We Got Skills with Antwon Tanner • EP110

Published Aug 30, 2021, 4:00 AM

Antwon Tanner aka “Skills” joins the Drama Queens! He reveals that he wanted his character to date one of the three core girls, and even pitched a storyline to the writers! He also gives the Queens some sweet insights on his character’s relationship with Deb Scott.


This episode takes Hilarie back to some memories of her experiences living in Wilmington on her own. 


Acting Tip 101 - get the inside scoop on why sexy scenes aren’t really sexy. Hint: there’s usually chin choreography involved.


OTH innovation alert! Not only did the Queens invent Uber, but they also may have invented the Selfie! 

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First of all, you don't know me. Were all about that high school drama, Girl Drama, Girl, all about them high school queens. We'll take you for a ride in our comic Girl Cheering for the Drama Queens Girl Fashion, but you'll tough, girl, You can sit with us. Girl Drama, Queens Drama, Queen's Drama, Queen's Drama drawn MC Queen's Drama. Queen's Episode ten. You gotta go there to come back. You gotta go there to come back. You can't come back from nowhere. Air date January twenty, two thousand and four. Big Ideas. In this episode, Lucas and Peyton try and redefine their friendship after Lucas chooses to be with her best friend. It was a firm choice, guys. The beginning of the episode was so rough when he basically just lays out like she's got too much baggage. Wow, which is ironic. I don't know, because Brooks clearly got a lot of stuff going on to I mean, I don't know, it's it's maybe not as obvious, but well, that's it. Let's talk about that, because I think we've addressed the fact that, like Brooke and Peyton are friends because they have similar baggage absolutee parents. You know, they both are trying to prove themselves in different ways. Um, but Brooke is on the outside like fun and bubbily and is hiding her baggage, whereas Peyton's like, I'm going to wear this like a cloak, a velvet cloak of doom. Well, Brooke has there's such a veneer to her. I think because everything that she's been and this was sort of the way I had to think about it anyway, was that the way she'd been raised was to appear great, Like everything looks perfect. We pretend our families perfect, even though the parents are fighting and obviously eventually get divorced and you know, all these things. And so Brooke is like all her validation comes from the outside, you know, being the captain of the cheer squad, being a person who's it called popular, you know whatever, she is popular, Honey, you should own that. Okay, that's really bad. But Peyton has outlets that are hers like you. You played a character who was an artist who was really into music, like Peyton had an identity in a way that like, at least from the outside. You know, when I think about how it felt to play these girls. Then it felt like Brooke just didn't you know, Brooke was always trying to prove herself and Peyton had like this world that was hers that was so cool. Oh my god, Oh the angst um like the done correctly in this is the is the Nathan Haley arc in this You know you guys, wake up, You're freaking adorable. Just kissing with morning breath. We we did have fun with the morning breath, No regard, no reserve. But all the TV shows do that because you're on set and when you have to kiss, everyone's polite. So you eat an altoid and when you see it, you're like, but if they just woke up, they would smell like demons. On no show does anyone ever get up and brush their teeth before they kissed the person they're in bedroom? Right? Do you remember like waking up in the morning when you first started like sleeping over at somebody's house. I would wake up like an hour early and go put on mascara and brush my teeth and like sort things out so that it seemed like I was waking up tidy Timmy of you very tammy girl. I'm Southern that is some Virginia business, some like Southern Lady Eleganza. You just set your alarm, get it done, I did, Joy, what was your experience shooting that stuff? I'm trying to remember that. I think that was one of those where I looked at it and I was like, I don't really have a memory of being there. Um. I mean the thing I remember a little bit of being in Karen's cafe and stuff, but that stuff with them James in my room, I just don't remember a lot of that, the set of Hayley's room. Um, But I don't know. It's funny watching back and feeling like it's such they have such a mini adult. She's just such a mini adult. I can't get over it now. She's so mature with her mature kisses and her mature like way of handling situations and everything. I didn't head butt him like I did. You just you know you kissed him so softly. Joy, I'm still jealous. Those are my soap opera kisses. That's my that was my soap experience coming in. Do they give you a kissing class in soap opera school? Like? Is there? Um? I didn't have like a crash course No. My crash course was that I was seventeen and there was a guy who came in to play my love interest, and uh, he was just a lot older than me, and I just kind of learned fast or learned he did. Yeah, he really, Yeah, he taught me. Had a kiss really and not so many. I mean, you know it's not like listen to do this, but but there is this sort of you do learn a little bit about where to put your chin, where the girl's chin goes, the guy chin. You know, you sort of like gauge, start gauging where the camera is and what looks attractive. If you shove your faces up against each other, everybody gets a double chin. Um. You know, you want to try and make it look like it's like a French about the tongue, so you don't want to see a lot of time unless it's that kind of a show, which ours wasn't really. So yeah, you just like make all the same motions as a French kiss, but without the tongue, which is also polite because you know, you don't want to just shove your tongue down somebody's throat. I mean, if you're going to kiss with tongue it's usually talked about beforehand with the director. Everything sort of sort of sorted out. I had more than one surprise, did you guys? They they over the years there were people Brooke Davis had to kiss, and oh there were some you already know. Somebody bit me. I will never tell you who. The internet was speculating about it, and I'm not you guys, they don't, they don't know. But oh man, I actually saw some really hilarious guesses, which made me feel bad for some people. But they guys, that guy is really horrible, like that how Sam? No, But yeah, it's it is. It is a shock when someone just does that. I love though, you talking about the technicality of this joy because there is a question that as an actor you get so often, which is like, well, what was this like or this scene? And it's like, actually, the stuff we make look really romantic and sexy on camera is the least sexy because it's so technical. You gotta like get your face and then they're like, okay, turn your head one inch and you're like this way, they're like the other way, okay, Okay, raise your chain, okay, okay, that's exactly where we need you to to kiss and it's so choreographed and then it has to look natural, but it's the most unnatural thing, so awkward. Oh god, it's so awkward, you guys. That's why I liked working with my husband because they were like make out and it was like, I don't have