Dynasty RB Debates + Next Tiers, Old People Problems - Dynasty Fantasy Football

Published Jul 24, 2024, 9:00 AM

Running back rankings and debates on today’s dynasty fantasy football podcast! Borg, Betz, and Mike discuss the “next tier” of dynasty RBs. Who is being undervalued in dynasty leagues? How much do offensive line rankings matter? Rachaad White, Derrick Henry, Joe Mixon and many more players discussed on this episode! Join Borg, Betz, and a Baller each week to take your Dynasty fantasy football game to the next level and dominate your league -- Fantasy Football Podcast for July 24th, 2024.

 

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Welcome to the Fantasy Footballer's Dynasty podcast with Borg Bets and a baller.

Welcome in.

This Fantasy Footballer's Dynasty podcast. I'm your host, thirty seven year old Kyle Worganoni, and I'm joined by Matthew Betts and Mike Right.

You are so old, dude. Yeah, Happy birthday to Kyle. This is this is the birthday bash for Kyle.

Everyone.

Hope everyone was able to reach him on Twitter or x or whatever we're calling it. I wish Kyle happy birthday. He is if he can figure out how to use social media. You know, he's he's kind of still on MySpace and all that. He's he's a little old. He doesn't know how it works. But had birthday, Kyle. What is on the what's on the docket?

You know, I'm a little too introspective on my birthday. It's like the best part of me and the worst part of me. But like, I actually like to go off by myself for a while. I'll do some family celebration stuff, gifts.

And you're just alone tonight, eating by yourself.

I kind of do like I need some alone time. But Mike was telling me that I've crossed a threshold at this.

You sure have. Yeah, when you look when you turn thirty six and people are like, how old are you? You can either look thirty six, mid thirties and those those. It's true. When you're thirty six, you're you're teetering, you're teetering on the mid But once you're thirty seven, that's late thirties. That's a whole new world. That's you start taking your baby steps. You see things, weird, stuff start to happen, and then you turn forty and your body falls apart.

I hate that. I hate that.

There's a Oh, you can hate it all you want, it's not gonna stop it. Mike.

You sounds like you're speaking from experience.

There.

I am used to be young and spry. Now look at you.

Yeah, old, bloated, slow bets.

You got something coming for you, buddy.

Yeah, this is everybody. This is great. I can't wait for everyone does.

Yeah, well, we've got a good show for you today. We're gonna be talking really uh nastier boys than we want to, and we're talking dynasty running backs. Last week we were with Jason.

Well that's not true.

It is true, Mike, because when I started to get through these tears. Like there, I got to a tier, and I go, do I want any of these players? Like, do I actively want to trade for any.

Of course we do, of course we do, Kyle. We think there's there's no man too nasty for this show. I thank you.

I have found though, and I'll give you some stats later when we get to the first tier, where there's just points of the year that you forget. I mean it's eighteen game season, but like there's little windows of five to six weeks where it's like this guy was a top five running back and he didn't feel that way on your roster. Like when you're looking at your roster and begin the season your flex and you're like, oh, here's all my top guys. You can really win with any combination. So like Mike and our main Ballers Dynasty League, you had your running backs begin the year that you thought these are my one, this is my two, and then over the course of the season, your wide receivers was your strength of your team. But like running back was just like every single week just like oh man, I'm piecing this together of like getting really like good weeks. So I think everybody's kind of in that hole. Unless you have McCaffrey or Bejeon or breast.

Oh in dynasties, I mean, good luck. If you have two starting running backs, you're doing well. Like that's that is how the game is played. Hopefully you have some depth when I'm saying you like, Okay, I got two guys and I feel really good about them starting. That's you're winning, my friend, You're winning.

Betts is trying to poach me in a league where he's trying to take the only starting running backs that I have, just trying and trade me on the cheap.

Wait, what's this all about about that, Mike? We'll talk about it later.

Oh, I'm worried about it. I want to hear about it. This is Dinah Jr. Where Kyle's you know, uncorrelated Josh Allen to Stefan Diggs. Team is now looking like it's it's make like Kyle, it needs to make a decision right You're in the middle tower right now, and you need to either fire or sell all these guys and just rebuild or make a few moves yourself. I'm giving you some advice here on the show, Kyle, make if you moves yourself and go for it again. And now you're in the middle, so I'm just I'm trying to feel you out. You know, do you want some picks? Give me some David Montgomery from my team, which is we'll just see what happens.

I noticed that one of the players you wanted to bring up is one of my players, So I get it. I understand. We'll get to that in this segment later when we talk about the Tears want to highlight the Ultimate Draft Kids specifically. We did some updates this past week on some of our specific research players and sleepers, and I think this is one of my favorite parts of the Ultimate Draft Kits, that it's living, it's breathing, we're changing, and we're updating some of our opinions. Like it's one thing to have an opinion after the NFL draft of I think this is how this is going to turn out, and then it's another thing to actually be able to shift and go, you know what, I'm getting more information. We're getting information from beat writers. For instance, Kendrey Miller is a guy that we talked about on this podcast a couple different times and simply saying he's cheap, you should think about him. Week eighteen, he got the work album, Kamara's contract, Like there was all these situations for us to say, hey, this looks good. And we actually had someone write in on Twitter and they asked, hey, you guys took Kendre Miller off your sleeper list in the Ultimate Draft Kit. What's the point of that? Why did you guys do that? And I thought, like, you know, just to explain, like this is the process for us, this is why we have certain players like he can still hit, but like we're taking everything into account when we put a player as a sleeper, and for us, there's just bad vibes. So do you guys want to talk about the Saints real quick? Because that that part right there, just like I needed to make sure we explain that kind of stuff.

Go ahead, Bets, you were the one who had this info for us.

Yeah, I mean, I think nothing's really changed as far as his outlook from year one to year two and kind of what he went through as a rookie where he missed time the entire offseason recovering from the surgery for his knee then hamstring injury, then he was on ir for like a high nkle sprain in seasons like you just got off to a terrible start, and we were saying, Okay, if Alvin Kamara continues to decline and Jamal Williams might be literal dust at this point in his career unfortunately, then Kendre should have the opportunity there as the RB two. And I still think that range of outcomes as possible, and it could. He could be a guy that really does work out really well for fantasy. And the thing that we need to keep our mind open to is like what happens in camp with him, because the reason we kind of cooled off a little was there were some rumblings out of New Orleans with Nick Underhill covers the team very very well that entering camp, the team seems to be trusting Jamal Williams a lot more. Now, obviously it's training camp, it's still July, like a lot can change, but we were hoping to say, like, Okay, this team has a plan with Kendra, He's gonna take the r W two job and run away with it, and it seems like that hasn't happened yet. I also think too, there's a lot of moving parts with New Orleans. Their offensive line is in shambles currently with Ryan Ramschack going on on a season hunting ir They've been i think ranked thirty second by PFF entering the year, so they've got major issues as a rushing offense as is. And then I think Taysom Hill's going to see a lot of work out.

Of the backfield.

An annoying the amount of work out of the backfield. So Kendri still is a guy that we're all closely monitoring. It's just that he's not where we thought he might be from a progression standpoint entering the season.

