Hey, Club Shay listeners. We'll be back soon with weekly episodes featuring brand new interviews with exciting roster guests. Until then, enjoyed this special rewind episode with one of my favorite moments from Club Sha Shake. So far, all my life running, all my life us one slice, one got then all my life I've been grinding in all my life. We win in ninety seven, we go to Pittsburgh, I mean, we have to go. We're a wild card team, so we have to go on the road and beat Kansas City who had just beaten us three weeks earlier to win the division. So now we're going to beat the wild card. We beat Kansas City in Kansas City. Now for the AFC Championship, we got to go to Three Rivers, the old Three Rivers Stadium and play the Steelers who had just ramshackled us about six weeks earlier and winning that game. And we're going to the super Bowl. And we have a conversation that night, you know about what the expectations although you had never been. And I just remember Rember here in the adulation and your boys, like I'm like, Obody, I really really know somebody that I grew up never is going to play in the Super Bowl. Yeah, that was the only thing. It didn't dawn on me at the time. When you and I were talking, Now, oh wait, your team is playing my old team in the Super Bowl. It was like finally someone. I mean, I had done a lot of work done. I've been in a lot of battles with the Brett Farrs and the Robert Brooks's and the Edgar Bennetts and the Dorsey Levins. We had been teammates, and I had an idea of what it took for them to get to, you know, get that team in the Super Bowl because they had just won one the year before. But with you, it was different because it was like, okay, he should have he was going to the Army to start off with, and then he ended up going to Savannah State, all right, and then he wasn't getting drafted, and then he ends up going to Denver in the seventh round. And then my old quarterback is not throwing him the ball in positions that he can catch it. So my old quarterbacks about to get him and Shannon cut so everything is starting to look like you know what this is, this is supposed to happen. This way. And I think the only time I left since I left the NFL that I ever went what if was what if I was playing for my team and he's playing with his team playing in this Super Bowl? That would have been something else. That's the only time I have ever missed playing in the NFL. That's the only time, not one time since I left, except for that time, did I ever miss playing in the NFL. I don't think Mama and Buck could have handled it. No, I don't think Buck. I don't think Buck could have handled mamauld have been fine, because Mama would have had a jersey with you know, half Green Bay half Denver. She'd enjoy it, okay at least, but Buck couldn't have took my sister. Now, she wouldn't have handled that very well. Let's talk about your Let's talk about your career. Obviously, you retire at the twenty nine years of age. Seven years in the season, and there have only been two seasons in which someone is caught more than eighteen touchdowns. Jerry Rice in nineteen eighty seven had twenty two. Randy Moss broke that record in two thousand and seven with twenty three. If you look at what you've done up until the point you retired. Nobody had that many that many catches in it to start a career like you have your last season. And what people don't understand about this in your last six games, only one person in history has had that many touchdowns over a six games stretch. Your last six games of your career you had thirteen touchdowns. Only Jerry record breaking season he had fourteen and he did that during the strike, so his is pretty impressive. He did that during the strike short season. And your last game you had nine catches above three about thirty two and three touchdowns. And when you see the Hall of Fame, and I know it's something that's something that you don't talk about and you don't politic four, But do you believe looking at your resume and looking at the guys that you competed against, the Michael Irvis, the Jerry Rice to Chris Carters, the Herman, Andre Andre Reid, Andre Ris, and Tim Brown and four or five of those guys are in the Hall, do you believe your resume for seven years since Sterling Sharp should be in the Pro Football Hall of Fame Because it's you. I'm going to answer the question Normally, I wouldn't answer the question because I'm like, I can only get in based on what I did. But because it's you, I'm gonna answer the question. And I would say, if the Hall of Fame is for what you did? Everybody always talks about with me what I didn't do, and they go if he would have played longer. And I always say, well, if you collect rocks, and if I collect rocks for three years and you collect rocks for seven years, there's a good chance you're gonna have more rocks than me. And so when I look at the Hall of Fame, in my seven years, I let a receiving category either catches, yards or touchdowns. I did that a lot, and I did that in Green Bay, Wisconsin, and I did not do that with Hall of Fame quarterbacks. I got some catches in there for Bud Keys and Mike Norris Seth and Mike tom Zach and Blair Kiel and Anthony Dilwig. I got some catches