to follow anyway. It a lot. This is going to be great, I highly Um. Well, speaking of James, this was great stuff for Nathan in this episode, he finally let Dan have it. I've been waiting for debt. Yeah. The whole episode kicks off with him trying to love bomb her, which is yeah, um, the flowers I got us the reservation. Would you explain love bombing for anyone that doesn't know really what that is? So certain personality types that are prone to bad behavior become very skilled at countering that bad behavior with over the top affection. So they could tell you the night before that like you're a horror and I hate your face, and then the next day they show up with a hotel reservation and flowers, and you are expected to understand that they were going through something and they really do love you. And so love bombing is like a big red flag. We've talked about red flags here before. It's a narcissistic tool too, because they that's how they get you to they devalue you. And friends can do it, lovers can, workers can get parents. Yeah, And so they build you up with the love bombing, so they make you feel this euphoric like, oh my god, everything's amazing. I'm amazing. They love me, they see me in this beautiful way, it's all going to be great. And then they put you on the pedestal and then they can rip the pedestal out from underneath you. You come crashing down. You feel horrible about yourself, you feel confused and lost in everything in the relationship. And then they come back with the flowers in the hotel all again and build you back up. And it's a really sick cycle. And it's always an excuse of I'm so sorry. It's my damage, or it's my emotions, or it's because of what happened to me with my mom, like whatever the excuse. You could also just be I forgive you, I forgive you for being a mess for so they're punishing you for being normal, and you know, and they could also it doesn't always have to be i'm sorry. It can be like I forgive you. Come on, let's make it better. You overreacted to what I said or what I did. It's it's fun watching deb in this moment because I have to imagine the love bombing was sexy at the beginning of their relationship. It's been a constant thing where they have this kind of you know, she's not in town all the time, so the hellos and the goodbyes are probably like fun and blurty. Um. But in this episode where she puts the boundary up and does not accept the love bombing and then tells him you need to go to therapy, like that's a big move in a relationship. She's not putting up with it. I will say, you know, we're all speaking about this topic from experience, and I think you know, I know, for me, at least in my younger years, being in you know, relationships that had that kind of you know, volatility that bordered on abusive behavior, I didn't know what was happening. You know. We've all like, like, we trade books and we talk about narcissism, and we're like, have you listened to this podcast. We've got resources now, and at that time we really didn't, and it was hard to understand the toxicity of that kind of behavior, of those types of courtships. And I think watching this now, I'm like, oh man, depth set such a good example. And this was in two thousand three. You guys like, she's so calm, yeah, putting her foot down, talking about therapy. Like now, we're talking about mental health all the time. But for a woman to stand up to a man who who is volatile and scary like Dan Scott was and say you're going to go to therapy or you're not going to see your kid like now, as a person who goes to therapy, I'm like, yeah, girl, I'll get it. Yeah. And she wasn't shouting. It was like totally just time setting my boundary. Here's what's going on, so super healthy. Um, can we move on to this arc of Luke this bad I keep calling him bad, bad Lucas now like bad Sandy. He's like he's he's really exploring this um this side of being a part of a community that is not the one that he's used to, kind of being suddenly fitting in with all the people that he was an outcast from for so long, and it's kind of having a weird effect on him. Well, it's weird. So when people talk about like the popular crowd, right, everything that we knew from John Hughs movies was bad behavior. You know, like we watched like Pretty and Pink and Blaine and all the rich kids. They're all just like awful. And then you watch sixteen Candles and all the rich kids, they're just like awful. And so our generation specifically kind of grew up watching those movies where it's like, oh, that's what popular people are like. And so now that Lucas has been accepted into this world, you know, like having a girl over into your room and rolling around and buying condoms out of the grocery store at least, go to a gas station where no one is, to the local organic co op to buy Title Creek, my classiest place. I need my organic coconut oil and my little chicks, and my thing is turning. So as soon as we were in that grocery store, I pulled my sweatshirt up around my face because I was like, oh, no, no, no, I know what the scene is because I was so embarrassed to then and I realized that as an adult human is silly that I'm still more. I'm still mortified by the high school that fifying. I don't know, I'd be like, I don't need people to see me buying condoms now, you know, It's just not like the thing I want anyone else to where they always locked up behind the plastic case, but like where the guy has to go get them. You're when you're at the checkout, let people steal those by the just just let out, just give them away for free. Let's just give them away. It was so uncomfortable to do the scene and like the second hand embarrassment that I had having to do it, And now that I feel, it's like I remember exactly how I felt, and I'm just still mortified. And I think, like we we've hit this weird point with Brooke where like we were saying, there's such good scenes and then the writers always make me her and to see me with like a really gross one liner, you're just like, oh, man, come on, Like no girl is going to say that, and why do we keep having to do it? And there's like four of them in this episode, Like yeah, I'm just gonna take the polaroid like cool, let's joke about kids doing porn, and like we didn't like they were just talking about feelings and like, baby, you're good. I'm good. You're my best friend. You're my best friend. Let's take naked pictures, you know, like, oh, come on. But it's like, I don't know, man, you guys said something that I loved where because clearly I was dying. I was on the inside of my shirt and you were like, well, at least we were promoting safe sex. And I was like, yeah, that's yep, there's a silver lining in my show. Peyton was feeling a lot of feelings in this episode. How how okay a how realistic is it that she would be? I mean, you talked a little bit about this in a previous podcast that we had about your high school best friend they wanted to trade or something they wanted to trade, So apparently it's not that crazy. But does this what did this scenario watching this back? Does this feel realistic to you? Well, I'll tell you so. I have sense memory of filming this episode because I personally was in a very weird space filming this episode. I had come onto the show, uh, shot the pilot, got engaged after we shot the pilot, and so when we came back to start in the show, I was engaged, and