Columbus Dispatch opinion and engagement editor Amelia Robinson speaks with WOSU "All Sides" host Ann Fisher on the latest episode of the “Then What Happened?” podcast. During this edition we talk about making the switch from print to radio journalism, being shipped all over the place, and Jimmy Carter.

Next Ann shares the bad habit and good skills that led her to a life as a reporter, discuss why listening is so important, democracy dangling on the edge of a cliff and hear about Ann’s next adventures in her upcoming retirement.