Yeah, and I think with a sleeper you factor in all those different things of offensive line. This scheme change, like they're gonna run probably a lot more twelve and thirteen personnel, which is kind of what Kubiak did when he was part of the forty nine ers. And I think this is the strength of the team, Like they have a couple of titands, Taysom Juwan when he's healthy, Foster Morow where Derek Carr was just better in two tight end sets last year. And then you throw in the fact that Taysoum is like another running back. It just it gives us a reason. I mean, Jamal Williams guys was dead last in yards per touch, and I started to look over the last ten years, it's like he put up one of the worst possible seasons you could do in yards per touch. So but he's on this team and he's getting paid and this is the most expensive running back room in the league.

And he scored against the odd touchdown. He did it.

You know, he did it. I just well, there's a lot of stuff about the foul. We just covered the falcons on the main show, and just the whole time, I'm just like, gosh, I hate our stats from last year. I hate every single thing. But Kendre Miller is one of those players that we said you could acquire on the cheap. Hopefully you did, But it doesn't mean right now it's just a loss. It's just we're adjusting when we look at different sleepers. So for instance, we added guys like Jared Goff because of his opening schedule this year, and in Dynasty, these are players that you could hopefully get cheaper. Imagine trying to get Taj Spears in March, where we were like, oh, man, don't do that. But now we kind of see it as like, okay, the values there where you could acquire him, or you could acquire Christian Watson, another player that I think we're all a little higher than maybe people are valuing him right now.

Sure, it's just it's the ever changing market of dynasty fantasy football. When football is not being played, you are trying to react appropriately to small bits of news that we actually get.

So you can get all those updated lists in the Ultimate Draftkit Ultimate Draftkit dot com. And that leads us into a quick question. This one's from Teresa Crawford in Michigan, and she writes in about offensive lines, and I think this is a good little segue also for our running back discussion. But she asks, do you consider the strength of the offensive line of a team when looking at tears for the position? So today we're talking about running back tiers. How do you guys factor that in? Can the offensive line hurt or help the fantasy production of quarterbacks, running backs and wide receivers? And without going at too much, we have some awesome articles on the website from Sam Disorbo who looked at offensive line analysis. What does it do for quarterbacks? What is due for running backs? And for running backs it is much more valuable to get that information and to factor that in. For quarterbacks, it kind of depends because you can look at some teams like the Giants, where it's like every single dropback was them getting pressured and getting sacked. But there's other teams, like for the Dolphins, their offensive line isn't great, but they get the ball out so fast that it's kind of a moot point that you know too, it doesn't get pressured and so what's more valuable to him is the wide receivers. But for running backs, is there any situation you guys see for the offensive line heading into twenty twenty four that you just kind of have your eye on? So Bets, I'll let you go first.

Yeah, I kind of took this question and went a little bit different direction with it. And when I think about offensive line play and I think about, you know, the peak of it right now in fantasy, to me, it's the Lions right ranked number one during the year per PFF. They have a ton of continuity across the entire team, but on the line as well, and we saw Jimier Gibbs and Dave Montgomery be awesome last year. But think about Jared Goff and that, to me, this is kind of where it comes comes down to, like Jared Goff behind any other offensive line is probably not doing what he's doing in Detroit where he's so pressure sensitive, and some quarterbacks are, you know, more than others. But Jared Goff, like when he's in a clean pocket, he's money. When he's Blitzer under pressure kind of falls apart a little bit. And last year from a clean pocket eight point three ypa, seventy six percent completion rate, twenty eight touchdowns, just three interceptions.

He was lights out.

And now you get this offensive line again that projects to be awesome. So like that situation and kind of how it works from a continuity standpoint for Detroit and for Jared Goff, I think is going to set him up for success yet again, which is kind of why we have him in the sleepers category and why I think in super flex leagues like he's an awesome trade target because you don't pay top twelve prices for him, yet he's probably giving you top twelve numbers for most of the year with with how this team projects. So Detroit's offensive line looks fantastic this year.

Yeah, and Mike, you've been over and over again talking about that opening schedule of the Lions just saying like I mean, it's it's juicy, and even like in one quarterback leagues, it's like you can feel confident for the first what like five or six weeks that Jared Goff's is going to be a good start.

Yeah, I mean look ways away, but it's we all. If you've got if you have your dynasty roster, you like you like it looking good, right, you want to make sure that this thing has brushed its teeth, it has had a bath, it's all dressed up, it's ready for the show. Because whenever someone in your in your league would when they click on your roster, I guess there's there's different approaches. But over the offseason, I like to go with the one of just like showing my absolute optimal strength so that when people click on my on my lineup, they go, oh, I better do something. And but where there's a little bit missing, because like in terms of the platform's projected points is I have Joe Burrow and I have Jared Goff. Jared Goff is chilling in that starting spot because I'm giving him a little bit of a confidence. But you have of like of thank you if you know I'm sending him. I'm sending the vibes, boys, the vibes, and it's like a week one unless something crazy happens over the next month and a half. It's like I won't be playing Jared Goff week one over Joe Burrow. I don't remember. I can look it up, but it's like I don't remember Burrow's matchup, but it's not let's see, it's the Patriots. Like would you rather play against the Patriots or at home on Sunday night against the Rains. Yeah, So it's im I'm all for everything you just said about Jared Goff and it's just honestly, the quick answer to the offensive line question is yeah, it it matters a ton. It just it matters a ton. So when in the draft, in the NFL Draft, when you see a team take an offensive lineman early and you're like, oh, it feels boring. These these are planting the seeds of fantasy greatness when you that's part of why San Francisco has just been awesome, like in these chunks for years, is like their offensive line has been incredible, Like that's something that they I mean, they stole Trent Williams for nothingness and it's they they understand one of the teams that understand that you have to build in you. You have to build up the line or your your team is nothing.

So my takeaway is, Mike is one your team has to brush their teeth. They got to go to the bathhouse together, and then you're you're sitting down.

I want them, I want them clean.

Man.

No, no stank, no nasty.

And that's why you're sitting down Burrow because of his stank haircut, Like, that's why you're doing Oh my god.

I knew you bring that up today, Kyle. I just knew. I mean, he he could have shown it. Bets, he could have shown up with the exact same haircut that he's always had. And Kyle Man is stupidas stupid faces, stupid hair Now boys, Joe Burrow.

I don't have the data and the analytics on this, but I don't know if you saw Jamar Chase also came in to camp with a buzz cut, so that stack.

I mean, but did he bleach? He did not bleach. That's what you think is your biggest from the.

Bleach or the buzz the bleach, it's definite.

What's wrong with it? Man? Like this. Hey, hey, hey, I'm off. Welcome in, old man. I'm off for.

Him expressing himself. Cool with that. The kids, the kids who want to do that, that's fine.

Joe Burrows a kid, dude, Kyle is going to be in shambles when Burrow comes out and wins MVP this year or something.

It's gonna be great. The nineties are back for the young people. I do like that. I do like that. I mean it's fun, but I'm saying like it's weird and it's Look, we got Joe Burrow shaving and bleaching his hair. It would not surprise me if that was like the thing again.

