Can You Really Teach Your Kids to Study the Bible—If You Don’t Feel Confident Yourself? The “Step by Step” Method to a Lifetime of Scripture Confidence

For generations, Christian parents have been told to center their homes and hearts on God’s Word, yet few have ever been taught how to truly study it—let alone guide their children to do the same. If you’ve ever felt insecure, intimidated, or unqualified when opening your Bible, this episode is for you.

Join host Catherine and special guest Angie Baughman, founder of Steady On Ministries and developer of the Step by Step Bible Study Method, as they offer an empowering, conversation-driven crash course on making Bible study accessible, life-giving, and transformational for the whole family—from toddlers to teens and beyond.

Meet the Guest: Angie Baughman


Angie Baughman is a lifelong Bible teacher and the founder of Steady On Ministries, an organization passionate about rooting believers—especially parents—in the practical skills needed to stay anchored in God’s Word.


With over 28 years of ministry, a powerful personal testimony, and tools used by everyone from school children to inmates, Angie created the Step by Step Bible Study Method to break down barriers and open Scripture to all experience levels.

Highlights from This Episode


Why So Many Christians Feel Insecure About Bible Study
Angie and Catherine discuss the lack of mentorship in church culture, the intimidation factor of unfamiliar terms, and the universal fear of “looking stupid,” even among lifelong believers 07:02.


The Power of Slowing Down
Through vulnerable stories, the hosts reveal how shame and insecurity can keep women (and men) silent—and how authentic community and gentle tools provide an accessible on-ramp for everyone, including the “Tracys” in our Bible studies 08:47.


A Practical Walkthrough—Step by Step
Angie unveils her 5-step study method, combining word study, translation comparison, biblical context, enemy-lie discernment, and personal application—transforming even a single verse into spiritual nourishment lasting all day 17:54.


Real-Life Application
In a powerful demonstration, Catherine shares how a familiar verse (Psalm 40:2) deepened through the method, revealing unexpected layers (did you know “rock” can mean “fortress”?) and helping her battle anxiety and pray more purposefully for her children 29:38.


Equipping the Next Generation
Detailed guidance on using the method with kids of all ages, from letting them pick words to discovering the lies of the enemy—a perfect fit for family devotions, homeschool routines, or real-life spiritual conversations 46:15.


Accessible Resources for All
Details on free step-by-step kits, family tools, and online communities so that every parent—no matter their background—can confidently open God’s Word and invite their children into the adventure.

Standout Quote

“Pastors and Bible teachers can share what the Holy Spirit said to them. But they cannot tell us what the Holy Spirit says to us when we study. That’s why it’s so important for us to have the skills to go into the Word on our own.” — Angie

Key Takeaway

No matter your past, education, or current insecurity, you can confidently unlock the treasures of Scripture—for yourself and your children. It doesn’t require expertise—just willingness, a doable method, and the expectation that the Holy Spirit will meet you—and your family—right where you are.

Why This Matters

In a culture obsessed with spiritual shortcuts and superficial understanding, Christian parents face a vital task: not just filling minds with Bible facts, but modeling for their families how to slow down, ask questions, and hear directly from God’s Word. The “Step by Step” approach isn’t just another study method—it’s an invitation into deeper relationship, radical honesty, and intergenerational faith that flourishes through every season.

Episode Links


Steady On Ministries & Free Bible Study Starter Kit:livesteadyon.com


Angie Baughman’s Step by Step Family Kit & more: Steady On Ministries (see “Free Resources” tab)
Catherine’s Parenting Resources:https://catherinesegars.com/resources

Call to Action

Christian parents, what’s keeping you from digging into God’s Word alongside your kids? What might change—for you and your children—if you stepped onto the “on ramp” and discovered the richness of Scripture one word at a time?

Share your story or your next step with us using #ChristianParentCrazyWorld, and consider inviting your children to join you in the adventure of discovering God’s Word—step by step.

Can You Really Teach Your Kids to Study the Bible&mdash;If You Don&rsquo;t Feel Confident Yourself? The &ldquo;Step by Step&rdquo; Method to a Lifetime of Scripture Confidence
For generations, Christian parents have been told to center their homes and hearts on God&rsquo;s Word, yet few have ever been taught how to truly study it&mdash;let alone guide their children to do the same. If you&rsquo;ve ever felt insecure, intimidated, or unqualified when opening your Bible, this episode is for you.
Join host Catherine and special guest Angie Baughman, founder of Steady On Ministries and developer of the Step by Step Bible Study Method, as they offer an empowering, conversation-driven crash course on making Bible study accessible, life-giving, and transformational for the whole family&mdash;from toddlers to teens and beyond.
<hr>
Meet the Guest: Angie Baughman
<ul>
<li>
Angie Baughman is a lifelong Bible teacher and the founder of Steady On Ministries, an organization passionate about rooting believers&mdash;especially parents&mdash;in the practical skills needed to stay anchored in God&rsquo;s Word.
</li>
<li>
With over 28 years of ministry, a powerful personal testimony, and tools used by everyone from school children to inmates, Angie created the Step by Step Bible Study Method to break down barriers and open Scripture to all experience levels.
</li>
</ul>
<hr>
Highlights from This Episode
<ul>
<li>
Why So Many Christians Feel Insecure About Bible Study Angie and Catherine discuss the lack of mentorship in church culture, the intimidation factor of unfamiliar terms, and the universal fear of &ldquo;looking stupid,&rdquo; even among lifelong believers 07:02.
</li>
<li>
The Power of Slowing Down Through vulnerable stories, the hosts reveal how shame and insecurity can keep women (and men) silent&mdash;and how authentic community and gentle tools provide an accessible on-ramp for everyone, including the &ldquo;Tracys&rdquo; in our Bible studies 08:47.
</li>
<li>
A Practical Walkthrough&mdash;Step by Step Angie unveils her 5-step study method, combining word study, translation comparison, biblical context, enemy-lie discernment, and personal application&mdash;transforming even a single verse into spiritual nourishment lasting all day 17:54.
</li>
<li>
Real-Life Application In a powerful demonstration, Catherine shares how a familiar verse (Psalm 40:2) deepened through the method, revealing unexpected layers (did you know &ldquo;rock&rdquo; can mean &ldquo;fortress&rdquo;?) and helping her battle anxiety and pray more purposefully for her children 29:38.
</li>
<li>
Equipping the Next Generation Detailed guidance on using the method with kids of all ages, from letting them pick words to discovering the lies of the enemy&mdash;a perfect fit for family devotions, homeschool routines, or real-life spiritual conversations 46:15.
</li>
<li>
Accessible Resources for All Details on free step-by-step kits, family tools, and online communities so that every parent&mdash;no matter their background&mdash;can confidently open God&rsquo;s Word and invite their children into the adventure.
</li>
</ul>
<hr>
Standout Quote
<blockquote>
&ldquo;Pastors and Bible teachers can share what the Holy Spirit said to them. But they cannot tell us what the Holy Spirit says to us when we study. That&rsquo;s why it&rsquo;s so important for us to have the skills to go into the Word on our own.&rdquo; &mdash; Angie
</blockquote>
<hr>
Key Takeaway
No matter your past, education, or current insecurity, you can confidently unlock the treasures of Scripture&mdash;for yourself and your children. It doesn&rsquo;t require expertise&mdash;just willingness, a doable method, and the expectation that the Holy Spirit will meet you&mdash;and your family&mdash;right where you are.
<hr>
Why This Matters
In a culture obsessed with spiritual shortcuts and superficial understanding, Christian parents face a vital task: not just filling minds with Bible facts, but modeling for their families how to slow down, ask questions, and hear directly from God&rsquo;s Word. The &ldquo;Step by Step&rdquo; approach isn&rsquo;t just another study method&mdash;it&rsquo;s an invitation into deeper relationship, radical honesty, and intergenerational faith that flourishes through every season.
<hr>
Episode Links
<ul>
<li>
Steady On Ministries &amp; Free Bible Study Starter Kit: <a href="https://livesteadyon.com">livesteadyon.com</a>
</li>
<li>
Angie Baughman&rsquo;s Step by Step Family Kit &amp; more: Steady On Ministries (see &ldquo;Free Resources&rdquo; tab)
</li>
<li>Catherine&rsquo;s Parenting Resources: <a href="https://catherinesegars.com/resources">https://catherinesegars.com/resources</a></li>
</ul>
<hr>
Call to Action
Christian parents, what&rsquo;s keeping you from digging into God&rsquo;s Word alongside your kids? What might change&mdash;for you and your children&mdash;if you stepped onto the &ldquo;on ramp&rdquo; and discovered the richness of Scripture one word at a time?
Share your story or your next step with us using #ChristianParentCrazyWorld, and consider inviting your children to join you in the adventure of discovering God&rsquo;s Word&mdash;step by step.

How to Study the Bible: A Simple Method That Works (w/ Angie Baughman)  - Ep. 195

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What if your child’s screen time could help them meet Jesus, shape their character, and spark conversations that last a lifetime?

In a culture overflowing with children’s entertainment, how can Christian parents find programming that does more than distract or “babysit”? In this compelling episode of Christian Parent/Crazy World, Catherine sits down with Jess Wolstenholm, Vice President of Education & Publishing at Minno and editor of the award-winning Laugh and Grow Bible for Kids. With over 25 years of children’s ministry leadership and deep roots in curriculum development, Jess Wolstenholm brings powerful insights into how media can nourish—not just occupy—our children’s souls.

What You’ll Discover in This Episode:


A Better Media Diet for Kids
Why “just clean” isn’t enough. Catherine and Jess break down the difference between spiritually “nutritious” content and empty-calorie screen time. They challenge parents to curate what their children watch, seeking stories that reinforce godly character and biblical truth rather than just avoid harm.


Faith Formation through Storytelling
Discover how a child’s earliest glimpses of God shape their faith journey, and why representing God’s character—holy, loving, nurturing, and present—is essential from the very start. Jess Wolstenholm shares how programming choices directly impact a child’s understanding of God, values, and themselves.


Representation Matters—Even for Young Faith
“There’s not enough representation of faith on screen for kids.” Hear how Minno creates and curates media—like the innovative Young David shorts—that let children see relatable, not cheesy, portrayals of Christian life. Find out why seeing faith lived out on screen can be just as important as hearing Bible stories.


Old Treasures, New Purpose
Relive childhood favorites like VeggieTales and discover impactful series like Torchlighters: Heroes of the Faith and Liberty’s Kids—all available on Minno. Whether it's vintage animation or state-of-the-art storytelling, these programs offer rich entry points for conversations about faith, history, and courage.


Tools for Intentional Parenting
Learn how to turn media moments into meaningful faith conversations. From five-minute family devotionals to printable discussion guides and screen-free audio options, Jess Wolstenholm shares practical ways for parents to build on what their children watch—even when life gets busy.

“We want kids to get to know the character of God—not just as a rule-keeper, but as a creator who delights in them.” – Jess Wolstenholm


What Sets Minno Apart
Find out how Minno’s holistic, on-screen/off-screen approach (think: devotionals, conversation guides, coloring pages, and audio stories) is designed to support busy Christian parents and equip the next generation for a resilient, relational faith.


A Hopeful Vision for Gen Alpha
Jess Wolstenholm shares her dream for the next generation: that children would “know Jesus and understand His word,” not through shame or rule-keeping, but with a healthy, balanced grasp of gospel truth and the goodness of God.

