there's a lot of variables that change when a wide receiver is gonna get picked, But I mean it's the NFL told us with their actions that a bunch of teams bypassed JSN and the the the Bears did not bypass Robadoonza on their second go round.
And we've seen time and time again. When rookie ball thrower and rookie ball receiver are drafted together. You know there there's something special about that. We're human beings. You know, they're gonna go to rookie camp together. They're gonna be an all boys, They're gonna be boys. They're gonna be best friends because they're living this life and this dream tied to each other the way that Tank Dell did last year with CJ. Stroud and and these guys were both top ten picks. They literally went to the draft together before they were teammates. So this, you know, this is this is greater signed JSN for sure. Yep.
It's like when AJ Green said Andy Dalton and I we're gonna be boys. We're gonna be hanging out together all the time. So when you get to the fourth pick, I think here we go. All would say there's a tear break here of feeling super comfortable, and we got this question all over discord of like okay, do I trade out of this spot? And obviously it's team dependent, but I really think you could go two or three different directions here and it's okay, there's nothing wrong with it.
I think which means it to interject, which means to me, if you could trade back a couple spots and pick something up, I'm one hundred percent fine with that. Yes, you know, if someone else says, I know who the dude is at four, like I'm positive this guy's going to be a superstar, because four could absolutely be a superstar. I'm not positive on any of these guys. There's a lot of guys I like there. So if I could trade back only like three spots and get the guys that I see in the same tier, I'm happy to pick up you know, future future capital. Get me an extra first and a year or two to move back a couple spots.
Hecky, I have no problem if someone has running back needs they want to take Jonathan Brooks. I think Xavier Worthy is the pick that I would make just team to you know, not thinking about team, because I've come around to feeling more comfortable with him as not just a hoully with his speed that I think think I'm okay.
With grounding the tape on that way. Just let let me watch the State.
We'll see how the NFL actually feels, you know, if they're just how they're gonna use him. But I what what I like most about Worthy before the combine, before any of that stuff, was the early breakout age and the fact that he's used at all different levels of the field. It's not just he's not Hollywood like. That's what's so interesting about this landing spot is.
Like, you have a guy Nicole Hardman either, right.
He's kind of been used everywhere and he was successful at all those levels of the field. Now, weight concerns are are valid, but the landing spot, the situation, and his production profile says I think he's worth this one oh four one o five range.
Agreed, Yeah, that the That would be my pick at the one o four as well. There are so many comparisons. Everyone wants to be like, Okay, well look at the other fastest players. They didn't work. Look at the other really light players. You know, there's only outliers that work. But sometimes human beings are outliers. You know, Xavier Worthy is an outlier in the sense that he's the fastest person to ever play, and he's going to a situation where this team knows how to use the players, how to get the most out of them if they're good. Now, sky Moore wasn't good. Sky Moore came from a small program. Sky Moore was a second round pick. You know, McCole Hardman was a second round pick with no production and he's collegiate profile.
He was shocking, like everyone was. Yeah, it was baffled when they took McCole Hardman, and it was you gotta jump in the time machine. And remember, at that point of the offseason, no one knew if Tyreek Hill would take another snap in the NFL and like it, and honestly, us in the dynasty community and the Kansas City Chiefs, they pushed their chips on the side of erring that they thought Tyreek would never play again. So they they got backed into a corner. We need some speed. This is not backed into a corner. This is they moved up in the first round to This wasn't when they when they drafted Worthy, we went, huh no, it was this one hundred percent makes sense and this is a fascinating pick.
And I am a man. Yeah, they are four picks away and they're sitting there going they're worried they're not going to get this guy. That tells me they have a plan for this guy. They traded up for him, and you know you've you've seen this Deshaun Jackson, I mean he is He's someone you don't usually try to comp people to because he's a one one. He's a one of one. But he does have a lot in common with Xavier Worthy. And I bring his name up only because Andy Reid coached Deshaun Jackson with success, like he's used a player that has that skill set to success. So I I do like Xavier Worthy here. He would be my pick as well.
It's scary. And tell me if you guys working through this, like we've done the mock drafts a couple of times before you know you're doing it, And I think it's scary to look at one oh four and going, I'm picking Xavier Worthy because all my other mocks last couple months had him around the you know, one two turn and you're like, oh, this feels like such a big pick for such a light dude. I know it's more mental, but it's like it's so different. So Jason, you're at one o five.
Yeah, one oh five, there's a group of guys I see very similar that I like the prospect and I see the path that it could work and there's plenty of yellow flags and problems as well. So if I'm in that mix and i'm kind of like, you know, I'm looking at Lad McConkie Ke Coleman, guys that I really like the a lot and I and there's some that I don't. At that point, I'm going to take the first running back that was taken in the NFL draft, uh, Jonathan Brooks. You know, you assumed going into the draft his line was fifty six and a half. It was basically the thought, the thought, the big board thought consensus was that the first running back to come off the board would be maybe at the Cowboys at fifty six. I think they certainly thought that was gonna happen. And then you have the Panthers, you know, trade up and get that guy early. He fits the skill set you know that they had with Rashaud White. Dave Canalis the new head coach. They he talked in the press conference about how much they want to run the ball even if they're not having success like that opens up the play action. They're good, but they want a back that has the three down skill set and the cap investment into him combined with what I thought was phenomenal tape. I really really liked two running backs in this draft class. They were the first two drafted in the NFL. I'm not too worried about the ACL. I do think they'll bring him along a little slower. But to get the first running back off your dynasty rookie drafts who is also the first in the NFL draft who I like and will get volume, I'm gonna take you.
