In part two of this week's episode, Margaret continues her conversation with Mia Wong about Black Mask and Up Against the Wall, the artists who took on the system and looked good doing it.

In part two of this week's episode, Margaret continues her conversation with Mia Wong about Black Mask and Up Against the Wall, the artists who took on the system and looked good doing it.

As long as there’s been oppression, there’ve been people fighting it. This weekly podcast dives into history to drag up the wildest rebels, the most beautiful revolts, and all the people who long to be—and fight to be—free. It explores complex stories of resistance that offer lessons and inspiration for us today, focusing on the ensemble casts that make up each act of history. That is to say, this podcast focuses on Cool People Who Did Cool Stuff.

As long as there’s been oppression, there’ve been people fighting it. This weekly podcast dives into history to drag up the wildest rebels, the most beautiful revolts, and all the people who long to be—and fight to be—free. It explores complex stories of resistance that offer lessons and inspiration for us today, focusing on the ensemble casts that make up each act of history. That is to say, this podcast focuses on Cool People Who Did Cool Stuff.

Cool People Who Did Cool Stuff

As long as there&rsquo;s been oppression, there&rsquo;ve been people fighting it. This weekly podcast dives into history to drag up the wildest rebels, the most beautiful revolts, and all the people who long to be&mdash;and fight to be&mdash;free. It explores complex stories of resistance that offer lessons and inspiration for us today, focusing on the ensemble casts that make up each act of history. That is to say, this podcast focuses on Cool People Who Did Cool Stuff.

Part Two: Up Against the Wall: New York City's Armed Love Movement

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/b90a86f5-6ffa-4277-a3cc-af8c0182563d/transcript

Margaret talks with Kaveh Hoda about the complicated history of homosexuality and homoeroticism in one of the most important empires of the medieval era.

Sources:

https://www.jstor.org/stable/41299403
https://www.thecollector.com/osman-i-ottoman-founder/
https://islamichistory.org/osman-gazi/
https://commons.lib.jmu.edu/jmurj/vol9/iss1/4/
https://www.iranicaonline.org/articles/homosexuality-ii/
https://www.webology.org/data-cms/articles/20220528061731pmwebology%2019%20(2)%20-%20670%20pdf.pdf
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https://dergipark.org.tr/tr/download/article-file/164086
https://www.juancole.com/2025/12/literature-societies-homoerotic.html

Margaret talks with Kaveh Hoda about the complicated history of homosexuality and homoeroticism in one of the most important empires of the medieval era.
Sources:
https://www.jstor.org/stable/41299403 https://www.thecollector.com/osman-i-ottoman-founder/ https://islamichistory.org/osman-gazi/ https://commons.lib.jmu.edu/jmurj/vol9/iss1/4/ https://www.iranicaonline.org/articles/homosexuality-ii/ https://www.webology.org/data-cms/articles/20220528061731pmwebology%2019%20(2)%20-%20670%20pdf.pdf https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6074556/ https://yoksis.bilkent.edu.tr/pdf/files/10.1177-0363199013519126.pdf https://dergipark.org.tr/tr/download/article-file/164086 https://www.juancole.com/2025/12/literature-societies-homoerotic.html

Part One: The Gay Ottomans: Homosexuality in the Medieval Ottoman Empire

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/e1cb8c1e-4289-4ee7-b2ee-b471002c9075/transcript

Margaret continues talking with Andrew Ti about the worldwide movement, backed by science, that is changing how we treat children.

Sources:

https://africapublicity.com/of-ancestors-and-amendments-rethinking-child-discipline-across-african-realms/
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/happiest-countries-in-the-world
https://endcorporalpunishment.org/reports-on-every-state-and-territory/usa/
https://www.right-to-education.org/sites/right-to-education.org/files/resource-attachments/CRC_1989.pdf
https://www.ursulakleguin.com/blog?offset=1437445500607
https://www.puyallupwa.gov/535/Domestic-Violence-Statistics
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7390231/
https://issop.org/2018/11/19/e-bulletin-35-2-3-changing-the-law-on-corporal-punishment-in-scotland/
https://news.utexas.edu/2021/06/29/evidence-against-physically-punishing-kids-is-clear-researchers-say/
http://www.jillianvanturnhout.ie/jvt1111/
https://www.jstor.org/stable/26938757?seq=6
https://ijcrt.org/papers/IJCRT2506708.pdf
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/383296874_Corporal_Punishment_From_Ancient_History_to_Global_Progress
https://medium.com/@rabittashahbaz/heres-how-ancient-indian-parenting-values-and-approaches-changed-over-time-4d861b489388
https://www.europarl.europa.eu/cmsdata/180595/20090210ATT48998EN.pdf
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty-first_Amendment_of_the_Constitution_of_Ireland
https://brilliantmaps.com/corporal-punishment/
https://endcorporalpunishment.org/reports-on-every-state-and-territory/usa/
https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-29261462
https://agefinder.org/world-age-culture/marriage-age-under-18-countries/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._ratification_of_the_Convention_on_the_Rights_of_the_Child
https://www.africanexponent.com/how-colonialism-deceived-africans-to-believe-hitting-children-is-african-tradition-it-is-not/
https://www.unh.edu/ccrc/sites/default/files/media/2022-02/corporal-punishment-current-rates-from-a-national-survey.pdf