Notable Moments:


The surprising connection between the word “Minno” and abiding in Christ.


How “vintage” content like Torchlighters and Liberty’s Kids help children step outside the “first world bubble” and see global faith and history.


Simple questions parents can ask after screen time to spark deep, everyday discipleship.

Why This Matters:
Your child’s view of God, their character, and their choices are being shaped by what fills their hearts and minds each day. What if the shows they watch could help you disciple them, not just distract them?

Modern Application:
Let’s intentionally leverage media as a springboard for spiritual formation. Whether you find a new family devotional routine or simply ask one more question at the dinner table, these conversations could echo for years.

About the Guest:
Jess Wolstenholm is Vice President of Education & Publishing at Minno, editor and executive producer of the Laugh and Grow Bible for Kids, and a seasoned leader in children’s ministry and publishing. She is passionate about equipping Christian families to nurture healthy, lifelong faith.

Ready to turn your child’s screen time into soul time? What steps can you take this week to make sure the shows your kids watch are helping them experience Jesus—every single day? Dive into this episode and discover resources that could transform your family’s faith journey.

Episode Links & Resources


Minno Streaming Platform (Try Free!)


Featured Series: Laugh and Grow Bible for Kids, Torchlighters: Heroes of the Faith, Young David


Bonus: Free 7-day trial and downloadable devotionals for families
Catherine Segars Resources

Listen, reflect, and join the conversation—because Christian parenting may be crazy, but you don’t have to do it alone.

What if your child&rsquo;s screen time could help them meet Jesus, shape their character, and spark conversations that last a lifetime?
In a culture overflowing with children&rsquo;s entertainment, how can Christian parents find programming that does more than distract or &ldquo;babysit&rdquo;? In this compelling episode of Christian Parent/Crazy World, Catherine sits down with Jess Wolstenholm, Vice President of Education &amp; Publishing at Minno and editor of the award-winning Laugh and Grow Bible for Kids. With over 25 years of children&rsquo;s ministry leadership and deep roots in curriculum development, Jess Wolstenholm brings powerful insights into how media can nourish&mdash;not just occupy&mdash;our children&rsquo;s souls.
What You&rsquo;ll Discover in This Episode:
<ul>
<li>
A Better Media Diet for Kids Why &ldquo;just clean&rdquo; isn&rsquo;t enough. Catherine and Jess break down the difference between spiritually &ldquo;nutritious&rdquo; content and empty-calorie screen time. They challenge parents to curate what their children watch, seeking stories that reinforce godly character and biblical truth rather than just avoid harm.
</li>
<li>
Faith Formation through Storytelling Discover how a child&rsquo;s earliest glimpses of God shape their faith journey, and why representing God&rsquo;s character&mdash;holy, loving, nurturing, and present&mdash;is essential from the very start. Jess Wolstenholm shares how programming choices directly impact a child&rsquo;s understanding of God, values, and themselves.
</li>
<li>
Representation Matters&mdash;Even for Young Faith &ldquo;There&rsquo;s not enough representation of faith on screen for kids.&rdquo; Hear how Minno creates and curates media&mdash;like the innovative Young David shorts&mdash;that let children see relatable, not cheesy, portrayals of Christian life. Find out why seeing faith lived out on screen can be just as important as hearing Bible stories.
</li>
<li>
Old Treasures, New Purpose Relive childhood favorites like VeggieTales and discover impactful series like Torchlighters: Heroes of the Faith and Liberty&rsquo;s Kids&mdash;all available on Minno. Whether it's vintage animation or state-of-the-art storytelling, these programs offer rich entry points for conversations about faith, history, and courage.
</li>
<li>
Tools for Intentional Parenting Learn how to turn media moments into meaningful faith conversations. From five-minute family devotionals to printable discussion guides and screen-free audio options, Jess Wolstenholm shares practical ways for parents to build on what their children watch&mdash;even when life gets busy.
</li>
</ul>
<blockquote>
&ldquo;We want kids to get to know the character of God&mdash;not just as a rule-keeper, but as a creator who delights in them.&rdquo; &ndash; Jess Wolstenholm
</blockquote>
<ul>
<li>
What Sets Minno Apart Find out how Minno&rsquo;s holistic, on-screen/off-screen approach (think: devotionals, conversation guides, coloring pages, and audio stories) is designed to support busy Christian parents and equip the next generation for a resilient, relational faith.
</li>
<li>
A Hopeful Vision for Gen Alpha Jess Wolstenholm shares her dream for the next generation: that children would &ldquo;know Jesus and understand His word,&rdquo; not through shame or rule-keeping, but with a healthy, balanced grasp of gospel truth and the goodness of God.
</li>
</ul>
Notable Moments:
<ul>
<li>
The surprising connection between the word &ldquo;Minno&rdquo; and abiding in Christ.
</li>
<li>
How &ldquo;vintage&rdquo; content like Torchlighters and Liberty&rsquo;s Kids help children step outside the &ldquo;first world bubble&rdquo; and see global faith and history.
</li>
<li>
Simple questions parents can ask after screen time to spark deep, everyday discipleship.
</li>
</ul>
Why This Matters: Your child&rsquo;s view of God, their character, and their choices are being shaped by what fills their hearts and minds each day. What if the shows they watch could help you disciple them, not just distract them?
Modern Application: Let&rsquo;s intentionally leverage media as a springboard for spiritual formation. Whether you find a new family devotional routine or simply ask one more question at the dinner table, these conversations could echo for years.
About the Guest: Jess Wolstenholm is Vice President of Education &amp; Publishing at Minno, editor and executive producer of the Laugh and Grow Bible for Kids, and a seasoned leader in children&rsquo;s ministry and publishing. She is passionate about equipping Christian families to nurture healthy, lifelong faith.
<hr>
Ready to turn your child&rsquo;s screen time into soul time? What steps can you take this week to make sure the shows your kids watch are helping them experience Jesus&mdash;every single day? Dive into this episode and discover resources that could transform your family&rsquo;s faith journey.
<hr>
Episode Links &amp; Resources
<ul>
<li>
<a href="https://gominno.com">Minno Streaming Platform (Try Free!)</a>
</li>
<li>
Featured Series: Laugh and Grow Bible for Kids, Torchlighters: Heroes of the Faith, Young David
</li>
<li>
Bonus: <a href="https://catherinesegars.com/resources">Free 7-day trial</a> and downloadable devotionals for families
</li>
<li><a href="https://catherinesegars.com/resources">Catherine Segars Resources</a></li>
</ul>
Listen, reflect, and join the conversation&mdash;because Christian parenting may be crazy, but you don&rsquo;t have to do it alone.

Choosing Entertainment That Builds Your Child's Faith (w/ Jess Wolstenholm) - Ep. 194

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What if the core purpose of your parenting isn’t what you’ve always believed? In a world obsessed with outcomes and control, Christian parents are challenged to embrace a radical shift: letting go of ownership and stepping into the liberating role of an ambassador for Christ in their children’s lives.

In this transformative episode of Christian Parent/Crazy World, host Catherine welcomes Candace Nassar, founder and executive director of MomQ, a mentor-led discipleship ministry designed to equip Christian mothers with biblical wisdom for every season. Drawing from her own journey from a secular background to devoted Christ-follower, Candace Nassar offers authentic insight and practical encouragement, inviting parents to rethink how—and why—they parent.

What You’ll Discover in This Episode:

Redefining the Mission: Purposeful Parenting


Why it’s easy to skip over the “why” of parenting and focus on performance or success (00:22)


The critical distinction between “ownership parenting” and “ambassador parenting”—and how this shift can transform your family (02:06, 25:56)

A Testimony of Transformation


Candace Nassar’s powerful story: from a broken home and secular ambitions to surrendering everything for Christ and discovering her true identity as a mother (04:49, 13:04)


The generational impact when one mother bravely says “yes” to God

Cultural Pressure & Parental Stress—Setting a New Foundation


Why our culture pushes parents to control, manage, and perform—and how this leads to overwhelming stress, anxiety, and fear (19:36)


How social media and comparison culture fuel burnout and feelings of inadequacy

Trust vs. Control: Finding Freedom


“Control is what I tend to when I’m struggling to trust.” How to spot control creeping into your parenting, even in well-intentioned moments (29:41)


Practical red flags: When anxiety spikes, it may be a sign you’re crossing the line into ownership (39:01)

Ambassador Parenting: The Heart of Christ at Home


Candace Nassar shares how parenting as Christ’s ambassador reframes discipline, discipleship, and daily rhythms (41:32)


“Gentle firmness”: Rejecting harsh authoritarianism and passive permissiveness by modeling the compassion and boundaries of Jesus (46:45)


Infusing faith into the ordinary—dinnertime reflections, spontaneous prayers, and seeing God in daily moments (48:56)

Moving Forward: Grace and Growth


Step-by-step guidance for moms convicted by ownership parenting—beginning with honest reflection and a prayer: “Lord, search my heart. Show me where I’m trying to control, and help me trust you more.” (52:05)


Key takeaway: The ultimate goal is not to raise successful children, but kingdom-minded disciples who love and serve the Lord (55:21)

Standout Quotes:


“If we get the foundation wrong, even with the best intentions, we can end up striving for outcomes that were never ours to control.” — Catherine


“When we realize our children aren’t ours to own but to steward for God, it changes everything.” — Candace Nassar


“Control is an illusion. If we can’t trust God with our kids, parenting becomes exhausting.” — Candace Nassar

About the Guest:
Candace Nassar is the founder and executive director of MomQ and a passionate mentor to Christian moms nationwide. With a background in business and education, and extensive ministry experience, she helps mothers move from striving and self-reliance to purpose and grace-grounded parenting. Learn more about MomQ’s curriculum and resources at momq.org.

Why This Matters:
In a culture that judges parents by their children’s achievements, our faith calls moms and dads to trade anxiety and control for the freedom and fruitfulness of ambassador parenting—reflecting the heart of Christ at home.

Modern Application:
Parents, where are you tempted to “own” your children’s path, and where could you invite God’s grace to take the lead? Get candid, reflect honestly, and begin the journey from anxiety to trust today.

EPISODE LINKS:


MomQ, Biblical Wisdom for Christian Moms


MomQ Podcast (available on all major platforms)

Call to Action:
How might your relationship with your child—and with God—change if you made the daily choice to become His ambassador instead of their owner? Share your thoughts, questions, or breakthroughs with us by tagging #ChristianParentCrazyWorld on social media. Tune in, reflect, and step into this new, freeing vision of parenting today.