from those guys. But I just think that everybody goes. Everybody is in love with what they see. And you know, I'm a firm believer in Randy Moss and Terall Owens and I'm a firm believer in Hines War. I'm a firm believer in Ike Bruce. I mean, I got no problem with nobody was in. But I'm like, if you're saying I needed to play longer, then you're punishing me because those guys played twelve thirteen fourteen years. So if you if it took them twelve thirteen fourteen years to do what I did in seven, then are they Hall of famers? And I'm not knocking anybody. I'm just making an argument, So I don't think about it, don't talk about it. I was like, if me getting into Hall of Fame would make me feel better than I feel right now because my brother's going in the Hall of Fame, I don't want to go because that was a great That weekend was a great weekend being there with me, you Libby, that was a great weekend. And so I don't think about the Hall of Fame. But the argument is, well he didn't do They always talk about what I didn't do because not many people saw what I did, and with the coverage that we got in Green Bay is not like the coverage that you have in professional sports right now. But I'll take my seven years, and you take any receiver's best seven years, just take their best seven years. I liked the way my numbers stack up. It's not my you know, it's not my fault that I only played seven years. Sorry that Hall of Fame, but for me getting into the Hall of Fame, and you were there every step of the way, because you were there in oh nine when I didn't get in. That was probably the lowest I've ever seen you too. Yeah, that was worse than I'm going to the army, and that was worse than I didn't get drafted on day one. That was the worst because I think you allowed yourself to let your guard down and say I had done what others Because I think at the time it was you, Ozzie and John Mackie. You know, hey, who's the best? Okay Keller, I'm killing, So it was you, Ozzie, John mack because they're like John Mackie kept so killing. He can go stand up and play wide receiver. Ozzie. He's not a dominant blocker, but he blocked for a dude. D ran for two thousand yards, so he knows what he's doing. You know. John Mackie's just crafty rock running suit. I think you allowed yourself to look at your numbers and say definitely and just just icing on the cake. I've been at three super bowl so you can say, yeah, you won two super Bowls, but you played with with John Elway and Too Real and Davis. Hey, look, I went to Baltimore and you know we didn't have John Elway, Trent Dilferd and we won a Super Bowl. Right, And so when you didn't get selected that first year, I think that was probably the lowest guy I'd ever seen. Yeah, I was disappointed because I'm saying to myself, if you didn't like my numbers this year, it's not like I can add to it next year. And if you don't like them next year, it's not like I add to him on the third year. And so for me, I thought, okay, I thought it was about winning. Well, no tight end at the time had won more games than I had won. Very few tight ends had had the career that I had with the eight Pro Bowls, true with the Pro with the all Pro selections, fifty seasons, the thousand yards seasons they had ever done that first tighty with seven hundred catches, eight hundred catches, with eight thousand and nine thousand, ten thousand yards, and I'm like, wait a minute, so what do you need what? So I thought it was about winning, and then it was like, come to find out, winning only matters if they want you not to, if they want you to get in, and then it and then they come, I don't believe you should come up with a reason to keep somebody out. Well, if you're looking at what someone didn't do, yeah, okay, then they then fine, I'm never gonna get in, and I'm gonna be fine with that. But if you're looking for a way to or you're looking for a way to keep someone out of the Hall of Fame, you know, because it's you know, other than where is Jimmy Hoffa and Amelia Earhart the only other? The most difficult question to ask is what's the criteria for getting into the Hall of Fame? The NFL Hall of Fame because it's the most secretive and no one knows. And that's the thing. As you go, I'm just looking at what I was able to, you know, And I'm sorry, but I didn't draft the guys I got to play with, you know, I didn't set the schedule up. I didn't go. This is what I did. And I'm like, so, if Shannon Sharp's gonna get it in the Hall of Fame because he played in three Super Bowls, you're penalizing me for not having John l Way and Terrell Davis on the team, you know. So I just look at it, like I say, you know what, I like my numbers and my numbers, and it's funny playing to you know, playing travel golf. Now I get a chance to be around a lot of Hall of famers. I have a lot of friends who don't like being around those guys. They don't feel comfortable, and I feel comfortable. They, you know, the Marcus Allen's and the Drone Betsies of the world, of Eric Dickerson's have always treated me wonderfully and they'll make me feel like, hey, I'm not a Hall of Famer, and so I'm like, I think that's because I'm happy about the way I play. I get I played as hard as I could for as