In this final episode of the Dying Your Way Encore Series, Claire O’Berry revisits her powerful conversation with Michele Neff Hernandez, founder of Soaring Spirits International and author of Different After You: Rediscovering Yourself and Healing after Grief or Trauma.

Michele’s life changed in 2005 when her husband, Phillip, was killed in a cycling accident. Suddenly widowed at 35 and raising a blended family of six children, Michele began searching for other widowed people who could help her understand what life after such a devastating loss might look like. That search became the foundation for Soaring Spirits International, a global organization offering peer support, resources, and community for people who have experienced the death of a spouse or partner.

In this conversation, Claire and Michele explore grief, trauma, widowhood, complicated grief, community support, and the importance of allowing ourselves to be changed by loss. Michele also shares her memorable fishbowl analogy, a practical way to think about boundaries, support, judgment, and whose opinions truly deserve space in our lives.

This episode is for anyone who is widowed, anyone supporting someone after the death of a spouse or partner, and anyone seeking a deeper understanding of grief that does not fit neatly into society’s expectations.

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 Soaring Spirits International: https://soaringspirits.org
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In this final episode of the Dying Your Way Encore Series, Claire O&rsquo;Berry revisits her powerful conversation with Michele Neff Hernandez, founder of Soaring Spirits International and author of Different After You: Rediscovering Yourself and Healing after Grief or Trauma.
Michele&rsquo;s life changed in 2005 when her husband, Phillip, was killed in a cycling accident. Suddenly widowed at 35 and raising a blended family of six children, Michele began searching for other widowed people who could help her understand what life after such a devastating loss might look like. That search became the foundation for Soaring Spirits International, a global organization offering peer support, resources, and community for people who have experienced the death of a spouse or partner.
In this conversation, Claire and Michele explore grief, trauma, widowhood, complicated grief, community support, and the importance of allowing ourselves to be changed by loss. Michele also shares her memorable fishbowl analogy, a practical way to think about boundaries, support, judgment, and whose opinions truly deserve space in our lives.
This episode is for anyone who is widowed, anyone supporting someone after the death of a spouse or partner, and anyone seeking a deeper understanding of grief that does not fit neatly into society&rsquo;s expectations.
Learn more: Dying Your Way:<a href="https://dyingyourway.com/"> https://dyingyourway.com </a> Soaring Spirits International:<a href="https://soaringspirits.org/"> https://soaringspirits.org </a> Michele Neff Hernandez:<a href="https://michelleneffhernandez.com/"> https://michelleneffhernandez.com </a> Different After You:<a href="https://shop.soaringspirits.org/products/autographed-copy-of-different-after-you-rediscovering-yourself-and-healing-after-grief-and-trauma?utm_source=chatgpt.com"> </a><a href="https://shop.soaringspirits.org/products/autographed-copy-of-different-after-you-rediscovering-yourself-and-healing-after-grief-and-trauma">https://shop.soaringspirits.org/products/autographed-copy-of-different-after-you-rediscovering-yourself-and-healing-after-grief-and-trauma</a>
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S4E34 - Encore - When Grief Changes Us: A Conversation with Michele Neff Hernandez

In this Encore episode of the Dying Your Way podcast, Claire O’Berry revisits her first conversation with Toni Reilly, regression specialist and founder of the Toni Reilly Institute. Together they explore what regression work is, how it can include past-life recall and the space “in between lives,” and why many people report feeling calmer and less fearful about death afterward.

This conversation touches on the universal fear of dying, the grief and anxiety that can arise as we face mortality, and how curiosity—rather than rigid belief—can soften fear. Toni shares how regression is experienced as a deeply personal inner knowing, and why people often come away feeling lighter, clearer, and more at peace.

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In this Encore episode of the Dying Your Way podcast, Claire O&rsquo;Berry revisits her first conversation with Toni Reilly, regression specialist and founder of the Toni Reilly Institute. Together they explore what regression work is, how it can include past-life recall and the space &ldquo;in between lives,&rdquo; and why many people report feeling calmer and less fearful about death afterward.
This conversation touches on the universal fear of dying, the grief and anxiety that can arise as we face mortality, and how curiosity&mdash;rather than rigid belief&mdash;can soften fear. Toni shares how regression is experienced as a deeply personal inner knowing, and why people often come away feeling lighter, clearer, and more at peace.
Learn more about Toni&rsquo;s work:<a href="https://tonireillyinstitute.com/"> https://tonireillyinstitute.com/ </a>Explore Dying Your Way:<a href="https://dyingyourway.com/"> </a><a href="https://dyingyourway.com/">https://dyingyourway.com/</a>
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S4E33 - Encore - Past Lives, Fear of Death & What Regression Can Reveal (with Toni Reilly)

In this Encore episode of the Dying Your Way podcast, Claire O’Berry speaks with Julie Ryan, a former medical device entrepreneur and inventor who now works as a medical intuitive and psychic.

Julie shares the framework she calls the 12 transitions, describing what she believes happens as a person approaches death from the spiritual side of the equation. Claire and Julie explore the parallels between birth and death, the comfort many people report from end-of-life visions, and why Julie believes no one dies alone.