What if the core purpose of your parenting isn&rsquo;t what you&rsquo;ve always believed? In a world obsessed with outcomes and control, Christian parents are challenged to embrace a radical shift: letting go of ownership and stepping into the liberating role of an ambassador for Christ in their children&rsquo;s lives.
In this transformative episode of Christian Parent/Crazy World, host Catherine welcomes Candace Nassar, founder and executive director of MomQ, a mentor-led discipleship ministry designed to equip Christian mothers with biblical wisdom for every season. Drawing from her own journey from a secular background to devoted Christ-follower, Candace Nassar offers authentic insight and practical encouragement, inviting parents to rethink how&mdash;and why&mdash;they parent.
What You&rsquo;ll Discover in This Episode:
Redefining the Mission: Purposeful Parenting
<ul>
<li>
Why it&rsquo;s easy to skip over the &ldquo;why&rdquo; of parenting and focus on performance or success (00:22)
</li>
<li>
The critical distinction between &ldquo;ownership parenting&rdquo; and &ldquo;ambassador parenting&rdquo;&mdash;and how this shift can transform your family (02:06, 25:56)
</li>
</ul>
A Testimony of Transformation
<ul>
<li>
Candace Nassar&rsquo;s powerful story: from a broken home and secular ambitions to surrendering everything for Christ and discovering her true identity as a mother (04:49, 13:04)
</li>
<li>
The generational impact when one mother bravely says &ldquo;yes&rdquo; to God
</li>
</ul>
Cultural Pressure &amp; Parental Stress&mdash;Setting a New Foundation
<ul>
<li>
Why our culture pushes parents to control, manage, and perform&mdash;and how this leads to overwhelming stress, anxiety, and fear (19:36)
</li>
<li>
How social media and comparison culture fuel burnout and feelings of inadequacy
</li>
</ul>
Trust vs. Control: Finding Freedom
<ul>
<li>
&ldquo;Control is what I tend to when I&rsquo;m struggling to trust.&rdquo; How to spot control creeping into your parenting, even in well-intentioned moments (29:41)
</li>
<li>
Practical red flags: When anxiety spikes, it may be a sign you&rsquo;re crossing the line into ownership (39:01)
</li>
</ul>
Ambassador Parenting: The Heart of Christ at Home
<ul>
<li>
Candace Nassar shares how parenting as Christ&rsquo;s ambassador reframes discipline, discipleship, and daily rhythms (41:32)
</li>
<li>
&ldquo;Gentle firmness&rdquo;: Rejecting harsh authoritarianism and passive permissiveness by modeling the compassion and boundaries of Jesus (46:45)
</li>
<li>
Infusing faith into the ordinary&mdash;dinnertime reflections, spontaneous prayers, and seeing God in daily moments (48:56)
</li>
</ul>
Moving Forward: Grace and Growth
<ul>
<li>
Step-by-step guidance for moms convicted by ownership parenting&mdash;beginning with honest reflection and a prayer: &ldquo;Lord, search my heart. Show me where I&rsquo;m trying to control, and help me trust you more.&rdquo; (52:05)
</li>
<li>
Key takeaway: The ultimate goal is not to raise successful children, but kingdom-minded disciples who love and serve the Lord (55:21)
</li>
</ul>
Standout Quotes:
<ul>
<li>
&ldquo;If we get the foundation wrong, even with the best intentions, we can end up striving for outcomes that were never ours to control.&rdquo; &mdash; Catherine
</li>
<li>
&ldquo;When we realize our children aren&rsquo;t ours to own but to steward for God, it changes everything.&rdquo; &mdash; Candace Nassar
</li>
<li>
&ldquo;Control is an illusion. If we can&rsquo;t trust God with our kids, parenting becomes exhausting.&rdquo; &mdash; Candace Nassar
</li>
</ul>
About the Guest: Candace Nassar is the founder and executive director of MomQ and a passionate mentor to Christian moms nationwide. With a background in business and education, and extensive ministry experience, she helps mothers move from striving and self-reliance to purpose and grace-grounded parenting. Learn more about MomQ&rsquo;s curriculum and resources at <a href="https://momq.org">momq.org</a>.
Why This Matters: In a culture that judges parents by their children&rsquo;s achievements, our faith calls&nbsp;moms and dads to trade anxiety and control for the freedom and fruitfulness of ambassador parenting&mdash;reflecting the heart of Christ at home.
Modern Application: Parents, where are you tempted to &ldquo;own&rdquo; your children&rsquo;s path, and where could you invite God&rsquo;s grace to take the lead? Get candid, reflect honestly, and begin the journey from anxiety to trust today.
EPISODE LINKS:
<ul>
<li>
<a href="https://momq.org">MomQ, Biblical Wisdom for Christian Moms</a>
</li>
<li>
<a href="https://momq.org/christian-mom-podcasts/">MomQ Podcast</a> (available on all major platforms)
</li>
</ul>
Call to Action: How might your relationship with your child&mdash;and with God&mdash;change if you made the daily choice to become His ambassador instead of their owner? Share your thoughts, questions, or breakthroughs with us by tagging #ChristianParentCrazyWorld on social media. Tune in, reflect, and step into this new, freeing vision of parenting today.

Has Culture Hijacked the Purpose of Our Parenting? (w/ Candace Nassar) - Ep. 193

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Teen suicide is a subject no parent ever wants to face—but in today’s world, it’s a crisis that cannot be ignored. In this heartrending and hope-filled "Best Of" episode, Catherine sits down with featured guest Emma Benoit, a vibrant young woman whose hidden battle with anxiety led to a suicide attempt that changed her life forever, and with expert guest Jennifer Ellers, a Christian counselor and crisis responder specializing in youth suicide prevention.

Host Catherine brings listeners a gripping and candid conversation about the epidemic of teen suicide—a tragedy impacting families in every community. With staggering statistics showing suicide as the second leading cause of death among young people, the need for awareness and action has never been greater.

Special Guests:


Emma Benoit: Once a vibrant, high-achieving varsity cheerleader, Emma survived a self-inflicted gunshot wound at 16. Paralyzed from the waist down, Emma has transformed her pain into purpose, becoming a passionate advocate for mental health and suicide prevention.


Jennifer Ellers: Christian counselor, crisis responder, trainer, and author specializing in youth suicide prevention. Jennifer’s insights bridge clinical expertise with faith-based hope.

What You’ll Discover in This Episode:

Emma’s Hidden Battle
Hear Emma Benoit candidly recount how crippling anxiety and private pain led her to the brink—while outwardly, no one suspected she was suffering. “No one knew...because I was ashamed of it,” she shares, highlighting the dangerous power of stigma and secrecy (08:17).

Warning Signs & Early Intervention
Jennifer Ellers unpacks what every parent needs to know: the evolving age of onset (with cases now seen as young as six years old!), the often-masked signs of distress, and why honest, nonjudgmental conversations are the most important tool parents possess (10:12).

The Seductive Lie of Suicide
Both Emma Benoit and the experts stress that “no one wants to end their life—they want to end their pain.” The moment after her attempt, Emma was flooded with regret—a pattern echoed by many survivors. Suicide is rarely about death, but the desperate desire for relief (22:31).

The Spiritual Battle Beneath the Surface
Catherine, Emma Benoit, and Jennifer Ellers break the silence on the spiritual warfare at play—how despair is more than physical or emotional, but a real assault on hope itself. “You won’t convince me there’s not a spiritual component… that voice, that seduction, I absolutely believe is Satan,” Jennifer Ellers declares (34:56).

Hope, Healing, and Taking Action
This episode is not just a call to awareness—it’s a message of hope. Emma’s road to recovery, both physically and spiritually, is nothing short of miraculous. She offers a lifeline to every young person listening: “It’s okay to feel that way. Just hang in there. It gets better, and hope is so real” (40:34).

Practical Guidance for Parents:


Ask the uncomfortable questions, openly and directly.


Cultivate an environment where feelings are named and normalized.


Treat mental health as a body, mind, AND spirit issue—seek help, including professional and faith-based support.


If there is a threat of harm, remove potential means and seek immediate intervention.

Notable Moments:

“Death isn’t what [the suicidal] are after—it’s the escape from the turmoil and pain.” – Emma Benoit
“It’s a mind, body, spirit issue. If you leave out any one aspect, you’re not treating the whole person.” – Jennifer Ellers
“God has a plan to deliver everyone. We have to submit to His prescription, whatever that means.” – Catherine

About the Guests:
Emma Benoit shares her story widely through My Ascension, a documentary shown in schools and communities across the country. Jennifer Ellers is a leader in Christian counseling and crisis intervention, affiliated with the American Association of Christian Counselors.

Connect & Resources:


Learn more about Emma’s mission and the My Ascension film: myascension.us


Find counseling and suicide prevention resources: aacc.net


In a crisis? Call or text 988 for immediate help.
List of Scriptures to pray over those struggling with mental illness: Catherine's Resources

PARENT CHALLENGE:
Are you willing to look beneath the surface and have the hard conversations? This week, ask your child—even if they seem “fine”—how they’re really feeling. What would happen if you treated emotional pain as seriously as physical pain, and taught your family to do the same?

Listen now, and help bring hope into the darkness—because as Christian parents, we are called to fight for life, truth, and healing for our children.

Teen suicide is a subject no parent ever wants to face&mdash;but in today&rsquo;s world, it&rsquo;s a crisis that cannot be ignored. In this heartrending and hope-filled "Best Of" episode, Catherine sits down with featured guest Emma Benoit, a vibrant young woman whose hidden battle with anxiety led to a suicide attempt that changed her life forever, and with expert guest Jennifer Ellers, a Christian counselor and crisis responder specializing in youth suicide prevention.
Host Catherine brings listeners a gripping and candid conversation about the epidemic of teen suicide&mdash;a tragedy impacting families in every community. With staggering statistics showing suicide as the second leading cause of death among young people, the need for awareness and action has never been greater.
Special Guests:
<ul>
<li>
Emma Benoit: Once a vibrant, high-achieving varsity cheerleader, Emma survived a self-inflicted gunshot wound at 16. Paralyzed from the waist down, Emma has transformed her pain into purpose, becoming a passionate advocate for mental health and suicide prevention.
</li>
<li>
Jennifer Ellers: Christian counselor, crisis responder, trainer, and author specializing in youth suicide prevention. Jennifer&rsquo;s insights bridge clinical expertise with faith-based hope.
</li>
</ul>
What You&rsquo;ll Discover in This Episode:
Emma&rsquo;s Hidden Battle Hear Emma Benoit candidly recount how crippling anxiety and private pain led her to the brink&mdash;while outwardly, no one suspected she was suffering. &ldquo;No one knew...because I was ashamed of it,&rdquo; she shares, highlighting the dangerous power of stigma and secrecy (08:17).
Warning Signs &amp; Early Intervention Jennifer Ellers unpacks what every parent needs to know: the evolving age of onset (with cases now seen as young as six years old!), the often-masked signs of distress, and why honest, nonjudgmental conversations are the most important tool parents possess (10:12).
The Seductive Lie of Suicide Both Emma Benoit and the experts stress that &ldquo;no one wants to end their life&mdash;they want to end their pain.&rdquo; The moment after her attempt, Emma was flooded with regret&mdash;a pattern echoed by many survivors. Suicide is rarely about death, but the desperate desire for relief (22:31).
The Spiritual Battle Beneath the Surface Catherine, Emma Benoit, and Jennifer Ellers break the silence on the spiritual warfare at play&mdash;how despair is more than physical or emotional, but a real assault on hope itself. &ldquo;You won&rsquo;t convince me there&rsquo;s not a spiritual component&hellip; that voice, that seduction, I absolutely believe is Satan,&rdquo; Jennifer Ellers declares (34:56).
Hope, Healing, and Taking Action This episode is not just a call to awareness&mdash;it&rsquo;s a message of hope. Emma&rsquo;s road to recovery, both physically and spiritually, is nothing short of miraculous. She offers a lifeline to every young person listening: &ldquo;It&rsquo;s okay to feel that way. Just hang in there. It gets better, and hope is so real&rdquo; (40:34).
Practical Guidance for Parents:
<ul>
<li>
Ask the uncomfortable questions, openly and directly.
</li>
<li>
Cultivate an environment where feelings are named and normalized.
</li>
<li>
Treat mental health as a body, mind, AND spirit issue&mdash;seek help, including professional and faith-based support.
</li>
<li>
If there is a threat of harm, remove potential means and seek immediate intervention.
</li>
</ul>
Notable Moments:
<blockquote>
&ldquo;Death isn&rsquo;t what [the suicidal] are after&mdash;it&rsquo;s the escape from the turmoil and pain.&rdquo; &ndash; Emma Benoit &ldquo;It&rsquo;s a mind, body, spirit issue. If you leave out any one aspect, you&rsquo;re not treating the whole person.&rdquo; &ndash; Jennifer Ellers &ldquo;God has a plan to deliver everyone. We have to submit to His prescription, whatever that means.&rdquo; &ndash; Catherine
</blockquote>
About the Guests: Emma Benoit shares her story widely through My Ascension, a documentary shown in schools and communities across the country. Jennifer Ellers is a leader in Christian counseling and crisis intervention, affiliated with the American Association of Christian Counselors.
Connect &amp; Resources:
<ul>
<li>
Learn more about Emma&rsquo;s mission and the My Ascension film: <a href="https://www.myascension.us/">myascension.us</a>
</li>
<li>
Find counseling and suicide prevention resources: <a href="https://www.aacc.net">aacc.net</a>
</li>
<li>
In a crisis? Call or text 988 for immediate help.
</li>
<li>List of Scriptures to pray over those struggling with mental illness: <a href="https://catherinesegars.com/resources">Catherine's Resources</a></li>
</ul>
<hr>
PARENT CHALLENGE: Are you willing to look beneath the surface and have the hard conversations? This week, ask your child&mdash;even if they seem &ldquo;fine&rdquo;&mdash;how they&rsquo;re really feeling. What would happen if you treated emotional pain as seriously as physical pain, and taught your family to do the same?
Listen now, and help bring hope into the darkness&mdash;because as Christian parents, we are called to fight for life, truth, and healing for our children.

