What does Project 2025 mean for climate policy and what should we expect to hear (or not hear) about climate in this week’s presidential debate? In Spill, our climate talk show, Mary Annaïse Heglar and Amy Westervelt break down the political moments shaping climate action in the United States.

 

What does Project 2025 mean for climate policy and what should we expect to hear (or not hear) about climate in this week&rsquo;s presidential debate? In Spill, our climate talk show, Mary Anna&iuml;se Heglar and Amy Westervelt break down the political moments shaping climate action in the United States.
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Drilled is a true-crime climate change podcast exposing how corporate corruption and political operatives built decades of climate denial and delay. Hosted and reported by award-winning investigative climate journalists and led by Amy Westervelt, each season unravels new evidence of deception, disinformation, and the power structures keeping real climate solutions out of reach.

Drilled is a true-crime climate change podcast exposing how corporate corruption and political operatives built decades of climate denial and delay. Hosted and reported by award-winning investigative climate journalists and led by Amy Westervelt, each season unravels new evidence of deception, disinformation, and the power structures keeping real climate solutions out of reach.

A true-crime podcast about climate change, hosted and reported by award-winning investigative journalist Amy Westervelt.

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Climate and Project 2025: Mary Annaïse Heglar & Amy Westervelt on Spill

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Amy Westervelt, Nina Lakhani and Alleen Brown chat about Standing Rock 10 years later, Global Witness's latest report on assassinations of land defenders, and why Palestinians in Gaza are land defenders, too. Meanwhile, Afro-Indigenous Garífuna leaders in Honduras have set up an occupation in front of the country's Supreme Court, in defense of their land rights. Nina interviews Karen Spring, coordinator of the the Honduras Solidarity Network, about what this has to do with Trump and the TV show Survivor. 

Reading list from today’s show:

1. The Propagandist, Drilled's narrative podcast series on propaganda aimed against the Standing Rock movement

2. Global Witness's annual report on assassinations of land defenders 

3. Nina Lakhani's chapter on ecocide in Gaza is featured in the book Gaza: The Story of a Genocide 

4. Nina's other book, Who Killed Berta Cáceres?: Dams, Death Squads, and an Indigenous Defender’s Battle for the Planet 

5. El libro de Nina, traducción al español, ¿Quién mató a Berta Cáceres? 

6. Reportage desde el campamento de resistencia Garífuna por la periodista Mexicana Blanche Petrich 

7. Amy Westervelt's new book, Brought to You By: How Corporations Warped the Truth, Conned the Public, and Broke Democracy

Amy Westervelt, Nina Lakhani and Alleen Brown chat about Standing Rock 10 years later, Global Witness's latest report on assassinations of land defenders, and why Palestinians in Gaza are land defenders, too. Meanwhile, Afro-Indigenous Gar&iacute;funa leaders in Honduras have set up an occupation in front of the country's Supreme Court, in defense of their land rights. Nina interviews Karen Spring, coordinator of the the Honduras Solidarity Network, about what this has to do with Trump and the TV show Survivor. Reading list from today&rsquo;s show: 1. <a href="https://drilled.media/podcasts/drilled/s16-ep01/">The Propagandist, Drilled's narrative podcast series on propaganda aimed against the Standing Rock movement</a> 2. <a href="https://globalwitness.org/en/campaigns/land-and-environmental-defenders/collective-power/">Global Witness's annual report on assassinations of land defenders</a>&nbsp; 3. <a href="https://www.versobooks.com/products/3511-gaza?srsltid=AU7gw4WGuOMW76kHeSmAsAoS_WUZm3sf2fjgf6deCMbtw4lJJ6Z-C3wm">Nina Lakhani's chapter on ecocide in Gaza is featured in the book Gaza: The Story of a Genocide</a>&nbsp; 4. <a href="https://www.versobooks.com/products/790-who-killed-berta-caceres?srsltid=AU7gw4XxSeVkMApvWyPo9OgkqqJayCuvLSjv5wImj9TKWbSyf1h6uits">Nina's other book, Who Killed Berta C&aacute;ceres?: Dams, Death Squads, and an Indigenous Defender&rsquo;s Battle for the Planet</a>&nbsp; 5. <a href="https://icariaeditorial.com/ecologia-y-medio-ambiente/4700-quien-mato-a-berta-caceres.html">El libro de Nina, traducci&oacute;n al espa&ntilde;ol, &iquest;Qui&eacute;n mat&oacute; a Berta C&aacute;ceres?</a>&nbsp; 6. <a href="https://www.jornada.com.mx/noticia/2026/09/22/politica/honduras-laboratorio-de-la-extrema-derecha-desde-hace-muchos-anos">Reportage desde el campamento de resistencia Gar&iacute;funa por la periodista Mexicana Blanche Petrich</a>&nbsp; 7. <a href="https://geni.us/broughttoyouby">Amy Westervelt's new book, Brought to You By: How Corporations Warped the Truth, Conned the Public, and Broke Democracy</a>