They also discuss grief and guilt, especially for families whose loved ones died during the COVID era, and Julie explains her weekly call-in show and podcast, Ask Julie Ryan, where listeners can ask questions about end-of-life experiences, healing, and the afterlife.

Episode page:
https://dyingyourway.com/podcast-item/julie-ryan-12-transition-phases-end-of-life/

Julie Ryan:
https://askjulieryan.com/

 

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In this Encore episode of the Dying Your Way podcast, Claire O&rsquo;Berry speaks with Julie Ryan, a former medical device entrepreneur and inventor who now works as a medical intuitive and psychic.
Julie shares the framework she calls the 12 transitions, describing what she believes happens as a person approaches death from the spiritual side of the equation. Claire and Julie explore the parallels between birth and death, the comfort many people report from end-of-life visions, and why Julie believes no one dies alone.
They also discuss grief and guilt, especially for families whose loved ones died during the COVID era, and Julie explains her weekly call-in show and podcast, Ask Julie Ryan, where listeners can ask questions about end-of-life experiences, healing, and the afterlife.
Episode page: <a href="https://dyingyourway.com/podcast-item/julie-ryan-12-transition-phases-end-of-life/">https://dyingyourway.com/podcast-item/julie-ryan-12-transition-phases-end-of-life/</a>
Julie Ryan: <a href="https://askjulieryan.com/">https://askjulieryan.com/</a>
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S4E32 - Encore - The 12 Transition Phases at End of Life with Julie Ryan

In this Encore episode of the Dying Your Way podcast, Claire O’Berry reconnects with Carlos Pomeda, a yoga teacher and practitioner of more than 40 years, and a scholar of Sanskrit and religious studies.

This conversation is personal for Claire. In 2004, she and her mother took a course taught by Carlos called Karma, Death, and Dying, before her mother’s Alzheimer’s diagnosis. That teaching became a steady foundation through years of caregiving, and now, sixteen years later, the conversation continues.

Together, they explore how cultural denial shapes our relationship with death, why acceptance can ease emotional suffering, and how meditation supports a shift from body-based identity toward inner awareness. Carlos also shares his perspective on karma, prana (vital energy), ritual, and “unfinished business,” along with research threads that many find compelling, including near-death experiences, hospice visions, and children’s reports of past-life memory.

This is a thoughtful, grounding episode for anyone facing illness, grief, caregiving, or the simple human question of how to die well.

Learn more about Carlos: pomeda.com

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In this Encore episode of the Dying Your Way podcast, Claire O&rsquo;Berry reconnects with Carlos Pomeda, a yoga teacher and practitioner of more than 40 years, and a scholar of Sanskrit and religious studies.
This conversation is personal for Claire. In 2004, she and her mother took a course taught by Carlos called Karma, Death, and Dying, before her mother&rsquo;s Alzheimer&rsquo;s diagnosis. That teaching became a steady foundation through years of caregiving, and now, sixteen years later, the conversation continues.
Together, they explore how cultural denial shapes our relationship with death, why acceptance can ease emotional suffering, and how meditation supports a shift from body-based identity toward inner awareness. Carlos also shares his perspective on karma, prana (vital energy), ritual, and &ldquo;unfinished business,&rdquo; along with research threads that many find compelling, including near-death experiences, hospice visions, and children&rsquo;s reports of past-life memory.
This is a thoughtful, grounding episode for anyone facing illness, grief, caregiving, or the simple human question of how to die well.
Learn more about Carlos: <a href="http://pomeda.com/">pomeda.com</a>
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S4E31 - Encore - Carlos Pomeda on Death, Meditation, and the Journey of the Soul

In this Encore episode, Claire O’Berry speaks with Judith Schwartz, former Clinical Director of End of Life Choices New York, about VSED: Voluntary Stopping Eating and Drinking.

This conversation offers a grounded look at what VSED involves, what supports are essential for comfort and safety, and why some people explore VSED when other end-of-life options are not available or accessible. Judith also discusses advance directive considerations, including documents designed to guide feeding decisions if a person later loses capacity.

Resources mentioned


End of Life Choices New York: VSED information and education




Dementia Advance Directive and “Minimal Comfort Feeding” option




Voluntarily Stopping Eating and Drinking: A Compassionate, Widely Available Option for Hastening Death (Oxford University Press), edited by Timothy E. Quill, Paul T. Menzel, Thaddeus Pope, and Judith Schwarz



Listener care note: This episode discusses end-of-life decision-making. If you feel distressed or at risk, please pause and contact local crisis supports or emergency services.