Beyond the Mask: What Every Parent Needs to Know About Teen Suicide (w/ Emma Benoit & Jennifer Ellers) - "Best Of" Ep. 49

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/5e27a451-e6e6-4c51-aa03-a7370003783c/clips/a16b39f9-28ea-41cc-b485-b4d8017a5137/transcript

There’s an invisible crisis happening right before our eyes—men are suffering in silence, and too often, the warning signs go unseen until it’s too late. In this raw and deeply personal episode of Christian Parent/Crazy World, host Catherine confronts the urgent mental health struggles facing the men and boys we love most.

Following a heartbreaking loss in her own circle—a former student and friend of her son who took his own life—Catherine welcomes accomplished physician and public health leader Dr. Tyler Evans to the show. With over four decades of crisis response in 110 countries and expertise in infectious diseases and addiction medicine, Dr. Tyler Evans shines a light on the hidden epidemic of men’s mental health.

What You’ll Discover in This Episode:


Staggering Statistics: Four out of five suicides in the U.S. occur among men—why are their cries for help so often missed?


Root Causes Unmasked: Dr. Tyler Evans breaks down the key drivers, including emotional suppression, cultural pressures, “emotional illiteracy,” and the uniquely lethal methods men often choose in a crisis.


Signs You Can’t Ignore: Learn how to spot the subtle and overt behavioral changes, increased substance use, and other red flags that surface before a crisis moment.


Practical Ways to Show Up: Catherine and Dr. Tyler Evans discuss actionable strategies—asking reflectively, listening without judgment, staying connected, and reducing access to lethal means.


Parenting Through Prevention: How can Christian parents—especially mothers—foster emotional intelligence in boys, help break generational cycles of silence, and make space for “big feelings” in everyday conversations?


Faith as a Lifeline: Catherine reminds listeners of the power of prayer and the importance of turning to Scripture, partnership with Christian counselors, and supporting one another in faith.

Notable Episode Moments:


Dr. Tyler Evans explains the difference in suicide methods and why men’s emotional struggles so often go undocumented—and therefore untreated—at 07:41.


“Giving men permission can come with such a sigh of relief,” Dr. Tyler Evans urges at 21:00, championing persistence and compassion over confrontation.


The vital role of removing lethal means like firearms or dangerous medications during acute crises is emphasized at 30:38.


“It is not too late to break generational cycles,” Dr. Tyler Evans encourages parents at 25:21, pointing to signs of hope among Gen Z and Gen Alpha.

Why This Matters:
This episode isn’t just about statistics—it’s a call for Christian parents to become vigilant, compassionate first responders in their own homes and communities. The silence must be broken, and the cycles of emotional isolation interrupted, for the sake of our husbands and sons.

Modern Application:
Are you nurturing an atmosphere where your sons and husbands can share their deepest feelings? Are you ready to ask uncomfortable questions and respond with grace, even when it's hard? As believers, let’s lead the charge in seeing and supporting the men in our lives, before another tragedy takes place.

About the Guest:
Dr. Tyler Evans is an infectious disease physician, epidemiologist, and public health leader, author of Pandemics, Poverty, and Politics, and the former Chief Medical Officer for NYC’s COVID-19 response. He currently leads Wellness Equity Alliance, focusing on accessible mental health care for all.

Connect with Dr. Tyler Evans:


wellnessequityalliance.com


drtylerevansmd.com


Book: Pandemics, Poverty, and Politics(Johns Hopkins University Press)

EPISODE LINKS:


National Suicide & Crisis Lifeline: Dial 988


Scripture list for parents praying for mental health (on Catherine’s website)

Thought-Provoking Question for Listeners:
Are you creating space for the men in your life—sons, husbands, brothers, fathers—to admit when they’re not okay? What intentional steps will you take today to foster emotional honesty, offer support, and build a family culture where struggles are seen and hope is never out of reach?

Don’t miss this crucial conversation—and be sure to share it with someone who needs it most.

There&rsquo;s an invisible crisis happening right before our eyes&mdash;men are suffering in silence, and too often, the warning signs go unseen until it&rsquo;s too late. In this raw and deeply personal episode of Christian Parent/Crazy World, host Catherine confronts the urgent mental health struggles facing the men and boys we love most.
Following a heartbreaking loss in her own circle&mdash;a former student and friend of her son who took his own life&mdash;Catherine welcomes accomplished physician and public health leader Dr. Tyler Evans to the show. With over four decades of crisis response in 110 countries and expertise in infectious diseases and addiction medicine, Dr. Tyler Evans shines a light on the hidden epidemic of men&rsquo;s mental health.
What You&rsquo;ll Discover in This Episode:
<ul>
<li>
Staggering Statistics: Four out of five suicides in the U.S. occur among men&mdash;why are their cries for help so often missed?
</li>
<li>
Root Causes Unmasked: Dr. Tyler Evans breaks down the key drivers, including emotional suppression, cultural pressures, &ldquo;emotional illiteracy,&rdquo; and the uniquely lethal methods men often choose in a crisis.
</li>
<li>
Signs You Can&rsquo;t Ignore: Learn how to spot the subtle and overt behavioral changes, increased substance use, and other red flags that surface before a crisis moment.
</li>
<li>
Practical Ways to Show Up: Catherine and Dr. Tyler Evans discuss actionable strategies&mdash;asking reflectively, listening without judgment, staying connected, and reducing access to lethal means.
</li>
<li>
Parenting Through Prevention: How can Christian parents&mdash;especially mothers&mdash;foster emotional intelligence in boys, help break generational cycles of silence, and make space for &ldquo;big feelings&rdquo; in everyday conversations?
</li>
<li>
Faith as a Lifeline: Catherine reminds listeners of the power of prayer and the importance of turning to Scripture, partnership with Christian counselors, and supporting one another in faith.
</li>
</ul>
Notable Episode Moments:
<ul>
<li>
Dr. Tyler Evans explains the difference in suicide methods and why men&rsquo;s emotional struggles so often go undocumented&mdash;and therefore untreated&mdash;at 07:41.
</li>
<li>
&ldquo;Giving men permission can come with such a sigh of relief,&rdquo; Dr. Tyler Evans urges at 21:00, championing persistence and compassion over confrontation.
</li>
<li>
The vital role of removing lethal means like firearms or dangerous medications during acute crises is emphasized at 30:38.
</li>
<li>
&ldquo;It is not too late to break generational cycles,&rdquo; Dr. Tyler Evans encourages parents at 25:21, pointing to signs of hope among Gen Z and Gen Alpha.
</li>
</ul>
Why This Matters: This episode isn&rsquo;t just about statistics&mdash;it&rsquo;s a call for Christian parents to become vigilant, compassionate first responders in their own homes and communities. The silence must be broken, and the cycles of emotional isolation interrupted, for the sake of our husbands and sons.
Modern Application: Are you nurturing an atmosphere where your sons and husbands can share their deepest feelings? Are you ready to ask uncomfortable questions and respond with grace, even when it's hard? As believers, let&rsquo;s lead the charge in seeing and supporting the men in our lives, before another tragedy takes place.
About the Guest: Dr. Tyler Evans is an infectious disease physician, epidemiologist, and public health leader, author of Pandemics, Poverty, and Politics, and the former Chief Medical Officer for NYC&rsquo;s COVID-19 response. He currently leads Wellness Equity Alliance, focusing on accessible mental health care for all.
Connect with Dr. Tyler Evans:
<ul>
<li>
<a href="https://www.wellnessequityalliance.com/">wellnessequityalliance.com</a>
</li>
<li>
<a href="https://www.tylerevansmd.com/">drtylerevansmd.com</a>
</li>
<li>
Book: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0D9C6GTN6?lv=shuf&amp;channelId=500&amp;plpRedirect=mhFallback">Pandemics, Poverty, and Politics </a>(Johns Hopkins University Press)
</li>
</ul>
EPISODE LINKS:
<ul>
<li>
National Suicide &amp; Crisis Lifeline: Dial 988
</li>
<li>
<a href="https://catherinesegars.com/resources">Scripture list for parents praying for mental health</a> (on Catherine&rsquo;s website)
</li>
</ul>
Thought-Provoking Question for Listeners: Are you creating space for the men in your life&mdash;sons, husbands, brothers, fathers&mdash;to admit when they&rsquo;re not okay? What intentional steps will you take today to foster emotional honesty, offer support, and build a family culture where struggles are seen and hope is never out of reach?
Don&rsquo;t miss this crucial conversation&mdash;and be sure to share it with someone who needs it most.

What If the Men You Love Aren’t Okay? Understanding Men’s Mental Health (w/ Dr. Tyler Evans) - Ep. 192

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/5e27a451-e6e6-4c51-aa03-a7370003783c/clips/ffb1ca51-5bd5-45ff-989a-b4d200018486/transcript

How Can a Good God Allow So Much Evil and Suffering? Wrestling with the Toughest Question in Faith

For many parents—and for the next generation—one question stands above the rest as the #1 barrier to Christian belief: If God is good and all-powerful, why does He allow evil and suffering in the world? This episode of Christian Parent/Crazy World dives bravely into that profound dilemma, equipping parents to address their children’s toughest doubts and their own deepest struggles.

