SEASON 3 EPISODE 113: COUNTDOWN WITH KEITH OLBERMANN
A-Block (SPECIAL COMMENT): The reason Trump’s Team of Idiot Rivals sent each other their war plans on Signal wasn't to keep them secret from the Senate, or from future investigations it was to keep them secret from TRUMP.
They no longer TRUST Trump.
They no longer think Trump UNDERSTANDS what’s going on.
There WAS a work-around – AROUND TRUMP. They are CUTTING TRUMP OUT.
I'm NOT defending any of these sloppy, stupid, dangerous, morons. But behind their blithering incompetence is the WHY. WHY did they conduct this Signal Chat? Because they have established at least one Ghost Mechanism to allow Trump’s cabinet to try to get something done without him destroying the world (yet) and if THAT’S the case the POINT of this is: you have a president whose own people think he is now a complete FEEB, that he can not function, and cannot be trusted not to do something at least disastrously stupid, IF that thing requires him to do anything more than blather for 40 minutes and morph slowly into Gloria Swanson as Norma Desmond in Sunset Boulevard.
We need a whole new president, like, later today. This guy’s nuts.
Also, they can all be charged with espionage under 18 U-S Code 793 “Gathering, transmitting or LOSING defense information."And a German newspaper found live mobile numbers and email addresses for Waltz and Gabbard and Hegseth. I’ll circle back to that. Also Waltz and Gabbard and Hegseth are three of the biggest idiots in this nation’s history.
And I’m going to go further out on a limb and answer the MOST intriguing, MOST unaddressed question of this entire mess: why in the hell would the name of the editor of The Atlantic pop up automatically in the auto-composition in the phone of National Security Adviser Mike Waltz? Huh? Is MY name in there too? How about Jasmine Crockett? Goldberg was in Waltz's phone because Waltz put him there, and Waltz is denying it because Trump will fire him if he believes that's true.
The other issues here are all valid and intriguing and as a story, boy did they hit the cloud just right and we got 77 inches of snow, this story has TWICE as much engagement world wide as any other news story this year. But the NEWS here is, this is NOT a Trump plan to keep reality from America. THIS is an AMERICAN plan to keep reality… from TRUMP.
B-Block (31:30) POSTSCRIPTS TO THE NEWS: American governments mishandle information as if that's what they were hired. It's been true since the Confederacy dropped Robert E. Lee's battle plans on the ground in Maryland in 1862. It was true when the Bush Administration spent a day unable to send me an email, and instead wound up revealing to me all the people inside NBC News that Bush could count on to give him favorable coverage.
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Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. The reason Trump's team of idiot rivals messaged each other their war plans on might as well have been AOL Instant Messenger or Yahoo Pager or I Kremlin. The reason wasn't to keep these communications secret from the Senate or from future investigations or from the Democrats. It was to keep them secret from Trump. They no longer trust Trump, they no longer think Trump understands what's going on. There was a work around around Trump. They are cutting Trump out. That is the only and the inescapable conclusion to all this. Also, they can all be charged with espionage under eighteen US Code seventy nine to three gathering, transmitting or losing defense information Paragraph F. I'll circle back to this, And if you miss this, a German newspaper found live mobile numbers and email addresses for Waltz and Gabbard and Hegseth. I'll circle back to that. Also, Waltz and Gabbert and Hegseth are three of the biggest idiots in the history of this country, but paramount and completely ignored so far near as I can tell. The real lesson of the Yeah man, it's Yemen Emoji party is they are cutting Trump out. Either he is as exactly bonkers as we've all thought he was getting, or they've all decided the only part of the job he's putting any effort into anymore is the blah blah blah speech part. And they are convening on signal, which might as well be an app you get free with the purchase of a lot of porn, because there is no chance Trump has any idea how it works, just as when asked Monday, he had no idea what the messaging scandal was, and he had no idea who Jeffrey Goldberg was, and he could barely remember what the Atlantic was long enough to take a really low energy dig at its circulation numbers. Trump is going potty, and his cabinet knows it. And before he tells them to go blow up Yemen, they are finding a place to meet without him to actually discuss blowing up Yemen. And I might add, nearly everybody on these texts that we've seen except Hegseth discussed it kind of rationally, and I mean even Vance made sense until he started to talk jinguist isolationist nonsense with hegg Seth. I mean, read those texts. The bully boy in eyeliner, that's vance in public, threatening and swearing and blustering. The guy in the text seems to think about things. And I'm going to go out further on a limb and answer the most intriguing, most unaddressed question of this entire mess. Why in the hell would the name of the editor of The Atlantic pop up automatically in the auto composition in the phone of National Security Advisor Mike Waltz. I mean, huh, it's my name in there too. How about Jasmine Crocketts. Now there might be a reason a textbook, standard issue liberal Goldberg or people like Goldberg at least would be in Mike Waltz's phone, or whoever's phone Mike Waltz would have been using. Mike Waltz used to be a defense policy director for Rumsfeld at the Pentagon and Gates at the Pentagon, and Bob Gates was Secretary of Defense for three years under Obama. Bob Gates new liberal people, and Bob Gates used to actually ask liberals their opinions on defense stuff because the world was like that back then, in the old days. Even Rumsfeld did that occasionally. Jeffrey Goldberg's number may have been in Mike Waltz's phone, may have been used often enough that it popped up automatically in Mike Waltz's phone because he asked his opinion on something once, and that if you are Mike Waltz, is the last thing you want Trump or any of these psychopaths who work for Trump to know. Guess what. I'm not the first person to have noticed this, certainly not the last person to have noticed this. Even Politico noticed it in an aside yesterday. Trump's quote chief concern during multiple conversations with Waltz has been why his NSA would have Goldberg's number in the first place. Indeed, some corners of Maga world have been a wash with unevidenced theories that Waltz was already leaking to the Atlantic, which may explain Waltz's eager denials on Fox. Eager is the plight word for insane. This whole thing insecure as it is, illegal, as it is, moronic as it is folks need to be fired as it is is indeed about keeping everything off the books, off the books that Trump can see. By the way, there's a second critical point here that has been entirely overlooked. I've heard it hourly since Monday. Isn't it lucky? The Jeffrey Goldberg was the outsider on this chat and just him and nobody else. Well, who in the hell said that's true? How do we know Goldberg was the only person on there who shouldn't have been on there? How