In this Encore episode, Claire O&rsquo;Berry speaks with Judith Schwartz, former Clinical Director of End of Life Choices New York, about VSED: Voluntary Stopping Eating and Drinking.
This conversation offers a grounded look at what VSED involves, what supports are essential for comfort and safety, and why some people explore VSED when other end-of-life options are not available or accessible. Judith also discusses advance directive considerations, including documents designed to guide feeding decisions if a person later loses capacity.
Resources mentioned
<ul>
<li dir="ltr">
End of Life Choices New York: VSED information and education 
</li>
<li dir="ltr">
Dementia Advance Directive and &ldquo;Minimal Comfort Feeding&rdquo; option 
</li>
<li dir="ltr">
Voluntarily Stopping Eating and Drinking: A Compassionate, Widely Available Option for Hastening Death (Oxford University Press), edited by Timothy E. Quill, Paul T. Menzel, Thaddeus Pope, and Judith Schwarz 
</li>
</ul>
Listener care note: This episode discusses end-of-life decision-making. If you feel distressed or at risk, please pause and contact local crisis supports or emergency services.

S4E30 - Encore Episode: Understanding VSED (Voluntary Stopping Eating and Drinking) with Judith Schwarz

In this Encore episode (recorded in 2020), Claire O’Berry speaks with Stephen Jenkinson about what we have lost culturally around dying, and what it might mean to recover death wisdom as a shared, communal responsibility.

Together, they explore why older and vulnerable people are so easily dismissed, the difference between a “personalized” death and a communal one, and why the work of dying asks more of us than a preference list. Stephen also reflects on fear, medicalized dying, and the long shadow a death-phobic culture casts over how we live.

Mentioned and recommended: Orphan Wisdom and the Orphan Wisdom School, Stephen’s home for teaching and writing.

For your next listen: “Matrimony, Patrimony & the Village We Need” (Claire’s more recent conversation with Stephen).

In this Encore episode (recorded in 2020), Claire O&rsquo;Berry speaks with Stephen Jenkinson about what we have lost culturally around dying, and what it might mean to recover death wisdom as a shared, communal responsibility.
Together, they explore why older and vulnerable people are so easily dismissed, the difference between a &ldquo;personalized&rdquo; death and a communal one, and why the work of dying asks more of us than a preference list. Stephen also reflects on fear, medicalized dying, and the long shadow a death-phobic culture casts over how we live.
Mentioned and recommended: Orphan Wisdom and the Orphan Wisdom School, Stephen&rsquo;s home for teaching and writing.
For your next listen: &ldquo;Matrimony, Patrimony &amp; the Village We Need&rdquo; (Claire&rsquo;s more recent conversation with Stephen).

S4E29 - Encore Series - Stephen Jenkinson and the Work of Dying

In this Encore episode of the Dying Your Way podcast, Claire O’Berry revisits a conversation with Dr. Marjorie Woollacott, world-renowned neuroscientist, tenured professor at the University of Oregon, and author of Infinite Awareness: The Awakening of the Scientific Mind.

While Dr. Woollacott’s early academic work focused on rehabilitation neuroscience, her current work explores consciousness research and end-of-life phenomena that challenge strictly materialist assumptions, including near-death experiences, terminal lucidity, and the dreams and visions many hospice patients report near the end of life.

This conversation invites listeners to set aside fixed beliefs about both science and religion and to listen with curiosity to the research, the clinical implications, and the human stories that continue to emerge.

In this episode, we explore:


Consciousness and the brain, including the “filter” hypothesis




A near-death experience account that raises clinically relevant questions




Terminal lucidity and why it matters for dementia, coma, and stroke care




End-of-life dreams and visions, and what they may mean for comfort and fear reduction




The implications for carers and clinicians supporting people who appear unresponsive



Links and resources mentioned in the episode are included below.

https://marjoriewoollacott.com/

https://dyingyourway.com/

https://galileocommission.org/

In this Encore episode of the Dying Your Way podcast, Claire O&rsquo;Berry revisits a conversation with Dr. Marjorie Woollacott, world-renowned neuroscientist, tenured professor at the University of Oregon, and author of Infinite Awareness: The Awakening of the Scientific Mind.
While Dr. Woollacott&rsquo;s early academic work focused on rehabilitation neuroscience, her current work explores consciousness research and end-of-life phenomena that challenge strictly materialist assumptions, including near-death experiences, terminal lucidity, and the dreams and visions many hospice patients report near the end of life.
This conversation invites listeners to set aside fixed beliefs about both science and religion and to listen with curiosity to the research, the clinical implications, and the human stories that continue to emerge.
In this episode, we explore:
<ul>
<li dir="ltr">
Consciousness and the brain, including the &ldquo;filter&rdquo; hypothesis 
</li>
<li dir="ltr">
A near-death experience account that raises clinically relevant questions 
</li>
<li dir="ltr">
Terminal lucidity and why it matters for dementia, coma, and stroke care 
</li>
<li dir="ltr">
End-of-life dreams and visions, and what they may mean for comfort and fear reduction 
</li>
<li dir="ltr">
The implications for carers and clinicians supporting people who appear unresponsive 
</li>
</ul>
Links and resources mentioned in the episode are included below.
<a href="https://marjoriewoollacott.com/">https://marjoriewoollacott.com/</a>
<a href="https://dyingyourway.com/">https://dyingyourway.com/</a>
<a href="https://galileocommission.org/">https://galileocommission.org/</a>

S4E28 - Encore Episode: Dr. Marjorie Woollacott on consciousness, NDEs, and terminal lucidity

In this Encore episode, Claire O’Berry speaks with Australian filmmaker Molly Reynolds, director of My Name Is Gulpilil, a documentary shaped around the final chapter of iconic actor and dancer David Gulpilil’s life.