Join host Catherine as she sits down with Dr. Douglas Groothuis, one of the most respected minds in Christian apologetics. Dr. Groothuis is Distinguished University Research Professor of Apologetics and Christian Worldview at Cornerstone University, and the author of over 20 books, including the acclaimed Christian Apologetics: A Comprehensive Case for Biblical Faith. Beyond his accolades, listeners will be moved by Dr. Groothuis’s personal journey through heartbreak and grief, offering a unique blend of intellectual rigor and heartfelt empathy.

What You’ll Discover in This Episode:


Why Every Worldview Faces the Problem of Evil
Dr. Groothuis breaks down why not just Christianity, but every philosophy—atheism, pantheism, secularism—must wrestle with the existence of evil. Discover how Christianity uniquely anchors the concepts of good and evil.


A Personal Journey Through Suffering
In a moving account, Dr. Groothuis shares how the loss of his brilliant wife Rebecca to dementia challenged—and deepened—his faith, giving listeners a firsthand look at trusting God in the depths of pain 16:55.


The “Greater Good” and Soul-Making
Explore the idea that God can use pain, loss, and evil for a greater good—one we may not fully see from our limited vantage. As Dr. Groothuis says, “I can trust the God who I know for the things I can’t understand” 16:49.


Lament: Biblical Permission to Grieve with God
The conversation tackles the Biblical tradition of lament—bringing our confusion, anger, and sorrow honestly to God. Dr. Groothuis points to the Psalms and the disciples’ struggles, reminding us that doubt and pain are not signs of weak faith, but invitations to deeper trust 31:19.


Answering Teens’ Toughest Questions
From why God couldn’t create a world with free will and no evil, to whether evil actually exists, the episode tackles real questions from young people with honesty, logic, and compassion.


Heaven: The True Hope for Suffering Believers
Dr. Groothuis illuminates the ultimate Christian hope—a new heavens and new earth where suffering is redeemed, not forgotten, and God’s presence is our deepest joy 54:56.

Notable Moments & Quotes:


“I can trust the God who I know is there for the things that I can’t understand.” — Dr. Groothuis


“Every worldview has a problem with evil—it’s not just Christianity.” — Dr. Groothuis


“Jesus is the only one who has the words of life.” — Catherine 01:02:51


“God whispers to us in our pleasures, speaks in our conscience, but shouts in our pain.” — CS Lewis, quoted by Catherine 44:37


“Where else are we going to go? Nothing else will satisfy.” — Catherine reflecting on Peter’s words 35:06

Why This Matters:
For Christian parents, the challenge of suffering is not just an abstract question—it strikes at the heart of faith formation in our families. This episode arms parents with both deeply reasoned answers and encouragement to walk alongside their children in seasons of doubt, suffering, or loss.

Modern Application:
No home is untouched by suffering. Parents, are you equipped to guide your children through questions about God’s goodness in a hurting world? Can your family find meaning in pain, and hold onto hope in hardship?

About the Guest:
Dr. Douglas Groothuis is Distinguished University Research Professor of Apologetics and Christian Worldview at Cornerstone University and the author of over 20 books, including Christian Apologetics and Walking Through Twilight: A Wife's Illness—A Philosopher’s Lament. His insights come not only from scholarly study, but from a heart acquainted with sorrow and a faith refined by fire.

EPISODE LINKS:
Dr. Groothuis' Website


Christian Apologetics: A Comprehensive Case for Biblical Faith


Walking Through Twilight: A Wife's Illness—A Philosopher’s Lament


Truth Tribe Podcast with Dr. Groothuis
Emerging Gen Z May Deliver Huge Blow to Religion in U.S. (Baptist News Global, 6/8/18)

Thought-Provoking Question:
How is your family responding to the painful “why” questions of life? Are you willing to walk with your children into the hard places—and point them toward the only One who holds the words of life?

Tune in for an episode that will challenge, comfort, and equip you to lead your family with courageous faith—even when the answers aren’t easy.

How Can a Good God Allow So Much Evil and Suffering? Wrestling with the Toughest Question in Faith
For many parents&mdash;and for the next generation&mdash;one question stands above the rest as the #1 barrier to Christian belief: If God is good and all-powerful, why does He allow evil and suffering in the world? This episode of Christian Parent/Crazy World dives bravely into that profound dilemma, equipping parents to address their children&rsquo;s toughest doubts and their own deepest struggles.
Join host Catherine as she sits down with Dr. Douglas Groothuis, one of the most respected minds in Christian apologetics. Dr. Groothuis is Distinguished University Research Professor of Apologetics and Christian Worldview at Cornerstone University, and the author of over 20 books, including the acclaimed Christian Apologetics: A Comprehensive Case for Biblical Faith. Beyond his accolades, listeners will be moved by Dr. Groothuis&rsquo;s personal journey through heartbreak and grief, offering a unique blend of intellectual rigor and heartfelt empathy.
What You&rsquo;ll Discover in This Episode:
<ul>
<li>
Why Every Worldview Faces the Problem of Evil Dr. Groothuis breaks down why not just Christianity, but every philosophy&mdash;atheism, pantheism, secularism&mdash;must wrestle with the existence of evil. Discover how Christianity uniquely anchors the concepts of good and evil.
</li>
<li>
A Personal Journey Through Suffering In a moving account, Dr. Groothuis shares how the loss of his brilliant wife Rebecca to dementia challenged&mdash;and deepened&mdash;his faith, giving listeners a firsthand look at trusting God in the depths of pain 16:55.
</li>
<li>
The &ldquo;Greater Good&rdquo; and Soul-Making Explore the idea that God can use pain, loss, and evil for a greater good&mdash;one we may not fully see from our limited vantage. As Dr. Groothuis says, &ldquo;I can trust the God who I know for the things I can&rsquo;t understand&rdquo; 16:49.
</li>
<li>
Lament: Biblical Permission to Grieve with God The conversation tackles the Biblical tradition of lament&mdash;bringing our confusion, anger, and sorrow honestly to God. Dr. Groothuis points to the Psalms and the disciples&rsquo; struggles, reminding us that doubt and pain are not signs of weak faith, but invitations to deeper trust 31:19.
</li>
<li>
Answering Teens&rsquo; Toughest Questions From why God couldn&rsquo;t create a world with free will and no evil, to whether evil actually exists, the episode tackles real questions from young people with honesty, logic, and compassion.
</li>
<li>
Heaven: The True Hope for Suffering Believers Dr. Groothuis illuminates the ultimate Christian hope&mdash;a new heavens and new earth where suffering is redeemed, not forgotten, and God&rsquo;s presence is our deepest joy 54:56.
</li>
</ul>
Notable Moments &amp; Quotes:
<ul>
<li>
&ldquo;I can trust the God who I know is there for the things that I can&rsquo;t understand.&rdquo; &mdash; Dr. Groothuis
</li>
<li>
&ldquo;Every worldview has a problem with evil&mdash;it&rsquo;s not just Christianity.&rdquo; &mdash; Dr. Groothuis
</li>
<li>
&ldquo;Jesus is the only one who has the words of life.&rdquo; &mdash; Catherine 01:02:51
</li>
<li>
&ldquo;God whispers to us in our pleasures, speaks in our conscience, but shouts in our pain.&rdquo; &mdash; CS Lewis, quoted by Catherine 44:37
</li>
<li>
&ldquo;Where else are we going to go? Nothing else will satisfy.&rdquo; &mdash; Catherine reflecting on Peter&rsquo;s words 35:06
</li>
</ul>
Why This Matters: For Christian parents, the challenge of suffering is not just an abstract question&mdash;it strikes at the heart of faith formation in our families. This episode arms parents with both deeply reasoned answers and encouragement to walk alongside their children in seasons of doubt, suffering, or loss.
Modern Application: No home is untouched by suffering. Parents, are you equipped to guide your children through questions about God&rsquo;s goodness in a hurting world? Can your family find meaning in pain, and hold onto hope in hardship?
About the Guest: Dr. Douglas Groothuis is Distinguished University Research Professor of Apologetics and Christian Worldview at Cornerstone University and the author of over 20 books, including Christian Apologetics and Walking Through Twilight: A Wife's Illness&mdash;A Philosopher&rsquo;s Lament. His insights come not only from scholarly study, but from a heart acquainted with sorrow and a faith refined by fire.
EPISODE LINKS:
<ul>
<li>Dr. Groothuis' <a href="https://www.douglasgroothuis.com/">Website</a></li>
<li>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Christian-Apologetics-Comprehensive-Biblical-Faith/dp/1514002752/ref=vo_sr_l_dp_bo_ff?crid=2CBW7PR1X1S2T&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.LTbcARpCKFMyJHRjNFQjt-q1DM0y7kvI7ow8SyLoE59_4r5ztZkRt3Xdr5x_q1q03M_aMODXKhPdr98a8RGnHEj6FwnHB7uWuAEqmzhhnowtgiVl8I4BtJfn__SrmFS-Sd-0YpIgyUKGFRvnZFaMFtC494LUXX7486z00gojOgnxN1TqHi5rF1p9u5JNkuR9FERBv8aVUpBzvYFjS6Mq6FOTJGw9d-Ks_BDMO29j0IY.mtrAzmN6KgD5tzpGzOOyw7kxD9AyVjIdrSPHL7bFNXI&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=Christian+Apologetics+Groothuis&amp;qid=1789957490&amp;sprefix=christian+apologetics+groothuis%2Caps%2C175&amp;sr=8-1">Christian Apologetics: A Comprehensive Case for Biblical Faith</a>
</li>
<li>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Walking-Through-Twilight-Philosophers-Lament/dp/---v">Walking Through Twilight: A Wife's Illness&mdash;A Philosopher&rsquo;s Lament</a>
</li>
<li>
<a href="https://www.lifeaudio.com/truth-tribe/https://www.douglasgroothuis.com/podcast-1">Truth Tribe Podcast with Dr. Groothuis</a>
</li>
<li><a href="https://baptistnews.com/article/emerging-gen-z-may-deliver-huge-blow-to-religion-in-u-s/?gclid=CjwKCAiAxvGfBhB-EiwAMPakqnlSSGK0KpQ3hA_vs6_rcxNA81o_6cfbn1MrTfBsDc6pdPUcC52boBoCkz0QAvD_BwE">Emerging Gen Z May Deliver Huge Blow to Religion in U.S</a>. (Baptist News Global, 6/8/18)</li>
</ul>
Thought-Provoking Question: How is your family responding to the painful &ldquo;why&rdquo; questions of life? Are you willing to walk with your children into the hard places&mdash;and point them toward the only One who holds the words of life?
Tune in for an episode that will challenge, comfort, and equip you to lead your family with courageous faith&mdash;even when the answers aren&rsquo;t easy.

How Can a Good God Allow Evil & Suffering? (w/ Dr. Douglas Groothuis) - Archive Ep. 66

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/5e27a451-e6e6-4c51-aa03-a7370003783c/clips/cd5d3b5f-a264-4973-be28-b4cc0026aeb8/transcript

At some point, every Christian parent finds themselves facing “giants” — immense obstacles and seemingly impossible circumstances that stand between them and God’s promises. How you respond in these moments determines whether you move forward into the life God intends, or let fear and discouragement hold you back.

