Dynasty Overreactions + Week 2 Storylines - Dynasty Fantasy Football

Published Sep 13, 2023, 9:00 AM

Week 1 reactions and overreactions for dynasty leagues! On today’s dynasty fantasy football podcast, Borg, Betz, and Jason discuss the biggest dynasty storylines including the Falcons rushing attack, Jordan Love's emergence, and how to handle the Tee Higgins disappearing act. Join Borg, Betz, and a Baller each week to take your Dynasty fantasy football game to the next level and dominate your league -- Fantasy Football Podcast for September 13th, 2023.

 

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Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Dynasty Podcast with Borg Bets and a Baller.

Welcome in.

Wednesday, September twelfth, the first ever in season Dynasty podcast. Guys, we're here. I'm joined by Jason Moore and Matthadis.

Can't believe it. Man, who would have thought we'd make it in season? They thought they would cancel us before we got here. But no, baby, we're not going away.

They said it couldn't happen. They said there was nothing to talk about, right, Like, oh, it's just Dynasty. We have a ton to talk about. And the best part is the NFL for better or for worse kind of rights itself. And I was thinking about this earlier today and Jason, you know, you're a businessman, you runs business, but like, how awesome is it to run a business around something that basically just all the time has something to talk about?

Oh? It is a delight. I mean. The nice thing is, you know, I've so I've as you said, I've I've had some businesses in the past. My first large scale business was centered around MySpace, if some of our listening audience can remember what that is, and that didn't go so well for the long term, they folded and then eventually Facebook Gaming was huge, had a big company there. That's actually where the ballers all met well, worked together for a good decade, and Facebook Gaming went away. But the NFL, the NFL is celebrating over one hundred years and they're doing just fine. We went down to the NFL studios, their new headquarters a couple of weeks ago, to celebrate this podcast and the inclusion, you know, as part of the NFL network of podcasts, and they are doing all right. I can first hand, I can tell you right now the NFL. They are a good, well oiled machine.

I think that Thursdy n It game wasn't it up twenty six percent compared to last year in terms of viewers in Week one against it was the Chiefs and Lines. That was insane, that number that came out at stat. Yeah, the NFL is here to stay.

It's it's funny because it's not static. It's not boring. Even if there's teams that you know, people that didn't they just like, okay, well just the Cowboys, that's the famous team. There's the Steelers, Patriots. It's like, no, every single team has a storyline, even the Cardinals it's like, oh, their storyline is what are they running out there? And what are they going for next year? There's just so much it writes itself. And so Jason, all took is for you to figure out over the years to just attach yourself to a behemoth and we're going to ride this thing Dynasty style.

Mm hmm. That's right. We always we want to ride it and we want to write it hard, and so that's what we're gonna do. Thank you.

That's can't even talk right now. That's exactly you know, in our pre show planning, that was our main main point to bring up. So I'm glad that I got to bring it up.

It was that in my space, those are the two top space top priorities on the show.

I bet if I bet you know you do some searches, you feel you can find some good stuff with my space in Jason Moore's name attached to it.

But uh.

In season for the Dynasty Podcast, people, we will be recapping and then talking about some of the top storylines. For the first week, we will be talking about overreactions. And it's easy to kind of just give a short term view of Okay, here's what happened here's how we adjust. We're also giving the long term outlook of how you can trade players their their values. You know, like, hey, is this player something that I could trade right now or do I need to wait it out? And we're gonna talk about some of this players so you can stick with us all throughout the season. We're gonna be talking about Dynasty value and Dynasty players. But I wanted to start us off with some bench boys. Okay, Leo, bench boys. I want to talk about a player that was on your Dynasty bench because I know that they were out there for people that when you saw them, you're like, this is awesome. They counted no points for my team, but their value is going up. So this isn't a nasty boy anymore. This is a bench boy. This is a level up. So Jason, give me somebody that was on your Dynasty bench that from week one to week two is already ascended in value.

Yeah. So I took this very serious. I went and I looked at my main Dynasty leagues and I said, who that is sitting on my personal bench looks like they are much better off and is a player who got a lot of buzz in the preseason and in training camp. But it's player I think could still even qualify as a nasty boy because not a lot of people know of this guy. It is the second year wide receiver playing his first season in the NFL because he missed his entire rookie year for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Calvin Austen, second year wide receiver for the Steelers. He is a little bitty baby boy. Believe he's five eight one seventy small guy, but lightning fast. I mean we're talking four three two speed. He is also a good wide receiver. A lot of times you got speedy guys. You know you got year Taekwon Thornton's that they can blaze, but you're not one hundred percent sure that they're a good wide receiver. Calvin Ausin was a good wide receiver his last two years in Memphis. You know, he combined for twenty three hundred yards almost twenty touchdowns. Really talented wide receiver and had a lot of buzz through training camp. Training camp was talking about how he's making plays all the time. Then you go into preseason and you saw some handoff, some deep shots looked good. Well, now Week one, the putrid not great, but the offense we saw from the Pittsburgh Steelers against an awesome forty nine Ers defense. It wasn't great, but here was Calvin Austin playing fifty six percent of the snaps already in that week, he received six targets, he broke three tackles. And now you have Deontay Johnson who is probably going to miss several weeks with a new hamstring injury. And you know, there's certain here's a dynasty tip that I personally try to follow, and it's why I have Calvin Austin on my roster. I held on to them all through last year. Certain teams are good at drafting certain types of players. They just are. You want to know who's going to be a good defensive player, just go look at whoever Baltimore drafts. And some of that is not just because of their scouting and their ability to identify the traits that work for certain positions. That's part of it, but some of it is they also have a system in place to train up these new players. They know how to get the most out of them. Well, the Pittsburgh Steelers, I mean, you talk about drafting good wide receivers, you go all I mean you can go way back. But even if you just go back to Antonio Brown, you know, they draft Deontay Johnson, Chase Claypool looked good when he was on their team. You got George Pickens. Hu Jew's been great. Yeah, Juju was a was an awesome player until his knee injury. And so they've got Calvin Austin, who they know held on to through his missed rookie year. I think he gets on the field more and more, and I think he is a really important part of this offense. Because when you think about the Steelers, you think about dink and dunk and short and inefficient and garbage and awful and yeah, et cetera, et cetera. This version of the Pittsburgh Steelers is there's just no explosiveness. There is one super explosive player and it's Calvin Austin. Well there's two, Jalen Warren, but you know he's in the backfield. Calvin Austin will be out wide, stretching the field. He will have some bomb touchdowns and I'm excited to see what he can do. I don't expect him to level up to the tune of you know, a dominant fantasy asset, but I think he can really develop into a player that is someone that you want to throw into lineups for big, explosive production where you know he'll have volatility. But when you're in dynasty leagues, you know when you're starting, you know a lot of dynasty rosters, you're talking three wide receiver, maybe two flex. You're going deep, and there's not players that are deep that I think are going to have the individual game upside of Calvin Austin if he develops, because keep in mind, this is really his rookie season as an NFL player.

