Today on the show...

• Historian Richard Wolfe and his new book, The Curious Case of the Kiwi.
• It’s our national symbol, the flightless bird. What do we know about it? When did we first see it as our national bird? Have we looked after it or used and abused it? It’s a  symbol of peace on the battlefield, yet we have also adopted the name for ourselves. It’s odd but entrenched

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