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What's somebody boy? Let's get to it man.

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Nah? No, not promoted on the front of the podcast like that.

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What you about thirteen?

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Yeah? Yeah, well I got you, bro. I know you from LA.

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You ain't signed the Vans, are you?

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Okay, yeah, I signed niggas to seven twenty deals over here.

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Were gonna talk about it. Man.

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Man. You know Colorado.

Man. You know Colorado.

How's it feel being alumni in Colorado and y'all turned up for football like that?

How's it feel being alumni in Colorado and y'all turned up for football like that?

Man? Oh no, that it was hard. Yeah, it brought life to the city.

Man? Oh no, that it was hard. Yeah, it brought life to the city.

We didn't expect it because when I was there they won like two games in a year like awful damn.

We didn't expect it because when I was there they won like two games in a year like awful damn.

For a long time. What year you come out of there or go Thered you go.

For a long time. What year you come out of there or go Thered you go.

Went there in twenty eleven. Okay, left for fourteen, so oh yeah they was cool. Yeah they was they won two games. Hell right before then I got the.

Went there in twenty eleven. Okay, left for fourteen, so oh yeah they was cool. Yeah they was they won two games. Hell right before then I got the.

Lin was a little bit dirty.

Lin was a little bit dirty.

So but I couldn't imagine you was killing on campus and that was come the same time. That's the hell of the type of recruitment to pull up there.

So but I couldn't imagine you was killing on campus and that was come the same time. That's the hell of the type of recruitment to pull up there.

No, we was, uh we were the team like on campus and stuff.

No, we was, uh we were the team like on campus and stuff.

So like when I was there, it was basketball schools crazy?

So like when I was there, it was basketball schools crazy?

What made you choose Colorado?

What made you choose Colorado?

I mean basically like I want to go to Pac twelve because I really want to go to USC, but they ain't offered me, so U c.

I mean basically like I want to go to Pac twelve because I really want to go to USC, but they ain't offered me, so U c.

L A was kind of like I would just take you.

L A was kind of like I would just take you.

And uh yeah, I didn't want to go to Harvard because of basketball.

And uh yeah, I didn't want to go to Harvard because of basketball.

So okay, what happened? Who else was recruiting you from LA? Right?

So okay, what happened? Who else was recruiting you from LA? Right?

You're like we talk about high school, I like historic high school place the killers in high school?

You're like we talk about high school, I like historic high school place the killers in high school?

Yeah, of course, I mean Larry Drew went to my high school, McDonald's Americans, Larry Drew. I mean obviously you played all the guys Drew, Tomorrow, BJ, Brandon, Jenny's Sorry's Brandon.

Yeah, of course, I mean Larry Drew went to my high school, McDonald's Americans, Larry Drew. I mean obviously you played all the guys Drew, Tomorrow, BJ, Brandon, Jenny's Sorry's Brandon.

How would be j But you take a high school b J high school.

How would be j But you take a high school b J high school.

J was nice, nice, okay, yeah, respect. I don't know, Hey, I think you tell you what the killer that.

J was nice, nice, okay, yeah, respect. I don't know, Hey, I think you tell you what the killer that.

I know I was talking about earlier to them.

I know I was talking about earlier to them.

I don't believe DeAndre Daniels. Oh yeah, yeah I was.

I don't believe DeAndre Daniels. Oh yeah, yeah I was.

I couldn't remember his name, but I'm like, I remember.

I couldn't remember his name, but I'm like, I remember.

He was Brice Jones went to the Pelicans.

He was Brice Jones went to the Pelicans.

Yeah, bro in high school, like he went crazy in au Bro. I think he was like a top ten player in the country something like that.

Yeah, bro in high school, like he went crazy in au Bro. I think he was like a top ten player in the country something like that.

Yeah, I know what that is. On our team, the three of us, he was the best one, no.

Yeah, I know what that is. On our team, the three of us, he was the best one, no.

For sure, because he was like what six five he was bigger than that, like six nine. Yeah, I remember that he was cold.

For sure, because he was like what six five he was bigger than that, like six nine. Yeah, I remember that he was cold.

Yeah, especially in high school. He playing a big three last year. I don't know. Maybe I'm maybe I'm bro Beindre Dan. It's like a Christian Wood kind of you know. I got I got looking at would man.

Yeah, especially in high school. He playing a big three last year. I don't know. Maybe I'm maybe I'm bro Beindre Dan. It's like a Christian Wood kind of you know. I got I got looking at would man.

I just remember he used to go on the au circuit. He was he made a name for himself. I'm gonna look for show for sure.

I just remember he used to go on the au circuit. He was he made a name for himself. I'm gonna look for show for sure.

For sure.

For sure.

Man, having that much out of high school, it's crazy. So yeah, y'all was definitely getting the looks. But he said you wanted to stay in the Pac twelve.

Man, having that much out of high school, it's crazy. So yeah, y'all was definitely getting the looks. But he said you wanted to stay in the Pac twelve.

Oh yeah, not like so, I had like most of the Pack twelve offers, most of the California school offers, but I really want to go to USC. That's like when my mom my brother went and all that, and they only wanted to offer me.

Oh yeah, not like so, I had like most of the Pack twelve offers, most of the California school offers, but I really want to go to USC. That's like when my mom my brother went and all that, and they only wanted to offer me.

It's crazy.

It's crazy.

It is crazy how it works. Because they were asked to good that was a good one. I get off from the good school and not off from the basketball. That don't make no sense. Oh, they probably just taking it because what year was tomorrow? It was gone, you know what I'm saying, It is gone.

It is crazy how it works. Because they were asked to good that was a good one. I get off from the good school and not off from the basketball. That don't make no sense. Oh, they probably just taking it because what year was tomorrow? It was gone, you know what I'm saying, It is gone.

But I'm just thinking like the guys that came after that, and I can't think of nobody.

But I'm just thinking like the guys that came after that, and I can't think of nobody.

Yeah, yeah, that's tough. Yeah, because was going. Yeah, that's tough. That's tough.

Yeah, yeah, that's tough. Yeah, because was going. Yeah, that's tough. That's tough.

I mean, who else was cold at that time?

I mean, who else was cold at that time?

Though?

Though?