He's just so different too than Pickens and Alan Robinson in terms of creating separation, Like that's that's just a different skill set As a whole. I think we would say, like George Pickens, the ceiling is way higher. But at the end of the day, like Calvin Austin could like week to week lead this team in targets, like in short area targets, they might not be as valuable, but he can also hit one deep, Like he's just he's just different than what they have. So I love to pick Jason because he's somebody that hasn't been on my radar. I don't have him in any leagues, So it's kind of nice to say, like, I don't know in a full PPR, like he can be a flex for you.

What's crazy is Calvin Austin is probably on some Dynasty waiver wires. Like we're talking about a guy who was already on your bench, who's leveling up. You should if you're playing in any Dynasty leagues, which you're listening to the Dynasty podcast, I would imagine you play in Dynasty leagues, go check your waiver wires right now for Calvin Austin. He you know, he wasn't a high enough draft capital to keep in all formats last year, so you could add him to your roster.

Now, Betts, why don't you go next with one of the true goats.

According to Arthur Smith, this guy is the goats. I am talking about Tyler Algier. Now, you mentioned these guys kind of like came out of nowhere Week one. Tyler Algier had a great rookie season, set the franchise record for rookie rushing yards. Right, he was great last year over one thousand yards. But as soon as they drafted b Jhon Robinson, you thought this guy's done. He's just on my bench. He has no trade value, Like maybe Bejeon gets hurt and you can play him, But the usage in week one says, maybe we have a guy that you can play as a flex every single week even when Bijeon is healthy. I mean, look at the usage this week. Bjehon of course play more snaps, Ram Moore routes, but Tyler Algier had eighteen opportunities to be Jon sixteen and then more importantly, carries inside the five yard line. Tyler Algier three Bjon zero. Now does that stick the entire season? Probably not right, And I don't think the Falcons are gonna win every game by two or three scores. But Arthur Smith does not care about us in fantasy. He wants to run the ball, and so whenever the Falcons do have a projected positive beam script, I think Tyler Algier is totally startable redraft dynasty leagues. And you thought, you know, when they took b Jon eighth overall, you thought he was done.

I'm in a super flex league where my team is pretty bad, okay, like I don't even have a second starting quarterback okay, because of injuries. I have Kyler and his team's kind of been rebuilding and I've acquired picks, so I was forced to start Tyler all Jyear in my super flex squat and of course I won. So you know, if you're ever in the rebuilding mode and you win, you go like, ah did the This is good? Right? So anyway, Tyler all Jeer, We'll talk more about the Falcons later because I think that's one of the biggest takeaways from a team perspective. Is Algier Bijon what do you do with passing offense? And no, Jason, you have a lot of thoughts.

Oh yeah, well we'll get to that.

Did you say you think they're going to win the division?

I did? I am. I am officially on record saying that I believe they will win the division. I'll take it. I'll take it.

I'm gonna throw out Pookinnakua.

Or yes, this is the number one, like this is the answer to the question. You just got into the doc first.

That's true. And also he's on my bench, so you know in the main Ballers Dynasty League, Jeremy and I picked him up way you know, right after the rookie draft and just been apparently, but we didn't know it was going to happen. I also, this is my favorite nickname from Monday Show, like by far, like Pooka Nakoopa Cup Junior is a such a great nickname. We brought his name up earlier this summer after the draft. It was in early May in our ticket to Leave It segment where we just threw out a thought and all we were simply saying is I don't know what he is. He was a target earner at BYU and Sean McVay is one of those players that can scheme players open. So for targets per out run is nuts in Week one that like if you were to hit a number like that, I mean the best in the league Tyreek Hill. They're hitting just above thirty throughout the season, so forty percent week one is nuts. Fifteen targets. I don't think he's going away, And obviously he was a big talking point today on the main show when we talk about redraft. But what do you guys think about Pooka as in Week two against the forty nine ers and then the rest of season. I know we still have so many questions about Cooper Cup when he returns, but I mean, what are your thought on his staying power Jason rest of season.

Yeah, so let's actually look at it longer than that, because this is a Dynasty show and Cooper Cup is long in the tooth. Maybe he gets healthy this year, Maybe he gets back and dominates, Maybe he dominates again next year. There's also the world where he doesn't get back ever again to Cooper Cup full strength, where he comes back and it takes him six weeks to get back and then he reaggravates it again and you know, all of a sudden, now it's a nightmare. There's also the truth that he is now tied to Sean McVay, and Sean McVay committed to this team again this last offseason, and I believe Sean McVay is going to want to prove that he can do it again with the Rams. Pooka is a talented player. You know, this is pre NFL draft. Puka was a wide receiver that I really liked. I thought for all of the you know, you go by like consensus draft experts, big boards in the pre NFL draft time because I'm not a college guy, so I just go down and I you know, go top to bottom. So we're we're starting scouting JSN and Jordan Addison and Za Flowers, those type of players, and Puka was one of the last guys I scouted. He wasn't super highly touted, but I remember thinking, like, dude, this guy's good and in a draft class full of baby boys, there's like a man out there. So I really really liked him. Then he goes to Sean McVay. So his long term future. When you come out and you can go ten for fifteen in week one as a rookie in the NFL, it's not a fluke, it's not an accident. He's good. I believe in him. I'm I'm you know. I would push chips in on him having a good, decent future ahead. Now, specifically the next couple of weeks, forty nine Ers are gonna be tough. They just destroyed the Pittsburgh Steelers. Well, we'll see if Sean McVay can do a little bit more in division. I will say that the forty nine ers usually have the RAMS number. I mean, like like they I don't have any stats in front of me. This is anecdotal in my brain. Maybe you can look this up, but I am pretty sure that the forty nine Ers and Shanahan own Sean McVay. They like they they have made a deal where he can't compete with them. So I do worry about this week obviously, going forward, I worry about when Cooper Cup comes back, whether Puka will be in two wide receiver sets or whether that will be Van Jefferson. I think Van Jefferson is a really good NFL three, so I hope Pukah develops his way into wide receiver two. But in a dynasty format, I am one hundred percent in on Pooka. Yeah.