do we know his name didn't pop up when Mike Waltz hit the name of some other media figure. I don't know, Brit Hume or somebody our David Muir, I don't know. How do we know there weren't forty seven reporters on the chat? How do we know there weren't twenty two former national security advisors on the chat? How do we know who Waltz and these other clowns are running their plans pass to make sure Trump doesn't get out in front of them and order the bombing of Kansas City or something. The other issues here are all valid and intriguing, And as a story, boy, did they hit the cloud just right? We got seventy seven and a half inches of snow here. This story has twice as much engagement worldwide as any other news story this year. But the news news here is there is at least one ghost mechanism in place to allow Trump's cabinet members to try to get something done without destroying the world yet. And if that's the case, the point of this is you have a president whose own people think he is now a complete feb that he cannot function, that he cannot be trusted, that he cannot be trusted not to do something at least disastrously stupid if that thing requires him to do anything more than blather for forty minutes and more slow into glorious Wanson as Norma Desmond and Sunset Boulevard. We need a whole new president like later today. The one we have now is nuts, positively definitely nuts, and his own people know it. I'm not defending any of them. I'm not defending what they did. None of these people are qualified for their jobs. None of them are really smart. None of them are honest. If they were honest, they probably wouldn't even try this. None of them are worth the oil with which to fry them to hell. But this, surprisingly enough, is not a Trump plan to keep reality from America. This is an American plan to keep reality from Trump. And here comes the espionage eighteen US Code seventy nine three, and a preface that to be guilty of espionage, you have to be charged with espionage, and the person who would charge the other people on the list with espionage is probably the most subservient of Trump's slaves, his attorney general. Still it's there, and the statute of limitations is ten years, So hey you nineteen lawyer up eighteen US Code seventy nine three. Gathering, transmitting, or losing defense information. And as I seem to recall having mentioned three years ago, it does not have to be classified information. Another red herring. It only has to be defense information that's in the code. Transmitting or losing defense information. Whoever being entrusted with or having lawful possession or control of any document, writing, code, book, signal, book, sketch, photograph, photographic, negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, note, or information relating to the national defense one, through gross negligence, permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, or two having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed from its proper place of custody, or delivered to anyone in violation of its trust, or lost or stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, and fails to make prompt report of such loss, theft, abstraction, or destruction to his superior officer shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both. Since Pam Bondy isn't going to charge them today, and even if she did, she could probably still find a way to get the case in front of Eileen, nobody gets convicted on my watch, Cannon. The real worry for people like Mike Waltz, is Trump still being interested in this story later today. The longer they all go without letting him get distracted by something, and I'm betting Stephen Miller is willing to tell him he needs to invade Australia today, the longer Trump's compulsion to make somebody else hurt builds up. The panic in Waltz's decreasingly coherent explanations for how Jeffrey Goldberg's name got in his effing phone book is obvious he is at the stage where he first suggested it was an accident. Then it was an aids doing. Maybe then that thing that happens when you enter somebody's name but somebody else's number, which sounds great until you remember that never happens. Then the thing where the mystery phone name gets quote sucked into your phone unquote. Mike Waltz is about an hour away from claiming Jesus put it there. Why also, would Goldberg have done this? The idea that he has somehow done something wrong here or in fact done something is madness. Why would he scheme his way onto this signal group and then publish what he found there, thus incriminating himself, but not publish all of it and in fact leave the good stuff out at first? What does it say that Waltz and heg Seth and the rest of them, He implicates, all of them would be stupid enough to use a public message app that Jeffrey Goldberg could hack his way into. I mean, it's that easy, and it's his fault that you picked it. Even if he did hack his way in somehow, or he sweet talked his way, what do you do? Did he sweet talk Christy Noom like all the other boys do. Achham's Razor explains that Goldberg was in Waltz's phone because Waltz put him there. So let's go to the phones and I mean that, would you like some of Waltz's old phones. Der Spiegel can get them for you. It's a complicated story. It does not translate well from the original German. What does. But the gist is their staffers at this German news magazine we're able to beg borrow and steal live active phone numbers and emails for all of these trumpest clowns, including the Big three of Defense. I'll just read the first two and a half grafts. You'll get the idea. Private contact details of the most important security advisors to US President Donald Trump can be found on the internet. Der Spiegel reports reporters, forgive me, we're able to find mobile phone numbers, email addresses and even some passwords belonging to the top officials. To do so, the reporters used commercial people search engines along with hacked customer data that has been published on the web. Those affected by the leaks include National Security Advisor Mike Waltz, Director of National Intelligence Tulsey Gabbard, and Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth. Scoll. Most of these numbers and email addresses are apparently still in use, with some of them linked to profiles on social media platforms like Instagram and LinkedIn unquote terrific one more detail quote. National Intelligence Director Gabbard was seemingly more careful with her data than her two male colleagues. She apparently had her own data blocked in the commercial contact search engines that contained the data of Hegseth and Waltz, but her email address was to be found on WikiLeaks and Reddit. Gabbard's email address is available in more than ten leaks. One of those also contains a partial telephone number, which when completed, leads to an active WhatsApp account and a signal profile. A signal profile they found a tulsy Gabbard's signal profile. Well done, Dirshpiegel. Just when you think human speech has become advanced enough to describe how dumb Tulsi Gabbard is the DNI, the Director of National Intelligence, as a signal profile connected to a phone number that is available on the Internet. Well, let me correct that DNI, National Intelligence Director of no Intelligence, doesn't know who has her phone, doesn't know where she was, doesn't know where anybody is the time.