In this deeply personal and practical episode, Catherine invites listeners into her own challenging season—her husband’s unexpected job loss, a year of solo parenting, and a disastrous home renovation that threatened to derail everything. With remarkable honesty, Catherine unpacks the real struggles families encounter as they pursue God’s calling in the midst of overwhelming adversity.

But this episode is more than a story of hardship. Catherine shares six powerful, actionable steps for any believer facing a giant—whether in their marriage, career, finances, health, or faith:


Gain God’s Perspective: When circumstances look hopeless, seek to see your situation through God's eyes—not just the intimidating physical realities (08:01). Drawing inspiration from Elisha’s story in 2 Kings 6, Catherine encourages listeners to pray for spiritual vision that reveals God’s power at work beyond what’s visible.


Keep Your Eyes on God, Not the Enemy: It’s tempting to focus on the size of your problems, but victory comes from fixing your gaze on the God who is bigger than any obstacle (13:10). Stories of Moses and Peter remind us that fear grows when we focus on the enemy, but faith grows when we focus on God.


Find Your Fight Songs: Worship is a weapon. Catherine describes how building a playlist of battle songs, like "Greater is He" by Blanca, helped her replace fear with hope—even when nothing changed externally (18:09). She urges parents to let worship shape their outlook during trials.


Gather Your Weapons: Know and wield the Word of God. Catherine describes creating lists of personalized scriptures to pray daily over her children, her family, and her battles. She emphasizes the importance of having these spiritual “weapons” ready before the fight comes (22:41).


Partner in Prayer: Giants don’t fall through solo efforts—find others to pray with and for you. Whether it’s a spouse, small group, or prayer team, uniting faith with others shifts the battle (27:08).


Speak to Your Giant—Prophesy Its Future: Refuse to agree with the enemy’s narrative. Catherine recounts how publicly rejecting the enemy’s threats and speaking agreement with God’s promises led to unexpected breakthroughs—in her bathroom remodel, in her home sale, and in her family’s future (31:05). She clarifies: this isn’t “name it, claim it” theology, but the biblical principle of aligning your words and faith with God's revealed plan rather than fear.

By sharing her vulnerability, setbacks, and ultimate victories, Catherine both comforts and challenges parents: your fight with giants is part of God’s story for you. This episode provides not only encouragement, but also a spiritual toolkit you can use immediately—so you can keep moving toward God’s promises, no matter how daunting the battle seems.

Resources and Further Support


Free scripture resources and faith-building tools available at Catherine’s website


Blanca "Greater Is He"

For any parent standing at their own “Red Sea,” this episode equips you to see beyond your current circumstances, lean into practical faith, and trust the God who is always greater than your giant.

At some point, every Christian parent finds themselves facing &ldquo;giants&rdquo; &mdash; immense obstacles and seemingly impossible circumstances that stand between them and God&rsquo;s promises. How you respond in these moments determines whether you move forward into the life God intends, or let fear and discouragement hold you back.
In this deeply personal and practical episode, Catherine invites listeners into her own challenging season&mdash;her husband&rsquo;s unexpected job loss, a year of solo parenting, and a disastrous home renovation that threatened to derail everything. With remarkable honesty, Catherine unpacks the real struggles families encounter as they pursue God&rsquo;s calling in the midst of overwhelming adversity.
But this episode is more than a story of hardship. Catherine shares six powerful, actionable steps for any believer facing a giant&mdash;whether in their marriage, career, finances, health, or faith:
<ol>
<li>
Gain God&rsquo;s Perspective: When circumstances look hopeless, seek to see your situation through God's eyes&mdash;not just the intimidating physical realities (08:01). Drawing inspiration from Elisha&rsquo;s story in 2 Kings 6, Catherine encourages listeners to pray for spiritual vision that reveals God&rsquo;s power at work beyond what&rsquo;s visible.
</li>
<li>
Keep Your Eyes on God, Not the Enemy: It&rsquo;s tempting to focus on the size of your problems, but victory comes from fixing your gaze on the God who is bigger than any obstacle (13:10). Stories of Moses and Peter remind us that fear grows when we focus on the enemy, but faith grows when we focus on God.
</li>
<li>
Find Your Fight Songs: Worship is a weapon. Catherine describes how building a playlist of battle songs, like "Greater is He" by Blanca, helped her replace fear with hope&mdash;even when nothing changed externally (18:09). She urges parents to let worship shape their outlook during trials.
</li>
<li>
Gather Your Weapons: Know and wield the Word of God. Catherine describes creating lists of personalized scriptures to pray daily over her children, her family, and her battles. She emphasizes the importance of having these spiritual &ldquo;weapons&rdquo; ready before the fight comes (22:41).
</li>
<li>
Partner in Prayer: Giants don&rsquo;t fall through solo efforts&mdash;find others to pray with and for you. Whether it&rsquo;s a spouse, small group, or prayer team, uniting faith with others shifts the battle (27:08).
</li>
<li>
Speak to Your Giant&mdash;Prophesy Its Future: Refuse to agree with the enemy&rsquo;s narrative. Catherine recounts how publicly rejecting the enemy&rsquo;s threats and speaking agreement with God&rsquo;s promises led to unexpected breakthroughs&mdash;in her bathroom remodel, in her home sale, and in her family&rsquo;s future (31:05). She clarifies: this isn&rsquo;t &ldquo;name it, claim it&rdquo; theology, but the biblical principle of aligning your words and faith with God's revealed plan rather than fear.
</li>
</ol>
By sharing her vulnerability, setbacks, and ultimate victories, Catherine both comforts and challenges parents: your fight with giants is part of God&rsquo;s story for you. This episode provides not only encouragement, but also a spiritual toolkit you can use immediately&mdash;so you can keep moving toward God&rsquo;s promises, no matter how daunting the battle seems.
Resources and Further Support
<ul>
<li>
Free scripture resources and faith-building tools available at <a href="https://catherinesegars.com/">Catherine&rsquo;s website</a>
</li>
<li>
Blanca "<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fht61vcBeIw">Greater Is He</a>"
</li>
</ul>
For any parent standing at their own &ldquo;Red Sea,&rdquo; this episode equips you to see beyond your current circumstances, lean into practical faith, and trust the God who is always greater than your giant.

When a Giant Is Standing Between You and God’s Promise - Ep. 191

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Too often, our entire healthcare system is designed to chase symptoms, not solutions. We numb the pain, mask the problem, and patch the visible cracks—rarely pausing to dig for the real reason something is wrong. But what if this approach is quietly failing our children and families, creating lifelong challenges where there could have been correction and healing?

In this memorable episode of Christian Parent/Crazy World, host Catherine pulls back the curtain on one of the most overlooked arenas where symptom-chasing can rob families of true wellness: our children’s oral and airway health during sleep. Bringing practical wisdom, expert insight, and personal experience, Catherine is joined by Dr. Kallie Hale—one of the country’s leading dentists specializing in dental sleep medicine and airway health.

Free Dental Airway Assessment: Visit www.toothpillow.com/cpcw and use CODE: CPCW to get a free upgrade that includes a full video assessment, a $50 value.

Meet the Guest:
Dr. Kallie Hale is the co-founder and Chief Clinical Officer of The Airway Dentists and the founder of Tooth Pillow, a teledentistry platform helping families nationwide address airway-related root causes of health issues. With a national speaking career and a passion for pediatric sleep-disordered breathing, Dr. Hale has made it her mission to change how dentistry and medicine care for children’s well-being—by getting to the source of symptoms rather than merely managing them.

Episode Highlights & Key Insights:


The “duct tape” problem in medicine and parenting: Many health challenges—headaches, poor sleep, crooked teeth, even mental health—are met with short-term remedies rather than curiosity about their origins (Catherine, 03:38).


Oral health, airway function, and your child’s future: Dr. Hale describes how issues like crooked teeth, mouth breathing, tooth grinding, and even bedwetting can signal deep-seated airway problems that affect not just dental aesthetics, but growth, learning, and emotional health (Dr. Hale, 12:00).


Rethinking orthodontics: For generations, standard dental practice has started “too late,” waiting until adolescence to straighten teeth and sometimes extracting healthy teeth—while missing the root cause: underdeveloped jaw and airway structures. Dr. Hale urges, “The way we do our orthodontic treatment on our children now will determine how they live for the rest of their life, and how they age.” (Dr. Kallie Hale, 13:41)


Signs parents can’t afford to ignore: Grinding, snoring, chronic tiredness, allergies, dark under-eye circles, and persistent bedwetting are early warning lights on the dashboard. “That’s your check engine light,” warns Dr. Hale.


From symptom to solution: Tooth Pillow—a simple, child-friendly appliance—offers early, gentle intervention that addresses the root of airway-related dental and sleep struggles, and their virtual platform means families everywhere can access screening and help.


Spiritual parallels: Just like in health, our faith calls us to look below the surface—not just masking the manifest struggles but seeking the deeper heart issues, trusting God to reveal the true diagnosis and pathway to healing.

Catherine shares personal anecdotes—her own long path through dental fixes, her children’s struggles, and the frustration of being offered “duct tape” solutions, never a path to wholeness. Dr. Hale vulnerably discusses what it cost her to become a voice for root-cause medicine in a profession slow to change, and how she’s equipping parents to “challenge the narrative” in everything—from their dentist’s advice to the way they advocate for their children’s health and future.

Are you masking symptoms or courageously seeking the root?
As Christian parents, we’re called not just to fix what’s on the surface, but to ask better questions, seek deeper truth, and partner with God in healing—from head to heart. Don’t miss this episode for hope, wisdom, and a practical roadmap to get out of the symptom-chasing maze and into true wellness for your whole family.

Take Action: Has your parenting or healthcare journey been focused on surface fixes? Visit www.toothpillow.com/cpcw and use CODE: CPCW to get a free upgrade that includes a full video assessment, a $50 value. Instead of just a form response, one of their doctors records a video walking through your child's photos one by one, explaining exactly what they see, why it matters, and what they recommend. You watch it on your own time, revisit it later, or share it with family. 

Where is God calling me to look deeper—to discover the root, restore what’s broken, and help my child become all He created them to be?

