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Club 520 - Jeff Teague on Victor Wembanyama's championship future, DeSean Jackson response, NBA Media Day

Published Oct 3, 2024, 3:55 PM

We’re back with Season 2, Episode 107 of Club 520, where Jeff Teague and the guys REACT to the best of NBA Media Day including: LeBron James and Bronny, Victor Wembanyama and Kevin Durant playing in his 17th season. And Teague and the squad respond to DeSean Jackson talking about Jeff on The Underground Lounge Podcast with Lou Williams. Jeff, DJ and B Hen also remember Dikembe Mutombo after his passing earlier this week. Plus the fellas discuss Project Pat, T-Pain, and look back on Jeff's career at Wake Forest as a score-first PG. #Volume #Club

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All right, man, we back another wonderful episode of Club five twenty.

I'm the host. My name is DJ Well, same gang with me.

To my left, my dog Bishop be hearing out the pear LEAs how you was nasty, cool and nasty.

Let's get it too of her baby back to it fully recovered.

I'll say, you know you came to working uniform and everything. Okay, appreciate it.

It's time, you know what I mean, running back to Hendricks experience outfit.

Alright, that's what you doing, hey, when you had a good ass time that you run to fit back.

That's how you just.

Got out the cleaners this morning. So you know, we good to go. October twenty seven, I look bad. Sixty ten. That's a Sunday and I'm gonna be giving out some money to the you know, my fucker who come with the best Halloween costume.

Okay, the white money at the Hendrix experience turned up.

That's what we're doing.

It's you know, he getting too much money. Now, nig given the white money.

And then the second place when I'm gonna get y'all. You know, that'll be like a diamond package, your free diamond package for the next one. So yeah, we're gonna do that.

Sorry up there. It's better than the fantasy football results.

Nah, Bro, it's just a little fun with me. You know, I'm giving back. That's what I'm supposed to do.

For show for show to my right, my dog young now yo, young tig, how you are man? Chill him? Bro? Yeah, I'm hating, Bro, you have to select he's on it.

I ain't evenna let you introduce them because I'm hating you have to select her joint song.

That's crazy.

Yeah, man, shout out to my guy man show love Man, send me a package and some other stuff at the crib. But we got the crockage points too. He's kind of fired to me with the new balances is hard. So uh much love to Bro. Send me the package. I had to rock them, probably get some pictures for the gram or whatever.

It is. Tough.

I like how everybody's in bursting new balances like they should be. You know what I'm saying. New balances have been solid for a very long time period. But you got guys like Select He Joe Fresh Goods. They be dropping heat every single year. And that is tough, man, my top five? Why are you fun with them?

Tough like that?

My top five?

I know he be shutting on them, But for me, I still at grade five seventy four is still far to me.

It ain't something you should be wearing all the time. I'm fucking with it.

Bro, the grade five seventy four, in that grade nine ninety Bro, those are classic.

No, those are classic silhouettes. Bro shout to them. Shot, he said, I'm never wearing the feelis on the five seventy before. Bro.

Yeh, don't they cool?

Bro?

I don't know. I just niggas say silhouette, I think of something else.

Okay, it's a freak man, freak shout out a silhouette challenge. Hell niggas down.

Like that mother fucking body thing they used to move downtown like like, let me see them survey up.

That being your influence is crazy.

I had been.

Yeah, we gotta start off the show man RP de Kemp Baba, Tumbo Man's crazy man.

Deep.

It's so funny because like obviously we know him from his playing ags and shit like that, but I always associate him with tem t because I remember the year just I had them with Tumbo's and that was like the only people on earth who had them.

Everybody had them.

The whole squad had the Tumbo hard. Shouts to Detas back in the day, brother was showing love.

Missed my black and Red joints, but shout out to Deep Man.

He was a good dude. To know him in Atlanta. He always showed love.

He come in the locker room talk shit, but us had a good time all the time, always smiling.

Always encouraging.

He was cool as he you can tell, like everybody fuck with him, like he always had good report with everybody. I mean, and shit, we already know on the court he wasn't no slous you know what I'm saying. One of the best defenders rin protectors you could have. Yeah, and me, I always laugh, like when you see certain players in different areas of different times, like every time they have like Michael Jordan talking shit the All Star Game, it was like always with him. But like Larry but I thought that was always dope, that he was just always around even when he was with the Sixers, like he was still relevant going crazy for a while.

Man, people with deep man he was. He was cool for sure. He had a couple of cold throwbacks back in the day too. That Hawks throw back was far and that nugget boy, Oh yeah, bro, he got that name. The Navy one is nasty. Yeah, shout out to my tumbo man.