Mister Whitkoff was actually in Russia during this chat discussion?
Was he not?
I was not aware of that. Was he on his personal phone at the time. I don't know what's my understanding that he was indeed in Russia? Director Dabberd, You were also traveling during this discussion? Correct?
Yes? And where were you?
I was traveling through the Asia Pacific region. I don't recall which country I was in at that time. You don't remember the country.
I'd have to go back and look at the schedule. Okay, how about now, Telsey, do you know what country you were in? Now? And for ten points? So you can move on to the lightning round? Is it Hawaii or Hawaii? Thank you? You're welcome. Okay. So why else should nineteen Trump appointees be fired or prosecuted or both? Well, I only have nineteen reasons so far, but I've been busy. You heard the first three, the phones and the espionage, and what a dope Gabbard is the others. Four signal is a way to have off the books conversations. The conversations can self erase at a week and can be adjusted in Project twenty twenty five, like you needed something else hanging off this gigantic story. In Project twenty twive, it says, use signal for these communications, so there are no records. Good idea worked out well so far for you. Number five, But the National Security Agency put out a memo last month specifically saying, do not use signal. It's vulnerable. Why do you think it's vulnerable because all of your accounts are in the files of Der Spiegel. Six. This chat, this edition of Signal Gate, came after that warning, and in it there's a reference to a previous signal chat. So America's alleged intelligence kingpin ignored their own advice about protecting intelligence. Seven. Trump's in house Russian Steve Whitcoff, was on the chat, reportedly at or near the Kremlin. Eight Here's something Senator Kelly noted. Department of Defense policy prohibits discussion of even controlled unclassified information on unsecured devices. He asked, Gabbard, are you aware of that? She said, looking very stern, I haven't read that policy. CIA Director Ratface. I'm sorry, Ratcliff, I'm not familiar with the DoD policy. Number nine. The White House says none of this was classified, meaning Goldberg of course could publish it, and then they accused Goldberg of publishing classified material. It's got to be one of the other kids. Ten Senator King targets, weapons, attack sequences, and timing were all discussed. Gabbard again says nothing's classified. Again, this is a red herring. It's like saying there's a difference between war plans and battle plans. You can go to prison for losing non classified plans. All it says is defense information. Right now, included among the things you could go to jail for for losing that his defense information would be Tulcy Gabbard's phone number. What are he in for, ma'am I lost my phone? How many years did you get? Nine point eleven? On Tuesday, Senator Warner hit another nail on the head, and the idea is somehow well, none of this was classified, but we can't talk about it here in the Senate. You can't have it both ways. When even Senator Warner has got you, you've been gott twelve. Ratcliffe now adds that signal has been deemed permissible for senior officials. Waltz, he said, sent a signal message to conduct coordination for this if that was Waltson, not somebody who owns what was Waltz's phone? In two thousand and two, number thirteen, the Press Secretary her moron lady, the center fielder answering for the president. She lied Caroline Levitt, no war plans were discussed. Gabbard testified that there was discussion around targets. So, okay, what's a war plan? What's a war? A war is something where you tried to target things, people, buildings, And the director of no Intelligence says there was a discussion around targets that would be war plans. Levitt said there were no war plans. Levitt light or perhaps she was just misinformed and is a moron. Fourteen Your CIA director rat face and by the way, he looks like Steve Carell an anchorman, doesn't he He says he can't recall if the timing of the strikes or if delaying a month was in the chat, even though that seems to have been the whole point of the chat. Fifteen The Defense Secretary didn't get the message initially that the White House had authenticated the chat, and he was continuing to pretend that it was all fabricated. You're talking about a deceitful and highly discredited so called journalist, he said, putting more brill cream in his hair, and they posted it. His office posted it online, to which brit Hume brit Hume, for crying out loud, answered Hegsith's you're talking about a deceitful, highly discredited so called journalist by writing, Oh, for God's sake, the administration has already confirmed the authenticity of the message. Sixteen They individually and as a group have now done everything they have ever accused Hillary Clinton of, except they've done it several times each in one week. Seventeen. The context of all this was the big show they made last week of Trump removing security clearances of the Bidens and everybody else he doesn't like because nominally they can't be trusted with secret information. Because we can't let the Bidens have secret information, we have to keep that for Tulsey Gabbard to give away. Eighteen Adam Kinsinger wrote, three days ago Trump took away my non existent security clearance at the same time as cabinet was texting up secret plans with a member of the media on board. Kind of sums it up. And nineteen the Danu Mont the final touch. Elon Musk is investigating what happened, meaning Elon Musk, and God knows how many more of his slave boys will be getting access to defense information they should not have. Once again, let me go way out on a limb here. Mike Waltz is an idiot. Jd Vance is an idiot, Pete Hegseth is an idiot, Marco Rubio idiot, Telsea Gabbard two idiots, John Ratcleff idiot who looks like Corell and Anchorman, Scott Bessant idiot, Susie Wils's idiot, Steve Whitcoff idiot, Stephen Miller idiot, Joe Kent idiot, Alex Wong idiot, Brian McCormick idiot, Walker Barrett idiot, Dan Katz idiot, Mike need Him idiot. Jacob last name unconfirmed, less of an idiot because at least he keepped his last name unconfirmed. Make him the new director of National Intelligence. Hey, Jacob, come over here, You're in charge now, For the one millionth time in this series alone, the democracy is preserved less by our exertions to save it than it is by the stupidity of those who seek to destroy it. The reason, as I know I noted before that I suspected something even more was going on behind the scenes is the texts made too much sense. Nearly as important as the fact that they sent them to Jeffrey Goldberg and not the wrestler known simply as Goldberg is the fact that a lot of the group chat here, which was not sent to Johann Goldberg, who performed the Bach Goldberg variations calmly and even dare I say, intelligently examines how dumb it was to bomb Yemen and be in such a hurry about it, and how little key players in that administration