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/corporal-punishment-schools-and-race-an-update/

https://www.morgan.edu/Documents/ACADEMIA/SCHOOLS/SSW/MSW%20publications/s12111-024-09646-9%20%281%29.pdf

https://web.archive.org/web/20160127213730/http://www.phoenixchildrens.org/sites/default/files/PDFs/principles_and_practices-of_effective_discipline.pdf

https://endcorporalpunishment.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/India.pdf

https://endcorporalpunishment.org/irelands-journey-why-didnt-we-do-this-years-ago/

https://link.springer.com/rwe/10.1007/978-3-319-89999-2_13

https://ijcrt.org/papers/IJCRT2506708.pdf

https://habevio.com/corporal-punishment-in-ancient-greece/

https://psycnet.apa.org/manuscript/2025-10635-001.pdf

https://web.archive.org/web/20110314161338/http://www.zona-pellucida.com/wilson02.html

Margaret continues talking with Andrew Ti about the worldwide movement, backed by science, that is changing how we treat children.
Sources:
https://africapublicity.com/of-ancestors-and-amendments-rethinking-child-discipline-across-african-realms/ https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/happiest-countries-in-the-world https://endcorporalpunishment.org/reports-on-every-state-and-territory/usa/ https://www.right-to-education.org/sites/right-to-education.org/files/resource-attachments/CRC_1989.pdf https://www.ursulakleguin.com/blog?offset=1437445500607 https://www.puyallupwa.gov/535/Domestic-Violence-Statistics https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7390231/ https://issop.org/2018/11/19/e-bulletin-35-2-3-changing-the-law-on-corporal-punishment-in-scotland/ https://news.utexas.edu/2021/06/29/evidence-against-physically-punishing-kids-is-clear-researchers-say/ http://www.jillianvanturnhout.ie/jvt1111/ https://www.jstor.org/stable/26938757?seq=6 https://ijcrt.org/papers/IJCRT2506708.pdf https://www.researchgate.net/publication/383296874_Corporal_Punishment_From_Ancient_History_to_Global_Progress https://medium.com/@rabittashahbaz/heres-how-ancient-indian-parenting-values-and-approaches-changed-over-time-4d861b489388 https://www.europarl.europa.eu/cmsdata/180595/20090210ATT48998EN.pdf https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty-first_Amendment_of_the_Constitution_of_Ireland https://brilliantmaps.com/corporal-punishment/ https://endcorporalpunishment.org/reports-on-every-state-and-territory/usa/ https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-29261462 https://agefinder.org/world-age-culture/marriage-age-under-18-countries/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._ratification_of_the_Convention_on_the_Rights_of_the_Child https://www.africanexponent.com/how-colonialism-deceived-africans-to-believe-hitting-children-is-african-tradition-it-is-not/ https://www.unh.edu/ccrc/sites/default/files/media/2022-02/corporal-punishment-current-rates-from-a-national-survey.pdf
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/corporal-punishment-schools-and-race-an-update/
https://www.morgan.edu/Documents/ACADEMIA/SCHOOLS/SSW/MSW%20publications/s12111-024-09646-9%20%281%29.pdf
https://web.archive.org/web/20160127213730/http://www.phoenixchildrens.org/sites/default/files/PDFs/principles_and_practices-of_effective_discipline.pdf
https://endcorporalpunishment.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/India.pdf
https://endcorporalpunishment.org/irelands-journey-why-didnt-we-do-this-years-ago/
https://link.springer.com/rwe/10.1007/978-3-319-89999-2_13
https://ijcrt.org/papers/IJCRT2506708.pdf
https://habevio.com/corporal-punishment-in-ancient-greece/
https://psycnet.apa.org/manuscript/2025-10635-001.pdf
https://web.archive.org/web/20110314161338/http://www.zona-pellucida.com/wilson02.html

Part Two: The Movement Against the Corporal Punishment of Children

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/2f93489a-0d83-46dd-bec5-b46c00060f40/transcript

Margaret talks with Andrew Ti about the worldwide movement, backed by science, that is changing how we treat children.

Sources:

https://africapublicity.com/of-ancestors-and-amendments-rethinking-child-discipline-across-african-realms/
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/happiest-countries-in-the-world
https://endcorporalpunishment.org/reports-on-every-state-and-territory/usa/
https://www.right-to-education.org/sites/right-to-education.org/files/resource-attachments/CRC_1989.pdf
https://www.ursulakleguin.com/blog?offset=1437445500607
https://www.puyallupwa.gov/535/Domestic-Violence-Statistics
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7390231/
https://issop.org/2018/11/19/e-bulletin-35-2-3-changing-the-law-on-corporal-punishment-in-scotland/
https://news.utexas.edu/2021/06/29/evidence-against-physically-punishing-kids-is-clear-researchers-say/
http://www.jillianvanturnhout.ie/jvt1111/
https://www.jstor.org/stable/26938757?seq=6
https://ijcrt.org/papers/IJCRT2506708.pdf
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/383296874_Corporal_Punishment_From_Ancient_History_to_Global_Progress
https://medium.com/@rabittashahbaz/heres-how-ancient-indian-parenting-values-and-approaches-changed-over-time-4d861b489388
https://www.europarl.europa.eu/cmsdata/180595/20090210ATT48998EN.pdf
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty-first_Amendment_of_the_Constitution_of_Ireland
https://brilliantmaps.com/corporal-punishment/
https://endcorporalpunishment.org/reports-on-every-state-and-territory/usa/
https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-29261462
https://agefinder.org/world-age-culture/marriage-age-under-18-countries/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._ratification_of_the_Convention_on_the_Rights_of_the_Child
https://www.africanexponent.com/how-colonialism-deceived-africans-to-believe-hitting-children-is-african-tradition-it-is-not/
https://www.unh.edu/ccrc/sites/default/files/media/2022-02/corporal-punishment-current-rates-from-a-national-survey.pdf

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/corporal-punishment-schools-and-race-an-update/

https://www.morgan.edu/Documents/ACADEMIA/SCHOOLS/SSW/MSW%20publications/s12111-024-09646-9%20%281%29.pdf

https://web.archive.org/web/20160127213730/http://www.phoenixchildrens.org/sites/default/files/PDFs/principles_and_practices-of_effective_discipline.pdf

https://endcorporalpunishment.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/India.pdf

https://endcorporalpunishment.org/irelands-journey-why-didnt-we-do-this-years-ago/

https://link.springer.com/rwe/10.1007/978-3-319-89999-2_13

https://ijcrt.org/papers/IJCRT2506708.pdf

https://habevio.com/corporal-punishment-in-ancient-greece/

https://psycnet.apa.org/manuscript/2025-10635-001.pdf

https://web.archive.org/web/20110314161338/http://www.zona-pellucida.com/wilson02.html

Margaret talks with Andrew Ti about the worldwide movement, backed by science, that is changing how we treat children.
Sources:
https://africapublicity.com/of-ancestors-and-amendments-rethinking-child-discipline-across-african-realms/ https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/happiest-countries-in-the-world https://endcorporalpunishment.org/reports-on-every-state-and-territory/usa/ https://www.right-to-education.org/sites/right-to-education.org/files/resource-attachments/CRC_1989.pdf https://www.ursulakleguin.com/blog?offset=1437445500607 https://www.puyallupwa.gov/535/Domestic-Violence-Statistics https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7390231/ https://issop.org/2018/11/19/e-bulletin-35-2-3-changing-the-law-on-corporal-punishment-in-scotland/ https://news.utexas.edu/2021/06/29/evidence-against-physically-punishing-kids-is-clear-researchers-say/ http://www.jillianvanturnhout.ie/jvt1111/ https://www.jstor.org/stable/26938757?seq=6 https://ijcrt.org/papers/IJCRT2506708.pdf https://www.researchgate.net/publication/383296874_Corporal_Punishment_From_Ancient_History_to_Global_Progress https://medium.com/@rabittashahbaz/heres-how-ancient-indian-parenting-values-and-approaches-changed-over-time-4d861b489388 https://www.europarl.europa.eu/cmsdata/180595/20090210ATT48998EN.pdf https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty-first_Amendment_of_the_Constitution_of_Ireland https://brilliantmaps.com/corporal-punishment/ https://endcorporalpunishment.org/reports-on-every-state-and-territory/usa/ https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-29261462 https://agefinder.org/world-age-culture/marriage-age-under-18-countries/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._ratification_of_the_Convention_on_the_Rights_of_the_Child https://www.africanexponent.com/how-colonialism-deceived-africans-to-believe-hitting-children-is-african-tradition-it-is-not/ https://www.unh.edu/ccrc/sites/default/files/media/2022-02/corporal-punishment-current-rates-from-a-national-survey.pdf
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/corporal-punishment-schools-and-race-an-update/
https://www.morgan.edu/Documents/ACADEMIA/SCHOOLS/SSW/MSW%20publications/s12111-024-09646-9%20%281%29.pdf
https://web.archive.org/web/20160127213730/http://www.phoenixchildrens.org/sites/default/files/PDFs/principles_and_practices-of_effective_discipline.pdf
https://endcorporalpunishment.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/India.pdf
https://endcorporalpunishment.org/irelands-journey-why-didnt-we-do-this-years-ago/
https://link.springer.com/rwe/10.1007/978-3-319-89999-2_13
https://ijcrt.org/papers/IJCRT2506708.pdf
https://habevio.com/corporal-punishment-in-ancient-greece/
https://psycnet.apa.org/manuscript/2025-10635-001.pdf
https://web.archive.org/web/20110314161338/http://www.zona-pellucida.com/wilson02.html

Part One: The Movement Against the Corporal Punishment of Children

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/f61d528e-28fc-47fe-842e-b46a002f1957/transcript

Part Two: Up Against the Wall: New York City's Armed Love Movement

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