In this extended conversation, climate policy expert Abdul El-Sayed explores the complexities of the climate crisis and the role of masculinity in shaping how men engage, or fail to engage, with climate solutions.

In this extended conversation, climate policy expert Abdul El-Sayed explores the complexities of the climate crisis and the role of masculinity in shaping how men engage, or fail to engage, with climate solutions.

Drilled is a true-crime climate change podcast exposing how corporate corruption and political operatives built decades of climate denial and delay. Hosted and reported by award-winning investigative climate journalists and led by Amy Westervelt, each season unravels new evidence of deception, disinformation, and the power structures keeping real climate solutions out of reach.

Drilled is a true-crime climate change podcast exposing how corporate corruption and political operatives built decades of climate denial and delay. Hosted and reported by award-winning investigative climate journalists and led by Amy Westervelt, each season unravels new evidence of deception, disinformation, and the power structures keeping real climate solutions out of reach.

A true-crime podcast about climate change, hosted and reported by award-winning investigative journalist Amy Westervelt.

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Abdul El-Sayed on Climate Complexities and Benevolent Masculinity

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Most proposals to keep fossil fuels in the ground rely on taking new minerals out of the ground — especially lithium, a major component in the batteries powering electric vehicles. In Thea Riofrancos' book, Extraction, she visits the communities most impacted by lithium mining, explores the mineral's politics and history, and proposes a pathway toward harm reduction. 

Reading list from today’s show:

1. Thea Riofrancos' book, Extraction: The Frontiers of Green Capitalism 

2. Amy Westervelt's new book, Brought to You By: How Corporations Warped the Truth, Conned the Public, and Broke Democracy 

Most proposals to keep fossil fuels in the ground rely on taking new minerals out of the ground &mdash; especially lithium, a major component in the batteries powering electric vehicles. In Thea Riofrancos' book, Extraction, she visits the communities most impacted by lithium mining, explores the mineral's politics and history, and proposes a pathway toward harm reduction. Reading list from today&rsquo;s show: 1. <a href="https://wwnorton.com/books/9781324036760/overview">Thea Riofrancos' book, Extraction: The Frontiers of Green Capitalism</a>&nbsp; 2. <a href="https://geni.us/broughttoyouby">Amy Westervelt's new book, Brought to You By: How Corporations Warped the Truth, Conned the Public, and Broke Democracy</a>&nbsp;

The Paradox of Mining Lithium to Save the Planet | The Spill

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Tech billionaires have increasing influence over all aspects of our lives, and it's not by accident. Amy Westervelt and Gil Durán both recently published books examining the ideas and individuals driving the phenomenon. They discuss what it has to do with the climate crisis and the deterioration of democracy. 

Reading list from today’s show:

1. Gil Durán's new book, The Nerd Reich: Silicon Valley Fascism and the War on Democracy 

2. Amy Westervelt's new book, Brought to You By: How Corporations Warped the Truth, Conned the Public, and Broke Democracy

3. Lithub interview between Gil and Amy

Tech billionaires have increasing influence over all aspects of our lives, and it's not by accident. Amy Westervelt and Gil Dur&aacute;n both recently published books examining the ideas and individuals driving the phenomenon. They discuss what it has to do with the climate crisis and the deterioration of democracy. Reading list from today&rsquo;s show: 1. <a href="https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-Nerd-Reich/Gil-Duran/9781668221402">Gil Dur&aacute;n's new book, The Nerd Reich: Silicon Valley Fascism and the War on Democracy</a>&nbsp; 2. <a href="https://geni.us/broughttoyouby">Amy Westervelt's new book, Brought to You By: How Corporations Warped the Truth, Conned the Public, and Broke Democracy</a> 3. <a href="https://lithub.com/the-real-technofascists-of-silicon-valley-why-big-tech-oligarchs-hate-democracy/">Lithub interview between Gil and Amy</a>

How Tech Billionaires Broke Democracy | The Spill

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Amy Westervelt, Nina Lakhani and Alleen Brown chat about Standing Rock 10 years later, Global Witness's latest report on assassinations of land defenders, and why Palestinians in Gaza are land defenders, too. Meanwhile, Afro-Indigenous Garífuna leaders in Honduras have set up an occupation in front of the country's Supreme Court, in defense of their land rights. Nina interviews Karen Spring, coordinator of the the Honduras Solidarity Network, about what this has to do with Trump and the TV show Survivor. 

Reading list from today’s show:

1. The Propagandist, Drilled's narrative podcast series on propaganda aimed against the Standing Rock movement

2. Global Witness's annual report on assassinations of land defenders 

3. Nina Lakhani's chapter on ecocide in Gaza is featured in the book Gaza: The Story of a Genocide 

4. Nina's other book, Who Killed Berta Cáceres?: Dams, Death Squads, and an Indigenous Defender’s Battle for the Planet 

5. El libro de Nina, traducción al español, ¿Quién mató a Berta Cáceres? 

6. Reportage desde el campamento de resistencia Garífuna por la periodista Mexicana Blanche Petrich 

7. Amy Westervelt's new book, Brought to You By: How Corporations Warped the Truth, Conned the Public, and Broke Democracy

Amy Westervelt, Nina Lakhani and Alleen Brown chat about Standing Rock 10 years later, Global Witness's latest report on assassinations of land defenders, and why Palestinians in Gaza are land defenders, too. Meanwhile, Afro-Indigenous Gar&iacute;funa leaders in Honduras have set up an occupation in front of the country's Supreme Court, in defense of their land rights. Nina interviews Karen Spring, coordinator of the the Honduras Solidarity Network, about what this has to do with Trump and the TV show Survivor. Reading list from today&rsquo;s show: 1. <a href="https://drilled.media/podcasts/drilled/s16-ep01/">The Propagandist, Drilled's narrative podcast series on propaganda aimed against the Standing Rock movement</a> 2. <a href="https://globalwitness.org/en/campaigns/land-and-environmental-defenders/collective-power/">Global Witness's annual report on assassinations of land defenders</a>&nbsp; 3. <a href="https://www.versobooks.com/products/3511-gaza?srsltid=AU7gw4WGuOMW76kHeSmAsAoS_WUZm3sf2fjgf6deCMbtw4lJJ6Z-C3wm">Nina Lakhani's chapter on ecocide in Gaza is featured in the book Gaza: The Story of a Genocide</a>&nbsp; 4. <a href="https://www.versobooks.com/products/790-who-killed-berta-caceres?srsltid=AU7gw4XxSeVkMApvWyPo9OgkqqJayCuvLSjv5wImj9TKWbSyf1h6uits">Nina's other book, Who Killed Berta C&aacute;ceres?: Dams, Death Squads, and an Indigenous Defender&rsquo;s Battle for the Planet</a>&nbsp; 5. <a href="https://icariaeditorial.com/ecologia-y-medio-ambiente/4700-quien-mato-a-berta-caceres.html">El libro de Nina, traducci&oacute;n al espa&ntilde;ol, &iquest;Qui&eacute;n mat&oacute; a Berta C&aacute;ceres?</a>&nbsp; 6. <a href="https://www.jornada.com.mx/noticia/2026/09/22/politica/honduras-laboratorio-de-la-extrema-derecha-desde-hace-muchos-anos">Reportage desde el campamento de resistencia Gar&iacute;funa por la periodista Mexicana Blanche Petrich</a>&nbsp; 7. <a href="https://geni.us/broughttoyouby">Amy Westervelt's new book, Brought to You By: How Corporations Warped the Truth, Conned the Public, and Broke Democracy</a>

Garifuna land defenders vs. Survivor (as in the TV show) | The Spill

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