while we were shooting this episode, I had broken that off and was living by myself in the apartment across the street from Karen's cafe and like doing the exact same thing Peyton was doing. Payton so needy for Hayley's attention in this episode, it's like, please hang out with me, Please hang out me, Please hang out with me. I would go and fill my fridge with so much alcohol and food so that the crew would come over after work because I was just like, so I'm so broken right now, Like, someone, please hang out with me. Everything's weird. This job is very different than what I thought it was going to be, you know, like I was a miss um and so that's what I'm seeing in this episode. What I'm also seeing is that this was the episode where I p eight because I wanted to be What is a p A For anybody that does so. A p A is a production assistant and they work the A D Department. The Assistant director department is kind of the nervous system of the show, and so they are the ones that transmit information to all the different departments all day long, and it's a very high stressed department. Um, yeah, you easily can get a chip on your shoulder while you're working in that department because basically you're managing everybody else's bull all day long, and and the A D Department runs all of the scheduling. They're the people who set the call times. You know, when it's like you're gonna get picked up at five twelve am, that's because that's calculated because it's exactly eighteen minutes from the person's house to the set, and then they're going to get in hair and makeup, and then they have this song and it's it's so many moving parts and they're timed to the minute. So those are the people that are always trying to make sure we're staying on schedule. And and the p a s. You know, this team of production assistance. They are all the people on sets with walkie talkies and earpieces and they're helping make sure everyone is where they need to be there locking up traffic, they're they're giving cues to the background, they're they're they're really like, you know, running all the strings of the puppet that is the show. And I remember that day because we were doing that scenic title creek and I just wanted to die. And we came outside and I lost it Hill because you were locking up trafficking the parking lot. And the first time I walked out of Title Creek with Chad, we started doing the scene and I locked eyes with you, and I don't know if you remember this, but I just started laughing and I was like, I'm sorry, we gotta start over. I can't. I just because it was it was art imitating life. Because the reason I p ad was that I'd asked the A D Department if my brother could come down and be a p A. He was at school in New York. He was miserable. I was alone. I was just like, I just need a blankie. I need like a cozy thing. My little brother will work. And they were like, we're not going to hire him, and I was like, no, I swear to you. The Burton work ethic is like, you know, being like Burton's out work. Anybody please hire my brother. I'll work for free as a p A if you'll just give him a chance. So I had like bartered this deal with the A D Department. So I'm locking up traffic and here I see Lucas and Brook. You know, Sophie and Chad like working and having fun and like doing all this stuff, and I'm on the outside with a walkie talkie getting screamed at by this woman that's like, get out of my neighborhood, you know, Like it was I very much felt like an outsider. Um. I I was struggling so hard, and yeah, so me being like joy Haley, will you hang out with me? Please? Somebody please just with me? It really came through. I Mean, that's one of the things I love about acting is that we can use our emotions. You can use whatever you're going through. Um. So that's good that you had that outlet, I guess. And that kills me Hill because you the similarity of like Peyton's toughness and like your your toughness. I'm always fine, so like I'm good, cool, and and like the tenderness that exists between all of us and the things we share. Like to think of you struggling then that that shatters me because you were so like you were like running the social scene and doing it and you just seemed great and I'm like, oh, no, you needed a hug. We would have come, we would have hugged you. We would have come over, please hug. The whole side was that I got to come in on Brian Greenberg's day. You got where he was doing all this stuff with Lucas and big episode for BG and for and for Jake. I mean, let's talk about Jake. What a babe. I mean, you imagine when you were in high school, you had a guy in your high school who played basketball, who was that hot, and who was doing the right thing and being a single dad and just you know, trying to trying to just do the right thing. And then he also sings. He has a guitar and he comes to open like night and you're like, it's so romantic and and the casual but like very vulnerable way that he just presents his daughter to everyone, like its air out. It took the pressure. It was so good, and the whole room was just like her. It's such a tribute to him as an actor. How come you when b Ge never did a duet? You two should have done a dudet, did you? I don't know, because not long after this part of the season, when we all really started to learn that he could sing, Remember he booked that Clooney show and he just the project green light thing, right. Yeah, So I feel like I feel like we were I feel like we were all robbed. We were robbed. He picked Clooney, robbed he picked Clooney, and the fans were robbed of a duet. It's not over yet. If you could duet a song with Greenberg, what would you do at Islands in the streaming Islands in the streams in the stream What else could it possibly be? He was such an Elliott Smith fan, remember he was always singing those Elliott Smith songs. And I don't know, I would definitely do something that's sort of in that Nick Drake vibe, right, Yeah, something good and I loved to before, Like if we rewind to the beginning of the episode when Jake's all tired and the way Brian delivers that line, you know, because Lucas comes in and it's like, oh, you didn't get any sleep, Like who's the girl? And he's like you don't know her? And all of us that those moments are so fun as an audience member when you know something the actors don't know because you go, oh, he means the baby, and you get all it just feels good. Yeah, I mean that was crazy to me. The whole thing, like a boy has a baby, because where I grew up, there were tons of chicks with babies. But then there's also like a boy that has to have participated in that, and it never clicks, you know, it's always like, oh, she's a teen mom, and so to depict a teen dad was really different. I did too. I thought it was so cool. Yeah, they really got that, right would she do? Did we ever understand like what what the mom did, wasn't it? Emmanuel Voggier? She came back, right, she comes in? I know she comes in. I guess my memory is bad. I don't remember what her baggage was. That she just didn't want to be a parent, or that was like a druggie or something. No, I think she just didn't want to I can't remember. I don't remember. We're going to find out it's coming. Baby. Jenny just graduated high school. I am friends with her and her mom on Facebook. Her graduation photos are posted. And so it's crazy when you look at a baby