Even though you can't what I'm saying. The what you called the Junie jersey, the Rainbow joint February and June, we can't keep that. I love how we just make up, just roll with it.

That's what he's here.

But now that he definitely got some crazy jersey man, r P Man, last not least r P. John Amos. Did y'all look at your phone and chet the picture? I said, y'all, please look, I'm not looking now, Please look what is it? Bro what I'll show you run it.

I'm not looking, brood, It's no. I don't play like that. He up there with the just reading read the capture. Remember I put the.

Bro That's what she said.

You know you have to read it, bro what.

He was paralyzed?

No, but she paralyzed him. She out of pocket.

Hey, man, when John ain't bos cracked at that age, is wild? Anyway? It was like eighty five ah big three disrespect like that. His kids must not be ship. They're supposed to smack her speak on my pops like that.

I think, what's crazy? You know what I'm saying?

Like obviously, you know one day we're gonna have our time. But the thing is, hey, when I die, don't do no that Friday. Do not get on spelling secrets. Don't be making up.

I mean sometimes if you add some pressure that fucking gets a story from your feet up a couple. It's hard to get a bottle there. You know, gods at that point, don't bring my ship.

And don't put no captued up like that.

You can say about that, but she right with a nigga for the spit up like a new boy and ship. You be stuck. What's wrong? Why she writes that? She crazy? That's crazy? People, bros. Yeah, r I p man, good time, good Times, Bro, I never watched Good.

You don't watch Good Times? Tough is a classic show. Who was we the wife? Oh damn?

Maybe not like you know. I love all women. Rock her here how you're supposed to. But that little Frow ship, the Floridas thro she blew it for all of you.

What's worst? The Florida Evans Frow or the webb Fro Florida.

We ain't gonna do like that, all right, wester Fro is iconic.

Bro, all right, bro, miss One's low.

What I'm just kneeling, Miss Winslow, you kneel here?

Off the dripping like that?

What putting her on the thea Brothers redid the good Times They had it with the deck like.

Show week and.

Shouts and that mother fucking had that moe fucking neck man. She liked that nigga with no neck for real. That ship was funny was in there, but uh, Jenna was in the right. Yeah the times gun smoke, she was for show gun smoke on that j J.

You ever seen that video when Jenna was dancing on dude and they had him chained like he was locked up to the.

All the crashed out. I crashed out. I told you I boy nigga, she was going boy like that extreme ship. It is crazy extreme restraints game.

See if y'all get bored type and extreme restraints, that's great. I can't even blame you because just tiplate crash that nigga like her some but she show her titty took the world. But like, bro, she's feeling you type extreme restraints. Bro wow about to be all type of you got sarchlnmark for s like that.

He said, I'm like, was like ten.

Yeah, she was got King Combes.

She's not ten on good time. She was older. You know, she was like eight.

Bro. The fact check is making it better. But he was young. He was young to okay, King Combes, I told you you got new allegations.

She's like, that's like but see you know what I'm saying though, and she she I'm saying she grew up on the show. But I'm saying that's like us talking about girls that was cute and we was younger. Bro, I understand we're on the same page. No, no smile on your name. I just was like, I mean, yeah, I saw lost like you trying to though that should have been your first instinct. Like now, looking at her like that. You know that your fourth grade This nigga here looking at her out of pocket niggas here, that's what the internet was gonna do, were talking about. Grew up.

God, damn, y.

You know, I have a song for y'all a little bit. I can't think of that Sloge and my uster bump. It was cold, no matter of fact, I can't think of the name of her. And Buster Rhymes had the class make.

When I make your bud, you're gonna make your body?

What what's gonna be? What's it gonna be?

That's almost.

Whoever produced that s Jani made a bomper.

We got a song with q Ship with damn m No, you gotta quit killing niggas. He's just fine.

Y'all don't know. Q Tip might be out of here. Bro Oh that's my gool Larry mom r P.

Moving on shouting cut.

Q Tip is a wild name.

To just let me with it for a minute. That's what we sit on that song. Ah, damn, I gotta play this song with you. I've never heard this song. You never heard that song?

I don't know speaking about music as we all here, your boy DJ, that's why we poled earlier. DJ gotta make its appearance and so.

You big drink on that what you want? R P to the soldier boy.

That's why I.

Kept speaking of the soldier. Why would be cracky? What up house.

Soldier or Luda Chris Ludacris Christs, But don't disrespect be soldier like that?