If you're looking at too beyond this year with Jonathan Brooks. I was looking at some of this with the team opportunity charts and everything. I mean, it's Jonathan Brooks next year under contract, and technically it's Miles Sanders, but it won't be Miles Sanders after they cut him next year and save about three million dollars. So literally after this year, it's Jonathan Brooks and no one else. And yeah, they'll add but he's the short term answer and the long term solution here I think for the running back position.
And he's really good. That's that's an important part of this, and the fact that they want to utilize him as a pass catcher. For fantasy football, you need that, and so you you don't know about the touchdown opportunities. The quality of the offense being led by Bryce Young, but I mean Baker Mayfield leading the Buccaneers last year was not the best. But when you dump it off over and over to the running back, you get you know, number seven, you know, Rashad White running back, even though he was like three and a half yards of carry.
All right, one o seven? Back to wide receiver. I'm gonna take the guy that went twenty.
Third overall one six.
Sorry, I can't count.
You learn to count? Are you still under the influence? It's a antastesia.
Possibly, I'm gonna take Brian Thomas Junior here, twenty third overall to Jacksonville. Ironically, we're recording this on the same day that Za Jones got cut. Not that it matters a ton, but it opens up just an immediate opportunity for the three wide receiver set to be Brian Thomas Junior, gave Davis on the other side and Christian Kirk in the slot. We've talked a lot on the show about you know, Trevor Lawrence and his fantasy outlook and how he might be a little overvalued in fantasy circles, but he's a good NFL quarterback, and he knows what he's doing. So you look at the lack of ability for Gabe Davis to earn targets, you know there's an opportunity for Brian Thomas Junior right away and Kyles talked about this. The target's route run number for a first round pick is wildly terrible from the underlying metrics type of standpoint. But I am going to follow the draft capital the landing spot. I'll take Brian Thomas.
He's so tough, like I think you could take him here, you could take him three or four spots later. The competition for targets is what the hardest thing is. And then so if that's what he struggled with in college, is gonna be hard When there's Ingram, there's Kirk Et and obviously catch the ball on the backfield, and then the hardest thing for me is just this team. Gabe Davis and Brian Thomas have overlapping skill sets of what they're good at.
I think Gabe Davis, I don't know. I mean, I think Gabe Davis is gonna be literally running winsprints this year on the perimeter.
For a lot of money.
Yeah, honestly, And Kirk and Ingram are just gonna eat over the middle.
I had no idea what their like game plan was. But I mean Thomas, we all thought he was gonna go in the first round, but he's he's a wild card. I think we could look up a year from now and be like, I don't know what Brian Thomas is because he was lost in the midst of a bunch of other pass catchers. But Mike one O seven.
That's where like, Brian, Brian Thomas is a worthy pick here, as is McConkie or Yeah, what I was gonna say is in tears. Yeah, and you can also throw in Xavier Laguette and Ricky Pierce. Also, they were first round NFL draft picks. Like, there's a whole tier that. That's why I went with. It makes me jok.
It makes me like you're Jonathan Brooks pick more ja we our rankings are different. I see Brooks differently than you. The NFL loved him, clearly, he's the first running back drafted, but I felt like he was a a good prospect. I didn't find him to be electric or what I'm what I get excited about for fantasy but second round and him being the guy it after one oh five. Maybe you have, maybe you have persuaded me just because all these guys are so similar, talk about these wide receivers.
One of these wide receivers is gonna hit this place, yes, and that pick will be a much better pick than Jonathan Brooks. It will. So if you get it right, great, I'm glad you didn't take Jonathan Brooks. You got Brian Thomas who broke out and became a superstar. You got Lad mcconkiye, who became the new Keenan Allen, you got you know, whichever one hits. But Jonathan Brooks's path to failing seems much smaller the path the failing of this group of wide receivers.
So with for me, it's very, very tough to go between Keon Coleman and Lad McConkie Both went.
To ideal spots.
Both of their draft capital is extremely similar. Both have franchise quarterbacks throwing them the ball. Both have opportunity, I mean, they like the parallels between these two guys. And on top of that, both of them their production profiles are not great. They are not what you want out of guys who are going in the second round. When I scouted. I thought Lad McConkie was the more pro ready player. But the key On Coleman highlights are talking about press conferences. Well yeah, his press conference did make me look like it more as a person getting snacks talking about budget shopping as coat. Like this dude is speaking my language right now. I'm all about them deals.
Uh.