I looked at the stat Sean McVay is three and eight against Kyle Shanahan.

And usually, I'm telling you, usually it's a woman. Like the forty nine ers they've been Sean mcvayover is over their knee and they they count his birthday off right on his backside.

Before we move on, I was gonna ask you guys, what would like if you're obviously bullish, I'm poking the kooa you were before the draft, Jason and Kyle feel free to jump in, what would you give up in a trade to go get him? Like, if we're talking rookie picks for.

Next year, I think I'd be happy to give up a second round rookie pick for him. You know you've you've seen a little flash, and you can't wait too long for that to happen. Second round rookie picks are at best a fifty percent shot at happening. What you hope you get in the second round, what you dream of getting in the second round is a player who week one can go out there and go ten for fifteen and then if you trade that pick, that could develop into nothing. It could just be a bust. Not only could it be a bust, but at best, if it hits, it's a year away because you're trading a twenty twenty four. So I would absolutely go off for a twenty twenty three for Pooka in all leagues. I don't know that you'll be able to get that done right now because it's hard. Maybe you do that in another week after you know the Shanahan spinx McVeigh.

I as a resident Puka pal, you know someone that has him on the team. I think it's just a hold, like there's just like a second wouldn't get it done. And I think Jason's right, like that's where you start the negotiation. But you would probably want to say, hey, I just want to see where this goes, especially with cups injury up in the air. So he's one of those players that you got him for nothing, and so right now you can try to flip that and maybe that does work, but it's so early in the process that there's not a need like you don't have to turn around now. Jeremy and I are trying to as best we can lose again this year, but we can't. We want again in week one, so who knows we're bad at trying to lose. That's that's like where the dynasty process has just broken down for us. So whatever, puku Aku is a great player. We'll be talking about him, hopefully more and more throughout this season. But if you got a bench boy, someone that went off on your bench, send us a screenshot, because I just want to see some of the names that just went bananas for teams this week that we're just sitting out there on the wire or on the wire on your bench. But we're gonna take a quick break and we'll be right back. You guys have been around the block in the fantasy football industry, and so for Week one, I feel like this is kind of like we know what's gonna happen. We know that people are going to overreact, and we know that our timelines are gonna fill up. So, Jason, you've been doing this the longest. Is there any principles before we get into our big you know, week one overreactions and talking points? Is there any principles you want to give people of just like, hey, stay water, don't overreact because I think most people that's like what they want to do is they just want to make a quick decision.

Well, it's it's it's obviously very nuanced, right because you have two sides of the coin that are really they're they're they're they're as far as the east from the west in the sense that week one performances show you special things. You know, we talked about puka Akua and that he looks like he could be legit and you either choose to jump on it or you don't. And so you want to be aggressive with week one storylines. You want to not wait around and be proven after week five when you can you can no longer participate. But when you overreact, when you're wrong, when you reach you know, pokah is no guarantee, as you know, as an example, and we have so much history of a week one dud or a week one stud completely going the other direction for the rest of the season the rest of their careers. Uh, Sammy Watkins was always a week one super darling and then you know, just wasn't really real most of the seasons he played FOOTB. So I think I think you just have to take it case by case. You need to. When you're excited about something, you need to try to play Devil's advocate, right, So, like Poukna Kua, what could go wrong? Well, Cooper cup comes back, he's relegated to the wide receiver three position, maybe the wide receiver four, maybe two to two at Well is the wide receiver three. And then you just have to ask yourself how realistic that is? How realistic is it that Van Jefferson and two two at Well guys who are multiple years into their career and have never been able to establish anything significant, that those guys can keep someone talented off the field. You know, I think it's unrealistic. So you take it case by case, and that's what we're gonna do here. We're gonna look at six big storylines and see if this is something we need to react to quickly or are are people overreacting to and we need to have caution.

Yeah, one name that came up when you were talking, Jason that I thought of, Well, this is gonna make people laugh. Kenny gall It right now, you laugh now because of what he is now. But there was a time in Dynasty where he came out of nowhere in Week one as a rookie four catches, sixty nine yards, two touchdowns, burst onto the scene. Of course, now he's nothing and has no value and it's not even in the league, but there was a time where like he was valued as a top twenty Dynasty wide receiver. So that's just another example of like if you kind of waited, like you missed the value peak of him. And I'm not saying Pooka is going to have the same career path. I certainly hope that is not the case of Getty Galladey. But that's an example of like, hey, if you didn't jump on that, you might have missed an opportunity. He was on waiver wires, he was like a fourth round rookie pick, right that that sort of example, those things definitely happen. So, like Jason said, you don't want to ignore everything, but you want to react appropriately.

Yeah, it's there. There's a blend between underreacting and just being passive and just watching, Like that's what we don't want as a manager, right, Yeah, but we want to be proactive. And the worst case scenario is you start some trade offers and then it doesn't amount to anything and you don't have to move on. But at least you're being active about the conversation about a player rather than just standing pat Like I'm actually trying to take offers Pooka just to see what people do because I don't know. Like that's the best part about Dynasty is people value players all over the matter. If someone's willing to give a first, we'll talk. But like it kind of depends on how desperate people are what they saw, Like if they watched that game, they're like, holy crap, this guy is just open all the time fifteen targets. So be proactive rather than just being passive. But let's talk about these overactions. I'm gonna do what do you all think I'm gonna do, which is just bulls out? All right, We're gonna give six storylines and I'm gonna let Betts start first, because this is the biggest story in sports with the Jets and the Jets outlook. We talked about it a little bit of just how do you react with Zach Wilson, But let's talk about Garrett Wilson because it is it is dicey. I talked to a couple Garrett Wilsons this morning of just here's my expectation twenty four hours ago, and then here's how I feel now, which is just completely drastic. So talk to me about the Jets.