Together, Claire and Molly explore what David’s story reveals about mortality, culture, identity, and the deep human longing to return to our roots at the end of life. The conversation moves through Aboriginal perspectives on Country and kinship, the complexities of care and access, and the way film can hold both beauty and hard truth.

Claire is resharing this conversation after recently watching Journey Home, David Gulpilil (narrated by Hugh Jackman), which tells David’s story of returning home and last wishes being honored.

In this episode


My Name Is Gulpilil and David’s life on screen and off




Country, belonging, and the importance of being laid to rest on ancestral land




How care systems can help, and how they can miss cultural realities




The role of story, art, and memory in preparing for death



Mentioned


My Name Is Gulpilil (Molly Reynolds)




Journey Home, David Gulpilil (narrated by Hugh Jackman)




Films connected to David’s career and collaborations, including Walkabout, Storm Boy, The Tracker, Ten Canoes, Charlie’s Country, and Another Country

In this Encore episode, Claire O&rsquo;Berry speaks with Australian filmmaker Molly Reynolds, director of My Name Is Gulpilil, a documentary shaped around the final chapter of iconic actor and dancer David Gulpilil&rsquo;s life.
Together, Claire and Molly explore what David&rsquo;s story reveals about mortality, culture, identity, and the deep human longing to return to our roots at the end of life. The conversation moves through Aboriginal perspectives on Country and kinship, the complexities of care and access, and the way film can hold both beauty and hard truth.
Claire is resharing this conversation after recently watching Journey Home, David Gulpilil (narrated by Hugh Jackman), which tells David&rsquo;s story of returning home and last wishes being honored.
In this episode
<ul>
<li dir="ltr">
My Name Is Gulpilil and David&rsquo;s life on screen and off 
</li>
<li dir="ltr">
Country, belonging, and the importance of being laid to rest on ancestral land 
</li>
<li dir="ltr">
How care systems can help, and how they can miss cultural realities 
</li>
<li dir="ltr">
The role of story, art, and memory in preparing for death 
</li>
</ul>
Mentioned
<ul>
<li dir="ltr">
My Name Is Gulpilil (Molly Reynolds) 
</li>
<li dir="ltr">
Journey Home, David Gulpilil (narrated by Hugh Jackman) 
</li>
<li dir="ltr">
Films connected to David&rsquo;s career and collaborations, including Walkabout, Storm Boy, The Tracker, Ten Canoes, Charlie&rsquo;s Country, and Another Country
</li>
</ul>

S4E27 - Encore Series — Molly Reynolds, David Gulpilil, and the  Final Return to Country

In this Encore Series episode, recorded in 2020 during the height of COVID, Claire O’Berry and Terry Mepham speak with Dr. Peter Fenwick and his wife, Elizabeth Fenwick, from Scotland.

Peter Fenwick, a renowned neuropsychiatrist and researcher, is widely known for his work exploring near-death experiences and what they may reveal about consciousness, dying, and the human experience at the end of life. Elizabeth Fenwick, a writer and long-time collaborator, brings clarity, warmth, and grounded insight to the conversation. Together, they authored The Art of Dying, the book at the heart of this episode.

This conversation is also a living legacy. Peter died in November 2024, and we offer love and condolences to Elizabeth and to all who are missing him.

In this episode, we explore:


What first drew Peter into near-death experience research, and what changed his scepticism


Deathbed visitors, end-of-life visions, and why they may matter deeply to the dying


The role of curiosity as a powerful antidote to fear


What preparation could look like, including repairing relationships and releasing old regrets


Why death literacy may deserve a stronger place in medical education and community care

Key moments include Peter’s simple invitation: “If you’re going to die, be curious,” and the reminder that we often talk about death as someone else’s story, not our own.

Subscribe, share, and join us as we continue building death literacy from diagnosis through grief and bereavement.

In this Encore Series episode, recorded in 2020 during the height of COVID, Claire O&rsquo;Berry and Terry Mepham speak with Dr. Peter Fenwick and his wife, Elizabeth Fenwick, from Scotland.
Peter Fenwick, a renowned neuropsychiatrist and researcher, is widely known for his work exploring near-death experiences and what they may reveal about consciousness, dying, and the human experience at the end of life. Elizabeth Fenwick, a writer and long-time collaborator, brings clarity, warmth, and grounded insight to the conversation. Together, they authored The Art of Dying, the book at the heart of this episode.
This conversation is also a living legacy. Peter died in November 2024, and we offer love and condolences to Elizabeth and to all who are missing him.
In this episode, we explore:
<ul>
<li>
What first drew Peter into near-death experience research, and what changed his scepticism
</li>
<li>
Deathbed visitors, end-of-life visions, and why they may matter deeply to the dying
</li>
<li>
The role of curiosity as a powerful antidote to fear
</li>
<li>
What preparation could look like, including repairing relationships and releasing old regrets
</li>
<li>
Why death literacy may deserve a stronger place in medical education and community care
</li>
</ul>
Key moments include Peter&rsquo;s simple invitation: &ldquo;If you&rsquo;re going to die, be curious,&rdquo; and the reminder that we often talk about death as someone else&rsquo;s story, not our own.
Subscribe, share, and join us as we continue building death literacy from diagnosis through grief and bereavement.