But but Keon Coleman's highlights are like these are jaw dropping highlights. And with Jason and I we were on the clock in Dino Junior of picking between these two guys. I have Coleman higher in my rankings. Jason has Lad McConkey higher in his rankings. And it was walking through the range of outcomes, you know, unfortunately, like you're just you're following what the team has done recently. So it's like lad McConkie, what are his chances of becoming the next Keenan Allen for this team? And it's like, well, ARC type he fits that. He's a sharp route runner. He seems like a really smart guy of just destroys zone, destroys it because he recognizes and he sits down and just is a smart wide receiver. So his his opportunity to replace that Arc type for this team, which we know justin Herbert loves it. And then versus Keon Coleman, can Keyon Coleman becomes Stefan Diggs. I don't think so. And it's like the path is almost he probably replaces Gabe Davis, who was simply a a tantalizing tease of what could be great for fantasy football. It just never was. It never was in his entire career here or there. So we ended up going with Lad McConkie. I'm just trying to give a really laid out explanation these two guys. It's really really difficult I'm going to take in this draft, though, I'll go the upside. I will shoot for key On Coleman.
Yeah, And to be fair to your rankings in that league, you said you would go Coleman over Lad there as well. I'm the manager of the team, you're the co manager, So I overruled you and it went Lad. But it is very very close.
Yeah, I'm in a complete agreement. I have the next pick of I was just going to take whoever's there because I think if your team, if you're looking for somebody that could just have a high floor, you know, if you're in a full PPR league, you can see the route where you get I don't know, eighty percent of Keenan Allen or whatever it is. You'd be happy with that down the road. And he's a Georgia boy, so I think I would be very happy with that. Keon Coleman. Yeah, it terrifies me if I'm using the first round pick, but if you're gonna shoot for the moon, then the ceiling clearly is there. But I had the same feeling. Did they replace Gabe Davis with Gabe Davis?
Yeah, because that is Keon Coleman can be so unbelievably good. You watch a game and you're like, Wow, this guy's dominant. He is going to work in the NFL, and then you you can't watch the games. You can't watch like, oh what about the games where he disappeared because it's like he's not there. It's just like games where he just disappears. You go, how how is it this good? And he just isn't consistent at all, And that is very Gabe Davis. Yep, I mean Gave Davis is like, yeah, I'm gonna get three touchdowns two hundred yards and I'm gonna take three weeks off. Yeah, because he accumulated his stats. Yeah, all right, am I on the clock? Then you you you picked up lad.
Yeah, We're gonna take a quick break. Oh and then I want you to think about it, Jason, do you think about this long and hard, because Troy Flanklin.
Is all break. I'm gonna think about it.
All right, We're back, Jason.
Go for it. Okay. So we just took this two pack of second round wide receivers and we took them over a two pack of the end of the first round wide receivers in Ricky Pierre Sall and Xavier Logett, two players I really like, and they've got the draft capital. But obviously when you go at the end of round one, you're usually going or rather when the Carolina traded up to the end of round one, he's in a bad position speaking of his Xavier Logett. So I'm still gonna push those two guys a little bit down. There's two players I've got above them for all the reasons I took Jonathan Brooks. It's very very similar to me for Trey Benson, who was my actual RB one in the draft process, that was the guy I liked the most from just a film perspective. I know, Mike, you were in agreement with me there, yep, where Cardinals fans, he goes to the Cardinals. The the actual the running backs under contract next year are Trey Benson. That's it. I mean there, he is the guy next year. There is no money. It's not like, oh, there's a dead cap situation where they're gonna cut James Connor. No, Connor's not even under contract, and they just spent a round two pick, sorry, a Day two pick on Trey Benson. So I like Trey Benson. Here a lot. It's between him and actually Caleb Williams, because I'm just trying to I want not Brock. No, no, no, not Brock. I don't do first round rookie tight ends. That's just not my brand. And you can criticize me for that and say it's dumb, except that his so far always worked one hundred percent of the time. So you keep grabbing your your hot and awesome first tight end taking in the draft. Um, I'm gonna go, wait, you didn't make the pick, all right, I'll take trade ben I was about to go callable and so I'm gonna take trade Benson. I do think he works. Everything I liked about his film will translate to the NFL. You probably won't have an excellent year one. I think he'll be involved a little bit. He can catch passes, He'll have an explosive play here or there, and he'll be valuable when there are injuries to James Connor. James Connor has never finished a full season, so you know he'll have a couple of those games, but you'll have to wait until twenty twenty five to to really have the sensation. But Trey Benson, That'll be my pick, all right.
I feel like Jason just personally attacks me. I'm gonna take brock Powers at the one ten. This is the range where like.
If Ida hadn't done it, I would do it with.
This is the range where I'm in on brock Bowers.
Now.
The landing spot is weird Broccoli Bowers.
That's what it feels. It feels like you're you're eating brocco, Like fine, do it. Yeah, it's good. It's a tight end, but it's like it's good.