Too often, our entire healthcare system is designed to chase symptoms, not solutions. We numb the pain, mask the problem, and patch the visible cracks&mdash;rarely pausing to dig for the real reason something is wrong. But what if this approach is quietly failing our children and families, creating lifelong challenges where there could have been correction and healing?
In this memorable episode of Christian Parent/Crazy World, host Catherine pulls back the curtain on one of the most overlooked arenas where symptom-chasing can rob families of true wellness: our children&rsquo;s oral and airway health during sleep. Bringing practical wisdom, expert insight, and personal experience, Catherine is joined by Dr. Kallie Hale&mdash;one of the country&rsquo;s leading dentists specializing in dental sleep medicine and airway health.
Free Dental Airway Assessment: Visit <a href="https://www.toothpillow.com/cpcw">www.toothpillow.com/cpcw</a> and use CODE: CPCW to get a free upgrade that includes a full video assessment, a $50 value.
Meet the Guest: Dr. Kallie Hale is the co-founder and Chief Clinical Officer of The Airway Dentists and the founder of Tooth Pillow, a teledentistry platform helping families nationwide address airway-related root causes of health issues. With a national speaking career and a passion for pediatric sleep-disordered breathing, Dr. Hale has made it her mission to change how dentistry and medicine care for children&rsquo;s well-being&mdash;by getting to the source of symptoms rather than merely managing them.
Episode Highlights &amp; Key Insights:
<ul>
<li>
The &ldquo;duct tape&rdquo; problem in medicine and parenting: Many health challenges&mdash;headaches, poor sleep, crooked teeth, even mental health&mdash;are met with short-term remedies rather than curiosity about their origins (Catherine, 03:38).
</li>
<li>
Oral health, airway function, and your child&rsquo;s future: Dr. Hale describes how issues like crooked teeth, mouth breathing, tooth grinding, and even bedwetting can signal deep-seated airway problems that affect not just dental aesthetics, but growth, learning, and emotional health (Dr. Hale, 12:00).
</li>
<li>
Rethinking orthodontics: For generations, standard dental practice has started &ldquo;too late,&rdquo; waiting until adolescence to straighten teeth and sometimes extracting healthy teeth&mdash;while missing the root cause: underdeveloped jaw and airway structures. Dr. Hale urges, &ldquo;The way we do our orthodontic treatment on our children now will determine how they live for the rest of their life, and how they age.&rdquo; (Dr. Kallie Hale, 13:41)
</li>
<li>
Signs parents can&rsquo;t afford to ignore: Grinding, snoring, chronic tiredness, allergies, dark under-eye circles, and persistent bedwetting are early warning lights on the dashboard. &ldquo;That&rsquo;s your check engine light,&rdquo; warns Dr. Hale.
</li>
<li>
From symptom to solution: Tooth Pillow&mdash;a simple, child-friendly appliance&mdash;offers early, gentle intervention that addresses the root of airway-related dental and sleep struggles, and their virtual platform means families everywhere can access screening and help.
</li>
<li>
Spiritual parallels: Just like in health, our faith calls us to look below the surface&mdash;not just masking the manifest struggles but seeking the deeper heart issues, trusting God to reveal the true diagnosis and pathway to healing.
</li>
</ul>
Catherine shares personal anecdotes&mdash;her own long path through dental fixes, her children&rsquo;s struggles, and the frustration of being offered &ldquo;duct tape&rdquo; solutions, never a path to wholeness. Dr. Hale vulnerably discusses what it cost her to become a voice for root-cause medicine in a profession slow to change, and how she&rsquo;s equipping parents to &ldquo;challenge the narrative&rdquo; in everything&mdash;from their dentist&rsquo;s advice to the way they advocate for their children&rsquo;s health and future.
Are you masking symptoms or courageously seeking the root? As Christian parents, we&rsquo;re called not just to fix what&rsquo;s on the surface, but to ask better questions, seek deeper truth, and partner with God in healing&mdash;from head to heart. Don&rsquo;t miss this episode for hope, wisdom, and a practical roadmap to get out of the symptom-chasing maze and into true wellness for your whole family.
Take Action: Has your parenting or healthcare journey been focused on surface fixes? Visit <a href="https://www.toothpillow.com/cpcw">www.toothpillow.com/cpcw</a> and use CODE: CPCW to get a free upgrade that includes a full video assessment, a $50 value. Instead of just a form response, one of their doctors records a video walking through your child's photos one by one, explaining exactly what they see, why it matters, and what they recommend. You watch it on your own time, revisit it later, or share it with family.&nbsp;
Where is God calling me to look deeper&mdash;to discover the root, restore what&rsquo;s broken, and help my child become all He created them to be?

What If Your Child’s Health Struggles Have a Hidden Cause? (w/ Dr. Kallie Hale) - Ep. 190

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There is no greater heartbreak for a Christian parent than watching a beloved child drift away from the faith. Yet in today’s world, navigating doubt and rebellion in our kids is increasingly common — and even the most dedicated parents may find themselves walking the painful road of the prodigal.

In this powerful and hope-filled episode, Catherine concludes her two-part “Best Of” series on Gen Z with Laurie Christine , originally aired on Redeeming the Chaos. Together, they tackle the hard questions: How do you parent a child who’s struggling in their faith? How do you protect your relationship and retain influence when your child is questioning, doubting, or rejecting core beliefs? What actions can help draw a wandering heart back — and what parental mistakes might actually push them further away?

Seven Big Reasons Gen Z Is Leaving the Faith
Catherine briefly recaps the top reasons young people cite for leaving Christianity, referencing Barna Research:


Struggling with the existence of evil and suffering


Perceiving Christians as hypocrites


Belief that science contradicts the Bible


Dismissing Christianity as a “fairy tale”


Disillusionment over injustices in Christian history


Apathy or perceived irrelevance of church


Negative experiences with Christians or church

Guidance for Parents Navigating a Prodigal Child's Journey
With raw honesty and wisdom, Catherine draws from her own family’s story and years of hosting Christian Parent Crazy World. She and Laurie Christine outline practical steps — and critical mindset shifts — for parents of teens and adult children who are wrestling with faith:


Prayer is your first line of defense. Catherine emphasizes the unique spiritual authority parents have in prayer over their children, describing the importance of persistent, faith-filled intercession.


Know your stage of parenting. Are you a caregiver, cop, coach, or counselor? Catherine details how your approach must shift as your child grows, especially in the late teen and adult years.


Lead with unconditional love. Affirm your love no matter your child’s beliefs or choices. Laurie Christine highlights the importance of commending kids when they open up about doubt or disagreement, not reacting with panic or punishment.


Set and communicate healthy boundaries. While extending grace, be clear about the behavioral standards for living in your home — but avoid enabling harmful choices.


Don’t give endless sermons. Teens know what you believe. What they need now is to see the love of Christ in action and to encounter God for themselves.


Reject the urge to convince, convict, coerce, or control. Catherine unpacks how these tactics either step into God’s role or mirror the enemy’s strategies. Instead, keep your focus on love, wise counsel, and prayer.


Humble yourself and own your mistakes. Apologize when you’ve erred. Humility builds bridges and trust.

Releasing Guilt and Entrusting Your Child to God
Every parent will wonder “What did I do wrong?” Catherine compassionately reassures listeners that even a perfect parent—God Himself—had two children in the Garden who chose rebellion. She delineates what is a parent’s responsibility, what belongs to the child, and what only God can do. Parents must let go of crushing guilt and trust God’s relentless pursuit of prodigals.

Practical Resources
Catherine references a bundle of free resources for parents of prodigals, including scripture prayer lists and episode archives, available at her website.

Powerful Reminders
Above all, Catherine reminds parents that God’s love is unconditional — “while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.” Christian parents must model this same radical love, never shunning, always hoping, and continually interceding for their children.

Guest Bio:
Laurie Christine is host of Redeeming the Chaos and a mother of four boys. Her passion is equipping moms to raise courageous sons rooted in Christ.

This honest and practical episode is a lifeline for any parent feeling the heartbreak of doubt, struggle, or estrangement. Whether your child is beginning to question, entrenched in rebellion, or seemingly far from God, you’ll find encouragement, wisdom, and hope for the journey.

There is no greater heartbreak for a Christian parent than watching a beloved child drift away from the faith. Yet in today&rsquo;s world, navigating doubt and rebellion in our kids is increasingly common &mdash; and even the most dedicated parents may find themselves walking the painful road of the prodigal.
In this powerful and hope-filled episode, Catherine concludes her two-part &ldquo;Best Of&rdquo; series on Gen Z with Laurie Christine , originally aired on Redeeming the Chaos. Together, they tackle the hard questions: How do you parent a child who&rsquo;s struggling in their faith? How do you protect your relationship and retain influence when your child is questioning, doubting, or rejecting core beliefs? What actions can help draw a wandering heart back &mdash; and what parental mistakes might actually push them further away?
Seven Big Reasons Gen Z Is Leaving the Faith Catherine briefly recaps the top reasons young people cite for leaving Christianity, referencing <a href="https://baptistnews.com/article/emerging-gen-z-may-deliver-huge-blow-to-religion-in-u-s/?gclid=CjwKCAiAxvGfBhB-EiwAMPakqnlSSGK0KpQ3hA_vs6_rcxNA81o_6cfbn1MrTfBsDc6pdPUcC52boBoCkz0QAvD_BwE">Barna Research</a>:
<ol>
<li>
Struggling with the existence of evil and suffering
</li>
<li>
Perceiving Christians as hypocrites
</li>
<li>
Belief that science contradicts the Bible
</li>
<li>
Dismissing Christianity as a &ldquo;fairy tale&rdquo;
</li>
<li>
Disillusionment over injustices in Christian history
</li>
<li>
Apathy or perceived irrelevance of church
</li>
<li>
Negative experiences with Christians or church
</li>
</ol>
Guidance for Parents Navigating a Prodigal Child's Journey With raw honesty and wisdom, Catherine draws from her own family&rsquo;s story and years of hosting Christian Parent Crazy World. She and Laurie Christine outline practical steps &mdash; and critical mindset shifts &mdash; for parents of teens and adult children who are wrestling with faith:
<ul>
<li>
Prayer is your first line of defense. Catherine emphasizes the unique spiritual authority parents have in prayer over their children, describing the importance of persistent, faith-filled intercession.
</li>
<li>
Know your stage of parenting. Are you a caregiver, cop, coach, or counselor? Catherine details how your approach must shift as your child grows, especially in the late teen and adult years.
</li>
<li>
Lead with unconditional love. Affirm your love no matter your child&rsquo;s beliefs or choices. Laurie Christine highlights the importance of commending kids when they open up about doubt or disagreement, not reacting with panic or punishment.
</li>
<li>
Set and communicate healthy boundaries. While extending grace, be clear about the behavioral standards for living in your home &mdash; but avoid enabling harmful choices.
</li>
<li>
Don&rsquo;t give endless sermons. Teens know what you believe. What they need now is to see the love of Christ in action and to encounter God for themselves.
</li>
<li>
Reject the urge to convince, convict, coerce, or control. Catherine unpacks how these tactics either step into God&rsquo;s role or mirror the enemy&rsquo;s strategies. Instead, keep your focus on love, wise counsel, and prayer.
</li>
<li>
Humble yourself and own your mistakes. Apologize when you&rsquo;ve erred. Humility builds bridges and trust.
</li>
</ul>
Releasing Guilt and Entrusting Your Child to God Every parent will wonder &ldquo;What did I do wrong?&rdquo; Catherine compassionately reassures listeners that even a perfect parent&mdash;God Himself&mdash;had two children in the Garden who chose rebellion. She delineates what is a parent&rsquo;s responsibility, what belongs to the child, and what only God can do. Parents must let go of crushing guilt and trust God&rsquo;s relentless pursuit of prodigals.
Practical Resources Catherine references a bundle of free resources for parents of prodigals, including scripture prayer lists and episode archives, available at <a href="https://katherineseagers.com">her website</a>.
Powerful Reminders Above all, Catherine reminds parents that God&rsquo;s love is unconditional &mdash; &ldquo;while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.&rdquo; Christian parents must model this same radical love, never shunning, always hoping, and continually interceding for their children.
Guest Bio: Laurie Christine is host of Redeeming the Chaos and a mother of four boys. Her passion is equipping moms to raise courageous sons rooted in Christ.
This honest and practical episode is a lifeline for any parent feeling the heartbreak of doubt, struggle, or estrangement. Whether your child is beginning to question, entrenched in rebellion, or seemingly far from God, you&rsquo;ll find encouragement, wisdom, and hope for the journey.