believe it was anything more than a publicity or strategy stunt. Roger Sollenberger the Daily Beast pointed this out first, and it was a smart find. Let me quote Goldberg, not the lead character in the old Jeff Garland sitcom v. Goldbergs. Let me quote Jeffrey Goldberg quoting what the morons sent him. At this point, a fascinating policy discussion commenced. The account labeled jd Vance responded at eight sixteen t I am out for the day doing an economic event in Michigan. But I think we are making a mistake Vance was indeed in Michigan that day. The Vance account goes on to state three percent of US trade runs through the Suez, forty percent of European trade does. There is a real risk that the public doesn't understand this or why it's necessary. The strongest reason to do this is, as Potus said, to send a message. The Vance account then goes on to make a noteworthy statement considering that the vice president has not deviated publicly from Trump's position on virtually any issue. I am not sure the president is aware. There's your tip off. I am not sure the president is aware how inconsistent this is with his message on Europe. Right now, there's a further risk that we see a moderate to severe spike in oil prices. I am willing to support the consensus of the team and keep these concerns to myself, but there is a strong argument for delaying this a month, doing the messaging work on why this matters, seeing where the economy is et CERG goes on a person identified in signal as Joe Kent. Trump's dominie to run the National counter Terrorism Center is named Joe Kent wrote at A twenty two there is nothing time sensitive driving the timeline, we'll having the exact same options in a month. At this point, the previously silent SM joined the conversation. Is he bald? Does he hate everybody? Is he sniveling? I think I know who SM is. As I heard it, the President was clear green light. But we soon make clear to Egypt and Europe what we expect in return. We also need to figure out how to enforce such a requirement. Eg. If Europe doesn't remunerate, then what if the US successfully restores freedom of navigation at great cost? There needs to be some further economic gain expected in return the disagreement. The relatively calm discussion about this being an unnecessary, rushed event underscore is something whoever is making the calls like hey, why do you say we go bomb Yemen? And just whoever is convincing Trump to do something like this was presumably not actually on that group chat, because to go back to the beginning, they had this chat on a public board at MySpace. I think so that Trump would not know and they could figure out how to keep him out of this because he's gone nuts. Also of interest here even more on this cataclysm, with the reminder that mishandling. Communications is apparently the first thing they ask you. If you are good at, we're bad at if you want to go into government. Hey see this pile of papers? Can you screw this up? The Bushies once spent a day failing to email me, and instead wound up revealing to me their secret roster of people they would go to at NBC whenever they needed a favor or to get the news slanted in Bush's favor. It's a history as old as time itself. And in unrelated news, Bill Maher is an idiot. No, I mean in a new way. That's next. This is Countdown. This is Countdown with Keith Olberman postscripts to the news, some headlines, some updates, some snarks, still ahead of course, worst persons, and the joy that is Bill Mahr going to the White House, because if anybody can smell a change in the wind, it's Bill Maher. I should have had that fifth fight with him in nineteen seventy eight. First, this is the Countdown podcast, and these are the places where there's news. Eight line the White House aka the Ship of Fools. I was going to do a bulletin for you Monday night about Trump's College of rival morons, led by National Security Advisor Waltz, sending via a messaging app their plans to bomb hoosey rebels in Yemen to two Cabinet secretaries, two intelligent directors, the White House Chief of Staff, the Deputy White House Chief of Staff, the Middle East Special Envoy, the Counter Terrorism Center Director, the Vice president, the editor of The Atlantic, several Major League Baseball players, and of course a dead letterbox in Antarctica because his name apparently popped up Autumnmatically, when Waltz typed in the initials JG, they say now for Jamison Greer Instead, it turned out to be Jeffrey Goldberg's easiest explanation is, as I suggested earlier, that's right, Mike Waltz knows Jeffrey Goldberg and may have already leaked to him. I guess we should just be happy the autocorrect typed in a milk toast boringly responsible mild liberal like Jeffrey Goldberg instead of say, whoopee Goldberg or Rube Goldberg. But of course that was Monday, and it was widely enough covered that you didn't need a gratuitous, obvious, immediate update from me. The Radiance of the Trump administration's stupidity and culpability, and as I noted earlier, the dawning realization that Trump is not making the decisions here anymore. The messages are on signal or WhatsApp or telegram or I Kremlin or wherever, so they can keep them from Trump. This gigantic shit show shined magnificently on its own with no added help from me for three days. However, I can add a little background to this, a little history, like one hundred and sixty three years worth. Hillary Clinton may turn out to have been the former governmental figure the most skilled at keeping confidential communications confidential. Seriously, Put an email in front of an administration staffer, any administration, any century, and they would screw it up. Put a phone call in front of an administration staffer, and they would screw it up. Put literally a handwritten note in front of an administration staffer, and they did screw it up. Nixon's phone calls were all recorded for about five years, and only one or two low level members of his staff even suspected anything until John Dene figured it out. Hell Robert E. Lee's special Order Numbnumber one nine one from September ninth, eighteen sixty two, detailed the South's invasion of Maryland, except somebody he gave it to dropped it. Dropped it on a campground at Frederick, Maryland, and a Northern corporal found it on the ground four days later, and suddenly the North had general These invasion plans at the opposite end of the importance spectrum, but with the same degree of utter incompetence and stupidity. I have my own personal experience I'd like to share with you about this topic about a president's trusted aids, about the fact that none of them could type the proverbial Shakespearean tome if they had five thousand monkeys with them and typewriters. Unlike Trump's, who couldn't keep his secrets secret, George Bush's trusted aids literally could not help but keep them secret. They could not manage to successfully send an email to me. It took them hours, perhaps days, to figure out how to send me an email. The thing wouldn't work, no matter how many times