Really good prospect. I mean he was he was the focal point of an SEC offense as a freshman. I mean, that's that's how good this guy could be. Now he goes to a weird situation where with Antonio Pierce they want to run the ball. They just took Michael Mayer literally last year in the second round. Doesn't make sense to me. But this new GM coaching staff didn't draft Michael Mayer. They drafted Brock Bowers and they were talking about him as their post draft presser. I thought it was interesting they called him a move receiver. They didn't call him a tight end. I think they have a vision for him to be kind of this big slot receiver, maybe like a Dalton Kinkaid type of guy. So if you're getting that, you know, as a rookie, which I mean Don Kinkaid had a phenomenal rookie year for all things considered, If you're getting that type of scenario at the one ten, to me, that's a spot where I'm going in on Brock Bowers and hope that he can be difference maker.
I get it, we're a little bit lower in our rankings, I think compared to most, but Mike, you're definitely higher than both Andy and Jason. So do you feel similar.
Yeah, it's just I feel confident that Brock Bauers will work in the NFL, It's going to take time. Like using a first rounder on a player you don't feel like it's going to help your team right now, it can be difficult, but you are also in this range if you're in the back of the first anyways, of not every team, not every good team has a good tight end. I'm talking about for fantasy football. So if you can get another shot at having a guy who could become an elite tight end, I'm very open to it right here.
Yeah, obviously if it works, it's great if you get one of the very few tight end difference makers for fantasy. The value of having a Jimmy Graham, a Gronk Kelsey during their heydays is enormous and so you got to take your shot. He is talented. This isn't speaking anything against his talent, but I just know that the way that the NFL works, tight ends don't usually do for fantasy. Even if they're a good tight end and helping their franchise, they don't usually do for fantasy what we dream of them doing for fantasy. Eric Ebron was supposed to be the dude, you know, top ten draft pick, higher draft capital you know, Kyle Pitts was honestly is the best prospect to me that I had a thousand yards. O. J. Howard was supposed to be the dude. You know that that that O J. Howard Draft. There was a tight end who broke out for fantasy in that draft, but it wasn't one of the three in the first round. It was George Kittle. It was George Kittle after Jake Button, Michael Roberts and John hu Smith and.
Adam Shaheen Jake but reference I love it.
Yeah, I mean, I just I look back and I'm like, Okay, Gronk was great. He went behind Jermaine Gresham in the draft. Jimmy Graham was great. He went behind Ed Dixon and Tony Moe. You got Mark Andrews was great, But it was Hayden Hurst and Mike Kasiki and Dallas Goddard ahead of him. Even this last year, Sam Laporter rookie sensation, he wasn't the first guy drafted. It's like, never been the first guy drafted. So I just I hate so I should have taken I like, I want Brock Bowers on my team, but I would have prof well, no, because then you're condemning him. You want to not be the first one to draft on. My point is if there is sensational, high upside wide receivers or like quarterbacks that you know have a much higher hit rate, I would rather take them when those when that tier is gone, that's when I will come in for Brock Bowers. But he's always gone by them.
Yeah, is this where the quarterbacks are, Mike, at the end of the first round, we haven't had Caleb Williams. Jane Daniels is kind of on the board too. It's been kind of between the quarterbacks and these wide receivers, these late first round wide receivers.
And this is I think very team dependent. If you're in a single quarterback and you have two good starting options, I'd probably take the swing at the wide receiver. Just another lottery ticket, even though they don't feel like the best lottery tickets, uh with the where they went. But I yes, I'm gonna take Caleb Williams right here. His what is his true ceiling? I don't think it's a top three guy. You're hoping that he is a top ten maybe top eight perennial uh per Well, and I can't even say that word perennially, no one to help them perennially perally.
I got it. Yeah, you got there first drive. Uh so, yeah, I'll go. I'll take Caleb right there.
I'm gonna simplify it and just take Jane Daniels. Uh So, Jason can sort out between the wide receivers. I think I think Daniels belongs at this one two turn in one quarterback leagues, I get it if you already have a top in quarterback, but if you want to roll the dice for somebody that could be and could break fantasy, he'd be the dude. But lots of questions here. But Jason, you're at the two one.
I was looking while you were on the clock and I was like, oh great, I don't have to decide the Ricky Piersong Xavier Legett decision, because I'll just take whichever one Kyle doesn't. And then you took Jaydon Daniels, which I think is a great pick that I don't have any problem taking Daniels ahead of those guys. When I'm looking at there's a big tier break to me between the rest of the wide receivers that are available in the situation. You know, of the guys that went in round three, or even some of the ones left in round two. Between those guys and the first round picks, I'm going to go with the draft capital. I'm you know, the situation isn't perfect for Ricky Pearsoal going to the forty nine ers right now, because it's very clogged and you don't know how he can be more than like the fifth target. But obviously that could be cleared away with the trade coming soon. I like the tape, but you don't believe in Bryce Young. I should say I don't believe in Bryce Young, but maybe with Dave Canal's coming in the quarterback whisper who work for Gino, worked for Baker, maybe he can fix things. I'm gonna take Xavier Loget. This is a player we've talked about this whole pre NFL draft process. Do it. I'm doing it. I told you from the get go. I said, look, the process is bad for players like this. A fifth year breakout doesn't work. He was twenty almost twenty three years old when he's like finally beating up on these little boys, and it worked for college. I don't know that that translates. I've told people, don't draft Xavier Loget, but I'm going to draft him because I believe in him. I know that, like analytics say, he won't work, and so I'm gonna really just trust my gut on this. I don't usually like to do that. I don't like going one, you know, taking film and throwing the other one out. But it's not completely throwing the other one out. Because his production profile in his final season was outstanding. He was great across the board. He was just awesome. I don't understand how it happened. But when you got a team trading up for the first round for a prospect that I believed in, how do I not take him here? So I'll take Exavier look.