I I want to follow up just kind of put a final thing on this offensive line. Is that continuity you talked about a little bit, It's just like year to year. We want to make sure this is a group that's like intact. But also it's hard. We can't project this, but health matters so much, and I think we don't realize that we don't have the same group out there. It's just so hard to replicate. So for instance, last year the Bengals, they had the same offensive line, same five guys, ninety six percent of their snaps I was number one in the NFL. The Texans were the exact opposite. They lost the most games. And so I'm looking at Joe Mixon and thinking, Okay, last year he had this line, he's running out of shotgun. Now he's moving over to Houston and they're talking about and he's still bad that he's he's still an inefficient running back.

Yeah.

True, But my point is more saying you could look at that and go, oh, look at Houston. Their offensive line was bad, like they never played together. They were the most expensive offensive line, so year to year there's an element of you can't project how many games this team is going to miss it their line, And so I look at Joe Mixon, who's always kind of run with light boxes, like out of shotgun, three wide receivers on the field. I think that's what Houston's gonna try to do this year. They I feel like last year they tried to be San Francisco, like Bobby Slowick tried to say, Hey, I want to do the Kyle Shannon offense. That's where I'm from, and they just couldn't run the ball effectively at the beginning of the year, and over time they realized with CJ. Stravileck. Let's just let this guy cook. With Diggs coming over, I think there's gonna be more three wide receiver sets. He's gonna get to run with lighter boxes, and I think that fits well. So when I look at a player like Mixin, I agree Mike, like I, his numbers scare me. And yet when I look at the scheme, I look at the offense, and then I think of the offensive line being healthier than it should be. I mean, last year I found this stat the most games lost from offensive line since two thousand and one. I mean, they're just like, we're dead out there. So I think Joe be fine on how good was last year? Yes, yes, that's even more so. So I think it matters a lot. I think it's also really hard to project. This sound's gonna be like Dallas. Like Dallas has always had a good offensive line, They've also had years where just their dudes got hurt and you couldn't do anything about it. So I don't know. I hate that there's parts of the game that you can project, and then there's parts of the game they're just so out of your control that you have no idea. I mean, that's the six sick twisted game that we play.

But that's like, if that part didn't happen, then the game would be boring. If you knew exactly what was gonna happen and you could project, you know, with eighty plus percent accuracy, then it's not like, yeah, I don't know. Embrace the chaos. That's the take.

I want the chaos. I also just want my spreadsheets to make sense sometimes, and sometimes they will never make sense because it's just like that whole offensive line got hurt. Who cares what you think?

That's true.

So we're gonna take a quick break and then we're gonna talk about these tears all right. Before we hop in the tears, I wanted to give you guys a couple of names that last year we're basically top ten running backs for a stretch, okay, And the one that I always see stands out and we'll talk about him today was nobody was going into last year saying where he moster is going to be the RB two, especially in Dynasty, like, oh man, this guy I want to trade for him. And yet there's people like Andy that just said, like I'm just gonna stay with him, and teams got stronger.

Oh, I'm sure Andy would have traded him if he could, but nobody want Nobody wanted raheem mostered.

Another player from weeks one through eleven and I had to like make sure like it did not feel this way, but Brian Robinson Junior was the RB four for eleven weeks.

It's a little juice though, that is how I remember it, Like I feel like it was.

Receiving touchdowns were definitely juiced up.

Hell Week two against Denver he scored twenty eight half twenty eight points and a half points scoring format. And then week ten or nearly twenty five, like he's got some some decent ones in there, but he he he really helped elevate himself with two monster weeks.

The Gus Bus was the RB six for the first eleven weeks. It was really only like four weeks though. Remember we had that stretch where he just scored like a ton of touchdowns.

Yeah, remember how good JK Dobbins was going to be?

Guys, which year which year?

Last year? Last year?

I really think it will. I mean, if you were on JK last year, I think that was right. It's just it stinks, man.

Yeah, process over results as we cry ourselves to.

Exactly, Mike, did you see how much guaranteed money he has this year? JK.

Dobbins. Yeah, it was like like fifty thousand ors.

J fifty K two leg or whatever we're calling him.

That's man, dude, It's just this unfair business, all right.

A couple more this was down the stretch, and I think finding windows for some of these running backs that are older that you think, Okay, they don't have any value, Like we're obviously trying to stockpile our benches with these running backs. From week thirteen on, James Connor was the RB two, okay, so like if you got into the playoffs with James Connor, uh, you could just ride him. Zeke somehow was the RB nine from week thirteen on. But it was like pure opportunities, no efficiency. But I mean, imagine getting to play Zeke as a flex in a half point league, just based on opportunities. And then Cuba was a really awesome player to feel like you just kind of stumbled into at the end of He's RB thirteen from week thirteen on. Lots of opportunities and this year he's gonna get some run. To the beginning of the year, so a player that you probably thought a year or two and like, okay, this is just bench fodder. This isn't gonna matter. We're trying to find those, so we're gonna help you guys today. Mind those guys.

Out st rankings.

If you want to go back to last week's episode, we did our first four tiers with the top thirteen running backs. That's where the tier ended, and today we're gonna start with tier five, and guys, naming this tier these tiers is not the easiest category because you're trying to lump in a bunch of dudes that don't all fit the narrative. But like, just just roll with me here. So Tier five here, I'm calling strong floors terrified twenty twenty fives, meaning like I don't know what they're going to be in twenty twenty five, rolls off the top just like Yeah, T shirts are being made right now and printed everywhere.

Do you spend any amount of time on them? Literally?

Two seconds? Not as much time as watching Kate Aughton film.

Though, oh my god, my god, you are disgusting human being, sick person Kyle tweeting out Kate Oughton propaganda.

Guys, most snaps for a tight end in like the last eight years.

Oh, I know, I know, as I played him quite a few times in DFS and I told my he's getting the most snaps.

Did you not play him in your routes run League?

No?

I did not, Kate Oxen, man, he's the man. Let's talk about these running backs here. So we have Rashad White, Josh Jacobs, DeAndre Swift, Joe Mixon. At the very end of this tier, we have Trey Benson. What's interesting about this tier is we have a couple guys on new teams that have been established guys for fantasy, Like Josh Jacobs. We've seen him leave the league in rushing. DeAndre Swift, we've seen him receive a lot of Dynasty hype and kind of in the same spot. He's on Chicago now, Joe Mixon the aforementioned guy now and with the Texans. But are you actively before we talk about these guys, are you actively trading for anybody in this tier? So Rashad White, Josh Jacobs, DeAndre Swift, Joe Mixon or Trey Benson. And Trey Benson is one of those guys that's like if somebody drafted him. They don't probably want to part with him right away.

No, is the cost to get Trey Benson and the fact that he's like this this year is should be he'll get some work. I still expect James Connor to be the you know, like the main running back for the years on the Cardinals, and Trey Benson's kind of a an investment into the future. Which it's good to tick those because I think Trey Benson is an excellent player, but it's it's I don't think it'll be great this year, is unless Connor misses a good amount of time, which he'll he'll miss a few games. These other guys, though, are honest, This list is it's this is a terrifying.