In high school too? Was anybody else getting recruited.

In high school too? Was anybody else getting recruited.

Over Marcus is cold? Shout to move your Marcus class level like one fiftieth in their class.

Over Marcus is cold? Shout to move your Marcus class level like one fiftieth in their class.

So yeah, and Davis gil Chris Marcus, Austin Rivers.

So yeah, and Davis gil Chris Marcus, Austin Rivers.

That's the hell. That's one of the best. Under saying who who else is out west? That was all that's on our side.

That's the hell. That's one of the best. Under saying who who else is out west? That was all that's on our side.

Sorry, Carson was out West. He went state right, Yeah, Arizona, Jabari Brown, Oregon?

Sorry, Carson was out West. He went state right, Yeah, Arizona, Jabari Brown, Oregon?

Okay, uh why didn't you go to Oregon?

Okay, uh why didn't you go to Oregon?

They what you basically? Organ? Yeah, dude, it's nice play for Oaken Soldiers.

They what you basically? Organ? Yeah, dude, it's nice play for Oaken Soldiers.

I know you're talking about. I had Brad Bill in that class. I go to autumn A games. Who'd you play you for?

I know you're talking about. I had Brad Bill in that class. I go to autumn A games. Who'd you play you for?

Pumping run pumping roun?

Pumping run pumping roun?

Yeah, program when they had Lopez twins.

Yeah, program when they had Lopez twins.

Yeah, who is the school? Yeah?

Yeah, who is the school? Yeah?

Two?

Two?

Damn for the tickets or whatever, like oh wow, damn eight years ago.

Damn for the tickets or whatever, like oh wow, damn eight years ago.

Some of that say, thirty game still chilling. The game is the game. It's a wicked game. Got it?

Some of that say, thirty game still chilling. The game is the game. It's a wicked game. Got it?

Since we talk about college, you know, coming out of l a kid, what you think your n I L would have been going to next school?

Since we talk about college, you know, coming out of l a kid, what you think your n I L would have been going to next school?

What do you think you would have got?

What do you think you would have got?

Uh my, I don't think my n I L would have been crazy going to Colorado sophomore in Colorada though, Yeah, it would have been stupid.

Uh my, I don't think my n I L would have been crazy going to Colorado sophomore in Colorada though, Yeah, it would have been stupid.

Do you think the freshman year?

Do you think the freshman year?

Do you think you would have transferred after your freshman year because you had a good freshman year?

Do you think you would have transferred after your freshman year because you had a good freshman year?

Yeah, it depends on the bag that nigga would have went to USC Like, so I was like runner up to Tony Rowden coach. Yeah, he had much better so he deserved it. But uh yeah, I mean they were selling my jersey. They were selling like mustache gigs. I had to go to you at the time, that little kid and they said the mustache you're in the student store all types shit, So like, oh, yeah, you know, it would have been.

Yeah, it depends on the bag that nigga would have went to USC Like, so I was like runner up to Tony Rowden coach. Yeah, he had much better so he deserved it. But uh yeah, I mean they were selling my jersey. They were selling like mustache gigs. I had to go to you at the time, that little kid and they said the mustache you're in the student store all types shit, So like, oh, yeah, you know, it would have been.

Stupid, dumb seeing the kid with aj Debnta getting seven million dollars.

Stupid, dumb seeing the kid with aj Debnta getting seven million dollars.

That's crazy.

That's crazy.

How would that affect you? Like, you know, because you you you different than most of us, but you you tapped in cryptocarents all that. I'm just gonna get to that.

How would that affect you? Like, you know, because you you you different than most of us, but you you tapped in cryptocarents all that. I'm just gonna get to that.

But how would that affect you as a you know, a student athlete. If they would have liked to offer you seven million dollars, would that affect your mind going to the league or you'd have been like, shiit seven million, I'm cool. I think because I wanted to go to the league, yeah, I'd have been still driven. I think like that might have changed how I approached like post injury type vibe.

But how would that affect you as a you know, a student athlete. If they would have liked to offer you seven million dollars, would that affect your mind going to the league or you'd have been like, shiit seven million, I'm cool. I think because I wanted to go to the league, yeah, I'd have been still driven. I think like that might have changed how I approached like post injury type vibe.

Okay, I might have got hurt, been like you know.

Okay, I might have got hurt, been like you know.

What, Yeah, before that thought had been like nah, like I still want to go to the league, Like it's a dream of mine, like you know how the kid like even when you get some hype or whatever, like you sold laser focused like yo, like I still want to go to the league, so like all that shit don't really matter, so you know, but once you get hurt, it ain't really working out or whatever. Like my first two years in the league, just sitting on the bench watching I might have been like I got ten of it.

What, Yeah, before that thought had been like nah, like I still want to go to the league, Like it's a dream of mine, like you know how the kid like even when you get some hype or whatever, like you sold laser focused like yo, like I still want to go to the league, so like all that shit don't really matter, so you know, but once you get hurt, it ain't really working out or whatever. Like my first two years in the league, just sitting on the bench watching I might have been like I got ten of it.

Yeah I'm still broke.

Yeah I'm still broke.

Well yeah, yeah, I mean that's real. That's the fact. Real.

Well yeah, yeah, I mean that's real. That's the fact. Real.

Hey, people don't know. We were just before you came here. We was talking about your rookie year. Yeah, broke you And now they tell me my budget was three thousand a.

Hey, people don't know. We were just before you came here. We was talking about your rookie year. Yeah, broke you And now they tell me my budget was three thousand a.

Month mine, it's probably close to like ten damn no, no, we're talking about we're not including.

Month mine, it's probably close to like ten damn no, no, we're talking about we're not including.

Bills for you just to have probably something like that.

Bills for you just to have probably something like that.

Yeah yeah, I was like, damn was in Detroit. But it may have been with money you got renting other stuff you gotta do. Yeah, we were oh no, like that's just like you know, and buy some extra clothes, eat what everyone. Yeah iddress. I was wearing Team Geared in I was running bands then, so it.

Yeah yeah, I was like, damn was in Detroit. But it may have been with money you got renting other stuff you gotta do. Yeah, we were oh no, like that's just like you know, and buy some extra clothes, eat what everyone. Yeah iddress. I was wearing Team Geared in I was running bands then, so it.