long as I could. And if I wasn't a Hall of Famer eight years ago, and my Hall of Famer today, you know, am my Hall of Famer at ninety two, you know, and I you know, the other argument I say is if you put people in an arena like the Hall of Fame, if you do it every year, you're gonna have some people that shouldn't be in. You're gonna have some people that's not gonna get in. And so I'm like, I like my numbers, and I said, you just take the top seven wide receivers, pick any seven, and you take their best seven years, and you stack their seven years up against my only seven, and let's see where we are. Yeah. I mean that's a that's a very compelling point. But for me, man, you know what, when I think about it, it's the one thing that I really and it's a great honor. I mean, I was two I think I was two sixty seven. They got into the Pro Football Hall of Fame. They'll weiller with three hundred. I think they're in the three fifties now. But for me, it's something that I really don't think of. And I get you know, when Skip refers to me as a Hall of Famer, I kind of get uneasy because I'm like, because, yeah, it's me, I get the gold jacket, but so many other people played a part in me getting this gold jacket. And so for me, I get uncovered like Super Bowls, that's the whole team, because everybody on the team got a ring. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. And so that's something. And that when I went to Pro Bowl when my first, my first time, I was an All Pro, I get all the offensive lineman Rolexus and that very few, very few. That's something running backs normally do. Quarterbacks normally do. But I was just like so appreciative that I wanted to thank them because I really thought they blocked a little harder when they knew the mall was gonna come my way. So I get I kind of get uneasy, and that's how I am. There are guys like I don't like get around someone and like, oh I'm in the Hall of Fame, you're not, or you this and that. That's not how I look at it because I know and I know when we played you guys. I know what Wade Phillips was saying, and I know what the dvs were saying, and I know what other go talk to Dean Sanders and Rod Woodson and Niels Williams and Daryl Greene, guys that are in the Hall of Fame at the cornerback position and ask them I know what they tell me about Sterling Shark. So all that other stuff is finding good and the people that vote, they vote. But I know what the guys that played said about my brother. You know what to do. Hit the subscribe button to become an official member of Club Shah, where we always do something for two something

Hey, Club Shay listeners. We'll be back soon with weekly episodes featuring brand new interviews with exciting roster guests. Until then, enjoyed this special rewind episode with one of my favorite moments from Club Sha Shake. So far, all my life running, all my life us one slice, one got then all my life I've been grinding in all my life. We win in ninety seven, we go to Pittsburgh, I mean, we have to go. We're a wild card team, so we have to go on the road and beat Kansas City who had just beaten us three weeks earlier to win the division. So now we're going to beat the wild card. We beat Kansas City in Kansas City. Now for the AFC Championship, we got to go to Three Rivers, the old Three Rivers Stadium and play the Steelers who had just ramshackled us about six weeks earlier and winning that game. And we're going to the super Bowl. And we have a conversation that night, you know about what the expectations although you had never been. And I just remember Rember here in the adulation and your boys, like I'm like, Obody, I really really know somebody that I grew up never is going to play in the Super Bowl. Yeah, that was the only thing. It didn't dawn on me at the time. When you and I were talking, Now, oh wait, your team is playing my old team in the Super Bowl. It was like finally someone. I mean, I had done a lot of work done. I've been in a lot of battles with the Brett Farrs and the Robert Brooks's and the Edgar Bennetts and the Dorsey Levins. We had been teammates, and I had an idea of what it took for them to get to, you know, get that team in the Super Bowl because they had just won one the year before. But with you, it was different because it was like, okay, he should have he was going to the Army to start off with, and then he ended up going to Savannah State, all right, and then he wasn't getting drafted, and then he ends up going to Denver in the seventh round. And then my old quarterback is not throwing him the ball in positions that he can catch it. So my old quarterbacks about to get him and Shannon cut so everything is starting to look like you know what this is, this is supposed to happen. This way. And I think the only time I left since I left the NFL that I ever went what if was what if I was playing for my team and he's playing with his team playing in this Super Bowl? That would have been something else. That's the only time I have ever missed playing in the NFL. That's the only time, not one time since I left, except for that time, did I ever miss playing in the NFL. I don't think Mama and Buck could have handled it. No, I don't think Buck. I don't think