At and he's going to be quite quotable over the next couple of.
Years, if you can understand him. He pronounces it at No.
That's how he pronounced it in his in his first interview, which is even more fun.
He pronounces I mean, do you know how he pronounces hello? I mean it's like, I don't know that you could take that amazing accent.
I know how you say your name, but I'm not gonna say it that way.
No one else could say anything the way he does. If you're not from where he's from. He is the sweetest like you talk, Ken Coleman has great interviews. What he's been talking about is so fun. But the smile and the southern I don't even know. You can't call a southern draw from Yeah, it's like it's the assistant coach from from water Boy. I mean you you can barely you need subtitles, and it's awesome. I just well, I just love that dude. But I don't think we can go with his pronunciation for anything. We're gonna stick until we're told by some NFL pronunciation guy that it's not cameras.
John got him and Keon Coleman all year and it's gonna be fantastic.
We can speed this up.
I'm gonna just take Ricky Piersoll, basically whoever you didn't take I was gonna take. I'm not sure where they're at with the whole trade rumors on IYUK versus Debo and where they're at with their cap situation, but I think they've got a plan for him down the line. I think this is a guy that if both those guys stick around and you've got kid'll obviously and see him see like the production year one is gonna be almost nothing, but you're taking a swing on the upside and in the event one of those guys gets moved with a good offense and a good play clar that you trust in Kyle Shanahan.
And I am back on the clock. Here.
We have some second round wide receivers who look situations not necessarily great for some of them. But then I'm gonna take ad Ni Mitchell Jason fists because you didn't have to do.
It, because he's the highest of my rankings, so if he came, I would have to do it, and I'm like, no, I don't want to draft him.
He much like Keon Coleman. He can wow you with with certain plays, but his production profile is it. It's leaves a lot to be desired, but draft capital buying into what the Colts are doing, building around Anthony Richardson and being like a true offense focused team. You gave Johnny Taylor the money, you gave Michael Pittman the money, and now you hopefully have found your wide receiver too, like this is this will be a very fun team. And I think that if if Richardson becomes the quarterback Daydre Raft did at number four overall, then then ad should be a very usable player with ceiling if he actually becomes a true player in the NFL.
Yeah, I know I've I've spoken down on Adan Ni Mitchell, but it's worth being realistic here that I've spoken down from all the buzz of he's like a first round draft pick. I think Schefter was talking about he's gonna be in the top twenty picks. You know, it was like he was supposed and I didn't see that. But if you're comparing him to like Alec Pierce, the guy whose role he's about to take, there's not even a Alec Pierce was not the type of prospect that Adam II Mitchell is. Adam II Mitchell is way better. So the landing spot is great, the draft capital is great. He's got the tools and the moments on film that really say I see the path, how it can work out. So yeah, I don't mind. I would have taken him there too.
And for the fact that being bullish on Anthony Richardson like kind of like just colliding those two things together, Like if Richardson hits, then he can bring Mitchell along with him and we'll see where this offense can go. But yeah, I mean the Colts did a great job, by the way, in their draft, they just sat there and took the best edd dresser, you know, in the draft, like a logical team. Anyway, two oh four, I'm gonna take Roman Wilson. And I was thinking about the best way to describe Roman Wilson. It would not shock me if we look back at this class and Roman Wilson lasts the longest in the NFL of any of these wide receivers, Like he just knows what to do, and it's a great landing spot in the sense of opportunity. I'm not saying the Steelings graand but.
His story And yeah, I mean he got the stamp of approval from the Steelers. Man, if you're not if you're a Steelers wide receiver, it's.
Like you can ball at least on the on the Steelers. Off of the Steelers.
Maybe no, no, no, no, not at all. But eighteen percent of the targets are gone With Deontay Johnson. I think he's gonna slide into an every down roll that we will be talking about him this year at some point in redraft as like, oh you can flex this guy.
I of Roman Wilson. I love that pick. We Mike and I just drafted him in our league. I comp him quite a lot to different play style necessarily, but but Lad McConkie and him are guys I just know we're gonna work in the NFL. He's gonna be able to get open and catch everything you throw his way, and so it's like that that'll work. I don't know for fantasy purposes, you know, if he's really gonna become a sensational superstar, but he'll have a long career. Completely agree with you, but that's the end of a tier break for me. At wide receiver. You got Jalen Polk and Jermaine Burton and some of these guys my you know, my Troy Franklin. Love but there, but that's a big gap down. Uh So that's where I'm going to when I get to the guys where I'm like, not as sure are going to hit, and I'm just trying to play the When I make picks, I'm usually playing the percentage chance. This isn't a bust. That's what matters the most to me. So I'm gonna take JJ McCarthy because I think he's gonna be relevant. He's got great weapons, he just can't. He basically was drafted into the best situation I can remember any quarterback ever being drafted into with high end draft capital, and he's mobile enough where he can add a little bit on the ground. So I will draft JJ McCarthy.