Yeah, this is such a bummer. Like I feel bad for Jets fans. I feel bad for NFL fans, like obviously Aaron Rodgers, the human being, but tern the Achilles. You know, when you have Garrett Wilson on your dynasty roster, tigman re draft leagues, you think you have a potential top three Fantasy wide receiver in the range of outcomes, that's gone, right, It's just gone in a matter of literally one play with Zach Wilson. It's just not gonna happen. Now they're kicking the can on veterans who don't know who it is as of this recording. But like if you watched the interview, with Robert Tala last night, which why would you go interview Rubby taalall right right after the injury, But they did, and the first thing he said about it was, well, we've got a great defense. He didn't say anything about Zach Wilson. He said, we've got a great defense. They're going to be insanely conservative. I think as long as Zach Wilson is the starter, which how can you blame them? Right, because you've got Dalvin, You've got Breese who will talk about him. He looked incredible, and you do have an elite defense. And just to put some numbers to it, they were by far ted last impastorate over expectation last night and they were trailing most of the game. So, I mean, Garrett Wilson's touchdown grab Boys was out of this world. He is that level of player. But the throw itself from Zach Wilson was horrible. It was not in a good spot for Garret Wilson. He saved it on that catch, but the volume is a big time concern. You know, last season, when Garret Wilson played with anyone not named Zach Wilson, he was averaging seventeen Fantasy points per game with Zack Wilson eight point six. So I don't know, like, if Garrett Wilson finishes as like a mid range wide receiver two at this point, you're going to be super disappointed. But I feel like that's kind of the expectation now from a redraft league. Now this is dynasty, So I don't want everyone to panic because Garrett Wilson has everything we look for from the age, the profile, you know, second year wide receiver, those things. It's just that if you were a contender and you had Garrett Wilson, like you don't feel as great about your chances this year. I think based off of this Aaron Rodgers injury.

I don't think that you can trade him away right now because you're gonna get seventy five eighty cents on the dollar from anybody. So just in terms of emotional reactions, don't hit the panic button. We had a instance last year We're in Week one we were like, oh no, what are we gonna do with Ceed Lamb when Dak Prescott's out? And that was a short term injury, but Ceed was fine. I think it just comes down to who earns targets and are they gonna be in game scripts where they have to throw more. That's the hardest thing I have you know, I just have to look at this team and say, this team is built on defense, and we saw that it could beat the Bills somehow, some way on just their defense and defense alone. So volume, I don't know, like seven targets of games feels right, but the dreams of one hundred and fifty targets and one hundred and fifty good targets is something that you just kind of have to throw aside. So, Jason, are you trying to go after Garrett Wilson at all, like knowing that the manager is probably like a little shaken.

Yeah, I mean I don't I don't mind going after him and seeing if you can get him in a dynasty league, especially if you are a team that is not necessarily looking to compete this year and maybe Garrett Wilson is on more of a championship roster. That's where I'm looking at it more, because you're not going to get him fifty cents on the dollar. He's Garrett Wilson. Dynasty managers are smart enough to realize, like, look, he's one of the most talented wide receivers in the league, and you know, if I've got to write out this season with seventy five percent of him, whatever, he's still going to be a valuable fantasy asset even if he's not a top five wide receiver. And then in the future, you know, should be super bright ahead without Zach Wilson. So I don't think you're gonna get him super cheap, but it's always worth kicking the tires just to ask, just to see if you can, you know, can you go trade what would you trade? Would you trade two firsts for him?

I would comfortably because he's right. Sons offer that you don't get these opportunities very often to acquire a superstar. There is a small window right here, and I think you have to pounce, especially if you're not a contender this year. I think now's the time.

Would you rather have Garrett Wilson or Jalen Wattle in Dynasty right now? Because before the season I would have easily said Garrett Wilson.

I think I would.

I think I would still take Wilson.

Yeah, I lean that way as well. I have Waddle in our main Dynasty league, and I'm really thinking, like who would I rather have? And the truth is that Tyreek Kill is going to be great this year, but Tyreek Hill is going to be great next year. And I am a I am very afraid that Tyreek Hill is going to be really great the year after that, like you know, at his age. Most of the time I'm looking for I would be talking about, Oh, Jalen Wattle, He's going to be the one. He's going to step in, you know, the way that Julio Jones did when Roddy White was the dude and eventually Roddy White goes away and Julio becomes Julio. I'm waiting for that to happen for Jalen Moadel. I think that's gonna happen like four years from now, because Tyreek Hill is going to age great when speed is your weapon. We've seen this with some you know, cornerbacks that play into their like forty because they're just so darn fast. And so I don't think Tyreek. You know, Tyreek's gonna finish out his contract, which I think is three more years, and then he'll retire do other things. He'll be great the whole time he's playing. So I will take Garrett Wilson, who is the one for their team.

YEP, makes a lot of sense. Before we move on from the Jets, we got to talk Breese Hall boys, because oh my goodness. The thing is he's only going to get more explosive over the next four or five six weeks, which is kind of scary to think about. The numbers right from Dalvin Cook to Breeseall last night were truly laughable when you look at the efficiency of the explosiveness and if you just watch the game, like I've been kind of on record saying, I think Dalvin's somewhat close to done, like he's hitting that age cliff that we get a little worried about. Breesehall entering year two is on the you know, ascension to being the best, one of the best running backs in the league, especially giving the landscape right of like the Saquons of the world are slowly getting to the point where like the end is coming. It's it's closer than it was to the beginning. These guys entering year two usually are very good bets. I know Breeshall is coming off that acl but he showed everything that you're looking for to say like he's he's probably going to return to for him and maybe then some man just to put the members to it, which is very funny. Thirteen point four yards per touch for Breesal three point seven Galvin Cook. Now that probably won't hold, but the Jets have no choice but to ride this to this running back tandem, these two guys. So, man, if you held Breesehall through the injury or you traded for him somewhat cheap this offseason, I think you've got to be feeling incredible right now.