S4E26 - Encore Series for the Holidays — Peter & Elizabeth Fenwick and The Art of Dying

As the holidays approach, many people feel the quiet resurgence of grief — memories growing louder, empty chairs at the table, and the tender ache of “what ifs” and “if onlys.” In this rerun episode, we revisit Claire’s conversation with Ken Ross, son of Dr. Elisabeth Kübler-Ross and Founder of the EKR Foundation.

Together, they explore the true scope of Elisabeth’s pioneering work — beyond the five stages — into palliative care, hospice development worldwide, grief education, and her extraordinary legacy as a voice for the dying and those who love them.

This episode is a grounding, compassionate companion for anyone navigating grief during the holiday season.

In this episode:


The real meaning behind the “five stages”


Why Elisabeth stopped teaching the stages — and how media distorted them


Her role in building hospices around the world


Cultural barriers to palliative care and global end-of-life access


Personal stories from Ken’s life with his mother


How the EKR Foundation continues her mission today

If this conversation brings you comfort, please subscribe for free on YouTube, Apple, or Spotify — and share it with someone who may need a gentle resource this season.

Holiday Blessings from Dying Your Way — may you feel loved, supported, and never alone on your path.

Learn more or enroll: https://www.dyingyourway.com/eol-training
Contact Claire: info@dyingyourway.com

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As the holidays approach, many people feel the quiet resurgence of grief &mdash; memories growing louder, empty chairs at the table, and the tender ache of &ldquo;what ifs&rdquo; and &ldquo;if onlys.&rdquo; In this rerun episode, we revisit Claire&rsquo;s conversation with Ken Ross, son of Dr. Elisabeth K&uuml;bler-Ross and Founder of the EKR Foundation.
Together, they explore the true scope of Elisabeth&rsquo;s pioneering work &mdash; beyond the five stages &mdash; into palliative care, hospice development worldwide, grief education, and her extraordinary legacy as a voice for the dying and those who love them.
This episode is a grounding, compassionate companion for anyone navigating grief during the holiday season.
In this episode:
<ul>
<li>
The real meaning behind the &ldquo;five stages&rdquo;
</li>
<li>
Why Elisabeth stopped teaching the stages &mdash; and how media distorted them
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S4E25 - Encore Series for the Holidays — A Conversation with Ken Ross

Dying Your Way explores the practical heart and soul of our greatest exit. You will hear from family members, carers and patients themselves with profound insights that will shine a light on this mortal experience.

Join certified End of Life Doula as she speaks with experts in the field of death and dying as well as those who bravely share their personal stories as a real life experience.

This is the conversation that looks at death in the way it should be…a courageous and sacred event.

This is Dying Your Way

Join the conversation on our FaceBook group, search for Dying your Way. Or to learn more or contact us go to www.dyingyourway.com.

Dying Your Way explores the practical heart and soul of our greatest exit. You will hear from family members, carers and patients themselves with profound insights that will shine a light on this mortal experience.

Join certified End of Life Doula as she speaks with experts in the field of death and dying as well as those who bravely share their personal stories as a real life experience.

This is the conversation that looks at death in the way it should be…a courageous and sacred event.

This is Dying Your Way

Join the conversation on our FaceBook group, search for Dying your Way. Or to learn more or contact us go to www.dyingyourway.com.

Dying Your Way

Susan Goldie is the National Lead for End of Life Strategy for CCNB Limited, as it merges with the iconic Groundswell Project, which has led advocacy on better choices on death and dying in Australia since 2010. Susan is a leader making a difference with a vision to reclaim death as a shared community event and remove existing silos. She sees all Australians connected to quality, end of life providers and early palliative services, regardless of post code. And that is just a start! End of life is Susan’s “heartland” which is a combination of strategic approach, passion and exceptional experience.

Connect with Susan here:

LinkedIn - linkedin.com/in/susan-goldie-9abbb269

Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/D2KDay/

Websites - https://www.thegroundswellproject.com or https://ccnb.com.au

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Susan Goldie is the National Lead for End of Life Strategy for CCNB Limited, as it merges with the iconic Groundswell Project, which has led advocacy on better choices on death and dying in Australia since 2010. Susan is a leader making a difference with a vision to reclaim death as a shared community event and remove existing silos. She sees all Australians connected to quality, end of life providers and early palliative services,&nbsp;regardless of post code. And that is just a start! End of life is Susan&rsquo;s &ldquo;heartland&rdquo; which is a combination of strategic approach, passion and exceptional experience.
Connect with Susan here:
LinkedIn - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/susan-goldie-9abbb269">linkedin.com/in/susan-goldie-9abbb269</a>
Facebook -&nbsp;<a href="https://www.facebook.com/D2KDay/">https://www.facebook.com/D2KDay/</a>
Websites -&nbsp;<a href="https://www.thegroundswellproject.com/">https://www.thegroundswellproject.com </a>or <a href="https://ccnb.com.au/">https://ccnb.com.au</a>
Join the Dying Your Way conversation on our FaceBook group, search for Dying your Way. Or to learn more or contact us go to <a href="http://dyingyourway.com">www.dyingyourway.com</a>.