they hit it over the head with something. And by the time they did figure it out, they had inadvertently wound up giving me the list of everybody at NBC whom they trusted, and whom therefore I knew from that moment forward, I could not. On Monday, May third, two thousand and four, my executive producer phoned me at home and said, we got Ambassador Joe Wilson. He'll be on the show tomorrow. Within hours, the communications office of the White House of George W. Bush began a desperate, ceaseless, tireless effort to send me one email with talking points about Ambassador Joe Wilson, which repeatedly hille variously failed to get through to me because none of them could spell my name correctly. By late in the evening of May third, and throughout the morning of May the fourth, I got calls and forwarded emails from people throughout NBC who had received emails of their own from the Bush White House Communications Office, all of them with attachments addressed to Keith Oberman without the L, Keith Olberman with only one N, Kaieth Olberman Keith spelled wrong, and even Keith Overman with a V. This was actually truly the first day I believed I was having an impact on the Bush White House, and also the first day I realized they were incredibly stupid. There Democracy still had a slim chance. The Internet had been operating at more or less its present speed since about nineteen ninety seven or nineteen ninety eight. My name was all over the Internet in articles about my news career, about my sports career, about my my previous news career. There were articles I had written, there were books I had written, and these people who were trying to reshape the United States of America into a reactionary, conservative, cruel, xenophobic, semi authoritarian state, we're not smart enough to figure out how to spell my name, just so we know who we are talking about. By this point, Scott McClellan had succeeded the infamous Aary Fleischer as press secretary. His deputies were Dana Perino, who went from being the stupidest person ever to be White House Press secretary to being one of the stupidest persons ever to have a show on Fox News, Pamela Is Stevens, who later wound up as a producer at CNN. Because political press people are exactly like unemployed football coaches or baseball managers who get TV jobs and then leave the TV jobs to go back onto the field, the communications director was named Dan Bartlett, and there was another communications person there named Nicole Wallace, who has somehow shaken off the stink of working for both George and Jeb Bush and is now considered a darling of MSNBC, even though her only true non fascist credential is she doesn't like Trump either. The crack White House media team representing the most powerful man in the world in the anxious and foreshadowing years after nine to eleven, and not one of them could even find anybody else who could spell my name, let alone spell it themselves. More on them in a moment, But I need to explain who Joe Wilson was if you don't know, and why he was so important. Long before Colin Powell confessed to Tim Russert that he had been lied to by the White House and thus he himself had lied to the United Nations about Sadam Hussein's imaginary weapons of mass destruction. Those were the excuses from Bush Cheney for dragging this country into an unnecessary and national soul destroying war in Iraq. Lies and torture and scapegoating and suppression and brutality. Before that, there was Ambassador Joseph Charles Wilson, the fourth and in two thousand and two, after pressure from the White House, the CIA sent him back to the scene of his first diplomatic posting, the African nation of Niger to get proof for Bush that Saddam was trying to buy yellow cake uranium there to make nuclear bombses out of. And Wilson quickly found out it was nonsense, and he reported back and the Bush White House promptly buried his findings and instead, in the two thousand and three State of the Union address, just before he started bombing Iraq, George W. Bush said, the British government has learned that Sadam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa. It was and remains a complete lie, and war occurred because of it, and Joe Wilson called it a complete lie in an op ed in The New York Times on July sixth, two thousand and three. The Iraq War was still at this stage defined by Rah Rah. We're winning, but Sadam's WMD and his biological weapons and his chemical weapons might be over the next hill. And you'd better not criticize what we're doing, or maybe you're a terrorist, Joe Wilson said. The Emperor had no clothes. In two thousand and three, he was an American Hero of the highest order. A week later, a Dick Cheney flunky named Scooter Libby and a Deputy Secretary of State named Armitage began a campaign to punish Joe Wilson and discredit him. They leaked to a dyspeptic and hate filled columnist named Robert Novak, who is now working in the Bureau in Hell, that Wilson's wife was an undercover agent for the CIA, and that her name was Valerie Plame, and that the pair of them were dirty Democrats. And moreover, it was Plame who had urged that her own husband be sent to Niger to deliberately not find the uranium or the Sadam Hussein signed rics seeds, or whatever Bush expected to find there. The Bush White House destroyed the career of risked the life of and ruined several assignments and contacts of one of this country's own secret CIA agents just to make her husband look bad. So in May two thousand and four, when Joe Wilson wrote a book about all this crap, and he inexplicably wanted to go on MSNBC, which was still at that point trying to be more conservative than Fox Nudes and wanted to go on my little watched show, which was considered the neutral outlier on a network full of Joe Scarboroughs and Michael Savage's. This was a happy surprise for us, which was followed by this wonderful, flailing effort by the Bush White House to send me talking points about Joe Wilson before I interviewed him. They not only could not spell my name, but they were utterly convinced that my interview was designed to discredit Joe Wilson. The talking points, which eventually got to me from Assistant Press Secretary Pamela Stevens, consisted of six items over two pages. The headings were as follows. One political motivation. This was about Wilson calling Dick Cheney a lying SOB about a year after the knee jair trip. I couldn't figure this one out. Dick Cheney was a lying SOB. That's how I got to be vice president. Two Gingrich spokesman calls allegations about alleged March two thousand and three meeting completely falls. This cited Newt Gingrich and his people as if they were good sources as opposed to the punchlines they already were back then in two thousand and four, talking point number three, McClellan points out political objective, and four McClellan addresses accusations. These were quotes from the press secretary. This man suddenly quit that job two years later two thousand and six, and confessed he had repeatedly lied for George W. Bush and the