Like he don't he don't have hits? What was their favorite soldier? Boys? On which one you're gonna sing for us tonight? I'm not gonna probably singing it, but he definitely gonna hit that. You know what's funny? That mother fuck at the Volks I wouldn't be in the ballant.

Gonna be funny as fun I'm just excited to see what Nigga's gonna wear it. Man, I hope people dress like the Whear the dig dumb ass T shirts. That's gonna be a good ass time, man. But that's not fair to compare to the lud Chriss. Little Chris definitely has sold Just think he got more his than Lula bron He.

Probably thinks that dry and stole his whole flow.

Hey, when my nigga soldier was running around the press one with that same white dirty Gucci headband.

That's when he was to go Bro.

That's when I was all right, sold you boy? He back wait.

Officially trusted the Bobby Brown a rap for sure.

Excuse me?

Sold the boys and Bobby Brown a rap. Bro crashing out, Bro your bean bag, that's a great comparrator for real. Oh, he ain't have a whitney though, longevity too. Though he ain't have a whitney. He definitely didn't have a whitney. Damn. He definitely didn't have no whitney.

Yeah, well he had the whitney.

Nere in mind. We ain't gonna say the shouts to Teddy Riley family.

He had cats tas I don't count. Oh g what happened a cat sack? She probably she.

Starts snitching on him when he hit the cane in the room. Ain't heard her since.

Damn, I don't know he was on.

I know he recorded the video. She weak, she weak for that. He had just hit that cane. Nigga finish terror new one.

She supposed shout he hit that pre workout was about the gag that one son that just recently came out. He was playing for the show to TikTok. Yeah that she makes it clap. That's gonna probably go crazy. It's gonna be fun, just because of that time period was crazy. Like you said, it might get smoky if he come in there and not like embraced that. I feel like he is though, because he know he a legacy at at this point.

Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah, total the soldiers still popping in on niggas toward dates and giving him. He just did the show with him in Atlanta. I know it probably wasn't crazy, but I wish I was there. That could have been shipp bro Drewski brought everybody out. Bro, I wish franchise. Boy, that's hard. What's the nigga DJ everybody?

He had one of the most memorable episodes of MTV Criers to me because I was like that nigga living Crooked Creek, Like how you get.

On the show? They got the sad that two Steps ship with T Pain, Oh my lord.

That's one of the hardest collect Like his verse on there had the hardest features ever.

Bro yees.

It started going crazy.

And obviously he's been great for a long time, but that four year run he had, like when he was in high school in the was crazy.

Pain hell T pain heat m came.

Out so low. Then he started doing his features. Then he started hopping on other people. Ship bro t pain is for sure twenties.

What's his greatest feature? Like collapse song that he did with anybody? Damn, that's tough.

Shoty plos Nah, you know it's crazy wining with j Call.

I know that was you out of pocket, but that's the biggest I said, the biggest the numbers.

I ain't going about that the best, but he was gonna find from the nigga, but I respect it held the brand down.

Shoty is shorty. You know it's crazy that was Webby song.

Damn my numbers wise, it was Kiss Kiss Chris bro you that love it numbers kids, Kiss Kiss is bigger than all I do is win Wow numbers. That's good to know.

I didn't know that, which is crazy.

That song is licensed everywhere in the world, but it's still Chris Brown. That's why niggas be having to up.

He's you know, Chris Brown. Also since we there, it's the only artist you know, no Usher, no Beyonce, no Michael Jackson in this century too, you know, top the charge. I'm just saying just what you know that Michael wasn't live. What do you mean. I'm just saying, like it don't matter that they could live long enough. Chris Brown crazy artists of this century to top the charts, to crack the hundred. You know most times ever, Bro shouts Chris Brown, But no pain is pain is crazy. I don't know about what you say for the greatest t pain.

Lives shot ass, but I don't know it's one of the favorites because uh.

He was on Kanye song with uh good welcome to line.

Nah, you keep that one that was it's hard, but you keep it. Fuck with jay Z. I have to tap in. We can move on, though. I'll come back to it with.

Jay Z and Kanye.

Yeah, go hard, Go hard.

Ah, that's not I'll pro take the Maybag Music three joint over that.

Yeah, no, not over go hard. Bro. His versone Go Hard was crazy. But I respect y'all being up ya.

Shout and pan.

Hey, I got it.

Media day. You know what I'm saying. NBA is officially back. Just kicked off this week.

I was just looking at random SATs and stuff, and you know what's crazy, this is year seventeen for KD. Like as much as we talk about how many years Lebron has been the league, Brokadie, year seventeen and still being elited.

It should be talked about a lot more. I told her I paid for.