and you can absolutely see the adult that they've become like, because her face is you know, that's her face, and she's so cute and she has turned into such an accomplished, responsible, beautiful young woman Grace hal Come. She comes to a lot of our conventions, and it's fun to have watched this little person grow up. I want to know where that polaroid is Joy the polaroid, Yes, me, Hilary and Grace. I'm like, who has that? In? What archive? Does that polaroid live? And how do we get? I want it? That would be so fun to have that. You know that they're somewhere and there's all those polaroids from all of our makeup and hair and words, but they probably threw those out. Actually, I don't know. Guys. People have brought in our old wardrobe polaroids for us to sign at conventions and I'm like, how did you get that? Is so disconcerted. That makes me so uncomfortable. I will say the polaroids I do like, though, are the ones we took in this episode. And it feels very important to call out the fact that an episode ten of One Tree Hill, Brooke and Peyton invent the selfie. Literally like we are like, we just that's what we're doing. Listen, I'm gonna take credit for everything. We can take credit. We were the first people to do it, but we definitely were the cutest. We were real cute. Yeah, super cute. We took you guys took a few of those. I wish the polaroid had stuck around and become like more of a thing in the Yeah, I still have polaroid cameras. When you hear that people have polaroid cameras now though, it still just makes me think they're doing it to take naked pictures. Really do myself, because you don't because it doesn't go on the cloud, right, have to have it printed. I just love film. I love film. I love the flash, the moment. You guys, I'm such a nerd, Like you know, photography is so it's like a language. Yeah, it's like a love language. In my family. I'm like the nerd who's trolling eBay to collect old polaroid cameras, Like I have like a whole storage bin up above my washing machine just of like all these weird old cameras that I've bought over the years, What are you going to do with them? I mean, I use them. But the thing that's really annoying I have to say is that because film in general has gotten to be like retro and whatever. Now it's like a hundred bucks to get a ten pack of polaroid film for one of the polaroids I have that's from the sixties. And I'm like, this feels ridiculous. I don't even know if that's going to be a good photo. What if I blinked? It's ten dollars of blink, Like, get out of here. That's the charm of it. Back then, you know you got you got the one photo. By the seaside of whoever happened to have their eyes open, We've seen a lot of like that picture of Brook Peyton and baby Jenny. We see a lot in like fan art um and at conventions and stuff. And it's so nice to rewatch the episode know that Haley took that picture because I've forgotten that Tidney too, And the friendship between the girls is on display in this episode, and a really really, it really is. In fact, I noticed that this to me, this was the first time. Maybe I'm wrong, but it was the first time I noticed Peyton and Haley hanging out without a reason the walk and talk, so it was already the flyers already been made. There was no reason for for us to find each other except that we then I was just like, Okay, well, I guess we like each other now, so we'll just kind of keep walking and talking and hanging out. And it felt like the first time we we solidified that, Okay, there's an actual friendship here. It's not just it's thrown together in a car because we have to be or crossing paths because of this whole rectangle of people that were around. You know, it's like you and me really choosing to spend time together. I liked that, and it made Peyton feel important that Hailey like asked her to help. That is always I find like the quickest way to make a friend is to like ask somebody for their skill set, because you're respecting what they're good at and you're honoring that and you're including them. You're letting them know, like you're the best at this. That's why I picked you, you know. Um, So it's a yeah, that's a good life. Heck, do that when you want to make friends with someone. It's also so nice to see all of these people really starting to see each other, Like Peyton and Haley are really seeing each other. Um, we're seeing Nathan, Nathan and Lucas are beginning to see each other, Like when Lucas says to Nathan at the cafe, like, come play with us at the river Court tonight, and Nathan says why, and he's like, because it's fun remember, like for the boys for him to see that his you know, estranged half brother is really hurting because of the pressure put on the fun thing. I even like, I have to say, it's so funny. We played these people for so long that they like they feel kind of like us or like our friends. And when when Haley is like being judgmental of Brooke in the beginning, I was like, that hurts my feelings. I love is that there for whatever reason in this development, like Haley and Brooke are are kind of the last to see each other, you know. And I actually thought it was really cool because it was such a thing Hill when you were mentioned and like John Hughes movies, whatever, it was such a thing to like judge the popular girl, or like judge girls for being quote unquote like easy or sexual or whatever. And Haley does it to Brooke and Lucas defends her and it's like it's because I like her. He's like, she's cool, she's smart, she makes me laugh, like stop, give her a chance, and it's good. It's really good, and like I liked that. She then kind of fessed up to Peyton like yeah, I haven't been doing it and I should. And and then like when you're so nice at the end and you offer to take the polaroid of us with the baby, I was like, oh man, these people are making space for each other dispite their predispositions, and that's that's really cool. And you even, you know, as as Haley with Peyton, you call out your predisposition, You're like, I take back everything I said about Like it's I don't know. I find it to be really beautiful that we mod old like honesty about judgment, but also the potential to make room for your opinion to change. Yeah, that's like your opinion can and maybe should change about people on a regular basis, because we're all different people than we were five minutes ago. Um, and that's true for fictional characters as well. Um, me the grumpy girl that likes to make jokes instead of feel feelings. I cried watching the river Court scene. That affected me. I don't it's just like looking at like the shiny happy thing George snuck in here to watch it too. Um, and we have one of our favorite members of our river Court family joining us that we're gonna take a little break. Here we go. Hey everybody, I'm Bethany joy Lens, I'm Hillary Burton more again, and I'm Sophia Bush and we have something very exciting to invite you to. What are y'all doing on the three September is September? It's um um um, it's um. Oh yeah, it's o th h Day, on our national holiday. We've just claimed it. That's right, it's our day. Put it on your calendar to us. Not only is it a live event with your drama queens, but we have a very special guest, Hillary. Tell everybody what they won, y'all hold the phone. Gavin de Gras is joining us for official o th h Day. I can't wait, and he's going to