Guys, We're at rby fish.

This is a terrifying We're not even gonna get to like this.

Year RB twenty four. I mean, we're gonna talk about RB thirty later, but like this is a top fifteen dynasty running back and we're already at the point we're going, oh my gosh, I couldn't even trade for these guys.

It's look, Rashad White should be the one that you want, like of these guys should be and he's just he has been he has been so inefficient with with the work that he has given. It's just he is he has James robinsoning in terms of his volume right now of like it's unbelievable and it just it's it feels like that is unsustainable. And Joe Mixon is we already kind of dunked on him, but like he should be in a good situation, but he is. He is at the running back Agecliff. He's twenty eight, and I know he got the new contract, but he's in a new team, new scheme, and he's at the age where things you wake up one day and you go, I don't have it anymore, because that that's what happens to running backs is you literally are like, this player is great, it it can happen again, and then it's it is gone. They're just toast. And Denry Swift is just no one wants him on the team three a third team in three years. Josh Jacobs from leading the league in rushing to being just looking like he was an average running back. This section stinks, man, Bets. I'm not actively trading for anyone in this.

That's what when I put the question down I was like, I don't know how they're gonna feel. Bets, are you trying to trade for any of these guys in Dynasty.

I'm not.

No, there's so much, so much concern about these guys from a twenty twenty five and beyond standpoint. I mean even this year like this, like twenty twenty five kind of yeah, these guys all feel so fragile in terms of their value moving forward. But when we did that startup a month ago, the three of us, this is why I kept being like, I'm not taking a running back here, Like I kept being like, I'm not doing these guys and they don't really have, in my opinion, a ton of value if you trade for them that you'll be able to kind of flip or turn around. So it kind of feels like one of those not dead roster spots because they're gonna give your team points. But like you know, when you look back at the end of the year, these guys are probably losing value almost almost certainly, right, DeAndre Swift is he's wild man. Like Mike said, he it is not good that this guy's on his third team in three years. That alone is red flag. I also cannot get over the fact that the Eagles, who just played in a Super Bowl months before, looked like a Super Bowl potential contender, said, you know what, Kenny Gamewell is our guy entering Week one. He almost didn't play in Week one for a team that was supposed to be a Super Bowl contending team. Like they literally made the conscious effort of saying, we saw you all camp, Kenny game Well's our dude. But Kenny gamewaal got a rib injury and then Swift came and took the job and ran away as he probably should have.

But like that, just that says so much to.

Me about a guy that was pretty bad from an efficiency standpoint behind one of, if not the league's best offensive lines with you know, forty third in Brooken tackle rate, forty third in the Lucid rainning fifty eight, then yards after contact per attempt. I mean, Swift is just a dude, unfortunately as a runner, and he goes to a worst offensive one.

He's not just a okay as a runner as runner, Yeah, he's not just a dude as an athlete, no like, but it just at this point, it's quite the bet by the Bears to say, with the money that they gave him and be like, oh no, this is the year it's all gonna come together for DeAndre Swift and be a complete package as a football player and not just a person who's really athletic and can take advantage of some opportunities. But then just when there's other things where you're like, oh, dude, an average football running back breaks that tackle or reads that correctly, it's yeah, remember going back to the line. But they're invested.

They are invested, which is wild. And he was the fresh Lion right for minutes after a free agency opened.

Undersiff like the first and I don't know that was first, but it was. It happened right away.

But with the Lions, like, remember we saw flashes of like I think they were they on Hard Knocks a couple of years ago before they were one of the shows that they were on. I can't remember which one it was, but like he's coming off the sideline and they're like, you got to hit this hole, like you're not reading it. Like we kind of saw signs of that early in his career. And like Mike said, now he's just changing teams again. I'm not gonna lie. This feels a lot like Miles Sanders two point zero, where it's like, well, they gave him the money, so like he's probably gonna be fine. But at some point you just got to kind of accept to a player is And I feel like Swift still in Dynasty players' minds, myself included, because I love them coming out of Georgia, is the guy that we thought of like great draft capital, awesome production profile, like he's gonna be great, and I just feel like, in this situation, it's probably not gonna work, especially because his calling cards to a lot of us is pass catching efficiency. You're competing with Romadenz, DJ Moore, Keenan Allen for targets like I don't know, man, So I'm trying to trade away Swift if I can, but I don't know that anybody is like excited to come get him off my roster, right, So it kind of feels like you're stuck.

Some of these running backs, I think the best way to approach them is I think one of them, white Jacob Swift Mixing, is gonna probably end up being a top ten running back. I can't guess which one it is, but I think there will be a point the season if you're not a contender if you wanted to flip one of these guys to somebody else and say, hey, this is a top ten running back and he's been that way for I don't know, eight eight weeks, and it's an offense that you know, the Bears are good, they're contending, obviously, we think the Packers are going to be good. The Texans, like these are teams that are all playoff worthy that I think at the end of the day, a team will come in in your league and say I need running back desperately. Somebody got injured, and you could flip them. We're midseason. You might be able to get a late first. Right now, you get a second for DeAndre Swift. Nobody's given you a first.

No, no, they are not.

I did want to mention Rashad White because I think he's the name that people here and they think, like, this guy was an RB one last year.

What in the world do you do with Rashad White.

So here's my deep dive because Dave Canalis big fan of him as like a motivator and a coach. The running game was bad last year, really really bad. He preached last year that he was going to come in and make it better. Just so you guys know, in twenty twenty two they were thirty second in yards per carry. Dave Canal's comes in, they were thirty second in yards per carry back to back years. And now he's going to the Panthers and saying, I'm going to show you how stubborn I am. We're going to run the ball. So that aside, this team decided that they wanted to keep running the ball on early downs over and over and over again. They did it exactly percent of the time, and it was bad. They were like the worst team running the ball, and yet they did it a ton with arguably the least efficient back in football. So that's the thing about Rashad White is it's like he was available. That was his best characteristic. It was available, running the routes, getting dump offs and touchdowns.

He was fine.

He's about at expectation with that. But year over year, if you're super inefficient, what happens the next year? That's like all I really care about. And so he was below expectation of fantasy points for opportunity. And over the last five years, every single guy who's top ten and below in fantasy points for opportunity. Thirteen or fourteen of them dropped the next year in Fantasy points per game. The average drop was, you know, over three points per game. So I Rashad White is RB I don't know, sixteen or eighteen this year. I feel like he's gonna disappoint. He's gonna be a player that just gets there based on just staying alive and not getting injured when I just feel like there's so many reasons to be out on this Buccaneers team. Like when we highlighted them the other day on the Main Show, I feel like Jason had the same sentiment of like, this team is just across the board. With the new offensive coordinator, they're going to eleven personnel. I'm just worried about this team. So Rashad White feels like a player that I think you want to be ahead of the curve and trade away. Yeah, but you probably need him.