Dying Your Way Interview With Susan Goldie - Dying to Know Day and More

Rev Cress Darwin, pastor of the Second Presbyterian Church of Charleston, South Carolina, discusses many spiritual and practical matters on death and dying. He shares the unique perspective of a loving, inclusive community who were rocked by the senseless shooting at the Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in 2015. The power of forgiveness and the love of neighbors are lessons we can all apply to our own lives. He savors the topic of “God’s ubiquitous serendipity”, and how we are all called to be together; to forgive as we have been forgiven. Feel the love.

Connect with Rev Cress Darwin:

https://www.2ndpc.org/

https://www.facebook.com/SecondPresCharleston/

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Rev Cress Darwin, pastor of the Second Presbyterian Church of Charleston, South Carolina, discusses many spiritual and practical matters on death and dying. He shares the unique perspective of a loving, inclusive community who were rocked by the senseless shooting at the Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in 2015. The power of forgiveness and the love of neighbors are lessons we can all apply to our own&nbsp;lives. He savors the topic of &ldquo;God&rsquo;s ubiquitous serendipity&rdquo;, and how we are all called to be together; to forgive as we have been forgiven. Feel the love.
Connect with Rev Cress Darwin:
<a href="https://www.2ndpc.org/">https://www.2ndpc.org/</a>
<a href="https://www.facebook.com/SecondPresCharleston/">https://www.facebook.com/SecondPresCharleston/</a>
Join the Dying Your Way conversation on our FaceBook group, search for Dying your Way. Or to learn more or contact us go to <a href="http://dyingyourway.com">www.dyingyourway.com</a>.

Dying Your Way Interview with Rev Cress Darwin - God’s Ubiquitous Serendipity

Jill Brattain has become an ALS advocate after losing her husband, Dave, to ALS in 2019. Also known as Lou Gehrig’s Disease, amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS) is 100% fatal with no hope and no cure. Jill shares her amazing journey as Dave’s spouse and caregiver. She marvels that even with a terminal illness, joy is present.

With excellent palliative care and a team of caring professionals, a model is used that could be the standard for anyone with a life-threatening illness. Jill is a brave woman, turning her pain into intentional purpose, so others do not need to reinvent the wheel.

To connect with Jill visit:

https://iamals.org/

https://www.als.net/

https://www.neals.org/

https://www.facebook.com/groups/stillstandingals

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Jill Brattain has become an ALS advocate after losing her husband, Dave, to ALS in 2019. Also known as Lou Gehrig&rsquo;s Disease, amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS) is 100% fatal with no hope and no cure. Jill shares her amazing journey as Dave&rsquo;s spouse and caregiver. She marvels that even with a terminal illness, joy is present.
With excellent palliative care and a team of caring professionals, a model is used that could be the standard for anyone with a life-threatening illness. Jill is a brave woman, turning her pain into intentional purpose, so others do not need to reinvent the wheel.
To connect with Jill visit:
<a href="https://iamals.org/">https://iamals.org/</a>
<a href="https://www.als.net/">https://www.als.net/</a>
<a href="https://www.neals.org/">https://www.neals.org/</a>
<a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/stillstandingals">https://www.facebook.com/groups/stillstandingals</a>
Join the Dying Your Way conversation on our FaceBook group, search for Dying your Way. Or to learn more or contact us go to <a href="http://dyingyourway.com">www.dyingyourway.com</a>.

Dying Your Way Interview With Jill Brattain - Finding Moments That Matter - An ALS Journey

Elysium Cruise Residence is a luxury, innovative solution to aged care for those who need staged levels of care at the end of life. This is an alternative to land-locked assisted living and aged care …. on the high seas! Listen to Andre Sidler and Avril Hanna speak about their passion and solution to give empowerment, dignity and independence to an aging population in need of special levels of care. Out-of-the box thinking becomes a reality!

https://elysiumcruiseresidence.com

https://www.facebook.com/elysiumcruise

https://www.pinterest.nz/674e6bd5bbaf8e604da93832bfbc9c/elysium-cruise-residencetm-cruise-based-aged-care/

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Elysium Cruise Residence is a luxury, innovative solution to aged care for those who need staged levels of care at the end of life. This is an alternative to land-locked assisted living and aged care &hellip;. on the high seas! Listen to Andre Sidler and Avril Hanna speak about their passion and solution to give empowerment, dignity and independence to an aging population in need of special levels of care. Out-of-the box thinking becomes a reality!
<a href="https://elysiumcruiseresidence.com/">https://elysiumcruiseresidence.com</a>
<a href="https://www.facebook.com/elysiumcruise">https://www.facebook.com/elysiumcruise</a>
<a href="https://www.pinterest.nz/674e6bd5bbaf8e604da93832bfbc9c/elysium-cruise-residencetm-cruise-based-aged-care/">https://www.pinterest.nz/674e6bd5bbaf8e604da93832bfbc9c/elysium-cruise-residencetm-cruise-based-aged-care/</a>
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Dying Your Way Interview With Andre Silder and Avril Hanna - Luxury Innovative Alternatives to Aged Care

Everyone knows Elizabeth Kubler Ross, author of 24 books, most famously, On Death and Dying describing the 5 stages of grief. Her son, Ken Ross, is the Founder and President of the non-profit, EKR Foundation that keeps her legacy alive. Because of his tireless efforts, a new generation embraces death honestly and compassionately.