serenade us. So go get your tickets Looped live dot com. The man who gave us I don't want to be with your three queens September twenty three, one Tree Hill Day, Looped live dot com. See you there. Who do you love to party with more than any other dude on the show? Um Antoine Tanner. We got him. Okay, friends, we have Antoine Tanner. He's an American actor. He is best known for his recurring role as Michael on the up n sitcom Moesha and It's Been Off the Parkers. He had a starring role in the film Coach Carter. He's been an NYPD Blue Sister Sister and c s I and he is our friend. Antoine Tanna skills was good. Look at those malls. Hey, okay, Hi talk about a tank top party? Yeah, what's going on? Muscles? Are you wearing a juicy suit? I hope so I just got on shorts that that was my wardrobe. In one of the scenes, Twine, we were like, oh, there's a tank top in a juicy suit. So good to see your face. How you doing. I'm good. I'm proud of y'all. Man. You're killing the gang. That's what I'm talking about. We're having Wait, So, did you ever go to any of the basketball games before that? Like, did you go sit in the stand? You never had to work in eighteen hours Sunday. I didn't have to do none of those. I was just yeah, we were still on the river court. I would I would fly in California. Come shoot my damn um, maybe one thing on the stage in Lucas House or you know what I'm saying, and then or at it was all River Court. That go back, Antoine, talk to us about what you were really like in high school. What were you doing? I was. I think I was a lot like skills on everything because I was a basketball star. I was a basketball star in my school. I was the class clown. You do say I was a class clown? Well not my like my freshman and sophomore year, we was. I was in the basketball start in because we had like stars at my school. Like that was real good. But when I came to California and I went to school out here, yeah, I was like big man on campus far as basketball was concerned. So and then I got girls because it was like a lot of different racists and like that, so it was cool. How did you tell us what the audition process was like for you getting the part on One Tree Hill as a basketball player? Well, I had already knew Schwan and Brian and Mike. I had already knew them. I used to play ball with Um and I did. Actually I worked with Brian and Mike prior, we did a show called UH after school special called UM I think it was called four Points with Shack Um and Cheryl Miller and UH and Robert Richard Robert Rochard. That was in Coach Carter, so we all he played He played interest on the show, and I was like a bully basketball kid. That was a bully, you know what I'm saying. We bullied him and you know what's and then all of a sudden he got good. So I worked with Brian on that. And then I also had did a pilot with Brian and Mike called was There Slam? So it was just supposed to be a series and it didn't get up. So like they already knew who I was. They already knew you know what I'm saying, They already knew my work. Did it like, Hey, come play with us on this show. No. I went to an audition, but when I got in the room, we didn't talk, and we didn't audition like I you just talked. I studied this stuff. And then I walked in and I was like, Oh, what's up, y'all, What's what's happening? We you know, say the vole everybody. I just was like you know, and we just got to talking about basketball because at the time we was playing in the NBA Entertainment League had just like started. It was getting like it was getting big, and I was like averaging like m VP that year. So that when I came in, they just was talking about so, who y'all playing next week? And I was like, oh, we got so and so, and you know, they was like, oh damn, that's what's up. And it was like, Okay, listen, we're gonna go to North Carolina and shoot the show. It's a pilot. We're gonna be out there for about a week and it's gonna be happening this week. Uh that it was like April something when we shot. I'll never forget it was like right around my birthday. And uh, I told him myself, well, I can't go this week. You'all gonna have to like figure it out. Because I was doing the show with Um Clarence Win the third Rest in Peace UM called The Skin. It was on it was on CBS and remember that, Yeah, I was doing I did four episodes on that with Clarence Will was the third. So he um and they was like, don't worry about it. We're working out, and I was like all right, cool. So they was like I get out of here. We got an audition some people. I was like, all I bet so I left like that was what I okay. So we shot the pilot and Anton was like like we were just like talking because I was still going back and forth the MTV and Anton would talk and be like, oh, I know Brandy, I know so and so, I know so and so I know so and so. And I was like, who is this dude that knows everybody? And then sure I get back up to New York and everyone's like, oh yeah, Anton, like yeah, of course we all know him. I was just like, what where have I been? Yeah? You were like the most connected dude on the planet. You'd worked with everybody works. I was, you know what. It was crazy because I never wanted to be an actor or nothing. I didn't take no classes, I didn't study, I didn't I just was playing basketball. I got noticed playing basket. I was doing music first, and then I was like, well, I just really want to be on the soundtrack. So my like hole motivation to be in like I could get on the soundtrack and then so sing for us right now? Oh no, I can't sing. All right, That's what I do. I write. You know what I'm saying. But I could write it. It's crazy, it's so weird. I could write it. But I just I never was a performer. I was a performer when I was rapping, like R and B and stuff like that. It's easy for me to write that. I don't know why you love Phil Collins. That's what I remember about the pilot, is you listening to Phil Collins. I love that you did have the best taste in music. You could always count on Antoine for a good soundtrack. I just did karaoke and while it's North Carolina last weekend for the Hope for the Warriors Foundation, and the girl who runs it, she was like, you need to participate and I was like, what you want me to do? She's like, I'm gonna do a song with you. I was like, okay, She's like, what do you want to listen to some rap stuff? I was like, nah, Phil Collins. She was like Phil Collins. So I did Phil College. They had a ball out there that I was in the woods last week. I posted that on Instagram. Was it when the last time you were back in North Carolina like a convention. Yeah, it was last week. I went, Um, well, I flew into Womanton. But you know, while it's just like right outside of like Burgo and Jacksonville, like forty minutes Womanton. So I was out there. I went to hung Out, Me and my boy can't We went to hung Out that night, just went to downtown. We went to Real Cafe, went to Level five for you real quick and just you know, pass some wings and then we went up to level five, had a couple of shots and then we went and later scene. Now is it the same as it was when we were there. Yes, it was a Saturday night and it was cracking. Yeah. Yeah, it was popping. Yeah. They don't mask, They just out they don't care. Oh my god, oh yeah yeah yeo. Um okay, I want to know what your favorite Antoine One Tree Hill storyline was that you got to do. Oh. I