Buck could have handled mamauld have been fine, because Mama would have had a jersey with you know, half Green Bay half Denver. She'd enjoy it, okay at least, but Buck couldn't have took my sister. Now, she wouldn't have handled that very well. Let's talk about your Let's talk about your career. Obviously, you retire at the twenty nine years of age. Seven years in the season, and there have only been two seasons in which someone is caught more than eighteen touchdowns. Jerry Rice in nineteen eighty seven had twenty two. Randy Moss broke that record in two thousand and seven with twenty three. If you look at what you've done up until the point you retired. Nobody had that many that many catches in it to start a career like you have your last season. And what people don't understand about this in your last six games, only one person in history has had that many touchdowns over a six games stretch. Your last six games of your career you had thirteen touchdowns. Only Jerry record breaking season he had fourteen and he did that during the strike, so his is pretty impressive. He did that during the strike short season. And your last game you had nine catches above three about thirty two and three touchdowns. And when you see the Hall of Fame, and I know it's something that's something that you don't talk about and you don't politic four, But do you believe looking at your resume and looking at the guys that you competed against, the Michael Irvis, the Jerry Rice to Chris Carters, the Herman, Andre Andre Reid, Andre Ris, and Tim Brown and four or five of those guys are in the Hall, do you believe your resume for seven years since Sterling Sharp should be in the Pro Football Hall of Fame Because it's you. I'm going to answer the question Normally, I wouldn't answer the question because I'm like, I can only get in based on what I did. But because it's you, I'm gonna answer the question. And I would say, if the Hall of Fame is for what you did? Everybody always talks about with me what I didn't do, and they go if he would have played longer. And I always say, well, if you collect rocks, and if I collect rocks for three years and you collect rocks for seven years, there's a good chance you're gonna have more rocks than me. And so when I look at the Hall of Fame, in my seven years, I let a receiving category either catches, yards or touchdowns. I did that a lot, and I did that in Green Bay, Wisconsin, and I did not do that with Hall of Fame quarterbacks. I got some catches in there for Bud Keys and Mike Norris Seth and Mike tom Zach and Blair Kiel and Anthony Dilwig. I got some catches from those guys. But I just think that everybody goes. Everybody is in love with what they see. And you know, I'm a firm believer in Randy Moss and Terall Owens and I'm a firm believer in Hines War. I'm a firm believer in Ike Bruce. I mean, I got no problem with nobody was in. But I'm like, if you're saying I needed to play longer, then you're punishing me because those guys played twelve thirteen fourteen years. So if you if it took them twelve thirteen fourteen years to do what I did in seven, then are they Hall of famers? And I'm not knocking anybody. I'm just making an argument, So I don't think about it, don't talk about it. I was like, if me getting into Hall of Fame would make me feel better than I feel right now because my brother's going in the Hall of Fame, I don't want to go because that was a great That weekend was a great weekend being there with me, you Libby, that was a great weekend. And so I don't think about the Hall of Fame. But the argument is, well he didn't do They always talk about what I didn't do because not many people saw what I did, and with the coverage that we got in Green Bay is not like the coverage that you have in professional sports right now. But I'll take my seven years, and you take any receiver's best seven years, just take their best seven years. I liked the way my numbers stack up. It's not my you know, it's not my fault that I only played seven years. Sorry that Hall of Fame, but for me getting into the Hall of Fame, and you were there every step of the way, because you were there in oh nine when I didn't get in. That was probably the lowest I've ever seen you too. Yeah, that was worse than I'm going to the army, and that was worse than I didn't get drafted on day one. That was the worst because I think you allowed yourself to let your guard down and say I had done what others Because I think at the time it was you, Ozzie and John Mackie. You know, hey, who's the best? Okay Keller, I'm killing, So it was you, Ozzie, John mack because they're like John Mackie kept so killing. He can go stand up and play wide receiver. Ozzie. He's not a dominant blocker, but he blocked for a dude. D ran for two thousand yards, so he knows what he's doing. You know. John Mackie's just crafty rock running suit. I think you allowed yourself to look at your numbers and say definitely and just just icing on the cake. I've been at three super bowl so you can say, yeah, you won two super Bowls, but you played with with John Elway and Too Real and Davis. Hey, look, I went to Baltimore and you know we didn't have John Elway, Trent Dilferd and we won a Super