Might've been a little bit less than three to be honest, like I was putting, I was thinking about like you know, RNT car like any other little stuff do like.

Might've been a little bit less than three to be honest, like I was putting, I was thinking about like you know, RNT car like any other little stuff do like.

But yeah, when I got in the league, my minim.

But yeah, when I got in the league, my minim.

Was five hundred thousand, so like I was back before inflation and Lebron James got a new TV so that's getting no money?

Was five hundred thousand, so like I was back before inflation and Lebron James got a new TV so that's getting no money?

Was that your parents are more so you like giving you the game on how to treat your bread?

Was that your parents are more so you like giving you the game on how to treat your bread?

I mean both.

I mean both.

I mean my parents stressed like saving and stuff, and you know you don't have like real money like that you don't know, so I don't know if they necessarily knew, but like you know, it's just about like don't blow it. Yeah, so I was real basic. I mean, this is I've been the whole time. That's how I'm wrong with that. They know who you are. You ain't got shure. That's how I always feel.

I mean my parents stressed like saving and stuff, and you know you don't have like real money like that you don't know, so I don't know if they necessarily knew, but like you know, it's just about like don't blow it. Yeah, so I was real basic. I mean, this is I've been the whole time. That's how I'm wrong with that. They know who you are. You ain't got shure. That's how I always feel.

But that's true. That's true. Shit.

But that's true. That's true. Shit.

Obviously, did you think Corado Nigga injured? How's that draft process? Like you talked about the mental a little bit. How was that whole entire process and then actually getting to the EBA Compson your dream?

Obviously, did you think Corado Nigga injured? How's that draft process? Like you talked about the mental a little bit. How was that whole entire process and then actually getting to the EBA Compson your dream?

Uh?

Uh?

Yeah, so I got hurt with junior or junior year and like all the other stuff. Oh yeah, So basically the draft was just a whole lot of like meetings and watching.

Yeah, so I got hurt with junior or junior year and like all the other stuff. Oh yeah, So basically the draft was just a whole lot of like meetings and watching.

You don't do nothing because I couldn't work out.

You don't do nothing because I couldn't work out.

So yeah, I met with all the teams, like did medical had like five thousand MRIs, all the same questions, all the same stuff, And I knew I probably wasn't going in the first round because it like got hurt so because I was like edging into the lottery when I was playing. Yeah, so I just sat there at home and waited there my name called. First piece of adversity was I thought I had a kind a promise a little bit before I ended up getting picked in the second round.

So yeah, I met with all the teams, like did medical had like five thousand MRIs, all the same questions, all the same stuff, And I knew I probably wasn't going in the first round because it like got hurt so because I was like edging into the lottery when I was playing. Yeah, so I just sat there at home and waited there my name called. First piece of adversity was I thought I had a kind a promise a little bit before I ended up getting picked in the second round.

So I felt a couple of spots, but it wasn't nothing crazy.

So I felt a couple of spots, but it wasn't nothing crazy.

But like what made you go to the like cause I had a similar thing happening, not to your extreme. I didn't turn my a CL, but I had a grade three MCL spring in the draft process, so like my dad freaked out, like, yo, you got to go back to school. But what made you like, yo, I'm going to the league anyway.

But like what made you go to the like cause I had a similar thing happening, not to your extreme. I didn't turn my a CL, but I had a grade three MCL spring in the draft process, so like my dad freaked out, like, yo, you got to go back to school. But what made you like, yo, I'm going to the league anyway.

So I didn't know nothing about the league, right, and I ain't nobody had went before, so I didn't know how much like connections mattered and work. I was just like, I'm nice, I'm done with school. They're gonna draft me somewhere. I'm an hel up. I'm gonna be whoever's in front of me, and we'll just figure it out. I'm not really thinking like, oh, because you a second rounder, they ain't investing you, They're not gonna play you. I'm not knowing nothing about the business. I'm just like, yeah, I'm ready. I'm not doing this again because I wanted to leave my software in. My dad told me to go back because you know, I had like.

So I didn't know nothing about the league, right, and I ain't nobody had went before, so I didn't know how much like connections mattered and work. I was just like, I'm nice, I'm done with school. They're gonna draft me somewhere. I'm an hel up. I'm gonna be whoever's in front of me, and we'll just figure it out. I'm not really thinking like, oh, because you a second rounder, they ain't investing you, They're not gonna play you. I'm not knowing nothing about the business. I'm just like, yeah, I'm ready. I'm not doing this again because I wanted to leave my software in. My dad told me to go back because you know, I had like.

That's when I heard of your sophomore Yeah, I had like USA team lined up and like all this stuff, and they're like.

That's when I heard of your sophomore Yeah, I had like USA team lined up and like all this stuff, and they're like.

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Oh, you're like maybe lottery late first round pick up, but you'll be like full blown like lottery maybe even squeak to a round ten type vibes if you go back. So again that's not knowing nothing. He's like, go back, I'm all right whatever. So I go back, get hurt and so fall. But in my mind, I'm like, I just play all these dudes Nations. I just played them all like I'm not thinking I'm not gonna come back whatever. I'm gonna be good, Like I'm gonna go to the team. I'm a b weapons in front of me and I'm gonna play. I think he's like merit based.

Oh, you're like maybe lottery late first round pick up, but you'll be like full blown like lottery maybe even squeak to a round ten type vibes if you go back. So again that's not knowing nothing. He's like, go back, I'm all right whatever. So I go back, get hurt and so fall. But in my mind, I'm like, I just play all these dudes Nations. I just played them all like I'm not thinking I'm not gonna come back whatever. I'm gonna be good, Like I'm gonna go to the team. I'm a b weapons in front of me and I'm gonna play. I think he's like merit based.

Yeah, no, no, no, it's not like business, not at all.

Yeah, no, no, no, it's not like business, not at all.

But I've seen you at Adidas Nations. It was just crazy because I used to I was with a Dida Sit. I used to go there, see so I've seen him. I seen the Dame Lillards, I seen them. I've seen all these guys. So it's just it's kind of crazy when I seen you go to the league and I'm fast forward it because you went to obviously you went to Detroit first. But when Kenny Akason, you got with Kenny, Kenny's my Kenny was my guy.