Yeah, no, I am. I'm feeling incredible, Thank you. At four hours after that game, I did have to call a doctor. If you know what I'm sam. Let me tell you, Brice Hall's got me going. I love that dude. And uh man, you know you saw it on that big eighty three yard run that wasn't a touchdown. He's he doesn't have a gas tank yet. He hasn't been able to stay in football shape. So you just I can't imagine towards the end of the year, when he's in great shape what he's going to be doing every single week when they are relying on the defense and run game, and it's going to be Brief's baby. Could you imagine, like if your main dynasty league like your primary dynasty league, if you had like Bijon Robinson and Brice Hall and Travis Eat and you know, unlike the same runs. How would you feel, guys, how would you feel if that was your team? Of it being nineteen.

Jason, you are just sniffing your farts on the air. It's so good, Jason, you make a four hour joke and then a sniff in your farts.

Yeah, okay, that's why people listen.

I know, I'd expect nothing less. I gonna let you go next. You're gonna talk to us about Jordan Love and the Packers who put up thirty eight points on the Bears.

Yeah. So this is another one of those big storylines where you've got to pounce or throw caution on it because one of the biggest questions coming into this year from a fantasy perspective, from an NFL perspective, but certainly without a doubt from a dynasty perspective, is what is Jordan Love capable of? These talk about a young group of wide receivers. Here you have a trifecta of really great young options, and then they add Luke Musgrave at tight end. So you've got Christian Watson you've got Romeo Dobbs there, and you've got Jalen Reid, three first and second year wide receivers, and they can only be as good as the quarterback plays. Week one of Jordan Love, because i'ming the full time starter with training camp and everything else. He was awesome. Fifteen to twenty seven, two and forty five yards, three touchdowns, no picks. He ran the offense well, the running game was working. Everything seemed to be going well. And if if the future for the Packers is what the past is for the Packers, which means just nothing but quarterback hit after quarterback hit, and they've done it again and Jordan Love is great, then you have to believe that your long term outlook for Christian Watson, Romeo Dobbs and Jalen Reid Jaden Reid are sky's the limit. You also need to be pretty bullish on Luke Musgrave and so I think that there will be some people overreacting to this performance. This is one where I personally will pump the brakes on. I will have caution with you had Aaron Jones in this game decimating the Chicago Bears defense, really opening things up. Aaron Jones is not going to be a long term solution for this team. And and honestly, Aj Dillons, I feel like he's just getting worse. He does not look good. He hasn't looked good in two years. Oh was it really that bad? Es? I mean, he's just he's not that great. He's a big, strong human being. He's not a good running back for the NFL. So if you if you don't have Aaron Jones long term, there's question marks, you know about pinning your ears back and be able to go after Jordan Love. But the real issue here is the Chicago Bears. The Chicago Bears looked completely unready for that game. They look like they were a team that has been living off of offseason hype since the draft in their trades and you're getting DJ Moore and just the excitement that I know is in the city of Chicago. I feel like that team just came in. You want to talk about smelling your own farts. They came in just believing that they've they've achieved something, gonna be right well done, you know. I think they came in just really thinking that their team was ready to click automatically, and they got punched in the Mouth. I don't think their defense is very good. It was obviously not good last year. And I am not going to overreact and sit there and think that Jordan Love is a future superstar. I won't be pouncing on Love. I won't be pouncing on Christian Watson, who I do believe is good. I won't be pouncing on Romeo Dobbs with his two touchdowns. I will take a weight and see approach here. Because I credit the Chicago Bears with sixty percent, that's I'm not giving them all the credit. I mean, the Green Bay Packers deserve credit for the performance they did, but I still think the majority of credit goes to the Chicago Bears, and I will I don't want you our listeners, to overreact from what you saw in Green Bay, where everything worked.

I could not agree more. And I love the way that you brought it up in a very Jason More a way, like I'm giving credit to the Bears for being bad to show Jordan Love he was pressured on six dropbacks, like he didn't have to do much and then yes, three touchdowns look good, the box score looks good, but on play action he was actually one of the worst players in week one, So that's what I care more about, is like, if they get the running game going, then you would think that they would be good on play action. That's something Jordan Love didn't do great. I still think they win this division, which they were had the worst odds, which is wild for a long time, so I think they could still win the division. But if people are overreacting and saying Jordan Love's gonna be a QB one for my fantasy team, like I think you're happy if you held on in a Super Flex league as a QB two. I think that can work. But I think if you're hoping for anything more than top twelve to fifteen, I think that's a lot. So I've seen a lot of offers in the first day, like, oh, could I trade Jordan Love for I don't know Dak or you know, Daniel Jones, Like that's the tier and I'd still rather have those other players. That's just me. I don't know, that's how do you feel?

Yeah, I mean I kind of bought into to Jordan Love from the preseason, which you know, some people laugh at the preseason because of what it is, but like when you see flashes, like it is a time to pounce before things change, and the trade specifically in a super flex league, I think gave up. It was a twenty five first for Jordan Love and a third or something like that on top as a QB two I have Kyler needed a guy, and I was like, you know what, this makes sense. So I'm happy, Like I'm happy he came out and succeeded in week one, but like you said, I want to see more before I really truly think that that was like a home run trade. I'm happy with QB two numbers if he can give you that in a super flex league, but the rushing up side certainly isn't there. We know how important that is, you know. And along the same lines, like he did do this without Christian Watson. So if Watson comes back, is healthy rest of season, which is a big if, which by the way, I feel like I ruined that last week when I said he was going to the moon. Is nice is a big thing for Jordan loves value obviously, so I'm happy with the performance on week one, But like you guys said, we don't want to overreact.