Yeah, Like Rashad White. This is what I mean of, like, what do you do with Rashad White? Because if I have him and I'm making any sort of run this year, the value of him on my team versus a trade is so far leveraged in the value to my team right now, but I know it's at least I feel like in my heart, in my fantasy football knowledge of everything Kyle just said, of this can't it can't keep going. You cannot keep getting away with this as a professional and not have eventually some coach be like, no, We're that's enough of this. Stop it. So if I have him, I'm holding on to him. If I am in a complete rebuild, I'm I think I'm gonna risk it and I'm gonna hold on to him right now and let a market of true contending teams in my league show up and then come after him. But it's it. I think, no matter what you're doing with Rashad White, you're just just admit you're on the side of risk. There's no safe route for how to handle him for a dynasty team.

Would you So let's say that you are a team that midway through the year, you are you know you're not going to contend, would you flip for shod White for Tredy Benson.

Oh yeah, you're time at the halfway points. I would do that right now, Yes, Okay, yeah, that's that's where I was a little hung up of, like.

Because they're in this same tier, right now and I'm looking at these players, and.

But again, if this is that's an investment, it's an investment in the future. For Trey Benson, Forshod White will help you. Now I don't think Trey Benson will.

Okay, so we're on the same page with White.

But before we move out of this conversation with Shad White, Kyle, if you have all the inefficiency metrics, like the you know last year's breakaway rates, so a yarded a run of fifteen plus yards for Shod White, It's it's only a it's under fourteen percent. It's it's very very low, just under Joe Mixon. But the one is at the bottom of this list, that's the one that caught my eye. He's not even a guy we're talking about, but percentage of breakaway runs from Ezekiel Elliott last year on one hundred and eighty four attempts, two point six percent of his run.

Didn't get to that for fifty Mark just couldn't get to that point.

Which boys, I mean we have the nasty boys of the summer that that episode's coming up in a couple of weeks, Zach, a couple weeks. I already know who one of my nasty boys is Rico d You better believe it, oh man.

Mike, Kyle and I were talking about him on DFS and betting, talking about best ball, different conversation, different game, but like we're like, man, like this offense is going to be good. We should want this running back. And then Kyle and I had some research and I was like, you know, he only had one hundred and thirteen career touches to this point and he's about to be twenty six years old, and we were like, that can't be a good recipe for success. Kyle found out what was Kyle? The only player to be in that category is like Anthony Ferkster.

Basically to have that many Fantasy points that many years into your career, right, it's like there's no comps, there's literally none. But it's Dallas, so maybe it's just different and it breaks breaks all of that, but uh yeah, they'll be interesting. Yeah, Zeke was bad, Aj, Dillon Tyler, all Jeer, Rashad White kind of in that same category of break good all right. Next year. I'm calling them stabilizers because I think some of these guys, especially some of the veterans, feel stable for twenty twenty four. I would be happy to have them as an RB two. I still think there's a lot of question marks beyond. But I mean we're getting to the tears now where you're not gonna be able to say, oh, I see the path of this guy. It's it's like you're playing a year at a time. So in Tier six, I have Javonte Williams, David Montgomery, Alvin Kamara, Romandre Stevenson, Derrick Henry, and Tony Pollard, and I wanted to first start talking about the King Derrick Henry.

Oh baby, So.

Everything says, I kind of throw out all the age stuff for Derrick Henry.

Yeah, Derrick Henry is he is already an outlier, and uh, coy correct me if I'm wrong. I've this is I'm just firing this off my memory of you're right. I thought I'm right. Oh okay. It was that like once a player is an outlier, like once they have already established I am a true outlier for professional sports, it's like just keep betting on them, like like it's not it's probably not over. It's or it's definitely not over for Derick Henry this year, and it's probably not over for him next year because he is just he is an outlier. So I'm I am very comfortable with if Derek Henry is my RB two in Dynasty. I feel confident this year and next year like I think he'll be a Raven Like he'll pill end up completing the contract. I know it was kind of the contract situation is a little washy for next year, but I my belief is that Henry is locked in for he's their guy for at least the next two years.

Yeah, if you're in a half point format, then I think you can feel comfortable with Henry giving you the touchdowns. You know, help was standing, but this Ravens.

Team, Gus what was the gust bus stat.

Thirteen rushing touchdowns last year?

Yeah, but he was like, oh oh that stretch.

Yeah, he was a top ten guy, wasn't He was twenty just being Gus Edwards. So well, I think talk about better.

We're gonna talk about Gus later, so don't the gust bus. But uh, Derrick Henry, we kind of know what it's been with Tennessee. It's been he was the offense. If they won, he was good. If they were losing, it wasn't as good. But I think with this scheme and Tom Monkins offense, it's running out of shotgun and Dereck Henry didn't get a ton of opportunities to do that in Tennessee, but when he did last two years, uh five point three and five point in yards per carry out a shotgun. So it's a different look for Derrick Henry than what we've seen in this I formation. You know, Ryan Tannehill a little bit slower style offense. We do know that he you know, just is not gonna be out there on third downs like over the last five years. Guys, he has two total receptions on third down two over the last five years.

But I don't care.

But it doesn't matter because he's gonna keep getting work over and over and over again on first downs. And if you didn't know, first downs happened way more than third downs because you can just keep resetting. So he's gonna be fine, just as Hill will have games where he's annoying though I can just see.

Yeah, absolutely, But just dude, the the read option with Derrick Henry and Lamar Jackson is I'm just offensively. I'm not talking for fantasy specific, just a defender if you are if you see the read option, you I feel like you have no choice, but you have to hit Derrick Henry cause if like, if you're you know, if if you're wrong or if you're right and it's going to Henry, that's that's your opportunity. It's right there. If you don't stop him at that moment, he's gonna rip off a good chunkage of yardage. But then if you are wrong, it's now lightning fast Lamar Jackson. It's just it's wild, and I'm really excited for for the Ravens offense yet again.

Two Heisman winners. Pretty awesome, pretty cool, It's great bets. Are you actively trading for any of these guys in this tier?

I mean this tier is one of the team. Yeah, there's one that's on your team that I wouldn't mind having in David Montgomery, But like just thinking about like the Rashab White DeAndre Swift's discussion that we just had, like that kind of tier, Like, yeah, they're younger, so in theory they have more dynasty value, but like once you get to this point, once you're beyond like the top five names in dynasty, like I kind of play it like a redraft League if within reason of trading, of course, but like if I can get Derrick Henry and trade away Rashab White and get something else and saying, look, I'm trading for almost a thirty one year old running back. You know you gotta give me something else back, Like I would rather have that combo whatever that is, than Rashaun White. And to Mike's point, like we've just seen these running backs with the Ravens next to Lamar Jackson be wildly efficient, like Gus Eedwards is averaging over five yards per Kerry year every year.

I mean JK.

Dobbins when he has been healthy, has been efficient, Like it just works in this backfield. So I think Derrick Henry in particular is such an interesting, like gross trade target that you're like, I know I shouldn't do this. Everything in my process is I shouldn't be trading for a thirty year old running back who turns thirty one in January, changing teams for the first time in his career. Like it all says it shouldn't work, But I think it's gonna work, and I'm fine to live with that. In Dynasty and just know that you probably only have maybe two years of it working. But with the cost to acquire someone like that so low to give you potential top twelve numbers, I think it makes a lot of sense. So like I like Derrick Henry this year. I like David Montgomery because of the offense in the scheme. I think Javon Say Williams is fascinating, right because of all the stuff coming out of Denver. Oh my gosh, dude, all that, But we we thought so sad him. I think there's a little window to go get him. And what's the worst thing that happens. He gets cut and he goes and signs with Dallas. I mean, like, I still think.