others, and now he just couldn't take it anymore. And he would come on my show, Joe and give one of the best atonement interviews I've ever heard. It went on for forty five minutes. Five Fleischer says VP office did not request trip a quote from McClellan's predecessor, who unless he is talking about baseball, you should assume he's lying. Plus he might be lying about baseball. And finally, six statement by George J. Tennant July eleven, two thousand and three. This was a quote from the CIA director which they thought was their home run, and it basically consisted of this. Bush never saw that report. That was it. There are three punchlines to this story. Number One, I don't know why the Bush Communications office assumed I was there to take down Joe Wilson. But the moment I saw these talking points, any lingering doubt I had that they were not all lying bastards down there was erased. I used the talking points in my interview, all right. I read them out loud to Joe Wilson, and he re but at each of them with impeccable charm and elegance. He and Valerie Plain became regular guests on My show and would beat the crap out of George Bush with the plum right through the morning of January twenty, two thousand and nine. Second punchline. A year earlier, a supply clerk with a maintenance company on the ground in Iraq was captured Private Jessica Lynch. The military and the Bush administration immediately put out the story that she was being tortured by them evil Iraqi Sadam Hussein doctors. There was the glorious rescue of Jessica Lynch which followed, and the parades and the you better not question this story period, which lasted about six weeks until a Toronto newspaper printed a substantially different account that Lynch was rescued from an Iraqi hospital and a US military team in good faith went in to extract her, but that this was all arranged not by some sort of part of intelligence or un US operations or the Allies, but by the Iraqi doctors. Some of them sneaked over to American lines at great danger and said, one of your soldiers is hurt and we don't have the right equipment to help her. Could you swing by and pick her up? I reported that version on MSNBC, and the next day, as I was still taking my coat off, my boss, Phil Griffin called me in and said that the head of NBC News and the president of NBC, Bob Wright, had been on the phone all morning to him, insisting I should be fired for implying that the Bush administration had lied. Griffin proudly said he had talked them into letting me get away with just apologizing to the troops. I can't even read this with a straight face now, twenty years later, apologizing to the troops who rescued her, I must credit myself when my brain was fulled in that I did some quick thinking. The demand was comical nonsense Journalistically. On the other hand, if I agreed to apologize to, okay, the troops who rescued her whoever you want, I would get the chance to tell the whole real story of Jessica Lynch again, so I did. The apology was fifteen seconds, and while unnecessary, was sincere I didn't want to make the troops look bad. They didn't know anything about this crap. I made sure, however, that the retelling of the true Lynch rescue story took about two and a half minutes. That was in June of two thousand and three. So why as of May of two thousand and four, the Bush White House thought I was sympathetic to them, I'll never know, or why they bothered with me, I'll never know, which brings me to the last point. The unintended side effect with the long term impact of all those failed White House emails with my name misspelled was that this Pamelas Stevens person promptly forwarded them to people around NBC whom she considered friendly to George W. Bush. One of them was Tom Brokaw's assistant, another was in the office of future NBC News president Steve Cappus, and the final one was to some guy named George Uribey. And so I found out all the people in the Bush administrations we like them. List at NBC News who I should avoid under all circumstances. Let's see Brokaw's assistance. So no Brokaw, somebody in Cappus's office and no Cappus and this guy George Ribey. And George ribe turned out to be a guy hired by MSNBC from Fox News to go work for Scarborough. He fell out of favor with Joe Scarborough and I guess he didn't henchman enough for Joe's taste, and his influence fell to a guy. I don't think I've mentioned him to you yet. Chris licked. Believe it or not, there are still more new idiots to talk about. The daily roundup of the miscrants, morons and dunning kruegrip X specimens who constitute today's other worst persons in the world. Here are your nominees. The bronze worse Stephanie Borrowitz. Stephanie Borrowitz is a standard issue, utterly fungible, completely Stepford wife, religious nut job representing the seventy sixth District of the Pennsylvania State House of Representatives. The seventy sixth the seventy six you know, Limestone Township and Mifflinburgh. Stephanie, who once booed the capital officers from January sixth and insisted there was no January sixth, is just dangerous enough to hurt herself. And she has. The Bucks County Beacon reports that she has now posted and boasted on social media about how you should always see how your representative votes and not what they say. And she's super duper proud of her one hundred percent lifetime score, her total approval, her completely nonpartisan, a political grade from the John Birch Society. I'll just say that again. She has a one hundred percent lifetime score, this Pennsylvania state representative from the John Birch Society. All right, if I have to explain the John Birch Society, let me just sum it up thusly while you google. It's the Ku Klux Klan only for those of you who don't like fires and who do have shoes. Mifleinburg the runner up. Why it's Steve Bannon, and I have good news for you. We've broken him. We broke him. All those annoying complaints about his violent language and implied threats and delusions of grandeur, Well it's finally happened Steve has begun to edit himself, boasting on his online feed, which is like one step up now from the Michael Savage Kvetchelon hour about the l folderou from the lawyers, from Paul kama Weiss. You remember one of the stories before Signal Gates. Bannon was typically filled with violent fantasies, but this time they had a difference. He is self editing. Let me quote Bannon, you only beat them by hitting them upside the head with a two x four. That's a metaphor, put their heads on pikes. Metaphor metaphor unquote ten second quote He used the word metaphor three times. Gotta say, without the violent threats, it ain't much of a show anymore, Steve. Huh. But our winner, speaking of all threats, it's Bill Maher. So I've mentioned before. Bill Maher has gotten imperceptibly but steadily dumber every day that I've known him, and I've known him since about this time of year in nineteen seventy eight. Now he says he has a new friend, Kid Rock. How dumb do you have to be to have Kid Rock as a friend as a new friend, Like you