I don't want to overreact to this next one. It's t Higgins and his contract situation, because we had some news that came out earlier this week from Kelsey Conway. She covers the Bengals. She used to cover the Falcons, but she said that T. Higgins is not believed to be in the Bengals future plans. The two sides never got close. And then we see Joe Burrow sign his record setting extension two hundred and seventy five million. And then we see Tee Higgins come out and see and I use this in air quotes eight targets because if you guys watched it, I posted the film of it, would you have called those eight targets at T Higgins saw like targets at all?

Oh my gosh, you posted it. You posted and I watched it. I watched it like three times, and I counted how many were catchable. There were two that were catchable, and that is being so full of grace. I mean, so those two I think were not good, but they were catch a bull. They deserve to be targets. The other six were not targets to T Higgins in any way, shape or form.

There was a couple of those where the cameraman is like way off, like he's like confused, because I'm watching the film and I'm trying to spice it together. I'm like, I don't think the cameraman knows that it was supposed to go to Tee Higgins because it's just way off. So eight targets and air quotes Andy Goose eggs. So a lot of people are like, Okay, well, the team doesn't want him. He didn't do anything. They were really bad and you can just ride him off. So do not overreact this to my message about T Higgins. He's still only twenty four years old. He's in the final year of his rookie contract, and yes, we do not know if he's gonna be on the Bengals. And I would say based on the extension and based on what Jamar Chase is gonna get. Justin Jefferson resetting the market, like, those are the guys that are gonna get paid. I think that T Higgins is up there as either the best or the second best wide receiver in next year's free agent market. Let me read these names to you guys, and you tell me where he lands. Calvin Ridley, who will talk about later, who is gonna be twenty nine Michael Pittman, Junior gave the Babe Davis, Darnell Mooney, marqu He's Hollywood Brown. And then I just threw in there Chase Claypool just so we can laugh.

Okay, Yeah, I mean he's absolutely the number one wide receiver, even if you think that Calvin Ridley, which is the only wide receiver in the caliber of tier of player as Higgins is. Calvin Ridley's not going anywhere. He's a Jaguar. He's not going to hit the free agent market. He'll be franchised or he'll be given an extension. They've you know, I'm not worried about him leaving at all. So T Higgins, it seems like he is a foregone conclusion to be gone. They don't really have the money for him. They never really negotiated this offseason, and I think they're going to build around Jamar Chase and have to figure out a second wide receiver. So T. Higgins will be a free agent going to a difference. Yeah.

And honestly, guys, that's okay, Like it's not like, Okay, he gets a huge boost because he's out from Chase. Chase actually helped him in terms of a lot of these games like open up coverage, So I don't think it's like a negative. I also wouldn't call it his positive. I just say, like, what do you believe about T Higgins as a player and as a player who's twenty four going twenty five. If you just take out those eight targets you just saw whatever they were, and you looked at the three hundred and sixty six other targets he's seen in his career, you would say this guy's good. I wouldn't put him in the great category, but I think he is what an NFL team wants. He a player that profiles as a one that can get downfield and can't have monster games. So he's gonna get a big contract, and he would be a player that if you have him, do not panic. And I was trying to get some value, so I want to gauge from you guys, would you rather have T Higgins or Brandon Ayuk in a dynasty league? They came in the league the same year.

I am frozen with this question. Truthfully, Uh, yeah, that's that's super close. I think I see more like alpha capability from Brandon Nyuk than I do T Higgins. Not that T Higgins isn't good but like, I think Brandon Yuk could turn into a true superstar. He I mean Week one boys, he looked, he looked incredible.

Brandon Ayuk is so hard.

Yeah, I lean more the T Higgins side. Brandon Ayuk is what twenty five? How old is T Higgins twenty four point six, so super younger. Yeah, I I both of these guys are good. But Ayuk is in a role where he's the wide receiver two for his team. I don't know if he does leave the team and you know, and move on, that he will get the contract that T Higgins is gonna get. Someone's gonna give T Higgins like a you know, an alpha tier contract, and that doesn't guarantee success Jimmy Golladay, but I think that T Higgins is still in his prime. He'll be given a contract that says he gets one hundred and fifty targets. He's coming into be a one that's my guess. So all lean on the T Higgins side.

Yeah, And I know people won't like this name comp but there is a time when Alan Robinson was signed by the Bears. He was still young. He was something that can earn targets, wasn't quite the separator that we want in that's kind of Tea Higgins and had some monster years with the Bears where he was getting what one hundred and forty hundred and fifty targets, So that's kind of like what you're looking at like a a contract wise. So don't mind, don't just write him off, guys, he's he's still good. Let's take one more break and we'll be right back. Bets, we're gonna get to talk about one more player here from you that caught your attention from the Dynasty outlook, and it's all over the map. Like I think you could actually form a lot of opinions from week one and last year, if you would have done this with Justin Fields week one, you could have logged out and missed out in the rest of the season. So talk to me about Fields.

Yeah, this is I think a completely different conversation because we know in fantasy if he runs, he will be good. But I'm going to start this conversation with saying Chicago has its own twenty twenty four first. Carolina is twenty twenty four first and the most available cap space entering this offseason after the season is over, So I want to ask you, guys, what is the percentage chance that you think Justin Fields is the Week one starter next year for Chicago.

Great question, I'd put it if he just had a ballpark it. If I had a ballpark it, I would put it at ninety percent.

I'm a little less, way higher than I would that's way higher than I would think.

I'd probably put it at sixty five seventy percent.

The clock's ticking. I mean, I know it's one week, but he was not good as a passer, and and that is not a small stand like that was all of last year was the talk about Justin Fields is like, well he's gonna run. It's so good for fantasy, but like from a real life NFL perspective, is not good. Week one, he was twenty ninth and BFF passing grade. His eight out was three point six yards. That was thirty first, disgusting. He was under pressure on over half of his dropbacks. And last year, like Chicago was dead last in saccharate allowed. Now, part of that is the offensive line, part of that is Justin Fields, and so there's a ton that has to change soon for Justin Fields, and if it doesn't, the NFL moves on very quickly, like they aren't winning games with Justin Fields they had didn't win last year. They clearly are off to a bad start this year. So all I'm saying is, if you think you have a starter locked in for next year, I do not think that is a guarantee. If the writing is on the wall that they keep losing, I am probably looking to move on in dynasty from Justin Fields.