liked it. I liked it everything. My favorite one was me and Nanny did. What's so funny is that she said the same thing is. I think what it was was I was I'm more like, I'm more confident, you know what I'm saying around women? But she like she was the first person that made me feel vulnerable the first person. So it was like, uh, she's so hot. Yeah. She would keep you on your toes. So it was kind of like I could never relax with her. I always had the big show, much was on point. She had the most lovely things to say about you. I mean, she was talking about the scene where you guys were in the pool together right after she had just given birth to her daughter, and you know, she was topless, and you were just so sweet to her and like always really protective, and she just she said that she I mean, girls, if you remember any of this stuff too, I just remember Barb saying that she had such a great time working with you and felt so safe with you and had so much fun, Like you guys just got to play. Oh yeah, she played a lot. She had me like she had me so like nervous. The fun part of doing scenes with you, Antoine is that I don't even know if you read the script, because you just say what you need to say in the scene to move it forward. And it's fun to play. It's fun to just like make stuff up. Do you read the scripts? I don't read the whole scripts, just your person. I just read my scene and see what's happening. That's that's it, because the way I study is different Sam. When I work with Sam Jackson long time ago, I did one seven with him and he gave me like a bunch of game. Like you used to say, forget the lines noticing and go with your instinct. Like he would always say that, and I'd be like, what do you mean, like you have to read it? He said, you don't need to read everybody's stuff. You wasn't there for their stuff. You only there for your stuff. I like, oh, okay, that makes sense. That That's what made me stop like really reading the scripts. And I was just like okay, but it kind of clicked in what he was saying. I didn't. I didn't get it at first, but then I was like, oh well, let me see. So what I would do. He would be like, read it, just read the same real quick and leave it alone. Just read it one time and leave it alone. And I'd be like all right, cool. So I would do it like two days before I even film, So I would read it, be in the showering, you know something you're in the showering, just think did it just go through your head? Like, so then when I got to say it was like, this is how I was gonna say it already, because this is I'm just going over it in my head just paraphrasing it, and the words just kind of came. So if I needed to find tune something that could be like, oh that meant this, okay, well let me go back and say that. But it was easy to put it in. That was always a cool thing to watch too, because like we we all got I mean watched like hawks, like we had to be word perfect. The scripty revisor was always on us. It was like the note from l A, like they have to say exactly what's on the age, and you'd come to set and everyone was like, oh, the rules don't apply to Antoine. We were all so in, all of you. We were like, how did he get that? How do we get that? They and you you always made it better, Like whatever they put on the page for skills, you'd be like, no, I get the point, but I'm gonna do it like this. But it was fun to play with because as an actor, I mean of acting is listening, so if you're it felt like I got to really be in the moment with you because I didn't know what to expect exactly, So it was my job to listen to you and then I could respond. And usually what was on the page was a suitable response for whatever it was that you were saying, and sometimes it wasn't. And then we would just play and you know, go go on the fly. But the thing is they can't write it. They try to do. It's hard for him to write. Then, so it's like and and then you know how it is like like you can't you can't play a character like this because you may have you may have fend those people that actually talked like that. You see what I'm saying, So you got to go back to the hood because I still go to Compton, I still go to South Central on Box. And then they'd be like, man, you man, you know, we don't talk like that. You're dumbing us down. You're making us look stupid, You're making us look you see what I'm saying, because that's not how it goes over there. So you know what I'm saying, So you have to take that into account, like I can't be over here, you know, disrespecting doctors and I'm saying certain words and doctors are looking at me, going what, yeah, man, I want to know what all of your friends thought when you joined onto this show about white kids kissing and crying. Antoine, you know what, they don't get that white money because oh did anyone give you? Give you for being on like a teen drama because you, I mean, you're a sports guy. You know you've also played a teenager forever because for our Urgeless Yeah, I played I placed. I told my daughter, I said up seventeen for seventeen years, and she was like, has she seen it? Have your kids seen the show? I don't think they watch it. I mean my kids are like totally not like industry kids at all. Like, yeah, the oldest so he just he got in his last year and um, what is it? Aerospace engineering something? And then the young one he's getting ready to go to college when he took this year off. We've been working with me. My other daughter she's still in school, and then the other one is doing something in makeup. So she's the only one that's kind of close because she want to do something, but she's still in school for that right now. So they was really just like not industry kids. I remember a few times you'll want to go to the premiere. No, I'm about to go to some You don't want to go to the premiere. That's why, like I always bought like my sister in law, mom, you know, I bought other people because they never wanted to go, which was crazy to be had like a kid old enough to come and like hang out. We were all such dufaces that you were dead. They all came, what three of them came that one time when we came when we did the Racer. Yeah, that they all came in. That's when he was still in all the snacks. I also remember, Twine, when you and I first started to become friends in the beginning. Uh. And there was that night we were all still living at the Riverview Sweets because like we hadn't found apartments yet or anything, and the fire alarm went off at like three in the morning. We had to plod downstairs, and your little baby just crawled up in my lap and I was like, Hi, let's yes, you can stay here, And you looked at me and you were like, he's smart, he knows, he's cute. It's working. He's almost twenty one now. Oh my god, oh my gosh, he's the baby. That's crazy part. Now he's my working out we go. He hit me up a couple of weeks ago. I was like, Dad, you look good. You've been working out. I see you lost your weight. Um can I come with you and go to your trainer? I was like, all right, that's a compliment. So he go with me for the last couple of weeks. So I want to ask a question that we kind of all get hit with all the time from fans and interviews and stuff, which is where do you think Skills would be ten years later? Like where is he now? I think Skills would have been coaching. I really believe he would have been coaching because