The worst case scenarios is he's cut and then it's just he's a backup.

But he's getting another contract, is what I'm saying. Right now, everyone's terrified for Jamonte Williams.

I don't I think that it's twenty four years from Denver. If he gets got he will get a contract. He will get yes, but it I mean there's so few locations where you would actually have hope. I mean we've look, we've played the Dallas game for years with in fantasy football, Like, if we could just get them to Dallas. It's like, that's it's one location at thirty two. Man, it's like if if Javante were in super hy hypothetical land. But it's like, if Johanta go to Dallas, Okay, yeah, I'll have there'll be there's a path, there'll be some optism. If he goes to the Chargers, Okay, there's a path, there's some optimism. But us that's two out of thirty two. I should he end up getting cut? It's you are you are dancing with the devil with Javonte or his knee is actually much much better this year and he still plays with in Sean Payton's offense, so he's getting fifty plus receptions and then and he remains the primary ball carrier and primary goal line back.

Four touchdowns total on the season.

Don't worry about that.

Yeah, where are you guys at with that camp stuff with Javonte? Because if you're on the other side of it of like this seems fishy, you have a little window right now to go get him.

Oh it's fishy.

The the stuff of like that, the Rookie Audric estimate, and then Juliet and Juliam McLoughlin, like those are the only two locks? Is that the news you're talking about? I mean it's quote unquote news. It's not really news, just beat right, a speculation of like it seems like Javonte and p Ryan are battling for one spot. I mean, if they choose someaj p Ryan over Javonte Williams, that says a lot and I would just be absolutely floored. So my personal take is if there.

Is someone in this tier that can return Maje like, be a huge win for you in twenty twenty five and maybe even this year, it's Javonte based off his talent and age.

Sure, but let's let's stay.

So Blake Watson, Sorry, no, don't do that.

No, we're not going We're not gonna go there looks like a baby.

No, there's not even other Broncos.

Keep going, like if play it out legitimately, if they pick somemaj p Ryan for that last spot, to me, that's more of an endorsement of Audric Estimee coming in and being ready to be there, like the first two downs and then and then Smaji p runs the normal third down guy and then McLoughlin's the package player, Like should you take what are you. How are you spinning this news right now with with estimate? Are you trying to like be like, hey, I'm going to try and flip estimate right now, or I'm going to read into that news and I'm going to see if i can snake estimate real cheap right now? How are you playing that out, Kyle?

I don't I don't like estimate. I don't think that an earth.

It doesn't matter if you like him and like him, you don't like Joe Burrow.

He doesn't like me. No, it's it's more of the fact that an early down grinder on a bad offense.

Just that historically always throws the ball to the.

Running right and it won't be him, It'll be somebody like McLoughlin or somebody else, or p Ryan who caught fifty balls last year.

But if he's on the if he's on the field, then first a second down, he's gonna get He's gonna catch the ball.

He's he's not the answer famous last words, famous, what's just please?

I am not. This is not the pro estimate talent part of the show. This is all what is just opportunity.

And that's usually the like just in general situation, gets you in trouble a lot in Dynasty especially, But yeah, when have we ever seen a daithy running back? Who oh, by the way, has missed almost the entire off season to this point. He's healthy now, but like he missed spring because of a scope on his knee. But all beat reporters are like, dude's a locke, Like how much is Champayne love this dude? Apparently a lot there was. I thought I saw a report they had a third round grade on him. Okay, yeah, I think they did trade up for him, didn't they.

Yeah, they had a first round grade on Troy Franklin too, though.

No, don't worry about that.

I just made out.

My personal take is if there's if there's a window to get a return on estimate from an investment standpoint of, like I took him in the third I can filim for a second, I'm probably doing it.

Yeah, all right, let's take a quick break. We'll get to some more tiers. All right, we're on to tiers seven. We're gonna move a little quicker. I'm calling this one one year and poof, because a year from now it's kind of been the theme who really knows? So these Steelers running backs are here, and they're very interesting because they're both in the final year of their contract, so we don't know specifically what the Steelers' plans are next year. We do know what their plans are this year, and it's to establish it over and over and over again and to give the ball to Cordell Patterson. So Steelers running backs are in this tier. Aaron Jones who looked great at the end of the year, but also a lot older. Taj Spears, Zimir White, the ultimate what could happen this year? Who really knows? James Connor we talked about him earlier, got one year left under contract, who knows after that? And then some other interesting names in here. Zach Charbonay is in the middle of this tier. No idea what to do with him?

In dinasds are you doing?

He's like just young, Like like Dynasty tiers are funny because there's certain players that are just young enough despite not doing anything last year, that you can't like completely punish them. And yet like it's really hard to trade to give a case to trade for Zach Charboney right now, Like what what do you what do you have to say? Like Keith Walker gets hurt. That's it, right, Yeah, I think that is. I mean he was disappointing, but in the in a couple of weeks where it was no Walker like it really it was the charb Show.

So like you have you can do. I hate being in year two be like but the prospect like yeah, but we're we're in the NFL. Now he's not a prospect anymore. He is a veteran player. Uh So I hate going back to that, but I will. It's the prospect of sharbon. Ay really liked the player. The draft capital is there, well rounded and if and it's the it's the comfort is those percentages when Walker didn't play of true workhorse like a lot of times you have your your backup running backs like like this, the starter gets hurt and now you just see a platoon over You're like, well, I got the guy that's getting fifty one percent of the snaps and can they even do anything with that? So he is valuing out Sharbon eight right now is extremely hard probably just far more valuable to the manager who has Walker at this point.

Bets you have James Connor on here and if you are a contender, is probably somebody that you can think about saying, hey, I'm believing this offense. They were really good with Kyler when he returned. So what's kind of the price for somebody like James Connor in this tier?

A late second?

I don't want that mid second. I don't know it's someone who has James Connor. I will not take a mid second.

Well, if you're not competing, you're just gonna let that just slowly.

Have my team appreciate it. Are we having a trade conversation?

Yes, I've had a couple of trade conversations about you have Connor. Connor and Montgomery, both guys that, like you can see the case they can help your team. But I know I probably won't get as much in return right now as I think they're.

Worth for a second.

Three and a half months, the season's come into a close. Kyle holds onto both guys and he's like, I would love an second. I would love an extra second for this upcoming class.

I can guarantee you got like an actual offer of a second for James Connor, and you turned.

To no, I got an actual offer for Montgomery for a second.

Okay, okay, okay, well show okay. I don't know if you should trade Connor for a second, but that that's probably what is general.