But I've seen you at Adidas Nations. It was just crazy because I used to I was with a Dida Sit. I used to go there, see so I've seen him. I seen the Dame Lillards, I seen them. I've seen all these guys. So it's just it's kind of crazy when I seen you go to the league and I'm fast forward it because you went to obviously you went to Detroit first. But when Kenny Akason, you got with Kenny, Kenny's my Kenny was my guy.

Yeah, that was my guy guy. So when you got.

Yeah, that was my guy guy. So when you got.

Never mind, just go ahead because because Kenny was my guy guy. So he called me and was like when you were playing for Kenny you were having he had a great year, and he was just like, I told him what you told me?

Never mind, just go ahead because because Kenny was my guy guy. So he called me and was like when you were playing for Kenny you were having he had a great year, and he was just like, I told him what you told me?

And I was like, what's that.

And I was like, what's that.

He was like, I'm comfortable with thirty two I don't, nigga, my life's going to be straight if I get thirty two million. And he was like, I don't. I was like, I don't need a max deal, Like I'm fine. Like if I can't make my life straight with thirty two million, I'm doing something wrong. He was like I told him that. I don't know if he told you that, but that's what he told me.

He was like, I'm comfortable with thirty two I don't, nigga, my life's going to be straight if I get thirty two million. And he was like, I don't. I was like, I don't need a max deal, Like I'm fine. Like if I can't make my life straight with thirty two million, I'm doing something wrong. He was like I told him that. I don't know if he told you that, but that's what he told me.

Yeah, that was That was when I was up for like that, because after leaving Detroit, I signed like the slave deal for sure, the non guarantee like a bunch of triggered that one, and so you're only up for like the second rounds.

Yeah, that was That was when I was up for like that, because after leaving Detroit, I signed like the slave deal for sure, the non guarantee like a bunch of triggered that one, and so you're only up for like the second rounds.

I like three for thirty or four forty whatever it was.

I like three for thirty or four forty whatever it was.

It times it is now, and I didn't want the four for forty because of like layering your years and your contract.

It times it is now, and I didn't want the four for forty because of like layering your years and your contract.

You know.

You know.

I was given the three for thirty with a player option, and that's kind of where that conversation came from. But yeah, not Kenny without without my D League coach Nate Lendser and Kenny Atkinson like none of this happens.

I was given the three for thirty with a player option, and that's kind of where that conversation came from. But yeah, not Kenny without without my D League coach Nate Lendser and Kenny Atkinson like none of this happens.

Yeah, I didn't want to.

Yeah, I didn't want to.

I'm my bad and fast forward because I know you went through the Detroit phase and that's like a big part of your journey to me.

I'm my bad and fast forward because I know you went through the Detroit phase and that's like a big part of your journey to me.

Oh for sure, Yeah, for sure.

Oh for sure, Yeah, for sure.

Like with the Detroit stuff, it was like it taught me the hardest version of the NBA.

Like with the Detroit stuff, it was like it taught me the hardest version of the NBA.

So stamming Guny is like a Miami heat disciple for sure.

So stamming Guny is like a Miami heat disciple for sure.

So you got the three hour practices everything, tape tape shoot arounds, all that other stuff. Rookies got to be there two hours before with newspapers and donuts and you you practice all the time. You got I had these things called ninety nine ninety nins after practice where they just put that on a jumbo try and just ran it. And I just worked out against coaches full court one on one, just like crazy stuff, Like it's more a test to your will than it is like me playing one on one against you know, ball boys and coaches, Like it's not for real, you know.

So you got the three hour practices everything, tape tape shoot arounds, all that other stuff. Rookies got to be there two hours before with newspapers and donuts and you you practice all the time. You got I had these things called ninety nine ninety nins after practice where they just put that on a jumbo try and just ran it. And I just worked out against coaches full court one on one, just like crazy stuff, Like it's more a test to your will than it is like me playing one on one against you know, ball boys and coaches, Like it's not for real, you know.

What I'm saying.

What I'm saying.

Like, so you know it was all that stuff at the time Vetscott treatment rookies didn't. So you know, I'm fresh off acl doing all this work, not really getting treatment like that.

Like, so you know it was all that stuff at the time Vetscott treatment rookies didn't. So you know, I'm fresh off acl doing all this work, not really getting treatment like that.

Things like that. Not a bad way, it's just like the culture of what it was.

Things like that. Not a bad way, it's just like the culture of what it was.

But that's what set people back because that's why I loved about Leonna.

But that's what set people back because that's why I loved about Leonna.

They didn't they didn't do that. Yeah, So Detroit was like that.

They didn't they didn't do that. Yeah, So Detroit was like that.

So I learned like the absolute hardest iteration, at least in my mind at the NBA.

So I learned like the absolute hardest iteration, at least in my mind at the NBA.

So when I got to Brooklyn with Kenny, it was love.

So when I got to Brooklyn with Kenny, it was love.

And then also just from a coaching standpoint, he had told me same like kind of my daily coach. They were like, look, bro, like you're gonna make mistakes, Like, don't worry about it, because when you're in the other system and you're thinking, like I gotta get the ball to this guy, I gotta be just. I gotta just run the play. That was you know, told to me like I gotta not mess up. You can't play imperfect game trying not to mess up. You know what I'm saying, You just you fail every time. So with those two, they were like, yo, like we believe in you play, like do your thing.

And then also just from a coaching standpoint, he had told me same like kind of my daily coach. They were like, look, bro, like you're gonna make mistakes, Like, don't worry about it, because when you're in the other system and you're thinking, like I gotta get the ball to this guy, I gotta be just. I gotta just run the play. That was you know, told to me like I gotta not mess up. You can't play imperfect game trying not to mess up. You know what I'm saying, You just you fail every time. So with those two, they were like, yo, like we believe in you play, like do your thing.

And then that's when it was kind of a rap.

And then that's when it was kind of a rap.

Is that when you got comfortable in the league though.

Is that when you got comfortable in the league though.

Oh for sure, I think.

Oh for sure, I think.

I think in my mind it takes about a year and a half of being able to just play to get comfortable in the NBA. I think when you first get in the league or when you first start playing the game.