Did you no? That's apply?

Hey, Honestly he started off with rap some on one off. As soon as I seen.

Miss your legacy, this niggas about paying for the Coachy room.

Now, I'm just saying, nigga said right after your sell your verse, he got right up. Ship, he let me find out. I just say, I just kind of killed that ship told paying for a year sevent Imagine you said, he shout out to k what I said, year seventeen. Yeah, that's a that's a lot of buckets, bro, it's a lot of years to be doing. We've been doing for long.

Anyboy in that draft still in the league today.

Ship, that is a good question, West Broke.

He went in that draft.

It was a year after year sixteen, Year sixteen, K is seventeen, K year seventeen eighteen, Mike, Mike Coley and that for seventeen.

Damn damn out to Mike, you go o k D.

It's nineteen for Chris Paul.

Got repeat and about to get a twenty plus. It's dope, bro, and some of the footage they've been show.

I mean, we'll talk about it more of the Spurs camp like what I'm saying, Like we said that the perfect person to be with me, But damn, nineteen twenty that's crazy.

Niggas been the league though he.

On't six foot guard playing twenty years him and Mike playing that long at that size on the rim.

Bro, Man, that's that's special.

It's still effective and still putting input on the game for sure. I wanted to ask out this while we just looking at random ship and what year do you think Victor will Is gonna get his first run? Because I don't think it's gonna be an if with him. I think it's just winning.

I ain't know he's gonna he got about a year seven eight.

I'm probably taking two blue choes.

Bro, A gonna lie you got about seven eight, Bro, that's over with what we don't think the two blue chooses crazy double coping. That as nuts, But damn.

Y'all think y'all don't think when we're gonna get.

It, man, no time.

So that's around and cast that motherfucker week obviously, you know that's gonna change. That's why I said I give it maybe five year seven for him. Bro, you think he's gonna get winning year five? I think we're five at the latest. Who who who they got over there? Bro?

Going there, That's what I'm saying. Bro.

If they don't put him around nobody bro by that time period. But they're wasting him because by years by then, Bro, he's gonna be unstoppable. Bro, he's never gonna be a short thing away. CP only went there because he said he wanted to play still.

For sure, hes gonna be unstoppable this year. But taking that nigga to the ship, well, how the league is getting with these teams? Bro? Absolutely not, absolutely not.

Bro, You're gonna have to I'll stand on that lege.

Man.

I think by year six he's gonna have to ring.

They're gonna have to go get I don't even know who's gonna be available about that time. But you don't think it'd being the league. I mean, we ain't know some serious You don't think the league would want that? They don't think they want him to be Yeah, they do, Bro s Antonio. Yeah, that's the statement, like it's quiet bro there. Yeah, he asked for a lot, Bro, I think that Nigga about to really dominate. I think he about to fuck the league up for sure. I think he is too. I thank you, Carol. I think he got a chance on this year. To be honest, he's gonna kill Quiet for the Ship can win mv P this year because he's on average twenty plus team rebounds, probably five blocks.

M v P. They gotta be like top four, and I think the.

Spurs ain't gonna be top four, but I think they're gonna make the player for sure, not top four. I think they don't make the playoffs though, if they get to the seventh, sixth or seventh seed in the West, he might win MVP if they rosters ass.

But you know how mad Niggas will be a seventh c v P.

It ain't no denying it. You can't deny it what he was on a Thursday. Bo, he get a seventh, seventh c v P. It's crazy because he's gonna have to be doing some extreme ship every single game to make them win. Bro, they roster is pool and I ain't trying to discredit. None of the players better than me, but that roster compared to other teams rosters.

All right, that's what we're doing.

Hey, man, at that organization, I'm putting nothing competent behind him in the first couple of years.

Free him.

That's crazy when your second player is I'll see people almost forty. When your second best player is almost forty and your point guard, you ain't gonna.

Have you in trouble and see a legend.

He can go.

He all star, Hall of Famer, all that, but it's a lot of pressure to put on them. So for him to get them to the playoffs, you know he was special.

M hm do that ship?

He gets my vote. Hej jumped out with that one. I did.

I think he's about to really like take like the Bill outside sh over there, the real.

Didn't just all right, I start west Side, don't do it, bro.

I lost my dog so that in man, he got it. It's crazy, man. Obviously we've seen the Lakers ship.