Yeah, that's probably what his general prices because you're not getting first obviously, but you're in the third, so it's probably a second. But like Connor was good last year, man coming off his best season in yards per care, yards per touch, broken tackle rate per attempt, and Jonathan Gannon has openly talked about like how much they love James Connor. And when Kyler Murray returned to the lineup, this was a top ten team in EPA per play, And you talked about some of the numbers with Connor at the top of the show of like week thirteen on or Week twelve on or whatever it was. That's when Kyler was fully healthy. So I think James Connor is going to be awesome this year. And I think the Benson pick to me honestly was a twenty twenty five like let's plan for life after Connor situation. Remember too, Benson going back to his Florida State d's was never a bell cow not saying he can't be in the NFL, But like, best case scenario for me for Benson is he's probably at the best case assuming Connor stays healthy. Is like at the end of the year he started to eat into him a little bit, as like a change.

Of paced tip of guy. That's how I see it.

So as a contender, Connor's going to cost you almost nothing to potentially give you fringe RB one numbers. I think Connor is a pretty fun trade target, even knowing he's at the wrong part of his career twenty nine years old. All that you have to understand what you're doing when you get him. But if you're in it to win at a top three or four team, it makes sense to me.

Yeah, that's the problem is if you get a second it ends up becoming the two to ten, the two eleven, and then I look up, like, God, is that what I really want for James Connor. But I think he's a valuable player. I think that you're gonna be able to get RB two flex type weeks from him. Quick thought, guys on the Steelers, do you have any read of what you would do with these guys knowing they're not in a contract for twenty twenty five, Because I think we all think like, oh, Warrens and work explosive player. They're pretty much the same age, So It's like, so I don't really know what to do at all with those players, but I know they're gonna get the touches. I know it's a backfield that I want for twenty twenty four. I just don't want to get dupe for twenty twenty five when these guys are like in a committee somewhere else.

Man it, I'm trying to I'm gonna pull up Warren's numbers from last year, Like I think the the raw numbers are good, you know, five point three in attempt, Like that's that's tremendous. He is the backup running back, So like they're you're seeing different, much different looks than when when Nagy is out there, But then you had seventy four targets, Like that's also fantastic. That's I mean, that's what you want to see. You know, I wanted an efficient running back who's getting a bunch of targets. And yet I I still feel like between the two of them, I'm gonna bet on I'm gonna bet on Nagy of just especially looking at what this team is and it's still Mike Tomlin's team, the identity that he likes to have with football. Yeah, it's not. It's not the three down guy anymore, which I'm sure that's what they thought they were drafting. When you spend a first rounder on a running back, you should be like, this guy's gonna be my three down guy. It didn't work out, but the it's been man like a real roller coaster. Per Naji. Let me ask Let me ask you guys this question. Is Naji Harris a good running back?

A good NFL running back? Is he a top sixteen's that's where I put that?

Is it so good? It's like you're right in the middle of being a starting running back. Sure, I'll put it there.

I think he's in that range. I think he's in sixteen to twenty.

That's yeah, I guess I don't know. I mean, everything has fallen off every year he's been in the league, right, so it's like I think he's well, I think he's.

Final sort of sort of. His rushing yards went down from twelve hundred is a rookie to one thy thirty four. The yards per attempt was very inefficient and went down that year and the targets, but then this final year lower snaps, yards per attempt finally over four. Still his over a thousand rushing yards and still catches twenty nine passes like it's not the again, the three down usages where you have Big Ben dumping the ball off to you all the time, like as he did as a rookie, but thirty receptions getting two hundred and fifty plus attempts, like that's that's not terrible. And then with Jayalen Warren, you're just like you're hoping that he has a really big play. I don't know there. I agree, it's a very difficult team to navigate what's going to go on with the running backs, especially them saying no one's under contract for next year. We're going to see who looks the best in this system and then we'll go from there. And I honestly it could be either one or neither, right, like they could just or not go with someone else. Well, it'll of course be Quod Patterson. Let's be honest.

No, it could be no one. They never get a running back on this roster. Ever, Arthur Smith says, no way, I've done way too much of that.

I mean, I will say I'm in on both guys for this year. Again, like the value beyond this year, and that's This is kind of the case for almost all these names that aren't rookies, Like the value beyond this year is a giant unknown. So the reason I'm in on them is because they are literally telling us with their moves, like we do not CARRYO plays wide receiver, and Arthur Smith last year didn't carry who played wide receiver? Right, it's George Pickens. I haven't heard a single thing about Roman Wilson all offseason. We could go wrong there. Apparently Van Jefferson is the lead candidate right now for the wide receiver to job, so they don't care.

Just to also remember, remember like how usually historically we've seen Pittsburgh Steelers wide receivers they hit all like at a very high rate, but it often takes some time for the rookie to do anything.

Yeah, but they My point though, is like it's no question the identity of this team is going to be the running game with Arthur Smith. They do that and then spend a ton of draft capital and picks on offensive line over and over and over again in the draft. So they're telling us what they want to do. It's very obvious. And I think both guys are going to be back and RB two ish type guys, maybe a flex play at worse. So like it's gross, it's not exciting, but like I'm kind of been on both honestly.

With obviously the upside of one of them goes down. Yeah, Jalen Warren has eighty nine receptions in his career, doesn't have a receiving touchdown yet, So that'll shake out. That'll be fun.

End of the year.

This is the year. It's also the year for Josh Jacobs, who has one hundred and ninety seven career receptions and none of them have gone for touchdowns. He needs a five more to break the record. Next tier, Tier eight calling it out with the old in with the new bunch of young guys here that we're drafted this year we think can have a role, but are more plays for twenty twenty five and beyond, So Blake Korum, Marshawn Lloyd, Jalen Wright. There's some other young guys Chase Brown, Kendre Miller, and then a bunch of old dudes in here like Raheem Mostert, Austin Eckler. We don't really know what to do with them, but they're still holding value. And then the guy at the bottom of this tier. I feel like we haven't talked about very much, and he's not really young because he's an old man. It's Ray Davis, but he's a rookie, and I just wanted to quickly talk about him and beyond because we know how much Buffalo loves old people. They love Latavius Murray. I mean, they love that guy to the point of like giving him carries inside the five at a really crazy rate. Ray Davis seems like one of those guys that could easily get in like six seven touchdowns and give you some weeks where you're like, Okay, I kind of gambled, but I got in the end zone. What do you guys think about players like that? Investing in dynasty on players that are like, Okay, he's touchdown dependent, he's older as a prospect, that's not good. He was on three different college teams. I mean, there's just so many things.

That oh, man, you're you're just buttering me up here. Oh you like that, Like, yeah, this is what I'm interested in.

But so what you're saying, he has a lot of experience in college.

Experience is experience. That's what we have to call. So Ray Davis, do you feel like he's one of those players because he's he's going behind guys like Blake Kora and Marshaw Lloyd who were better drafted higher. But I think it's a good situation where you kind of can click copy and paste from what Latavious did last year and go, okay, well this is an older prospect. But seemed like they like the big body down by the goal line where James Cook. Like if you go through and watch the carries I posted online, it's like inside the ten. It just didn't really work last year, and they trust Alan and they trust Ray Davis. I think so is he the type of player that, like, if you have James Cook, you want to acquire just to get the insurance policy because I think he's cheap.

He is cheap. Good, go ahead, bets. I think it makes sense.