Garifuna land defenders vs. Survivor (as in the TV show) | The Spill

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Drilled global climate justice reporter Nina Lakhani interviews Elisa Morgera, the UN Special Rapporteur on Climate Change about Morgera’s latest report on the fundamental shortcomings of credit markets. Posed as a solution to the climate crisis, carbon credit markets have for years failed to deliver, while violating the human rights of the people most impacted by the climate crisis. Meanwhile, states have developed carbon tunnel-vision, fixating on schemes to reduce carbon emissions, while avoiding the root cause of the issue: fossil fuels. Lakhani and Morgera discuss all that and more.

Reading list from today’s show:
 
1. Elisa Morgera's latest report on rethinking carbon markets. 

2. Elisa's report on transforming food systems

3. Diana Taremwa-Karakire's recent piece for Drilled on a Kenyan carbon credit project

4. Nina Lakhani’s analysis on the Santa Marta climate conference on transitioning away from fossil fuels 
 
5. More reporting on the failures of carbon markets 
 
6. Amy Westervelt's book: https://geni.us/broughttoyouby

Drilled global climate justice reporter Nina Lakhani interviews Elisa Morgera, the UN Special Rapporteur on Climate Change about Morgera&rsquo;s latest report on the fundamental shortcomings of credit markets. Posed as a solution to the climate crisis, carbon credit markets have for years failed to deliver, while violating the human rights of the people most impacted by the climate crisis. Meanwhile, states have developed carbon tunnel-vision, fixating on schemes to reduce carbon emissions, while avoiding the root cause of the issue: fossil fuels. Lakhani and Morgera discuss all that and more. Reading list from today&rsquo;s show: &nbsp; 1. <a href="https://www.ohchr.org/en/documents/thematic-reports/a81217-rethinking-carbon-credits-according-climate-and-human-rights">Elisa Morgera's latest report on rethinking carbon markets.</a>&nbsp; 2. <a href="https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2026/06/transforming-food-systems-key-protecting-climate-and-human-rights-says-un">Elisa's report on transforming food systems</a> 3. <a href="https://drilled.media/news/rangelands">Diana Taremwa-Karakire's recent piece for Drilled on a Kenyan carbon credit project</a> 4. <a href="https://drilled.media/news/santa-marta-analysis">Nina Lakhani&rsquo;s analysis on the Santa Marta climate conference on transitioning away from fossil fuels</a>&nbsp; &nbsp; 5. <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/nov/06/carbon-offsetting-market-collapses-what-happens-to-the-forests-they-hoped-to-protect-aoe?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other">More reporting on the failures of carbon markets</a>&nbsp; &nbsp; 6. Amy Westervelt's book:&nbsp;<a href="https://geni.us/broughttoyouby">https://geni.us/broughttoyouby</a>

Carbon Credit Markets Have a Human Rights Problem | The Spill

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Today we're sharing an episode of OCCUPY!: An Unfinished Uprising. The story of Occupy Wall Street — how it exploded, how it collapsed, and why its lessons may matter more now than ever before — from the voices of activists who camped out in New York City for two months.

If you like what you hear, find OCCUPY!: An Unfinished Uprising wherever you listen to podcasts.

Today we're sharing an episode of OCCUPY!: An Unfinished Uprising. The story of Occupy Wall Street &mdash; how it exploded, how it collapsed, and why its lessons may matter more now than ever before &mdash; from the voices of activists who camped out in New York City for two months.
If you like what you hear, find <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/occupy-an-unfinished-uprising/id6804810700">OCCUPY!: An Unfinished Uprising</a> wherever you listen to podcasts.

The Invitation from OCCUPY!: An Unfinished Uprising

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