I thought it was very fire to see bron and Bronney on stage like that, especially when they had the different camera angles at Bosten, New Jersey's like their names. That as far as fucks to me, the James and James ship, that's he man, I fuck with that moment. Even though it really don't feel like a lot of ways to other people. I fuck with that that nigga got. He accomplished everything he couldn't lead. I fuck with Broun. I fucked with the whole only thing I didn't feel I was, like he said when he was like five year fire, five years old, he's seen the nigga and was like, yeah, he going to the league. Like stop, I love y'all to death. Bro, I love your whole family, but bro, it's not good unless we get a good lebron.

What made what made that official for me? That statement? It's his son looking like oh ship.

Like Nigga would need the best on their team. Brownie's response was what did it for me?

Like?

This thing is.

You did the first time I care. You gonna put me in this.

Or give me some pre media training, nigga, know what you're gonna do, So I play off.

We used to play them like he was dead the last I see him grow as a player, and he came but like shepherding them used to destroy him for sure, But they had like what's the kid gave cup?

They had?

Yeah, I got the older nigga, Mike. He started sucking with him. I got the little dude that went to off the school to play.

They had that was in Chicago when they yeah, I mean not a big job, but yeah they had John too, But that was later on they had that was like seventh grade when he started starting a little notice. Yeah, now when he got the seventh eighth grade, all right, now, he would have said his June. If he would have been like seventh eighth grade, I've seen it, I would have been like, Okay, I feel that I feel but fifth like fire years.

No, no, no, that's cool man to you, Bro, I love that Lebron to give us a good life.

You know they're talking about that nigga. How that nigga be reading books? Have you ever seen that video of the nigga reading the book the fastest?

I promise, bro, Brock and not make this the fucking thumbnail.

They talking about. Matter in fact, you was victory.

Do not put Lebron thumbnail, bro, God damn.

We turned to the Brons, know like, we love Brown over here, but we ain't even to bro anybody. Yes, k't be every thumbnail, Bron, what man, we thought that that was gonna be on the show.

You niggas every thumbnail was bron Yeah. You know that should get wicked.

You know, I go yeah business and but we're gonna talk about my patients too. Hey shouts my boy. You know what I'm saying. After getting wicked in the dress shoes, this is when we need a bartender so I can take a break. Now I've seen him dressing. I had the dress shoes on. He all in on that ship. Yeah, wearing the church shoes him and uh, why would you do that?

Right?

Yeah?

Well yeah for different reasons. Okay, I'm just we about to get some Stacey Adams. Stacey Adams, that's crazy. Yeah, the Hero Pinner sponsorship, the kids, commercial banks, nigga. I mean he def be wearing the Soldier Boy dress sloves my boy being an AX.

That's crazy.

Funk with his movement though, Like I like, he got his own little vibe to him. He fit Indiana. That's the only place you can get that ship off. Real, we didn't brace ship like that. Niggas going to Soldier Boy tonight.

Bro So's gonna be in there with you.

The niggas gonna be tour now.

Respect my nigga, No, no disrespecting. But I'm just saying we embraced like big something to be on the internet.

I don't give a fuck. I sodier boy.

I'm just saying, like, got his boy go at these niggas. No niggas, y'all was at O kicking it. Now your claiming, now that's crazy.

Like I told you at that air, I with that.

I have big s T shirts some of the boys alleged. But but it's gonna be funny because he's not gonna be dressed like that. Nah, that nigga gonna have on the whole Gucci fit perform. Speaking of big T shirts, shout I forgot that name, but shoutself the clipping up you in the old school dis right in us.

C my boy out there in the three X table. I seen that I was busting.

Yeah, matter of fact, something talking about hooping, y'all niggas quit tagging me with the John Jackson that nigga can't play basketball. I don't respond to that kind of shit. That nigga's terrible basketball. I'm getting damned. I'm like, I know his shit crazy. Yeah, they can say something about de Sean Jackson, nigga. I tried to play him fifteen. What was that fifteen years ago.

Yeah, Josh tried to line that shit up. Nigga didn't want to play. That's what y'all not gonna clip. And that's what niggas didn't tell Liu and spank on the shows.

He's been dunking smoke for that long.

I mean shit.

He he just started talking shit, I can hoop, I can hoop.

I wasn't even there.

He was. He was at the Strip club like I can hoop.

My nigga, Smooth Funny as hell called me on the side, like, I'm gassing this, nigga. It's gonna be the easiest fifty K you ever made in your life. I'm a fronted. I'm gonna give you twenty five. I get twenty five, go to the gym. Who am about to play? Like football?

Nigga?

He said, put my clothes on, got in the car. He me back like, man, he's scared. He ain't gonna play scared. And I heard him just talking ship like man.

You scared. You ain't got the money? What's up?

What's up? He was like no, no, no.