I think in my mind it takes about a year and a half of being able to just play to get comfortable in the NBA. I think when you first get in the league or when you first start playing the game.

My first two years, like you can kind of just leap on the side.

My first two years, like you can kind of just leap on the side.

But let's say year three, I was getting out there, like I gotta get to it, like.

But let's say year three, I was getting out there, like I gotta get to it, like.

Just trying to like hoop as best I could.

Just trying to like hoop as best I could.

Halfway through probably my fourth years when it kind of like slowed down your anticipating reads, anticipating coverages, you learn what other teams like to do, all that stuff. So I think it takes that time period of like actually stacking games. So let's say maybe like one hundred games under your belt, like really playing you're like, okay, like this is the NBA style.

Halfway through probably my fourth years when it kind of like slowed down your anticipating reads, anticipating coverages, you learn what other teams like to do, all that stuff. So I think it takes that time period of like actually stacking games. So let's say maybe like one hundred games under your belt, like really playing you're like, okay, like this is the NBA style.

So what VIC gave you the game?

So what VIC gave you the game?

Though?

Though?

Yeah, in terms of taking care of my body, Joe Anthony, he was a great vet. In terms of just like keeping my head up and stuff like that, I would say Karen Butler, Jody Mixing, Greg Moro. Where the guys, oh Moose, my dog's my big thirteen really yeaha respect, So those are the guys that were like because we do stuff like one on ones and things like that. I see in practice and I'd be killing it right never playing though, And so they were just like look bro or look young fella, like you're.

Yeah, in terms of taking care of my body, Joe Anthony, he was a great vet. In terms of just like keeping my head up and stuff like that, I would say Karen Butler, Jody Mixing, Greg Moro. Where the guys, oh Moose, my dog's my big thirteen really yeaha respect, So those are the guys that were like because we do stuff like one on ones and things like that. I see in practice and I'd be killing it right never playing though, And so they were just like look bro or look young fella, like you're.

Gonna be all right, it's gonna work out.

Gonna be all right, it's gonna work out.

We see what you're doing in practice, like you can play at this level, like it's gonna something's gonna happen. Something's gonna happen. And I don't even think I really believe him at the time. I'm just sitting there like Loki soaking. I'm killing in practicing, like like no minutes. I think one year I played twelve games and those are all like thirty seconds a piece, like I wouldn't like playing it.

We see what you're doing in practice, like you can play at this level, like it's gonna something's gonna happen. Something's gonna happen. And I don't even think I really believe him at the time. I'm just sitting there like Loki soaking. I'm killing in practicing, like like no minutes. I think one year I played twelve games and those are all like thirty seconds a piece, like I wouldn't like playing it.

Oh, you talk about when you.

Oh, you talk about when you.

Had an NBA moment like but you're like, damn, I'm here now, I'm ready to really get.

Had an NBA moment like but you're like, damn, I'm here now, I'm ready to really get.

To a moment for my confidence or like just.

To a moment for my confidence or like just.

For your confidence, and when you felt like, Okay, I'm about to really start giving trying to give niggas twenty at night.

For your confidence, and when you felt like, Okay, I'm about to really start giving trying to give niggas twenty at night.

That was.

That was.

That was probably some time in Brooklyn when I when I started feeling like that, but you chucking that motherfucking Brooklyn. Yeah up. That was That was sometime in Brooklyn. I mean, but when I felt like, okay, you'll be all right. Was I had my first start against d Rose, I had like twelve and like ten or something like that. And then I had a game probably like a week later against John Wall at the Wizard had like twenty. It was like my first twin point game. I was like okay, like because those were people you look up to. You you know what I'm saying. So it wasn't just like you know, the backups were playing or you went in there and it wasn't a real game or something like you know real games and you know, so play well against them. They gave me confidences like Okay, you can do it. And then in Brooklyn, I mean I had to run. Had to be probably year four where I was like hitting like game winners and stuff, and I was like all right with everybody talking about it's on now.

That was probably some time in Brooklyn when I when I started feeling like that, but you chucking that motherfucking Brooklyn. Yeah up. That was That was sometime in Brooklyn. I mean, but when I felt like, okay, you'll be all right. Was I had my first start against d Rose, I had like twelve and like ten or something like that. And then I had a game probably like a week later against John Wall at the Wizard had like twenty. It was like my first twin point game. I was like okay, like because those were people you look up to. You you know what I'm saying. So it wasn't just like you know, the backups were playing or you went in there and it wasn't a real game or something like you know real games and you know, so play well against them. They gave me confidences like Okay, you can do it. And then in Brooklyn, I mean I had to run. Had to be probably year four where I was like hitting like game winners and stuff, and I was like all right with everybody talking about it's on now.

Yeah, that was probably it yere four.

Yeah, that was probably it yere four.

Like when we get when you first get to the league, obviously it's a it's a it's a difference, like you start seeing like damn, I was nice in college, but these dudes are crazy, and so you kind of embraced that moment. But like when they start picking on you, and they do the rookie hayes and they all the little ship that come with being a rookie. Did you have a rookie hayes? And did you your car popcorn? Did you get you know, I had to bring donuts all that stuff.

Like when we get when you first get to the league, obviously it's a it's a it's a difference, like you start seeing like damn, I was nice in college, but these dudes are crazy, and so you kind of embraced that moment. But like when they start picking on you, and they do the rookie hayes and they all the little ship that come with being a rookie. Did you have a rookie hayes? And did you your car popcorn? Did you get you know, I had to bring donuts all that stuff.

Yeah, I had donuts.

Yeah, I had donuts.

Uh.

Uh.

Uh the newspaper and then.

Uh the newspaper and then.

They like that's the old as team, that's the newspapers.

They like that's the old as team, that's the newspapers.

They like, uh like, try to tie it to a chair, throw me in the ice up goddamn.

They like, uh like, try to tie it to a chair, throw me in the ice up goddamn.

Because I was like I had that level of like, look, I respect.

Because I was like I had that level of like, look, I respect.

All y'all, but I'm not hearing it if you can't guard me. Bro, Like stop talking to me crazy, Like I don't want to hear that. So there was a level of that, like they say something like.