Yeah. I guess it's really just a matter of do you think he's going to get his act together this year? And even if he's not a phenomenal passer, what matters is does he score points? You know, last year in a stretch of losses, they scored thirty three points, twenty nine points, thirty two points, thirty points. If you're scoring twenty nine to thirty plus points a game, I don't care if you're a bad passer. The only thing that matters for winning on an NFL field is did you score points? Those weren't fantasy points. Those were the points that the Chicago Bears scored, regardless of how many points they gave up. So if he can put up points, you know, on an NFL field, which I think he will do this season, he should be their starter next year.

The biggest issue is that he had two designed runs, Like what are they doing? What is Luke Getsy doing Because that's when they had the switch last year was Week six and all of a sudden they started doing over five a game and he went to the moon. So here's what I here's what I do think in dynasty, Justin Fields will be a starting quarterback in the NFL next year. And I said it was pretty high that it's the Bears. If it's not the Bears, this dude's going to be a starting quarterback for somebody because I think he has the tools to do it.

Yeah, the only way that he's not the starting quarterback barring injury for the Bears, would be that the Bears get a really really good draft picks, believe in another quarterback more, and then they're going to trade Fields to a quarterback needy team. So you're right, he'll be a starter.

So his sack rate is just legendary, by the way, just like where he's what he's done in his career, he's good at that. He's good at taking sacks and holding out of the ball, which for fantasy, we don't care. We don't care at all. We know that he's gonna run. I like the point you brought up, though, bets of like their AMMO and what they have tells us that it's possible. I just put it at likely based on I think the team as a whole. They were losing last year, but they had an identity, right, Like I know, I'm going narrative base, but like they had an identity that Justin Fields was fun, that the team embraced him, and that they were actually moving forward in the right direction. So it's hard for me to say it. After week one when we did our super Flex show, we went through our rankings, he was the one at the very end of the group, like when you get to like Trevor Lawrence and Fields, where I'm like, I'm not ready to crown Fields just in the elites yet. So that's kind of like, I feel like he's just exactly where he was before where I'm not scared off, but I kind of thought, like, Okay, there's gonna be some bumps. So any thoughts about their pass catchers because it was moony in week one and then DJ Moore saw like a four percent target chair.

Well that was confusing as heck, I don't understand why that happened. But the other thing is with that eight out I mentioned like after the game, Justin Fields said that was the game plan was these kind of short, you know, horizontal passes, which in the preseason it's what we saw. We literally saw DJ Moore take a screen pass to the house. Granted that was a terribly thumball, and we all saw Khalil Herbert take a screen pass to the house. So I don't know if they saw that and we're like, oh, that's what work, let's just keep doing that. But yeah, I mean Justin Fields was a good downfield passer in at Ohio State, so they need to open it up. They've got DJ Moore. Yeah, I don't know, it was it was weird.

Yeah, you can't really repeat yack stuff like that week in week out, and if it doesn't work, then you're just completely screwed. So Jason, you're gonna hit us next. And I just want to ask you a question, Like in Arizona, I know that they sometimes refer to themselves as the dirty birds, but do you know that most people think of the Falcons as the dirty birds?

Yeah, nobody don't. I don't think the Cardinals think of themselves as the dirty birds. Ron Wolfley, the commentator for the Gardens.

Deep voice, Oh the dirty birds.

He will call them that, okay, but I don't think we go around. I've never heard people, other than doing an impression of Ron Wolfley, call us the dirty birds.

But the Falcons.

You bring up the Falcons because that is the storyline I want to talk about from this I mean from this week, but also from last year, from Arthur Smith, from everything we know, the Falcons rushing and receiving conundrum. Will it stick? Will it be? Historically insane? Right now? The Falcons, just like last year, they want to run the ball. They're good at running the ball. As a team, they were basically the best rushing team last season with Kodero Patterson, Tyler l Jeer and Caleb Huntley and whoever else got the ball back there. The scheme is really really good for running the ball, and that hurt Kyle Pitts. Last season, Drake London wasn't amazing. You just didn't throw the ball that much. So you come out this year after drafting Bijon Robinson obviously running back, but it passed catching running back Kyle I know you were at some Falcons you know camp, you were doing boots on the ground camp reporting, and I remember you talking about them spreading it out, going five y red zone in the red zone, empty backfield, like you know, just like what kind of an offense are we going to see this year? And here's what we saw week one. We saw them hand the ball off a lot, and then we saw after that they would hand the ball off to a running back and then sometimes they would do like a like a handoff, maybe a draw, maybe like a sweep, and then they would do it like a toss and always to this the running back and to the end to that running back, and then they would go to pass. And I don't know if you're aware, but over fifty percent of their targets went to the running backs. Obviously, that is not going to stick. I mean when you say fit over fifty percent of the targets, you're like percentages with the Falcons offense. They don't make sense anyway, as Beijon had a thirty four percent target share, he only had six targets. They just didn't throw the ball a lot. And so I think that is the question that we need to react to is can this possibly keep happening where the passing game is absolutely, unequivocally irrelevant and the running game is super solid and great. Now, the reason I wonder about cautioning us is because this was Bryce Young and the Carolina Panthers they played. This was a team that you know, was that looked like they're gonna be a top ten draft pick. They they were not good on offense, they were worse on defense. So the Atlanta Falcons, you know, they get up by fourteen points, and of course you can run the ball. My belief is not just based on this single game. My belief is based on Arthur Smith's history, this game last season that this is going to be exactly what you get. I think that there will be certain games where they will have to throw the ball more. This will be the more extreme example in Week one, But I do believe that they they're going to succeed with this method. It's gonna suck for fantasy when he comes to the passing game. I don't think you want to invest in any of the passing options. I'm all about the running backs. So you want to give me Bejon, you want to give me Tyler al Jeer, I'm happy to take him, obviously, but I feel like Drake London is red alert read alert for a super talented top ten pick who has done nothing but look great. And Kyle Pitts, who's super athletic, and I don't blame him for any of his woes on not being able to catch on catchable targets, but like, this is a team where if you are relying on Drake London or Kyle Pitts, I think you're screwed. I think you are not going to have a good run there. And neither of these players, now Kyle Pitts, both these guys are so young that on a long term dynasty perspective, especially Kyle Pitts, Kyle Pitts will have a dominant future. I really believe that the way they use Kyle Pitts is insane. To me, it's absolutely mind blowing that they basically, you know, it's funny, like we want them to have valuable targets downfield, run real wide receiver routes, and they do that with Kyle Pitts. But they only do that with Kyle Pitts. Get the mand the ball in some designed like just leak him out a little bit from the line of scrimmage, give him an easy catch. I feel like everything he gets is like twenty five yards down the field and it's a forty sixty ball. It's not fair to the man on his second contract. Wherever he goes, he'll be great. But right now, for the next couple of years, I believe that it's gonna be more of the same. And Arthur Smith does not care, and he succeeds with it. He's just too good at running the ball. They're gonna keep doing it. And I'm out on the Falcons passing game.