just made a deliberate choice to become friends with Kid Rock. It's like saying I've just made the deliberate choice to get a venereal disease. Those two topics are not connected, Kid Rock and venereal disease. Quoting mar, I mean Kid Rock was here a couple of weeks ago. I want you to meet Trump. He said, I'm going to take you to the White House. So now we're going. Good plan. Bill. If Kid rockets stopped by and said I want you to meet Hitler, I'm gonna take you to Hell, would we've gone there? Actually, now that I think of it, if there were girls there, Yeah, probably would have gone to anyway. Mar was on this podcast. He also said he's convinced Musk is not doing what he's doing to get richer. Bill's kind of naive at times. Quote he does not care about money, which circles back to my earlier point about Bill getting dumber every year, every month, every week, every day. And he insists he is going to go to the White House. Quote, that's my model for meeting Trump. It's like be respectful, which he deserves. He won not once but twice. All right, how many people in life have won and you wouldn't cross the street to meet them. You're gonna go to the White House to meet this turd. It's funny, Mar continued. Girl said to me, what are you gonna wear? I said, I'm not gonna dress like Zelenski. There's news in there by the way, Bill, Bill has a new girl. Bill's new girl has been in the country long enough that she can speak English. Bill His new girl has been in the country long enough she can speak English. Anastagia dot com Mar two days other worst person in the world. Now, while I'm here, it's worth giving you the whole background about Bill maher Like I said, my history with him dates to the nineteen seventies, and it sat there unrevealed for thirty years until one day it all flashed over me like this. Sometime in nineteen eighty five or nineteen eighty six, I saw a movie on cable called DC Cabs a character, and it clearly the actor portraying him was talented and funny. But for some reason I felt like I knew him from somewhere, and I really didn't like him. I remember the feeling was so strong that I stuck around to watch the credits to find out who he was. His name was Bill Mayher mher Well. I had a teacher named Bill Mayer, but his name had a y in it. He was my advisor in high school. Now it wasn't him, but I knew three things. He was talented, I didn't like him, and I knew him from somewhere. This is pre internet, of course, so no way to find out where I knew him from. Hallowell's annual film guide would be my best bet. Maybe he'd be in the new one coming out checked calendar just eight or nine months from now. Eventually I found out Bill Maher was in the year ahead of mine at Cornell University. He was not at my radio station, he was not in my college. Maybe I knew him from a class somewhere. I could never nail it down. I like to say I have a photographic memory, but it's all polaroids, and I haven't always bothered to label them. Almost everything that ever happened he is stuck inside this big empty head of mine. But often key details like who, what, when, and where are just missing. Never wrote him down, and honestly, in this case, it was not worth the effort. I knew I was was the right word. The word was aware. Of him when we were both in college. Occasionally, especially after I went from ESPN to MSNBC in nineteen ninety seven, a writer would note the coincidence of university and years and ask me about it, and I would say just that I don't remember if he was in a class with me or I knew him somehow, But I was aware of Bill Maher, and then twenty two years ago, this month, November twenty third, two thousand, I went on his old show, Politically Incorrect, used to be the late night show on ABC. This was when I was doing sports for Fox in LA and it wasn't all sports episode. Lennox Lewis, the boxer, Mark Cuban, the owner of the Dallas Mavericks, Todd Zeal the first basement of the New York Mets, and me from Fox Sports. When I met Bill Maher before the show, I asked him about Cornell and whether or not we ran into each other. I didn't know anybody there. I didn't see anybody. I didn't go comedy anywhere. I didn't talk to anybody. I didn't meet you. Okay, excuse me. That settles it. Except during the recording of the show when Mark contradicted me. On some point I got angry at him, and there was no reason to get angry at him, so I dismissed the anger, and I dismissed the moment. Except on the way home, I kept thinking, I know him from school somehow, no matter what he says, and I know I didn't like him in school. In the next decade, Bill switched to his weekly HBO political show, and I went back and turned MSNBC into a political network. And the Internet happened so that Cornell juxtaposition became easier for for reporters to stumble over, so I would tell them the same thing. I can't remember the details, but for twenty nine years now I have been convinced I was aware of Bill Maher at Cornell. Finally came the day March twentieth, two thousand and nine, when they asked me to go on real time and Bill Maher Cornell University seventy eight asked me Cornell University seventy nine, something about colleges, and I said, well, as you know, we overlapped at Cornell, and I don't know if we met, but I was aware of you there. And he interrupted and said, no, you weren't, and I just went back and answered his question. Now, after every episode of his program, Mar has or at least had a little party backstage, I mean, catered with booze and with more guests than there are people in the studio audience, and usually a bunch of models. Having done that show four times, where they will fly you in first class and put you up for the weekend in LA just to do their show, and there's a party. I began to suspect that, like many of the guests, Bill Maher does the show just so he can have the party. Anyway. Not long after it started, it overcomes Mar and he's mad at me. And mind you, even if his allegation that he is five feet eight is correct, I'm just under six', four so he's giving up a lot of height during an, argument and he starts yapping about HOW i should stop SAYING i was a way heir of him At cornell And i'm just trying to get publicity off something that never. Happened and who could remember that kind of crap? Anyway and he never talked to anybody in four years in college because, quote except for The Ethica High school, STUDENTS i sold drugs to, unquote AND i notice he's getting, heated and this is just triggering that core belief of mine THAT i was aware of him in college AND i didn't like, Him and now it becomes clear to me he didn't like me. Either he's getting loud enough and he's swinging his arm around now and it looks kind of, funny but apparently it happens in the office. Sometimes and this is When Scott, carter who was the executive producer WHOM i definitely did know since like nineteen ninety two when he worked At Comedy central with my Friend Alan, Havy Scott carter comes over to defuse the. Situation scott was a three piece suit kind of guy with a thumbs