Then Lou Lou was there. Lou caught me, was like, nah, I want them. Niggas told me that you really can hoop the nigga to know who you was. Nigga just talking.

Oh yeah, that's that's the real Put that on your ship.

He's just talking.

And then when I d M him, like you on bet? You know how Nigga tried to talk ship like yeah, what's up, nigga, I'll bust your ass. And I was like, all right, let's let's bet. Like you said you can beat me, let's bet money you can beat me. Then it went from beating me too, I.

Can score on you, Yeah, ship, nigga, I don't give a fuck about you scoring niggas. And Nigga never said that he can fuck with you on the football because I don't don't don't move the gold post fuck with d Jack. D jackas motherfucking legend in the NFL show. But niggas would just be getting out of pocket and getting sideways on this ship because he was out of pocket. And that all the niggas names you could call, You're gonna call it nigga, you know, but it makes sense.

They didn't make me mad that it made me laugh because the nigga sai, let's do it for content. That's when I was like, ah, do it for content.

Woe.

I said, do it for content. Yeah, he wanted you to do the flood man, Let's play for content. So you know, niggas too tapped in with that w W C W ship. He said, let's do it for content. Respect we do content ship. But now you you called my name like it was and I just my only thing is too, you know, and the football niggas they gonna talk that ship because they used to. It was just when he just used you as an example why he could play minutes in the NBA. Yeah, I'm sleep That's what I had me ted. I'm like, bro, yeah you get out of pocket.

Yeah, I'm probably not the best example for that. Shout out to my nigga little make it look like I ain't care, But niggas knew like I ain't doing that. That's why when I seen the highlight of North Carolina, like, nigga, you wouldn't have score of ten on North Carolina.

Locking that ship up, sweet, that's why I should like that. Just make me laugh.

But he'd be like cool, but in his respectful I mean his sport, he was called hell yeah, I won't really tell.

I see them.

Yeah, brolla nigga, Bro.

Maybe hello players. He was one of the best downfield. Yeah, he was like that for sure. I ain't really walked there and touchdown things about him though. One of the fastest niggas to ever grace that field. Yeahs out. But I gotta ask you know what I'm saying that that was your highes score game. What was your like best college game of your favorite college game? Uh, that was a cool game because of so many pros. Was on that team, Ed, David Tie, wayneer, Bro, Danny Green, they had I think uh Tyler Zeller was on the bench.

I think he was bro.

They had a bunch of pros on that team, so that was cool to play against them. But my my favorite game was probably Duke. My freshman year. We played Duke. They was number one in the country and we uh we were sad. We weren't sad, but we were ranked and we ended up beating them, and me and James both at twenty six. Damn I beat them at wait a wait and they rushed the floor. Sh That was like the first time that we got like some real recognition.

Oh yeah, that was that was hard. My nigga, James was motherfucking issue boy. Yeah, but that Duke team was nasty. Nolan the nigga. I really cal Cayle Singer is one of the greatest college basketball players I've seen, one hundred percent.

Unfortunately, I can take that testimony because what he did to us.

That at me, you know what I mean? Even when Bro killed U n c Wayne Ellington, was that nigga in college?

Bro, it's nice too, you want to Yeah, it was nice. That's what they were saying. They was just like, man, we lost that game, but I'm happy that season win any other way.

Dah.

Yeah, it was That year was a good year. I had a bunch of thirty point games that year. He played Jimmy for dead. He gave us thirty, but I had thirty.

And see niggas, That's what I'm saying, how this podcast, that's how crazy is this. Niggas really don't be tapped in the hoops. You don't talk about yourself. I get that, But the nigga. The a CC was tough, Bro cold, it was crazy. So you wasn't playing more fucking Shout out to niggas in the smaller conferences and ship but that was a big deal. The a CC was in the Big East, was the ship back when he was growing up.

That was some ship. But I ain't gonna lie her game. We played a program there. Somebody was going to the league, even like Virginia Tech. They beat us when we was number one of the country to have Malcolm Delaney. Yeah, yeah, that niggas talk ship to a shot at him though he could hoop, but it was about it.

He killed y'all.

I'm rogers had an attitude that game.

I think I still twenty seven or something like that, but damn now, I just had a because one time, like I wasn't shooting that game.

They thought it was point shaving. So I got called in the office for point shaping. Niggas called you blue chips because you went shoot the ball.

Yeah.

Our team was crazy, so we know, you know, we just be having attitudes people said I was. I was like on this thirty point run. I was getting thirty like every game, and I started getting segments where it was like Jeff t like on ESPN, it just be my name, like they was like Scott van Pelt, I'll never forget. Was like, this kid is crazy, Like you know what I mean. I was killing niggas went fucking with that ship.