Pitts ran twenty routes this past week and luckily they didn't ask them to pass block. They just got John U. Smith to do that. But I rewatched the game and it was as bad as you could think. I mean, London's won target he dropped, so that wasn't good. And Bijon like they were manufacturing touches for him, so a couple of those targets were just like little flicks, like barely across the line of scrimmage. The hardest part of their schedule coming up. I know we're looking short term. Here is Green Bay at Detroit Jacksonville. I think they're not gonna be able to play the same way that they did against the Panthers where they were really bad. I mean they didn't turn the ball over, but on third down they were bad. Rider looked pretty scared, like for the most part, like it didn't look good. So it's weird when you kind of roll back like where London and pits were taken in drafts, because remember Pitts, they took him the pick before Jamar Chase, no big deal, and then London they took him two picks before Garrett Wilson. So we have completely different Dynasty outlooks players that went right after them because of their situation. And I'm with Jason, like it's one of those things with London where you I don't know if you could trade him right now because people are not going to respect it. But at the end of the day, like you can't start him with confidence. So would you rather have Jason, Drake London, or Christian Watson in Dynasty?

I would rather have Christian Watson. I think Christian Watson has a chance. I know it kind of sucks. He's a little bit older, He's not as talented as a wide receiver as Drake London, is like if you told me that that those players were traded for one another in the NFL, Oh my goodness, would I be in on Drake London. Drake Lennon is a better player than Christian Watson. But sometimes that doesn't matter, you know. Sometimes what matters is the situation you're in, the opportunity that you're going to get on the field, and Drake Lennon's not going to get enough.

Yeah, it's.

Five minutes.

Was so sad.

Oh man, Well, welcome to be a Falcons fan where we can win and then everyone he still hates us because well it's screwing over their fantasy flaves. Let me give one more thought. Here a former Falcon Calvin Ridley, and talk about his value moving forward. He's twenty eight point seven years old and we've made fun of him for this, but he's technically on his rookie contract still.

That is so insane. It's so insane that he is finishing his rookie contract at the end of his career. Anyways, go on, that's it.

I looked at Hayden Hurst, who's like super old, and he like just finished his rookie contract the year before and he's thirty now anyway, Falcons players whatever. So with Calvin Ridley, he looked like an alpha in Week one right, like thirty five percent target share over thirty percent of the first three targets, fifty percent of the team's end zone targets, like, it was clear he's the dude. And Jason mentioned earlier he's probably gonna re sign with Jacksonville. I don't know how long that contract will be. But what is his value right now? If you are a contender, you're happy, you're going to write it out. But if you are in a rebuild and you have Calvin Ridley and you just like, hey, I have had him on my squad sitting around. I'm not in a place to contend, what kind of price would you be willing to part with him for? Because I would want more than a first, and I think I would want something like if you want to contend, like I give me a first and another young player like a first, and I don't know, I said a first in Johan Dotson, and I would think about it. But I feel like Ridley's value is just so sky high despite his age right now that dynasty managers need to think about this before they just react too quickly.

I think the trade that you mentioned, you know, the first and a young wide receiver like Tron Dotson. You can you can pick another one if you want, but like that range probably feels correct to me at least because, like I was hesitant to buy into common Earle this offseason, but training camp, everything that you heard was positive and then came out and did that in Week one. Now it was against Indies's like college level secondary so let's just remember that. But like Trebor Lawrence, we want to bet on right and we like the system. I think it's here to stay for the season at least probably next year as well.

So yeah, you're right.

I think if you are gonna part with Calvin Ridley, I wouldn't just like look at this opportunity and say, like, I gotta get something right now. Like I think you can. You can capitalize and you can get something pretty legit in the form of a trade if you are not a contender.

Yeah, so final thie here, Jason is he one of those players It's like, if you have him, you just got to ride this out.

Yeah, I think you ride it out. I mean I would try to trade him because, like you said, if you could get Johan Dotson and a one. I would I would do that in a heartbeat. He's about to turn twenty nine years old. That's when you capitalize on those wide receivers. If you can get a first and a young stud for any great twenty nine plus year old wide receiver not named Tyreek Hill, I'd pretty much do that. But assuming you can't get that, then yeah, you write it out because, like I said, I do think he's gonna be a Jacksonville Jaguar next year. I think he's gonna be great this year, great next year, and if you're you know, on a championship run, he's going to provide a lot of value. Was so clearly the first target watching how the Reids progressed. Christian Kirk only played sixty percent of snaps, and it just seemed like Calvin Ridley's my dude, I'm looking at him. I'm gonna force him the ball, and he's good enough, you know. That was the questions, like, well, is he good enough to be that dude? Yeah?

He is.

He was through camp and week one he just he looked awesome.

Yeah. This week they played Kansas City at home, which should be one of the best games of the week, So please yes for DFS for everything. It's a it's gonna be a fun game. That's gonna do it. For this episode of the Dynasty Podcast. If you want to stay in the Dynasty conversation, guys, our discord is popping the Dynasty channels. They don't go to sleep just because we're in season, so if you want to hop on that, you can go to our website, the Fantasy Footballers dot Com to be a part of that conversation. We hope you guys have a great week.

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