The tricky thing is you're gonna pull your hair out when they get into like the six yard line. Here comes Curtis Samuel into the backfield because of Joe Brady, Like that's certainly happening at some point. But no, in all seriousness, I think it makes sense. He is a guy from a prospect standpoint, Like you laid out that there's so many yellow to red flags that you shouldn't really expect this guy to hold or gain a lot of value moving forward. But like just from a this year, if you need a bench guy that you can plug in an injury, or you can if James Cook goes down like those situations, like Ray Davis to me would be the dude in that situation obviously.

So yeah, depending on what.

It takes to get him, if you're a contender, I think it makes sense. I'm not viewing him though, as like I got this rookie, look at this ascending value that I have my roster. I don't see him that way.

Yeah. It's the question when you're talking about these guys is do you is there a ceiling path for Ray Davis? And aside from you know, James Cook missing the entire season or something like that, I don't a true ceiling case is not there. It's always good to have the backups in case the starter miss his time, But I don't know that Ray Davis is someone I'm going after. It's the process is okay, But let me ask you, guys, Uh, where what do you think about Raheem most Art thirty two, thirty two years old. It feels like a reroll in Miami. Some jobs could shift between him and eight Chan. Maybe eight Chan gets a little bit, he gets used more as the younger guy. But like I just made the comment about Derrick Henry, I know that he's an outlier. Is Raheem Mostart an outlier? He's thirty two, His path to the NFL was undrafted. It took like forever for him to get where he is. But where how do you feel about that? Like, is is there a chance that there is two years left of Raheem Mostert?

Yeah, especially if you know you're thinking about it in terms of like miles that he's accrued. It's like the first what four or five years in the league, he had forty carries.

So it's like and he was like top top speed stuff. I mean he's shows up in like next gen top speed reports, so like it's still there.

Yeah, I mean, so like the price is right now. I think if you're trading a second, it's totally fine. Do you think that the most strip manager will part with him for a second?

I think so.

I think so if you have him, you're like I got that that one year. I didn't see that coming. Sweet, it's probably time to cash in is probably how most people view it.

I mean, so, where are you at with most for this year bets? Are you like a full on the hn express of like it's going to be him? Or how are you feeling about it? Honestly, it's wild. I we don't know, right, there's so much unknown with the situation. I think my take is that we should expect more Han usage this year than last year. We just always see, like year one to year two, these these running backs that flash, they get more opportunity in year two. That's the most logical explanation we should see coming.

But right after the season, they kind of reworked ringing deal, got him an extra year on there like a sign of good faith. I think he'll have a role now. Will he be what he was last year? Of course not, But could he be like a flex type play for you on a weekend and week out basis and one of the most efficient offenses in the league. I think that's pretty possible. So obviously it's all about your expectation with him and the team and what you view Achan. But I personally see Chan taking a pretty big step forward in his workload this year, which means by default, I would expect Rahim to come down a little bit.

I don't think you have, so looking at the contract real quick here, Kyle, It's very funny because it is set up for both scenarios completely. Look, he's on the team this year and then heading into twenty twenty five. His dead cap I'm looking at spow Trek. His dead cap is a million dollars. That's absolute nothingness. But his cap hit would be one point four to nine percent of the cap. So it's like they are well done, Miami. That is a that is a contract of perfection, Miami, good work.

I feel like you don't have to feel bad if you're a Dynasty manager and he's your RB three saying I'm just gonna ride this out. I'm gonna ride in the sunset. You know you can. You can try to get ahead of the curve, but not every single player in Dynasty. I'm trying to flip and get value. I like to do that if that's the outcome. But if it's just, Hey, this dude scored twenty one touchdowns last year and it goes down to nine, I think you'd still be happy with nine touchdowns. And I think yes, very real possibility.

I think it's honestly on sportsbooks most half to see just reference perfectly.

So I'm about to run right.

Now as that's very interesting saying like, but so the final conversation of if I have Mostart on my team, I'm not I'm not trading him for it too. I'm gonna say, if I'm caught, hold in the bag, I'm caught. You got me. But that's fine, Like I'll I want to be on that side of the risk unless someone's gonna come in. If someone's like, hey, you know first, okay, then then I'll let you take him and see what happens. But he's but for the most part, I'm probably not trading him.

If you want to get all of our dynasty rankings, can get them in the Dynasty Pass, so there's more tiers, more players get to. We didn't even talk about Gus Edwards too, Mike. We found out today his rushing touchdown line is four and a half. Felt very very very low.

Very low.

That's how we felt too, So in our props we actually uh kind of taken the over on that. So let's finish this thing out, take it or leave it. So we talked about a lot of running backs today that are in that kind of in between zones. Some of them are at the age where it's like I kind of want to sell, but we're also realizing that some of them give you RB two weeks that your team desperately needs. So who are you guys most afraid of dropping in value from this year to next? And who do you think will gain value or maybe who's just gonna hold value? Is there some guys here it's like I can't really see them gain unless there's like an injury or someone else. So bets you go first?

Yeah, I talked a lot about DeAndre Swift. I'm definitely concerned about him losing value after this year, and then it feels like a copad answer. It's kind of cheating. But obviously Trey Benson if the team does indeeded move on from James Connor, I think twenty twenty five.

Is the year of Trey Baboo.

He doesn't have to do anything, Like, he really doesn't have to do much this year. It's different than Sharbonay, where sharbon Ay didn't really do a ton, but Walker's still there. I feel like Benson just has to like exist.

He needs to and he's get on the field though.

Yeah, Yeah, he's gonna get on the field. Yeah he will, all right, Mike, who's some people that you're thinking about.

Like so afraid of Louse. I'll go with the player I think that's going to gain the value will be Marshawn Lloyd for the Green Bay Packers. Of I'm just I'm betting against Josh Jacobs betting that two years ago was that was the magic gear? Players get magic years. Not everyone gets one, but you usually get one. And I think that that was it for Josh Jacobs, someone who I would be afraid of losing value would. I mean, it's it's your answer, Kyle, because I think that he is the scariest guy. Where you're sitting at a guy who was an RB one last year. The depth chart says this should be a repeat for Rashad White and Baker Mayfield there just checking it down to him all the time. If he's going to get all the work and all the targets, then it should be just fine. But you could be on an expiring clock there.

Yeah, Rashad White's my answer where it's just I I just can't see it in this part of his career going and then going into year four and then gain value. There's a couple of running backs you mentioned, Marshaun Lloyd. I think Blake Koram is going to just stay steady and then going to next year. I guess I'm a little lower on hiring as well, but I think Blake Koram is going to be involved enough where he's going to be an intriguing player heading into twenty twenty five. It's like, Okay, I want to see what this guy can do.

I mean, if if we stay on the kind of like the current McVeigh running back rotation system, then next year Blake Korams should be a workhorse and be incredible.

It'll be a first round pick. It'll be perfect. That's gonna do it for us. We're gonna be talking about dynasty quarterbacks coming up. We got our Nasty Boys episode and then we'll begin into preseason. A lot of good stuff coming up Fantasy Baller's Dynasty Podcast. We'll talk to again next week.

Goodbye, everybody.

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