Niggas like, you know what I mean.

The team niggas was with that came win thatigg they were fucking with that. I was like ship, so I just stopped shooting. You see how the temptation street to David Russells.

Yeah, and y'all know I wasn't one of them niggas that wanted to beat us.

I was just doing me.

I ain't really want that. I wanted to win and I wanted the guys like I wasn't thinking about the NBA. So it just became a thing and niggas was just they was off that.

That's when the team in chemistry just went downhill. Niggas was not trying to hop on that team. What about me?

It was crazy because that game shout to my nigga, Harvey, I had started hooping. I started playing nigga. We had a break and it was like he could have gave a ball to mir or James or something. This is how I knew our team was just getting sucked up. And he kept and got charged, like to decide the game, the ball gotta charge. And that's what it just with down hill.

It was just a bad day. Got a cracking bro paster that game was over. Bro, he just was sad. We was like nineteen or oh yeah, I was killing sum. It all makes sense.

Ship. Tell you how important that team locker room is, Bro, that ship matters.

I can't wait we had here we talk about that. Well, that ship was so funny, and we don't get James on this year.

He's doing enough for this podcast in a thirty minutes span anybody other guess is at in fact, what's so funny?

Though?

I laugh at the highlights of the USC because they were playing like LD like Trailing Hell, looking like.

JA and now it's a point guard. It's like older I was.

That's why I wanted to talk about that too, because as a point guard, when I got older, I realized, like what kind of player I was. I was fucked up, Like it's a lot of times like I could have threw lives to Alpha Rule, threw it behind me, they would have got a dunk and it probably would have rose the team chemistry. But I was such a score at that time that like I think, when I seen a bucket, I got a bucket. So when I get to the league, That's why I tell you, like, if you get handled the balls soon as you come in the league and people's careers could be different because I was such a bucket getter. If somebody would have gave me the ball as soon as I came from Raake Forest, I probably would have averaged eighteen or twenty points, you know what I mean as a rookie, because my mindset was so like that. But to get on the floor in the NBA, they tell me how to play defensive, run to the corner, and I just wanted to play. So after a while you kind of lose that. You just do whatever you can to stay on the floor, and you lose that killer instinct because Nigga I was in college. Oh my god. Yeah, I try to score on anybody. I thought I was the best scorer in the world. Like when I first got to the league, I used to play this shit is so easy wood he killed me.

You weren't blessed like dang nah, none of them, like you.

Said, the new guards, they get the keys to the kingdom now. Yeah, yeah, for sure, it's your drop the fuck up for three years.

Yeah for sure. I wish I would have had that opportunity with that mindset, Like I mean my NBA.

Yeah, you had a great career for short, bro, But sure you would be a different nigga.

If they would have gave me the ball and let me say, look, just do do what you did, Max deal tig man. What because I I didn't even have a conscience. Bro y'all said, I was pulling threes on fast break. That ship was so funny because I was like, I ain't even no, no, I was pulling the threes on I had. I didn't have a conscience. Say when you shot that nothing. I used to make it all the time, like forty something from three fifty from the field. I used to have really miss. My confidence was so high. But when you got to the league, what he just took all that shit like.

Transition. Well, bro, I'm sure that was hard for you to do it, but shit, niggas ain't able to do that shit.

I I was like, this ship is ass nigga right to the corner passing the ball.

And then when they said you can get this amount of money if you do this, that's what fucked me up, Like it was all you all we need you to do is average this and this and you can get that. And then I started playing the numbers game. It wasn't more like the love I want to kill. It was like they said fourteen and five fourteen I got fourteen five?

We won, you know what I mean? Instead like, but that's the kind of you know, you had all the people on our team. It's cool.

It made it work.

Whatever, Sure, hell of a break down the basketball. Let niggas know they can't play with your night man, get well soon.

Big picture of this is, don't bet in two thousand and eight, in two thousand and nine, if you're a point guard, don't great.

If you got some more killers on your team, let the killers eat man. Not finishing three on one by yourself, bro.

Absolutely, if you are l d or Harvey nigga on team.

Fun man, that was what it was so crazy, like you can team it's full stride and look I did a. I did a double clutch lay up one time, a difficult ass layup.

I could have just laid it off to a nigga.

I did a.