All y'all, but I'm not hearing it if you can't guard me. Bro, Like stop talking to me crazy, Like I don't want to hear that. So there was a level of that, like they say something like.

Bro, who got you want to get newspapers?

Bro, who got you want to get newspapers?

The person who was born boy papers and uh a notebook with a pen because he wanted to like occasionally write raps.

The person who was born boy papers and uh a notebook with a pen because he wanted to like occasionally write raps.

And it was like, bro, man, my boy had bars. We celebrate on here. I don't even remember celebrate.

And it was like, bro, man, my boy had bars. We celebrate on here. I don't even remember celebrate.

One like old school black and white composition joints. Bro like not wrapping for real? Why of bars? The leak celebrate.

One like old school black and white composition joints. Bro like not wrapping for real? Why of bars? The leak celebrate.

Ass come from the lineage to like Joe Smith. That's my best was Joe Smith. Eric Damn period time. I had some old head, so they my car because I wasn't going for nothing.

Ass come from the lineage to like Joe Smith. That's my best was Joe Smith. Eric Damn period time. I had some old head, so they my car because I wasn't going for nothing.

Bro, That's what I'm saying. I'm in here. I'm not going like I bring the donuts, but like Bro relax.

Bro, That's what I'm saying. I'm in here. I'm not going like I bring the donuts, but like Bro relax.

I brung donuts and they never ate them. And I kept on my locker and I just kept puting them. The box up there, and finally Josh Smith had a drunk night and the donuts were green.

I brung donuts and they never ate them. And I kept on my locker and I just kept puting them. The box up there, and finally Josh Smith had a drunk night and the donuts were green.

He opened them up. He said, Man, what the fu car was popped? My car was popped cords so Karan never spit that for you, Bro, Bro crazy, that's crazy. Wow.

He opened them up. He said, Man, what the fu car was popped? My car was popped cords so Karan never spit that for you, Bro, Bro crazy, that's crazy. Wow.

I see trying to get deals and keep it clean here and when I it's gonna be, you gotta pick a side.

I see trying to get deals and keep it clean here and when I it's gonna be, you gotta pick a side.

What like.

What like.

Up for it? It's crazy, Bro.

Up for it? It's crazy, Bro.

Split up and Spitial games talking ship. That ain't nothing bo Hello interview.

Split up and Spitial games talking ship. That ain't nothing bo Hello interview.

That's the best thing about the show as fun it is, it's very challeish, Man. We gotta talk about it, man, That's what I realized. I was like, Spencer is a real hustler because you're trying to get that deal in Bigcoin. I said, my boy is a real finessor please talk about how you got to that situation, man, all.

That's the best thing about the show as fun it is, it's very challeish, Man. We gotta talk about it, man, That's what I realized. I was like, Spencer is a real hustler because you're trying to get that deal in Bigcoin. I said, my boy is a real finessor please talk about how you got to that situation, man, all.

Right, son.

Right, son.

The funny part about that is, like it may headline because of the bitcoin aspect, because like the league threatened to kick me out. That's crazych was a whole other thing. But really it was a play on blockchain technology. So you the thirty second. Blockchain technology is about like micro transactions, being able to send stuff peer to peer, like adding liquidity to whatever system it is. So I was trying to decentralize sports contracts, all this betting that we see and everything that's going on now, trying to do that ship back in what was it twenty seventeen or something like that. So it was a play opening up like the sports contract world, and they were like Champ, m hm, it's through, We're gonna kick.

The funny part about that is, like it may headline because of the bitcoin aspect, because like the league threatened to kick me out. That's crazych was a whole other thing. But really it was a play on blockchain technology. So you the thirty second. Blockchain technology is about like micro transactions, being able to send stuff peer to peer, like adding liquidity to whatever system it is. So I was trying to decentralize sports contracts, all this betting that we see and everything that's going on now, trying to do that ship back in what was it twenty seventeen or something like that. So it was a play opening up like the sports contract world, and they were like Champ, m hm, it's through, We're gonna kick.

You out the league.

You out the league.

So that I had to like redo it in a bunch of different ways to like be complying with the NBA because you know, I love my job, Thank you guys, shout out in the NBA, shout out to the NBA facts whatnot. But uh yeah, I mean that that's really what it was about. And so it became far more bitcoin centric because.

So that I had to like redo it in a bunch of different ways to like be complying with the NBA because you know, I love my job, Thank you guys, shout out in the NBA, shout out to the NBA facts whatnot. But uh yeah, I mean that that's really what it was about. And so it became far more bitcoin centric because.

That's kind of what they were going to.

That's kind of what they were going to.

Allow versus the overall business of what I was trying to do, because I mean, as you see with gambling and the parlays and everything going on with fan doing draftings and all that, right now, I wanted to, you know, slide my little business idea in there. They get bought out, they make ten band dolls, I make one, and I'm like, man, it's all good.

Allow versus the overall business of what I was trying to do, because I mean, as you see with gambling and the parlays and everything going on with fan doing draftings and all that, right now, I wanted to, you know, slide my little business idea in there. They get bought out, they make ten band dolls, I make one, and I'm like, man, it's all good.

I'm partnering with the league. And they were like, that was what they were saying, right, No, they wasn't.

I'm partnering with the league. And they were like, that was what they were saying, right, No, they wasn't.

When he said when he when I read about it, I said, he a mad genius. I said, I was on his way out.

When he said when he when I read about it, I said, he a mad genius. I said, I was on his way out.

I where I said, he is a mad genius.

I where I said, he is a mad genius.

I said he bareter lead him alone because he thinking, he thinking ten steps ahead.

I said he bareter lead him alone because he thinking, he thinking ten steps ahead.

And they don't. I bet he knows. Don't worry about it, you know. Yeah, he was a mad genius. He was about to be junior Bridgeman.

And they don't. I bet he knows. Don't worry about it, you know. Yeah, he was a mad genius. He was about to be junior Bridgeman.

Yeah, I said he was a mad genius. They would have They wasn't allowing him to be a mad genius. Like it's the n B A I still love the NBA.

Yeah, I said he was a mad genius. They would have They wasn't allowing him to be a mad genius. Like it's the n B A I still love the NBA.

Listen.