I love that pick in the Diner Junior League.
We're all in.
He went at the two twelve, which I took him there and I felt great, felt so great.
This offense was letting Jeff Mullins much for they were letting Nick Mullens chuck it like forty times last year. So we're gonna find out, I think pretty quickly if like the Michigan stuff, was just their offense, and that's kind of how he's uewed because I do think you can play, and obviously the landing spot's awesome. I was gonna take him with this pick if Jason did not take him, so I will take the other quarterback in Drake May. I definitely have concerns about year one in that offense, with that skill group or lack thereof, but this is a guy that can run around the goal line. He throws deep. I know that there's some mechanical issues people have talked about, but in general, when you're looking at a guy that can throw deep and run around the goal line, that sounds like a pretty good bet in fantasy. So we'll see a year one. I don't think it's gonna be great, but obviously I'm I'm a big fan of the talent. We talked about that a lot on the show.
I struggle with JJ McCarthy over Drake. I think it's JAJ like I I, if you want to take Drake May over JJ McCarthy, great. The Minnesota Vikings, the team that has JJ McCarthy, they thought that Drake May was two first rounds better. Allegedly, Yeah, I can't believe that. Internally, allegedly because got out everybody knew that they were trying to trade up to the three like that, They got calls they were trying to trade up for the three, and then all of a sudden, they don't trade up anymore once Drake May was gone. And then it leaked that they were offering the both of their first this year and their first next year. So it's alleged. It's alleged, but I believe it. I believe it wholeheartedly, because but it's true. I mean, yeah, it's it's it's been alleged based on watch.
I mean, you can't put it on the internet. If it's on the internet, it's true.
So anyways, I do believe that maybe we don't know the details. Maybe it was not a first, maybe it was a third next year, maybe it was something different. But essentially they believe Drake May was better than JJ McCarthy because they were trying to trade up to three and then they stopped trying to trade up and let McCarthy fall to them. So it's it's interesting. All right, Next, I'm up. You are next at the two oh seven.
Now I have a very strong battle between draft capital and what I think is the better situation and it and maybe this player fell. I'm between Jalen Polk who was the other wide receiver for well one of the other but the second wide receiver drafter for who played with Michael Pennix and he went to the Patriots thirty seventh. Overall, Jay, you just talked about you like quarterbacks coming in with rookie wide receivers, as do I. The team, like the Patriots with their actions are saying this is what we hope to be the future, and we'll see like it could be. It's great that they're coming in at the same time. Meanwhile, Jermaine Burton went to the Cincinnati Bengals, who are about to have a job opening in just a year.
You know that me and Betts.
Have kind of been talking about Burton on and off all off season long of just like keep an eye on this guy. You got several scouts who are like their opinions, and they've all said, like, Burton's actually one of the better talents in the NFL. Dude might have a pretty off the field like his attitude it sounds I don't know, I'm just this is what has been reported that he kind of has a little bit of an attitude problem and that may have caused him to drop in the NFL draft. But the dude had an at an average depth of target of over twenty yards last year for Alabama and now he gets to go play with Joe Burrow. The situation is so it tantalizing. It's a year away once T Higgins is gone. If T Higgins is gone, that's also you got to build in that bit of a risk.
But I think he'll be gone, so curious which one of these two guys are. I'm going Jermaine Burton.
Okay, great pick, right, yeah, that's a home run pick right there. I mean, come on, what a pick. Kyle loves it, thank you.
It is fun when you're yoked together as somebody else for a pick that you're like, we're riding. We're going for this pick and we're going down if it doesn't.
Delete this j Burton doesn't work in a year.
Yeah, yeah, I know that. I believe in this player. I don't know if Jason still believes, but I will be taking Troy Franklin once again ahead of.
Wow because I just twist the knife cut.
I would have taken him the pick before. I don't know if Jason feels that way, but Troy Franklin is taking a fourth round. Denver Broncos gets to you know, it's giddy up with his boy Bonix. Well frank guys.
Over Jalen Polk is just is blowing my mind. Guys, blowing my mind.