you know, they did a lot of stuff that he did for the with the kids, you know you So I think Skills would be like, if not the head coach, at least the assistant coach at at Tree Hill High. Right. Yeah, I could see him as head coach for sure, like a gym teacher, but you know, a gym teacher, but slash basketball coach. I could see him. Yeah. You know, he was a mentor in so many ways and had really had his really had together. I feel like, well he became like Jamie's babysitter. You know, like any time there was kids stuff, they put you on the case. Antoine. They were like, we know who can handle this? Yeah, And the kids was so much easier than working with the girls. It was because see, y'all got to get hair and make up, and I was like, where are you about to go with this? Every every time they cut to make up, people in your face. They're making sure your hair straight. The kids, they just got dressed one time. They don't care to eat cheeseburgers, they got skateboards, didn't care about none of that. So we would get and then they only had to work like five hours. So I was like, my days short. To figure it out. We came back from hiatus one year. I don't know if it was season four or season five, but I got the memo, maybe it's even season two. I got the memo that they were hooking Peyton and Skills up. Do you remember that? What happened? This is what happened. What happened? I did not hear this. We had went out, We went out and we went back to Swan's place when they was on Market Street. It was staying at that condor upstairs. So he went back there. So he started asking me questions like, well, what do you think? I said, men, why y'all don't never give skills no druma like hook him up with a girl like one of the main girls that you know what I'm saying, said y'all, well, I don't know, And I was like, no, listen, I said, if you, I said, that's all kind of girl cold, y'all breaking. And so the best friend get the date the other one she's still in love with, and that y'all cool with that? Like okay, that's a girl code like y'all, y'all all that. So why not hook skills up with one of them? Since y'all all over the place. I said, Peyton would be really good, you know, yeah, you could give us some type of you know what I'm saying, some type of yeah, because I don't have nothing. I'm just I just come in say some funny. Then you don't see me, know what I'm saying. I said, that was it. Pet needed somebody that was funny. Pet never got to kiss anybody funny. I didn't get the only kids who who did that kiss just I kiss Lauren Lauren and and and that's it. But like Lee kissed everybody, did kiss everybody everybody even we did we Ever, we should take a pole. Who which character on our show kissed the most people? That's a fan pole. I think it was a pole. Somebody do the math. I feel like it was probably Broke, But oh man, if mouth beats broke, I'll be thrilled. Would be great. You might be right, but I think it was I think it was Lee because he kissed Brooke yess my girl. He kissed Lauren, he kissed Rachel, he kissed everybody he had. Yeah, what was your what was your favorite thing about the experience, the entire ones real experience, Like as you look back on that chapter in your life, like, what was your favorite thing of all of it? You know, it's crazy because I was when I said, I was just in Woman Toil last last week, and I like to look around and I like, when I'm near, I feel like I gotta get up and go to work. Like I don't know why, I just feel like I gotta get up. We gotta go to screen them. Like I was like, oh, we're not working on the show, no more like down here. But the love is still crazy. But my biggest thing was I met a whole family, you know what I'm saying that that was like huge for me because I hated it in North Carolina when I first went, I used to take my vide it was so boring because you remember everything used to close at like five o'clock. Yeah. I didn't drink, I didn't smoke, I didn't do none of that, you know what I'm saying. So it was like, I don't dance, I don't know nobody. I'm just in this hotel room. But that when women Tony in or river View and I'm just chilling like it was nothing to do then to they came and picked you up and work, so as you look forward to going to work when you got there, but as soon as it was time for me to come home, I was like, let's go. I'm out of him and going back there. Like plus I had smart kids at the time too, So but yeah, what was the training point for you? When did you start to feel like it was a on base season? Like five like five six? Yees? About like five six is when I like, because I remember I didn't signed until season four. I think it was season four when I Yeah, because the recurring but I was still working a lot though, you know, like they couldn't let me just you know, because when I first started, I was doing I had right after we did one Tree here, I when they did Never Die Along, right we they Never Die Along. I think that was like oh four. Then we got to pick up, so then everybody started working on that. But then I had then Coach Carter came around. Even though that was still the same people there was like, we can't do it because then we'll have to shoot you out and then we got to bring you back to l A. So we'll just let you go do the movie. Then after the movie, then we'll bring skills. You know. That's when they came up with the whole we'll bring we make a run at the state championship and stuff like that. Was all right, cool, lets let's do it. Because but then Womanton actually started growing a little bit by then, so I was like, okay, I could get I could get used to this a little big. It did go from like all the antique stores, remember it was like yeah, but then like downtown all of a sudden was like bars and tattoo parlors. Then it became like fun. Yeah, it was just dead. It was so dead. I should just play video games all day. I didn't do nothing, which is so strange for a college town. I always thought it should have been. There should have been more of a nightlife. I mean, it's so glad that when we showed up there that started. But like Dawson's was there before us, there were lots of other projects there. I don't know why it didn't. It was just still dead. I remember I tried to rent a car and I had to go up there and it was closed at like five o'clock. It was nothing. No more stores after that. On market it was Yeah, it was like fields and farms and what are you working on now? I just did this show called The Hole. H o e um me happened everything. It's actually on my page, the trailer that I had posted with a friend of mine, Miko grim She um cool. She I met her. I've been doing Miko since high school. We played ball together, like she played at w n b A all like play ball with her and she ended up marrying Um Brent Rhymes and the when he played for the Falcons, and she became a sports agent stuff like that. You know what I'm saying. So she made her own money and so she was like, bro, I got a project. I want you to come help me do it and do it up. And we did it. It It was a short of it just once some awards somewhere, but she's shopping it right now. They get picked up. But I also did another I did another spot called um. I did another joint called What's the Name of the St Bodie sat Bodi's Mad World. It's a true story, is supposed to be like a mini series. Um, that's gonna be crazy my character, so I'm like the Dan