In this extended conversation, climate policy expert Abdul El-Sayed explores the complexities of the climate crisis and the role of masculinity in shaping how men engage, or fail to engage, with climate solutions.

In this extended conversation, climate policy expert Abdul El-Sayed explores the complexities of the climate crisis and the role of masculinity in shaping how men engage, or fail to engage, with climate solutions.

Drilled is a true-crime climate change podcast exposing how corporate corruption and political operatives built decades of climate denial and delay. Hosted and reported by award-winning investigative climate journalists and led by Amy Westervelt, each season unravels new evidence of deception, disinformation, and the power structures keeping real climate solutions out of reach.

Drilled is a true-crime climate change podcast exposing how corporate corruption and political operatives built decades of climate denial and delay. Hosted and reported by award-winning investigative climate journalists and led by Amy Westervelt, each season unravels new evidence of deception, disinformation, and the power structures keeping real climate solutions out of reach.

A true-crime podcast about climate change, hosted and reported by award-winning investigative journalist Amy Westervelt.

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Abdul El-Sayed on Climate Complexities and Benevolent Masculinity

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In this week's episode Alleen Brown speaks with Aru Shiney-Ajay, executive director of The Sunrise Movement about being infiltrated by the feds, why fighting authoritarianism is a climate fight, and more. 

In this week's episode Alleen Brown speaks with Aru Shiney-Ajay, executive director of The Sunrise Movement about being infiltrated by the feds, why fighting authoritarianism is a climate fight, and more.&nbsp;

The Climate Movement Fights Back

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This week we’re sharing a special episode from our friends at the Real Organic Podcast, the Anthem-award-winning “Best Sustainability, Environment & Climate Podcast” produced by the Real Organic Project. Recently named one of the "best climate podcasts" by Earth.org, the Real Organic Podcast uncovers the forces reshaping organic farming today. Hosted by Linley Dixon and Dave Chapman, each episode features deep conversations with farmers, scientists, chefs, and journalists fighting to keep the organic movement truly organic. Like today’s special episode, featuring Drilled’s own Amy Westervelt, for a conversation about the hidden systems and greenwashing campaigns that have shaped public discourse and debate for more than a century. From early corporate PR to modern think tanks and strategic legal influence, she shows how the information ecosystem itself has been bent in service of fossil fuel profits. 

For more episodes like this, make sure to follow Real Organic Podcast, on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. And tell them we sent you.

This week we&rsquo;re sharing a special episode from our friends at the Real Organic Podcast, the Anthem-award-winning &ldquo;Best Sustainability, Environment &amp; Climate Podcast&rdquo; produced by the Real Organic Project. Recently named one of the "best climate podcasts" by Earth.org, the Real Organic Podcast uncovers the forces reshaping organic farming today. Hosted by Linley Dixon and Dave Chapman, each episode features deep conversations with farmers, scientists, chefs, and journalists fighting to keep the organic movement truly organic. Like today&rsquo;s special episode, featuring Drilled&rsquo;s own Amy Westervelt, for a conversation about the hidden systems and greenwashing campaigns that have shaped public discourse and debate for more than a century. From early corporate PR to modern think tanks and strategic legal influence, she shows how the information ecosystem itself has been bent in service of fossil fuel profits. For more episodes like this, make sure to follow Real Organic Podcast, on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. And tell them we sent you.

Amy Westervelt on the Real Organic Podcast: Think Tanks, Greenwashing + The War on Reality

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Amy Westervelt, Nina Lakhani and Alleen Brown on the world on fire, how the media is covering the climate crisis, what's happening with the industry as a whole, and how it all relates to rising authoritarianism. The Spill is our new weekly show to bring you news, rants, and interviews in between narrative seasons.

Reading list from today's show:
Amy's book: geni.us/broughttoyouby
The Guardian on fossil fuel companies' war profiteering: https://www.theguardian.com/business/ng-interactive/2026/aug/04/revealed-major-oil-firms-make-93bn-profits-amid-war-and-climate-crisis
Nina's past reporting on extreme heat deaths: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/ng-interactive/2025/oct/09/extreme-heat-deaths-autopsy
Drilled coverage of criminal conduct in Venezuela: https://drilled.media/news/hopenhaym
Drilled reporting on the U.S.-Venezuela-Guyana triangle: https://drilled.media/news/guyana-venezuela
Alleen's new series "The Propagandist": https://drilled.media/podcasts/drilled/16/s16-ep01

Amy Westervelt, Nina Lakhani and Alleen Brown on the world on fire, how the media is covering the climate crisis, what's happening with the industry as a whole, and how it all relates to rising authoritarianism.&nbsp;The Spill is our new weekly show to bring you news, rants, and interviews in between narrative seasons.
Reading list from today's show:
<ul>
<li>Amy's book: <a href="http://geni.us/broughttoyouby">geni.us/broughttoyouby</a></li>
<li>The Guardian on fossil fuel companies' war profiteering: <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/business/ng-interactive/2026/aug/04/revealed-major-oil-firms-make-93bn-profits-amid-war-and-climate-crisis">https://www.theguardian.com/business/ng-interactive/2026/aug/04/revealed-major-oil-firms-make-93bn-profits-amid-war-and-climate-crisis</a></li>
<li>Nina's past reporting on extreme heat deaths: <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/environment/ng-interactive/2025/oct/09/extreme-heat-deaths-autopsy">https://www.theguardian.com/environment/ng-interactive/2025/oct/09/extreme-heat-deaths-autopsy</a></li>
<li>Drilled coverage of criminal conduct in Venezuela: <a href="https://drilled.media/news/hopenhaym">https://drilled.media/news/hopenhaym</a></li>
<li>Drilled reporting on the U.S.-Venezuela-Guyana triangle: <a href="https://drilled.media/news/guyana-venezuela">https://drilled.media/news/guyana-venezuela</a></li>
<li>Alleen's new series "The Propagandist": <a href="https://drilled.media/news/guyana-venezuela">https://drilled.media/podcasts/drilled/16/s16-ep01</a></li>
</ul>

Welcome to "The Spill," Our New Weekly Newscast

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Abdul El-Sayed on Climate Complexities and Benevolent Masculinity

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