He is over Polk for me and I and I do understand what you're talking about. You're talking about a two round difference, right the Yeah, I get that to be you know, the thirty seventh pick overall in the second round versus dropping to the fourth round. It is a massive deal. And so I don't blame anyone that would want to take Jalen Polk over Troy Franklin. But Polk is going into a situation that's pretty muddy. He's not the only rookie wide receiver coming into that situation. And so they, I mean, both those players are going in with rookie quarterbacks, right, except one of them was his rookie quarterback. Sure that he had all of his production. I think he's the most productive wide receiver of all time for Oregon. And so he gets that quarterback wide receiver combo from college. So it's an extra bonus. And you know, the way that he was talked about as that Z wide receiver from Peyton in the post press conferences, the fact that he was the guy that when they when they left to go to that day three they had, you know, they looked at like who are He's like, there's always six or seven guys that are just like wow, how are they here? People are going to be trading up for them, And that guy, being Troy Franklin, was all alone two rounds ahead. He was a second round grade for the for the Broncos, and so they knew they had to get him, and so they traded up to get him to pair him with bow Nicks. They saw a ton of him because they were scouting bo Nicks. He came to bo Nix's workout with the Broncos, so they have a lot of familiarity with him. His production profiles awesome. I believe in the talent and the situation is good, so I would take Troy Franklin, but I don't blame anyone for taking Poke over him. Polk has the better draft capital and the better quarterback. I will take Polk here here.
Here's also something that I'm still figuring out. The best way to explain this is, yes, he got Day three draft capital, but when you look at the buckets of what the Broncos had to work with, they didn't have a second round pick. They took somebody at seventy six, so they had not a ton of draft capital. So to them taking somebody here at one oh two, you know, right at the very beginning of the fourth round, like it sounds like they would have taken him in the end of the third round if they had the draft capital to be able to do it. So it's just one of those things where it's like, I get it, it's a different day. But if he went at pick ninety four as at one O two, we would feel completely different about this conversation. And it's only a couple of picks different, and this is what the team had to work with. So I'm just I'm throwing that out as this is a different bucket, but because it is a completely different day, we treat it so differently than five picks before, right, And that's my thoughts.
Before bets picks. I'm going to jump in and.
Say it is very politic, like this is just a mock draft. It's possible that your drafts went very different, yes, than they are going for us right now, I am I the wide because we're I guess we're just we're not drafting now based on our team needs, like that's not factoring in at all. And both rookie drafts that I've been in have seen running backs go in the second round and we haven't even brought up a single running back name other than the top two guys.
Who, as we should not have and as you should not do, rookie running backs that are drafted a little bit later. They're always pushed way up, way way up, because everyone has needs. Once these wide receivers are gone, once the tiers of like highly drafted wide receivers or great situations are gone, absolutely grab them. And there are still a couple Day two running backs left. Maybe we'll take them here. But usually you're right, Mike, Like in the actual live drafts I've been in, they're early, they're seven, eight, nine picks ago.
Right, Like we got Laget in a draft at two oh seven because people were taking running backs and they were just so desperate to take Korum or you know, take Jalen right or whoever. I do think this is Marshawn L. Doyd territory at the end of the second round. I don't know if you feel that way, but Jason, you're taking Jalen Polk like the leftover.
Okay, that is my final pick of this draft.
I believe it is Marshall Lloyd's territory, but it's also the senator territory. Kyle ben Senate off the board.
Oh sorry, Mike, I should have left him for you.
I am the.
The tight end one in this class. We just talked about, you know, coming in with the rookie quarterback. He's coming in with the rookie quarterback and Jane Daniels. The only name on the depth chart ahead of him that he has to jump is thirty nine or whatever. He is not really zach Ertz catch a fall down type of guy. Cole Turners masty boy. Last year didn't work out. I'm actually really excited about this landing spot with Ben Sennen. So two ten, I will take ye.
You're a dog the Senator. You would have taken him.
Probably, yeah, I mean I have I also have a brain, did a reputation to protect and is somehow the off season for me has become just surrounding the Senator. But the off season with the Senator, stocks are going up, guys, like the value is up.
The market is.
Finally correcting to the greatness that has been Senate. Uh so I have one more pick.
It is a testament to your scouting, you know, because we're not scouts, and we don't pretend to be scouts, but we do scout and we have for a decade and so you know, but Ben Sennate was, you know, on like the big boards. He was like the tight end six seven, eight, right, more often than being someone high. And he was your tight end two from the get go, like you just loved him and then appreciate that. The NFL is like, yeah, he's our tight end two as well.
We love I felt it actually, So that's how I found out.
That's gonna I was gonna make the joke of like if someone from this the Washington Scouting Department, listens to their show and we have INFLA was his draft capital even better?
When we did the tight end preview show, It's like, it's a tough show to do because a lot of these guys are not going to translate. The draft ord is gonna look different, like what Tip Raymond was the third tight end drafted, and we talked about him briefly, but like didn't go through it.
Because that dude's gonna block for the true one.
He's like two seventy one. But anyway, it's great, great to see tight ends be able to get drafted, and we have another one to actually work with in Dynasty, all right, Mike two to eleven.