Scott evil and the fun that's gonna be really fun. Yeah. And the little girl, the little girl that that's in the show with me, that plays my daughter, Oh my god, she's incredible, Like she's gonna blow up. I posted her. I was like, like, she's a newbie, but she has it, like she has. You posted this on Instagram so we can repost it. Yeah, I posted it. I just posted the picture of her. But I'm waiting on them just gonna be the trailer. You have to let us be your cheerleaders. Yeah, I got you. I posted. I'm definitely gonna post it. I just hadn't posted it because they hadn't really putting that. Now you know like that yet, but it's good time. We're your girls so good. And then I'm gonna shoot that movie I was telling you about the Leash and remember, so finally it's so good. It's been like eleven years and finally it's like we got the money to do it. So it's like, let's do it. You know what I'm saying, like, we love you. It's so good to see you. I'm so glad that you came. Yeah, will you come back on the show. Please let me come plain with us. What episode do you want to come back for? What's the episode? When you're like, DIBs, that one's mine, let me see. Um, it was so many good ones. Though, it was so many good ones. I can't like it because me, I never read the script for the school, so I never forget me. And Lee was on set and it was like, um, yeah, tomorrow we gotta go. We gotta go to the cemetery to film the funeral scene. I was like, somebody died. It was like yeah. I was like, oh my bad. I didn't read that. So I was like, man, I said, this is gonna be a good episode. I need to read this. Then I never read it. I watched it because at the time when when when we first started, I knew we was gonna last. I kept saying it. Everybody else was like Twine, you're tripping. You're tripping like it's not gonna And I said, look, I'm gonna tell you like this. We got some pretty white boys and some pretty white girls, and y'all keep us in the damn tabloids. So we stand in the tabloids this show from the back. I said, it don't need an audition for nothing. I'm just gonna take mine. It was like Twine, they just merged the w B with this. They canceled all of these shows. I said, but this one ain't no. We're you did you always had confidence. We need to have you and Barbara on the same episode. Hell yeah, I want to see you get get a little bashful around Barbara. Yeah, it's coming always. I love her. She is so sweet, are so big and pretty and grown and know can you believe? Yeah? I remember they was in um in Paris with us when we did that convention over there. Oh my god, Oh yeah, me and me and Olivia and we had so much fun. If you're ever to go out in Paris with someone. It's Antoine. The time is taking me out. He also taught me what uber was because I didn't know how to get home in Paris, and Antoine's like, I will teach you to go out because you're m Antoine. We've got to wrap up, but I love you and I'm excited that you're going to come back, and you've always it can such good care of us anytime something's going on in our life. You are the person the calls and checks in, and I can't tell you how important that is. We love you, know you already know. Wait before he goes, should we spin the wheel? I would love to have a question. Put we do? We do a most likely to like in the yearbook every week, but we have this fun little thing that spins it and it picks the most likely too for us get ready for so it picks at random. We need your health care? Oh, who's most likely to write a best selling book? Well, I mean we have Lucas and we have Hillary like in real life and Fiship. Oh my god, listen. So I've gotten some bad reviews for my book, and of course I read them right, and every single bad review is to talk about once we hill at all that's that they're mad about. Wow, bitch, please, we'll write a whole book about that. It'll be great. You can't please everybody. I say that. I used to do my parties but at the convention and I still have people mad. So it's like, that's so funny. Somebody is always mad about something, always mad about stuff. That you can't please everybody. So I just said, you know what it is. What it is like, I don't give a damn. When the world is safe again and you throw your epic party at the next convention, what is the karaoke song that you're going to sing? Antoine in the air tonight, phil Colin, I might do We Wait and we wanted because I like that one. I like we Waiting, We wonder that's a good all right, we're counting the days ya vaccinated? Were your masks? Can't wait? You love you so much? Will? She upstairs laying down. She had appointment early this morning, so she in the bed. I'm finishing all right, hugged for us, for us, You love you. Antoine's doing this movie in November, and he sent me the script to just like take a look at because it's producers that I've worked with before. It is so him. It's like an awesome thriller movie. He's the lead of it, just like you read it and you know that it is just the thing that was made for him. And so it's gonna be so good. That makes me so happy, so good in it, And so I love seeing him like so fit because it's like actionly. So y'all keep your ass peeled. Boyfriend's gonna be an action hero. I love that. Hey, what's what's next week's episode? Anybody now what happens in eleven? What are we looking forward to? Let's see? Episode eleven is called The Living Years, and mean we have Dan and Deb now they've got to go to therapy or she's kicking them out. Um, Basketball's on pause. Peyton starting something up with Jake. It seems like there was a lot of chemistry there. Well, it says here in this description Peyton's dad comes home number one. There were two dads. Actually there were three dads, but this is dad number one. Thank you all so much for joining us for another great episode. This one. This one was really really fun. You know, the three of us got a little weepy when we watched that sort of epic moment going from Gavin at Karen's cafe to the boys on the River Court and all of us and you know, our moment on the Comet, and I don't know we we were all talking while we were watching it about how if there's a night that we could go back to and just relish in again, at least so far in these first ten episodes, that that would one night to like bought back into the river, to the River Court, and I would have stolen she felt. I want to just taken up and put I'm in a scrap book. Felt so good to see everybody in the same place, and I remember us all having so much fun that night, and you know, just the weather and everybody having a ball, and the lights were bright, and the whole cast was there, and it felt like we were really doing something special and exciting. And I really felt like I was a part of something special, and and I was, we were, you know, But that night it's for some reason that the magic was alive. So thanks for joining us for that special part of the episode for for us, and thanks for keeping the magic alive for us all these years. Guys, don't forget you're the reason we're here, Go Ravens. Hey, thanks for listening. Don't forget to leave us a review. You can also follow us on Instagram at Drama Queens O t H. Or email us at Drama Queens at I heart radio dot com. See you next time. Were all about that high school drama? Girl Drama Girl, all about them high school queens. 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