tucking the, vest who would call a group of men, fellows as in say. Fellows So scott comes over and, says say fellows with Your cornell alumni reunion, here and of course this Makes Bill maher even. Angrier let me ask you. SOMETHING i used to drive down From hobart to see concerts At. Cornell have to, SAY i Think cornell was the leading concert school in the nation back in our. Day and Now scott starts the list who he saw in concert At Cornell Robert palmer and the Famous Grateful dead concert At cornell At Barton. Hall he was. There AND i, SAY i went To, springsteen And mar mumbles something About loggins And, messina AND i know What carter is doing. Here he's, Diffusing and we do a couple of rounds of who saw Which cornell? Concert and FINALLY i, SAY i can top both of you comic. GENIUSES i Saw Robert kleine in concert At. Cornell now it is, criminal but there's an excellent chance you may not know Who Robert kline, is suffice to say as prominent a comedian in the sixties seventies eighties As George carlin Or richard PRYOR. Hbo itself was built on Annual George carlin concerts and Annual Robert klin concerts and everybody. Else And Robert kline wasn't quite as deep or eternal As George, carlin but he was really on the money During watergate and During. Reagan SO i, SAY i Saw Robert klein in concert At, cornell And mar looks at me funny and not, angrily and says, QUIETLY i was at that. TOO i Saw Robert klink, two AND i don't really register That mar's mood has now utterly. Changed he's not, angry he's. Confused, WELL i, SAY i can still top, you because after that CONCERT i Interviewed Robert. Klein Now Bill maher starts to, squint and he looks at, me and he looks At Scott, carter and he looks back at, me and he, says, WAIT i Interviewed kleine after that concert. Too And i'm smiling through all, this and smiling and smiling and, smiling and then, suddenly simultaneously it Hits Bill maher and me at the same, moment in the same fullness of, detail AND i stop, smiling AND i shout At Bill, maher You and he pulls his arms in towards his stomach and kind of bends forward at the waist and covers his face with his, hands and he, says Oh, God i'm so, Sorry, jesus it can't. Be i'm, Sorry i'm. Sorry and while the anger wells up inside me so, POWERFULLY i can almost see it in my own, Eyeballs Bill maher's concert going Producer Scott carter is really. Confused, say, fellows DID i miss something or DID i have a brief stroke or? Episode AND i, Say, bill AND i just remembered HOW i happened to be aware of him in. School And mar still has got his hands over his face and people are looking at, us And bill is shouting, apologies AND i, say you want to tell? Him or SHOULD? I And mar just shakes his body no and, mumbles Oh, god you do. IT i, CAN'T i, CAN'T i, Can't and it all came back to. Me for, YEARS i would tell people the story of The Robert klein concert At Cornell university in nineteen seventy. Eight our radio station co sponsored his appearance along with The Cornell Concert, commission and in the contract we specified that a couple of us real comedy nerds at the radio station would get to go backstage afterwards and tape a brief ten or fifteen minute interview With Robert. Klin, basically we paid him not, much but we paid him to do an. Interview and when my Pal Andy grossman AND i get backstage to talk To Robert, klein and we have our two microphones and two mike stands and three tape, recorders there is this, guy this short, guy and he's yelling at the chief of The Corneill Concert, commission and he's yelling At Robert clin's, manager and he's demanding that he should get to Interview Robert clin, because Like, klein this kid says he is a stand up comedian and he publishes The Cornell Humor. Magazine and he points at me and he says he should get priority over these quote corporate sellouts from The Cornell radio. STATION i hated him on. Site oh, WAIT i say to him in nineteen seventy. Eight and he's small and he's got, dirty stringy hair and he's, loud AND i, say you are the publisher of The Cornell humor, magazine The Cornell. Widow and he snorts and SAYS i would get dead publishing that corporate, Sellout Cornell. Widow and SO i, say oh, so then that means you're the publisher of The Cornell Alternative humor, magazine The Not So Big red or whatever it is they call. It he, says no, way they are corporate. SELLOUTS i publish. This and he pulls out a stack of mimeographed pages stapled together and there's like a drawing on the front of a naked girl and. Handwritten it says it's his comedy. Magazine AND i look At Robert klein's manager AND i, say, so it's ten. O'clock and if you leave now while this idiot is screwing this, up the limo can still get Mister klein To elaine's in the city before it, closes, Right and the manager is wildly, impressed you know Of. Elaine's AND i said, yes AND i felt like an. Adult AND i also, said if we give this guy five minutes of our time right now while we're setting up our tape, recorders can we still have ten minutes with Mister. Klein and the manager, says good. PLAN i like the way you, think and he points to the kid and gestures for him to come. Along, no the kid, SHOUTS i want half an. Hour these corporate sellouts deserve. Nothing and Now i'm getting. ANGRY i, say, buddy so far all the corporations in the world have paid me about one hundred. Bucks SO i threaten. Him, now mind, YOU i believe this is literally. True since nineteen sixty, seven WHEN i was eight years, OLD i have started two fistfights two in fifty five. YEARS i am a man of. PEACE i am, loud BUT i am a man of. Peace BUT i say to this, guy you now have two, choices, kid five minutes With Robert klein OR i hit you in the. Face and he runs to where client's manager is still gesturing towards, him and he screams corporate sell, out and he disappears to do his, interview and behind him he leaves his little home made mimeograph ten or twelve page humor. Publication AND i pick it, up AND i read it and register it and dismiss it BEFORE i leave the. Building and IF i had only remembered what it said on the, cover all the years of mystery AND i was aware of, him and all that would never have, happened because the cover of the magazine Read Bill Maher's Comedy magazine By Bill. Maher and now back in well technically this is, correct back in real. Time at the party in The hollywood studio in two thousand and, nine the Producer Scott carter says, nothing And Bill maher is still doubled over in, shame AND i, say are you satisfied THAT i was aware of? You and he mumbles, Yes AND i, say will you ever question my? Memory? Again and he mumbles, no and he, says IF i need him to do my show or a charity benefit or, something just. Call and he says he's, ashamed and he offer to be his hand to, shake and we, shake and FINALLY i, say and by the, Way Bill maher Of Bill Maher's Comedy magazine By Bill, maher are you a corporate? Sellout and he says Kind and that's HOW i was aware Of Bill maher in. College i've done all the DAMAGE i can do. 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