Listen.

I can't wait to go to J Cole's party and uh, what's it called Dreamville, I'll be there shout out to the NBA.

I can't wait to go to J Cole's party and uh, what's it called Dreamville, I'll be there shout out to the NBA.

I was like, he's NBA. I'm going to the NBA.

I was like, he's NBA. I'm going to the NBA.

I just wanted to espersonally bought the Lord gonna bless you one day.

I just wanted to espersonally bought the Lord gonna bless you one day.

But I think like, because that's the moment when I was like, Yo, he's different. Because me, I was just like, I've know that I got the bread. For him to think like that, I was like, he's different. He probably gonna do something. So even that, and for you making your own shoe, I remember seeing you on the court, and I'm like, this nigga really got his own shoes, Like he really got his own shoes. And now to see that, like to do that. And then I see guys like Jaylen Brown, you know sexy.

But I think like, because that's the moment when I was like, Yo, he's different. Because me, I was just like, I've know that I got the bread. For him to think like that, I was like, he's different. He probably gonna do something. So even that, and for you making your own shoe, I remember seeing you on the court, and I'm like, this nigga really got his own shoes, Like he really got his own shoes. And now to see that, like to do that. And then I see guys like Jaylen Brown, you know sexy.

Yeah, so that's that's something that I guess in the history books, I probably won't get much credit for it, but like now it's sexy.

Yeah, so that's that's something that I guess in the history books, I probably won't get much credit for it, but like now it's sexy.

I'm happy Jameson Brown is doing.

I'm happy Jameson Brown is doing.

Now I'm gonna give you your You're not gonna pass him, no, I mean yeah, he said, he said sexy.

Now I'm gonna give you your You're not gonna pass him, no, I mean yeah, he said, he said sexy.

You ain't getting no pass on this.

You ain't getting no pass on this.

I was like, because they kind of looked like Kobe's a little bit and I was like, I was like, he like Kobe, like when I first see it, but you probably remember I for some of them.

I was like, because they kind of looked like Kobe's a little bit and I was like, I was like, he like Kobe, like when I first see it, but you probably remember I for some of them.

I said, Yo, can't get some of them? Yeah?

I said, Yo, can't get some of them? Yeah?

Actually I did. I was like, you can't get some of his shoes Brooklyn ball boys. I was like, YO, tell a dude, I want some shoes. They was like, yeah, he don't give them out.

Actually I did. I was like, you can't get some of his shoes Brooklyn ball boys. I was like, YO, tell a dude, I want some shoes. They was like, yeah, he don't give them out.

I was like, damn.

I was like, damn.

I was like, he's stingy with I don't know why. They said not, he don't be giving them out. I was like, for real, I was like, this ship's weak bought.

I was like, he's stingy with I don't know why. They said not, he don't be giving them out. I was like, for real, I was like, this ship's weak bought.

Yah, I bought the laws of I never got them. My boy, I'm still away from my triple B. I spent five. But then I seen you. I'm like, bro, he really you?

Yah, I bought the laws of I never got them. My boy, I'm still away from my triple B. I spent five. But then I seen you. I'm like, bro, he really you?

And again yeah, got his own shoes and I'm like that's hard. I'm like, I want some of his shoes. They like, yeah, don't give them out.

And again yeah, got his own shoes and I'm like that's hard. I'm like, I want some of his shoes. They like, yeah, don't give them out.

What made you do that?

What made you do that?

Though?

Though?

So basically again like kind of entrepreneur mindset, like I'm again second round, pick all that stuff, Like you want to give me like a fifty merch deal.

So basically again like kind of entrepreneur mindset, like I'm again second round, pick all that stuff, Like you want to give me like a fifty merch deal.

I was just like, but no, not few thousand dollars, just a little merch.

I was just like, but no, not few thousand dollars, just a little merch.

If you know anything about that your family fly through that thing before you can get it.

If you know anything about that your family fly through that thing before you can get it.

Yeah, I might as well not even have it.

Yeah, I might as well not even have it.

It's in there, Like, yeah, what it'd be like, you know what I'm saying, had my own shoes blah blah, and like I used to draw shoes kids, So it was like, you know, crime Butther doing his wraps, I'm drawing shoes, just killing time, and I was like, let.

It's in there, Like, yeah, what it'd be like, you know what I'm saying, had my own shoes blah blah, and like I used to draw shoes kids, So it was like, you know, crime Butther doing his wraps, I'm drawing shoes, just killing time, and I was like, let.

Me try it.

Me try it.

And so it's both harder and not as hard as you think if you have like a template to build off of, which was a Kobe and so coach is my favorite player. I wore Kobe's all the time, and so that's kind of how my shoe was constructed. And then it turned to a business basically, which then three sixty one, which is basically almost I mean you got probably like three major brands in China's leaning into the three sixty one, and so then they brought me out. My signature went up under them, and so you know, now I've had a signature with them for three years and going forward with that. So it ended up working because you know that path took me to them. Not only did I make a little bit of money doing my own shoe, but then you know, when you're shown you can do it, they buy you out and all other stuff, become partners everything, they pay you for all that. So it turned to a whole different type of deal then obviously, like you know, you know how it is with like Nike, and I'm like, ain't nobody getting up real money off of Nike unless you are that that one two three, Yeah, you gotta be Brian, you know, KD, Kyrie, those guys other than that, like you're not making no real.

And so it's both harder and not as hard as you think if you have like a template to build off of, which was a Kobe and so coach is my favorite player. I wore Kobe's all the time, and so that's kind of how my shoe was constructed. And then it turned to a business basically, which then three sixty one, which is basically almost I mean you got probably like three major brands in China's leaning into the three sixty one, and so then they brought me out. My signature went up under them, and so you know, now I've had a signature with them for three years and going forward with that. So it ended up working because you know that path took me to them. Not only did I make a little bit of money doing my own shoe, but then you know, when you're shown you can do it, they buy you out and all other stuff, become partners everything, they pay you for all that. So it turned to a whole different type of deal then obviously, like you know, you know how it is with like Nike, and I'm like, ain't nobody getting up real money off of Nike unless you are that that one two three, Yeah, you gotta be Brian, you know, KD, Kyrie, those guys other than that, like you're not making no real.