The EKR Foundation has global outreach with 10 international chapters and book translations in 41 languages; all the while promoting death literacy and palliative care for those “graduating”. Follow the links below for more information and enjoy the conversation with Ken Ross.

Website Link for Ken Ross

http://www.ekrfoundation.org

Instagram

https://www.instagram.com/elisabethkublerrossfoundation/

Join the Dying Your Way conversation on our FaceBook group, search for Dying your Way. Or to learn more or contact us go to www.dyingyourway.com.

Everyone knows Elizabeth Kubler Ross, author of 24 books, most famously, On Death and Dying describing the 5 stages of grief. Her son, Ken Ross, is the Founder and President of the non-profit, EKR Foundation that keeps her legacy alive. Because of his tireless efforts, a new generation embraces death honestly and compassionately.
The EKR Foundation has global outreach with 10 international chapters and book translations in 41 languages; all the while promoting death literacy and palliative care for those &ldquo;graduating&rdquo;. Follow the links below for more information and enjoy the conversation with Ken Ross.
Website Link for Ken Ross
<a href="http://www.ekrfoundation.org/">http://www.ekrfoundation.org</a>
Instagram
<a href="https://www.instagram.com/elisabethkublerrossfoundation/">https://www.instagram.com/elisabethkublerrossfoundation/</a>
Join the Dying Your Way conversation on our FaceBook group, search for Dying your Way. Or to learn more or contact us go to <a href="http://dyingyourway.com">www.dyingyourway.com</a>.

Dying Your Way Interview With Ken Ross - Elizabeth Kubler Ross Explained

Going through a traumatic experience was the impetus for Moniquea Spiteri to become a voice for change. As a psychotherapist she specializes in those suffering with PTSD and addiction. Her wholistic approach to mental suffering supports hundreds to recover and grow after intense grief and trauma. Listen to her personal and first-hand accounts of post traumatic growth!

Connect with Moniquea Spiteri here:

https://www.facebook.com/somaticsynergy/

https://images.app.goo.gl/F77QXFQSv7FH5qW98

https://somaticsynergy.com.au/

 

Grief Hotline 1-800-975-014

https://busseltonhospicecareinc.org.au/bereavement-support/

 

Join the Dying Your Way conversation on our FaceBook group, search for Dying your Way. Or to learn more or contact us go to www.dyingyourway.com.

Going through a traumatic experience was the impetus for Moniquea Spiteri to become a voice for change. As a psychotherapist she specializes in those suffering with PTSD and addiction. Her wholistic approach to mental suffering supports hundreds to recover and grow after intense grief and trauma. Listen to her personal and first-hand accounts of post traumatic growth!
Connect with Moniquea Spiteri here:
<a href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fsomaticsynergy%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C176a8ace6a6646ed05b908d9060d41b2%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637547476270332893%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=Pgjd43gIMJMYvelFSZ2TG0hZzA1dksg%2B9PHbpwKXgJc%3D&amp;reserved=0">https://www.facebook.com/somaticsynergy/</a>
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&nbsp;
Grief Hotline 1-800-975-014
<a href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fbusseltonhospicecareinc.org.au%2Fbereavement-support%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C176a8ace6a6646ed05b908d9060d41b2%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637547476270342884%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=4BWkf4WvQyQTcDDntjJ30eif%2FVua3VyaEGi7eNogKls%3D&amp;reserved=0">https://busseltonhospicecareinc.org.au/bereavement-support/</a>
&nbsp;
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Dying Your Way Interview with Moniquea Spiteri - Grief and Post Traumatic Growth

Hospice and oncology nurse, Michelle Lasota, is featured in the heartwarming documentary, The Nurse with the Purple Hair, by renowned film director Sean Cunningham. She is just one of the kindness human beings you’ll meet in the death and dying community. Full of wisdom and compassion, hear this discussion on hospice in America and end of life care.

Connect with Michelle here - 

https://www.thenursewiththepurplehair.com/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/michelle-lasota-63447a4b/

https://www.facebook.com/michelle.lasota.14

Join the Dying Your Way conversation on our FaceBook group, search for Dying your Way. Or to learn more or contact us go to www.dyingyourway.com.