That's how it's like, yeah, held them. Oh I should have been a better tea. I wouldn't. I wasn't a point guard. It was it was the point guard I was. It was Yeah, I was the two they told me shout for whole ship. Damn man, be in that solid locker room. Martin Luther King in the lock would do that live. They told me, get buckets man, it's a good nigga. Like you said in North scot I wasn't even talking about throwing. I put a shot that lay facts. So I had to ask this who. We had a project Pack conversation a couple. You know what I'm saying, episodes back, y'all out of pocket. My boy just got our dag. He's an official minister, now, you know what I'm saying. Be here he looking for a church drummer. You pull up for sure.

You know.

I'm big on project pat you know what I mean, Like, Nah, we're gonna do it. Because you get cleaned up, you're able to do it. Bro, It's okay, Bro. He's probably gonna slow walk him into church. He ain't getting up there and getting the clowning, you know what I mean, He ain't got that tail yet.

So but if he just walk, if he decides on Sunday morning that he wants, you know what I'm saying, have cheese discernment, then I'm in.

I'm going to transfer portal churches.

And I think he's more like to me, preachers are supposed to be for real motivational speakers. He didn't been through so much, bro. I feel like he's the my face talking this and that. Yeah, how to handle holds everything, bro.

Clean, But.

They got no deep issue you had calling chicks.

They just don't know what you're talking about it.

I got a back and forth conversation with a lady on the song and it's a bot Oh god hard, you know what I mean? So shouts the project man. Slow walk into that ministry. Bro, that's tough. You entered in a different lane, my boy, they can walk in clean bro. A J.

Griffin Yeah, A J. Griffin said, we didn't know why he was that boy from basketball lady. You know what I'm saying.

Thank God. I thought it was some hell shit. That's cool.

Yeah, yeah, the temptation of that life. He wasn't feeling it, and he was like, you want to be with God boy. I respect that, Like you said, I obviously as when we see stuff like that we think watchcare scenario unfortunately, but I was relieved, you know what I'm saying, that reason rather than something else. So yeah, I mean my thing was like, I mean, if he wanted to go be a pastor or whatever. But my thing was like, damn, you can still have that kind of faith and do all that and still play basketball.

Yeah what said he was here in Atlanta. My boy said he couldn't win that battle.

Bro. He could have, though, I mean, ain't strong enough.

Bro.

I think I think it's a culture thing. I think because it's expectations. When you black and you play basketball, people will assume that you're gonna live this kind of lifestyle because none of our white counterparts that who nobody say that about them like they live bit easy going out. Watched Kyle Korver go to church, read his bible, do all that stuff and just be solid.

Fair to what you're saying though, bro, but everybody discipline is different though.

No, I'm not saying ain't. But if you want to be a pastor, you got some discipline, mo. Man, Like it's Mark Jackson said, I don't want to go that route. Yeah, but what I'm saying it just it just depends, though, Bro. I'm not just because you want to be a pastor because a lot of them motherfuckers is filthy. A lot of these niggas is counting. That's that's my that's my whole point, just because you're going in there. But I think people forget the sport of basketball. You still, this is a sport you're able to do some of you love. I ain't saying that you can't. You don't be a pastor and do that. It's just a sport. People put the other stuff on it.

Like most of them probably was hooping, Bro, you good, what position most power for?

He said?

Good picks?

Motherfucker screen and wrong.

He said.

He definitely said the good screen. You're me so and I agree with Jeff, I mean, you can't.

But he was probably like, this ship too much. I gotta step away because what comes with being a professional athlete living in the land.

He probably like, damn no, I get it. I understand the temptation. It got me a couple of times. But what I'm saying is like, if you're going to be a pastor, you're discipline gonna be different anyway, you know what I mean. And if you're really good at playing basketball and something you truly enjoy. I'm sure he truly enjoys sooping. I'm sure he's probably still gonna hoop and rec leagues or whatever. But like, damn, don't give up the dream like and you can still do both. I feel like you could have.

Did both, and you're a decent player, bro.

Ship, But ain't no telling them. He might need to step away from some time to get that in order.

Then he might come back. Like you said, you're thinking when you step away.

So gona be with the lord. Bro what John Morn says, stay over there?

You coming like?

No, like Jesus, you know, I'm a man. I'm just saying, friend stepped it, Bro, stay over there. Shout to John Ray.

My boy had to go.

It's up Griffin, ain't Jordan. Bro, you can't leave and come back. Bro, figure out if that really was for you.

Man, you can't make that thing that's over with, not in the league, you can't make it. Bro.

Damn man, that's crazy to get Wilson with a j man. Listen, man, we love y'all about to get up out of here and be here. Tell people the grass some march at shop Club five twenty dot com. Baby, we out of here. The volume