Money off them.

Money off them.

But three sixty one they got I got some players on that. Oh yeah, definitely, because we just got Yokis.

But three sixty one they got I got some players on that. Oh yeah, definitely, because we just got Yokis.

Yeah, was like when Yo came over. Yeah, it's little I think Aaron first, Yeah.

Yeah, was like when Yo came over. Yeah, it's little I think Aaron first, Yeah.

Then it was me. Then now they got Yokas. It's probably gonna it's gonna be a thing.

Then it was me. Then now they got Yokas. It's probably gonna it's gonna be a thing.

Is it just on the course or off the course?

Is it just on the course or off the course?

I mean say off the court too, But I'm not really off the court.

I mean say off the court too, But I'm not really off the court.

I really think the only I think the only baskets shoot you can get away with off the court probably James bro Like nobody's really wearing Kobe's or Bronze or anything.

I really think the only I think the only baskets shoot you can get away with off the court probably James bro Like nobody's really wearing Kobe's or Bronze or anything.

Like, don't wear the club.

Like, don't wear the club.

Let's be real, Like I know they say you can and like you know, maybe bron did some promo for that or hardened some promo for that, but like nobody doing that. There's Jays, you got designers, Chucks fans. Like in terms of American culture off the court, that's sixty months off the court of y'all. Come just call me, y'all know.

Let's be real, Like I know they say you can and like you know, maybe bron did some promo for that or hardened some promo for that, but like nobody doing that. There's Jays, you got designers, Chucks fans. Like in terms of American culture off the court, that's sixty months off the court of y'all. Come just call me, y'all know.

Yeahway, I realized shoes pulling on that right there?

Yeahway, I realized shoes pulling on that right there?

That's so yeah, that's last year. Those are the twos okay DVD too.

That's so yeah, that's last year. Those are the twos okay DVD too.

I'm wearing it. I think it drops in like I think it's supposed to.

I'm wearing it. I think it drops in like I think it's supposed to.

Can we get some thirties manes Man on the show.

Can we get some thirties manes Man on the show.

And I'm hoping on mar fact, I hope all the time. Still there we go. I hoped, and I hoped. The answers I hope in some hard nozs.

And I'm hoping on mar fact, I hope all the time. Still there we go. I hoped, and I hoped. The answers I hope in some hard nozs.

That's nons, right, some hard nons. Shout to the family. Shouts to the family. I hooped in the deer and fox shout to the family under arm.

That's nons, right, some hard nons. Shout to the family. Shouts to the family. I hooped in the deer and fox shout to the family under arm.

Get all right, yeah, I got some ship you all right, cools, it just give me a law to its crazy.

Get all right, yeah, I got some ship you all right, cools, it just give me a law to its crazy.

Funny bro the left. That's hard though, that is to matter. I want that colorway, look that apple green is fine all right, what's shop off camera? For sure?

Funny bro the left. That's hard though, that is to matter. I want that colorway, look that apple green is fine all right, what's shop off camera? For sure?

The next episode, I got you listen, man, here, You've been around for a lot of different stuff. I got to ask you most recently. We're gonna fast forward a little bit. Where were you at when you found out that Luca Dodgers was no longer your teammate?

The next episode, I got you listen, man, here, You've been around for a lot of different stuff. I got to ask you most recently. We're gonna fast forward a little bit. Where were you at when you found out that Luca Dodgers was no longer your teammate?

That's so let me let me tell you, Like, I don't think anybody would disagree with this going into the season, you would have thought he was untouchable, right, So we m b and and Edwards and Proac, Tatum and l and you know those type guys.

That's so let me let me tell you, Like, I don't think anybody would disagree with this going into the season, you would have thought he was untouchable, right, So we m b and and Edwards and Proac, Tatum and l and you know those type guys.

It was.

It was.

It was just crazy because you know, we had an early game against Cleveland the next day, so I went to sleep early. You know how like on a normal game that you might be up twelve to one whatever, gonna be up to eight or nine, so you're still getting your six, seven, eight hours whatever.

It was just crazy because you know, we had an early game against Cleveland the next day, so I went to sleep early. You know how like on a normal game that you might be up twelve to one whatever, gonna be up to eight or nine, so you're still getting your six, seven, eight hours whatever.

But we had to be up early. We were playing at like two or something like that. So I probably went to bedter like eleven or maybe a little bit earlier than that.

But we had to be up early. We were playing at like two or something like that. So I probably went to bedter like eleven or maybe a little bit earlier than that.

So when I woke up, I knew it was a problem, or not a problem, but I knew it was someone on because I had like other NBA player miscalls like like Zach Lavine d Lo, like people like something open on my phone, Like why I got like three miscalls from d Lo?

So when I woke up, I knew it was a problem, or not a problem, but I knew it was someone on because I had like other NBA player miscalls like like Zach Lavine d Lo, like people like something open on my phone, Like why I got like three miscalls from d Lo?

Why I got like a couple miss calls from Zach, Like hell going on?

Why I got like a couple miss calls from Zach, Like hell going on?

Like I saw my agent, but like whatever he called for, whatever you called for, and then I went to my messages and that's when you know what I'm saying, it's set in.

Like I saw my agent, but like whatever he called for, whatever you called for, and then I went to my messages and that's when you know what I'm saying, it's set in.

So yeah, I mean everybody was just shock.

So yeah, I mean everybody was just shock.

Bro, Like, I don't think there's any way to put it, Like, you know, both A D my friends, so it's kind of like, yeah, you know, it sucks that they're also acting like a D ain't probably a top five power for it all time, so like talking about the bag of chips.

Bro, Like, I don't think there's any way to put it, Like, you know, both A D my friends, so it's kind of like, yeah, you know, it sucks that they're also acting like a D ain't probably a top five power for it all time, so like talking about the bag of chips.

Or something, which is crazy.

Or something, which is crazy.

But I just think anybody that said they could have I thought it was gonna happen or predicted it or that that's a lot like everybody was.

But I just think anybody that said they could have I thought it was gonna happen or predicted it or that that's a lot like everybody was.

Everybody was shocked.

Everybody was shocked.

Yeah, that's one of the moments that everybody remembers where they were when that should happened.