A plan to protect one of Sarawak’s remaining rainforest landscapes has instead ended with a major timber concession over the same forests, according to a new report about the Upper Baram. For years, Penan and other Indigenous communities in the region have pushed for their forests to be protected through what began as the Penan Peace Park and later became the Baram Peace Park. The idea eventually became a government-backed project with international support. But the report, Plundering the Baram Peace Park, says that while this conservation project was being developed, a major timber concession was granted over the same forests, and the project was eventually cancelled. So how did a community-led conservation vision reach this point, and what happens to the forests and the people who depend on them now? We explore this with Lerroy Lemen, a Penan representative from Long Lamai in Baram and a member of the grassroots organisation Keruan, and Tanja Meier, a campaigner with the Bruno Manser Fonds, which is behind the report.