So here is where I'm gonna take a running back. I think the choice between Korum and marsha On Lloyd is a difficult one. Like the situations are their backups, but the situations moving forward, there is a clear path for marsha On Lloyd. The does Josh Jacobs have it anymore because last year he did not? But last year he was fat thor coming in off of absolutely no training camp. Is he more motivated to prove to the Green Bay pay that he is worth the money and he wants to keep collecting big checks from the team. The way that the contract is, the team can essentially get out after year one for not a high penalty, and maybe they turn it over to Marshawn Lloyd. Blake Koram, the Rams and Sean McVay. They are just true fantasy gods and turning in bestowing us mortals with true fantasy running back goodness. But they giveth and they taketh, and they replaceth their running back very frequently. So could it end up being Blake Koram sooner than later? Talking like maybe this year, maybe next year? Uh So which path is the more the path forward? So I'm gonna go. I will take Blake korm right here. It's it's really really tough. Marshall Lloyd might even be higher in my rankings, but it's just this, how do I feel when I wake up between Korum and Marshawn Lloyd and the touchdowns are incredible? If he be if he becomes the guy, that's my tiebreaker. If Korum becomes the guy for the Rams, he's gonna be awesome. If marsh On Lloyd becomes the guy for Green Bay, he might be awesome.
I like that tiebreaker. I prefer the talent of Lloyd over Blake Korham. But obviously the system, like the the you know where where McVeigh always employs one guy who he wants someone on the field all the time as much as possible, and no matter who it's been, they've been successful for Fantasy. Whereas Green Bay they they always talk about I mean even when they were talking about Marshall Lloyd, his reasoning was, well, you know me, I believe we need a multiple back system like that's his that's his actual he wants to split reps between backs. So I like that. I I haven't thought about it like that. I've got Marshall Lloyd above Blake corm and my rankings because of my belief in the players themselves, which is that's very fair. But you're I'm switching it. I'm gonna switch it. Yeah, I think I think that's how I need to go. Check Meyer. I think that is right. I mean they're back to back, it's really close between each of them, but you're right. And also Kyrien Williams, he's under contract for this season and next season. But if you don't think that the Rams learned a lesson paying big money to Todd Gurley and then paying huge money to not have Todd Gurley, that lesson will be learned. I think that this is a succession plan no matter what. So even if it takes two years and it doesn't happen earlier, Blakecorn will probably be the next Rams big thing.
Yeah, I'll finish it out and keep it simple. With Lloyd, we took him in a league as a insurance for policy for Josh Jacobs.
So I think that's smart. I thought it was a savvy move. Yep.
And then we don't have to go dep because all the rankings are there in the UdK plus. But third round names that I just want to at least throw outs. I love Javon Baker for the Patriots, like there's a non zero chance that he ends up being the better rookie wide receiver. Jalen Polk Malachai Corley is also interesting, especially you Knowlizard and Mike Williams, like they can move on after this year. Any quick third round names you just want to throw out name only.
I think Ray Davis is interesting as well as love Ray Davis. I do running back for Buffalo. Yeah, running back for Buffalo. Look, Buffalo likes heavier, older running back to the goal line. Yeah, so they drafted it's their favorite. They drafted at an old, heavy running back. It's great. And Isaac Garrindo is a good stash maybe maybe a probably fourth round.
And then let's let's see, Kyle, do you have one off the top of your head.
All right, good, Kyle, I'm sorry best.
I was gonna throw out Jilly McMillan's kind of an interesting guy in round three. He went in the third round to the Bucks. Obviously they just resigned Mike Evans to a massive deal. But Chris Godwin might not be there starting next year. And Trey Palmer was kind of just fine last year, so he has a path. Maybe it's late in the year this year, maybe it's next year, but actually two years ago in this Washington offense, he actually led this offense. It had had Jyleen Polk in receiving touchdowns and he had more yards than Jayleen Polk. And then he dealt with injury this past year. So I think there's a little something there with Jalen McMillan.
I like that a lot, and I'll throw out the situation is funny because look, devontees Walker is like when I like that, dude's a raven that it makes there's just this weird natural fit of of how I see him as a player. But unfortunately that depth chart is that'll be nasty for a fourth rounder to try and rise up. They just extended Rashaan Bateman. Zay Flowers was there.
Number one why they did that, by the.
Way, extend him because he well and also he I just read about this and it was like, oh, that's an interesting thing. Remember when he showed up on the like like he didn't report to training camp last year. Something happened where like it messed up the tolling of his contract, like the accrude seasons that he has. At least this was what I was reading in a tweet, so that didn't very probably should have verified this before I was talking about it on the podcast, but I think that that may have a something to do with it. So they also Bateman was Babman was opened way more than you than the statistics show for like his his year was wasted. But on film there were many many times where I saw Ershod Bateman opened that Lamar just didn't find him. But anyway, at the point being that depth chart is clogged, but I think that tedes Walker is a good player.
I don't think it's that. I don't think it's as clogged as as you think. I mean, you're talking about I'm and I in Mark Andrews as well. Odell Beckham was there and had targets and is gone. And obviously now you're he's just gotta beat Nelson Agalar. If he beats Nelson Aguilar, he's I'm.
Bumping him up to be even being the three.
Yeah, I am too. I think I think he will win that depth chart because I like this tape too. He was like to me, he was a poor means at and I Mitchell, but he's got a lot of the same you know, height, speed, downfield ability and that could match up well with Lamar.
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