Hospice and oncology nurse, Michelle Lasota, is featured in the heartwarming documentary, The Nurse with the Purple Hair, by renowned film director Sean Cunningham. She is just one of the kindness human beings you&rsquo;ll meet in the death and dying community. Full of wisdom and compassion, hear this discussion on hospice in America and end of life care.
Connect with Michelle here -&nbsp;
<a href="https://www.thenursewiththepurplehair.com/">https://www.thenursewiththepurplehair.com/</a>
<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/michelle-lasota-63447a4b/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/michelle-lasota-63447a4b/</a>
<a href="https://www.facebook.com/michelle.lasota.14">https://www.facebook.com/michelle.lasota.14</a>
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Dying Your Way Interview with Michelle Lasota - The Nurse With the Purple Hair

What do you do when you are given 0% chance of living beyond 18 months?

Learn how Executive Coach, Di Foster, takes a grim prognosis and turns it into a LIFE sentence and “radical remission”. This is a story of pragmatic hope and intense gratitude that teaches us all how to live life more fully.

Connect with Di Foster here:

https://www.difoster.com/

https://www.facebook.com/difoster.live/

https://www.instagram.com/difoster.live/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/di-foster/

Join the Dying Your Way conversation on our FaceBook group, search for Dying your Way. Or to learn more or contact us go to www.dyingyourway.com.

What do you do when you are given 0% chance of living beyond 18 months?
Learn how Executive Coach, Di Foster, takes a grim prognosis and turns it into a LIFE sentence and &ldquo;radical remission&rdquo;. This is a story of pragmatic hope and intense gratitude that teaches us all how to live life more fully.
Connect with Di Foster here:
<a href="https://www.difoster.com/">https://www.difoster.com/</a>
<a href="https://www.facebook.com/difoster.live/">https://www.facebook.com/difoster.live/</a>
<a href="https://www.instagram.com/difoster.live/">https://www.instagram.com/difoster.live/</a>
<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/di-foster/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/di-foster/</a>
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Dying Your Way Interview With Di Foster - Miracles Happen

Dipka Delmenico is a modern woman with ancient wisdom. We explore Ayurvedic principles that can be applied to the end of life. Dipika is practical, heart-warming and wise. She teaches us to practice self-love and wellness at every life stage up until our last breath. See the links to her website and Amazon to purchase her book, The Ayurvedic Woman.

https://www.dipikadelmenico.com

https://www.amazon.com.au/Ayurvedic-Woman-Essential-Wellness-Womanhood-ebook/dp/B07JP7NJTY

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Dipka Delmenico is a modern woman with ancient wisdom. We explore Ayurvedic principles that can be applied to the end of life. Dipika is practical, heart-warming and wise. She teaches us to practice self-love and wellness at every life stage up until our last breath. See the links to her website and Amazon to purchase her book, The Ayurvedic Woman.
<a href="https://www.dipikadelmenico.com/">https://www.dipikadelmenico.com</a>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Ayurvedic-Woman-Essential-Wellness-Womanhood-ebook/dp/B07JP7NJTY">https://www.amazon.com.au/Ayurvedic-Woman-Essential-Wellness-Womanhood-ebook/dp/B07JP7NJTY</a>
Join the Dying Your Way conversation on our FaceBook group, search for Dying your Way. Or to learn more or contact us go to <a href="http://www.dyingyourway.com">www.dyingyourway.com</a>.

Dying Your Way Interview with Dipika Delmenico - Auryvedic Support for End of Life Care

Jennifer O’Brien, author of The Hospice Doctor’s Widow: A Journal, explores love and loss, pain and recovery, grief and the light at the end of the tunnel - as well as creativity as a healing tool. Jennifer has helped thousands live and love more fully by sharing her wisdom as a family caregiver and widow.

https://www.hospicedrswidow.com

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Jennifer O’Brien, author of The Hospice Doctor’s Widow: A Journal, explores love and loss, pain and recovery, grief and the light at the end of the tunnel - as well as creativity as a healing tool. Jennifer has helped thousands live and love more fully by sharing her wisdom as a family caregiver and widow.

<a href="https://www.hospicedrswidow.com/" target="_blank">https://www.hospicedrswidow.com</a>   

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Dying Your Way Interview with Jennifer O'Brien - The Hospice Doctor’s Widow and Precious Time

Dying Your Way explores the practical heart and soul of our greatest exit. You will hear from family members, carers and patients themselves with profound insights that will shine a light on this mortal experience.
Join certified End of Life Doula as she speaks with experts in the field of death and dying as well as those who bravely share their personal stories as a real life experience.
This is the conversation that looks at death in the way it should be&hellip;a courageous and sacred event.
This is Dying Your Way
Join the conversation on our FaceBook group, search for Dying your Way. Or to learn more or contact us go to www.dyingyourway.com.

Dying Your Way with Claire O'Berry

Dying Your Way explores the practical heart and soul of our greatest exit. You will hear from family members, carers and patients themselves with profound insights that will shine a light on this mortal experience.
Join certified End of Life Doula as she speaks with experts in the field of death and dying as well as those who bravely share their personal stories as a real life experience.
This is the conversation that looks at death in the way it should be&hellip;a courageous and sacred event.
This is Dying Your Way
Join the conversation on our FaceBook group, search for Dying your Way. Or to learn more or contact us go to <a href="http://www.dyingyourway.com">www.dyingyourway.com</a>.

Dying Your Way With Claire O'Berry

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