Bowl. Right, And so when you didn't get selected that first year, I think that was probably the lowest guy I'd ever seen. Yeah, I was disappointed because I'm saying to myself, if you didn't like my numbers this year, it's not like I can add to it next year. And if you don't like them next year, it's not like I add to him on the third year. And so for me, I thought, okay, I thought it was about winning. Well, no tight end at the time had won more games than I had won. Very few tight ends had had the career that I had with the eight Pro Bowls, true with the Pro with the all Pro selections, fifty seasons, the thousand yards seasons they had ever done that first tighty with seven hundred catches, eight hundred catches, with eight thousand and nine thousand, ten thousand yards, and I'm like, wait a minute, so what do you need what? So I thought it was about winning, and then it was like, come to find out, winning only matters if they want you not to, if they want you to get in, and then it and then they come, I don't believe you should come up with a reason to keep somebody out. Well, if you're looking at what someone didn't do, yeah, okay, then they then fine, I'm never gonna get in, and I'm gonna be fine with that. But if you're looking for a way to or you're looking for a way to keep someone out of the Hall of Fame, you know, because it's you know, other than where is Jimmy Hoffa and Amelia Earhart the only other? The most difficult question to ask is what's the criteria for getting into the Hall of Fame? The NFL Hall of Fame because it's the most secretive and no one knows. And that's the thing. As you go, I'm just looking at what I was able to, you know, And I'm sorry, but I didn't draft the guys I got to play with, you know, I didn't set the schedule up. I didn't go. This is what I did. And I'm like, so, if Shannon Sharp's gonna get it in the Hall of Fame because he played in three Super Bowls, you're penalizing me for not having John l Way and Terrell Davis on the team, you know. So I just look at it, like I say, you know what, I like my numbers and my numbers, and it's funny playing to you know, playing travel golf. Now I get a chance to be around a lot of Hall of famers. I have a lot of friends who don't like being around those guys. They don't feel comfortable, and I feel comfortable. They, you know, the Marcus Allen's and the Drone Betsies of the world, of Eric Dickerson's have always treated me wonderfully and they'll make me feel like, hey, I'm not a Hall of Famer, and so I'm like, I think that's because I'm happy about the way I play. I get I played as hard as I could for as long as I could. And if I wasn't a Hall of Famer eight years ago, and my Hall of Famer today, you know, am my Hall of Famer at ninety two, you know, and I you know, the other argument I say is if you put people in an arena like the Hall of Fame, if you do it every year, you're gonna have some people that shouldn't be in. You're gonna have some people that's not gonna get in. And so I'm like, I like my numbers, and I said, you just take the top seven wide receivers, pick any seven, and you take their best seven years, and you stack their seven years up against my only seven, and let's see where we are. Yeah. I mean that's a that's a very compelling point. But for me, man, you know what, when I think about it, it's the one thing that I really and it's a great honor. I mean, I was two I think I was two sixty seven. They got into the Pro Football Hall of Fame. They'll weiller with three hundred. I think they're in the three fifties now. But for me, it's something that I really don't think of. And I get you know, when Skip refers to me as a Hall of Famer, I kind of get uneasy because I'm like, because, yeah, it's me, I get the gold jacket, but so many other people played a part in me getting this gold jacket. And so for me, I get uncovered like Super Bowls, that's the whole team, because everybody on the team got a ring. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. And so that's something. And that when I went to Pro Bowl when my first, my first time, I was an All Pro, I get all the offensive lineman Rolexus and that very few, very few. That's something running backs normally do. Quarterbacks normally do. But I was just like so appreciative that I wanted to thank them because I really thought they blocked a little harder when they knew the mall was gonna come my way. So I get I kind of get uneasy, and that's how I am. There are guys like I don't like get around someone and like, oh I'm in the Hall of Fame, you're not, or you this and that. That's not how I look at it because I know and I know when we played you guys. I know what Wade Phillips was saying, and I know what the dvs were saying, and I know what other go talk to Dean Sanders and Rod Woodson and Niels Williams and Daryl Greene, guys that are in the Hall of Fame at the cornerback position and ask them I know what they tell me about Sterling Shark. So all that other stuff is finding good and the people that vote, they vote. But I know what the guys that played said about my brother. You know what to do. Hit the subscribe button to become an official member of Club Shah, where we always do something for two something