When Your Child Questions the Faith: Building Bridges, Not Walls (w/ Laurie Christine) - Archive Ep. 99

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Parents cannot afford to ignore why so many Gen Zers are walking away from Christianity. Understanding the reasons behind this dramatic cultural shift is essential for any Christian parent hoping to nurture enduring faith in their children.

In this sobering and highly relevant episode of Christian Parent/Crazy World, Catherine is joined by guest Laurie Christine (author, podcast host, and biblical parenting coach) for a deep dive into the top seven reasons Gen Z is leaving the faith.

Pulling from recent Barna research, Catherine outlines the most prominent factors cited by young people, including the prevalence of evil and suffering, hypocrisy within the church, challenges regarding science, accusations that Christianity is “fairy tale,” historical injustices, church irrelevance, and personal bad experiences with Christians. Each of these issues is explored, not only in terms of what is driving the exodus but with practical suggestions and resources for parents at every stage—from young children in the home to teens on the brink of adulthood.

Key Points Covered:


A Crisis of Worldview in Churches


Only 37% of pastors and 51% of evangelical pastors have a biblical worldview (09:24), according to the American Worldview Inventory.


Parents are cautioned not to outsource spiritual formation solely to churches—home must be the primary place for faith development.


The Power and Pervasiveness of Cultural Influence


Social media, internet, and secular worldviews bombard kids daily, requiring parents to proactively engage in conversations about pantheism, secularism, suffering, identity, and more (10:49).


Barna’s Seven Reasons Gen Z Is Leaving the Faith (12:02), (32:55)


1. I have a hard time believing that a good God would allow so much evil or suffering in the world (29%): see EPISODE 66 w/ Dr. Douglas Groothuis

2. Christians are hypocrites (23%)

3. I believe science refutes too much of the Bible (20%) See Dr. Stephen Meyer: Signature in the Cell, The Return of the God Hypothesis, and Darwin’s Doubt; also see Dr. John Lennox (The “God Delusion “ Debate with Richard Dawkins)

4. I don’t believe in fairy tales (19%) see “The Case for Christ” & “The Case for Christ for Kids” by Lee Strobel

5. There are too many injustices in the history of Christianity (15%) see Episode 9: How Does Christian Worldview Creates the World We all Want to Live”, see Episodes 93, 94, & 95 w/ Os Guinness

6. I used to go to church, but it’s just not important to me anymore (12%)

7. I had a bad experience in church/with a Christian (6%) see Episodes 39, 40, 41, & 42; see “When Narcissism Comes to Church: Healing Your Community from Emotional & Spiritual Abuse” by Dr. Chuck DeGroat


Parenting Solutions for Each Season


Practical foundation-building for young children: daily devotions, scripture memory using music, and apologetics resources like Foundation Worldview (21:45).


Teen and adult strategies: prioritizing tough conversations, choosing churches wisely, and seeking out other trusted Christian influences when parental voice decreases (19:08), (25:20).


The unique call to pray for, encourage, and intentionally speak truth into the distinctive gifts and struggles of each child.


Featured Resources


Foundation Worldview curriculum (with discount code)


Books: The Case for Christ by Lee Strobel, Signature in the Cell by Dr. Stephen Meyer, When Narcissism Comes to Church by Dr. Chuck DeGrow


Podcast episode recommendations for parents of prodigals and those wrestling with the problem of evil

Guest bio:
Laurie Christine is an author, podcast host, wife, and mom to four adventurous boys. She leads Redeeming the Chaos, equipping moms of boys to raise courageous kids rooted in Christ.

Want deeper guidance?
Subscribe to Catherine’s website for a free prodigal bundle (podcasts, articles, scripture lists, and music), plus weekly encouragement and parenting resources. For parents walking the prodigal path, there is hope—you are not alone.

Do not miss this critical conversation—because if we want to help Gen Z return to the faith, we must first understand why they’re leaving.

RESOURCES REFERENCED AND CITED:

 

“Emerging Gen Z may deliver huge blow to religion in U.S.” by Jeff Brumley (June 8, 2018)

The American Worldview Inventory in 2022 highlights worldview beliefs of American pastors.

“Only Half of Evangelical Pastors Possess a Christian Worldview: Incidence Even Lower for Most Denominations” (Cultural Research Cente::ACU)

ACU Cultural Research Center Worldview Inventory 2020-current

Foundation Worldview Curriculum (use “CPCW10” code for 10% discount)

Apologia: What We Believe (4 volume set)

 

EPISODES CITED:

Episode 57: “How To Teach Your Kids the Christian Worldview” w/ Elizabeth Urbanowicz

Episode 58: “7 Lies Culture is Selling Our Kids: Are They Buying?” w/ Elizabeth Urbanowicz

Episode 72: “What Do People Leaving the Faith often Get Wrong about God?” w/ Elizabeth Urbanowics

Episode 84: “How To Learn More Scripture in 2024 Than You Ever Have Before” w/ Zac Fitzsimmons

Parents cannot afford to ignore why so many Gen Zers are walking away from Christianity. Understanding the reasons behind this dramatic cultural shift is essential for any Christian parent hoping to nurture enduring faith in their children.
In this sobering and highly relevant episode of Christian Parent/Crazy World, Catherine is joined by guest Laurie Christine (author, podcast host, and biblical parenting coach) for a deep dive into the top seven reasons Gen Z is leaving the faith.
Pulling from recent Barna research, Catherine outlines the most prominent factors cited by young people, including the prevalence of evil and suffering, hypocrisy within the church, challenges regarding science, accusations that Christianity is &ldquo;fairy tale,&rdquo; historical injustices, church irrelevance, and personal bad experiences with Christians. Each of these issues is explored, not only in terms of what is driving the exodus but with practical suggestions and resources for parents at every stage&mdash;from young children in the home to teens on the brink of adulthood.
Key Points Covered:
<ul>
<li>
A Crisis of Worldview in Churches
<ul>
<li>
Only 37% of pastors and 51% of evangelical pastors have a biblical worldview (09:24), according to the American Worldview Inventory.
</li>
<li>
Parents are cautioned not to outsource spiritual formation solely to churches&mdash;home must be the primary place for faith development.
</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>
The Power and Pervasiveness of Cultural Influence
<ul>
<li>
Social media, internet, and secular worldviews bombard kids daily, requiring parents to proactively engage in conversations about pantheism, secularism, suffering, identity, and more (10:49).
</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>
Barna&rsquo;s Seven Reasons Gen Z Is Leaving the Faith (12:02), (32:55)
<ol>
<li>
1. I have a hard time believing that a good God would allow so much evil or suffering in the world (29%):&nbsp;see&nbsp;<a href="https://www.lifeaudio.com/christian-parent-crazy-world/how-can-a-good-god-allow-so-much-evil-and-suffering-in-the-world-with-dr-douglas-groothuis-episode-66">EPISODE 66</a>&nbsp;w/&nbsp;<a href="https://www.douglasgroothuis.com/">Dr. Douglas Groothuis</a>
2. Christians are hypocrites&nbsp;(23%)
3. I believe science refutes too much of the Bible&nbsp;(20%) See&nbsp;<a href="https://stephencmeyer.org/">Dr. Stephen Meyer</a>:&nbsp;<a href="https://stephencmeyer.org/books/">Signature in the Cell, The Return of the God Hypothesis, and Darwin&rsquo;s Doubt</a>; also see&nbsp;<a href="https://www.johnlennox.org/">Dr. John Lennox</a>&nbsp;(<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zF5bPI92-5o">The &ldquo;God Delusion &ldquo; Debate</a>&nbsp;with Richard Dawkins)
4. I don&rsquo;t believe in fairy tales&nbsp;(19%) see&nbsp;&ldquo;<a href="https://leestrobel.com/books">The Case for Christ</a>&rdquo; &amp; &ldquo;<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Case-Christ-Kids/dp/0310719909/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3C2UJL7O2ZNJ&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.5hbVWbaY19uTNLwps1vaNRLA-7JR-DMhFbeM8aX7nEYNAoRa3mU0ZJvdtO4TbtWKHb3VSCv9Uy7v-dBbjdBUz9CNYi-9Q9CF3-db6apM2po7mYTl9ayl8XRUbt8gB-iEhO2ZViQ4lD92shPuugh0rYgWGpP7JPV73XM4YYXvI0N5Bt_GzGeno1ZavoDBz5LeRcxcAWoGZMLUFoB4bxebHH53ZK2stul_R3YjxvqAvms.RYJb2JxxXaJM34ydqlobTaLLipw7VF4BUyOeivLu3Uc&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=The+Case+for+Christ+Jr&amp;qid=1712519539&amp;sprefix=the+case+for+christ+jr%2Caps%2C105&amp;sr=8-1">The Case for Christ for Kids</a>&rdquo; by&nbsp;<a href="https://leestrobel.com/">Lee Strobel</a>
5. There are too many injustices in the history of Christianity&nbsp;(15%) see&nbsp;<a href="https://www.lifeaudio.com/christian-parent-crazy-world/how-does-the-christian-worldview-create-a-world-we-all-want-to-live-in-episode-9">Episode 9: How Does Christian Worldview Creates the World We all Want to Live</a>&rdquo;, see Episodes&nbsp;<a href="https://www.lifeaudio.com/christian-parent-crazy-world/what-most-americans-dont-understand-about-freedom-w-os-guinness-ep-93">93</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.lifeaudio.com/christian-parent-crazy-world/the-dilemma-christians-face-at-the-ballot-box-w-os-guinness-ep-94">94</a>, &amp;&nbsp;<a href="https://www.lifeaudio.com/christian-parent-crazy-world/how-is-godly-parenting-central-to-sustaining-faith-freedom-w-os-guinness-ep-95">95</a>&nbsp;w/ Os Guinness
6. I used to go to church, but it&rsquo;s just not important to me anymore&nbsp;(12%)
7. I had a bad experience in church/with a Christian&nbsp;(6%)&nbsp;see Episodes&nbsp;<a href="https://www.lifeaudio.com/christian-parent-crazy-world/have-you-ever-been-judged-by-other-christians-episode-39">39</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.lifeaudio.com/christian-parent-crazy-world/is-it-ever-right-to-judge-others-episode-40">40</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.lifeaudio.com/christian-parent-crazy-world/six-problems-we-encounter-when-it-comes-to-judging-episode-41">41</a>, &amp;&nbsp;<a href="https://www.lifeaudio.com/christian-parent-crazy-world/three-steps-to-take-when-you-or-your-kids-are-judged-episode-42">42</a>; see &ldquo;<a href="https://www.chuckdegroat.net/books">When Narcissism Comes to Church: Healing Your Community from Emotional &amp; Spiritual Abuse</a>&rdquo; by&nbsp;<a href="https://www.chuckdegroat.net/">Dr. Chuck DeGroat</a>
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Parenting Solutions for Each Season
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Practical foundation-building for young children: daily devotions, scripture memory using music, and apologetics resources like Foundation Worldview (21:45).
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Teen and adult strategies: prioritizing tough conversations, choosing churches wisely, and seeking out other trusted Christian influences when parental voice decreases (19:08), (25:20).
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The unique call to pray for, encourage, and intentionally speak truth into the distinctive gifts and struggles of each child.
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Foundation Worldview curriculum (with discount code)
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Books: The Case for Christ by Lee Strobel, Signature in the Cell by Dr. Stephen Meyer, When Narcissism Comes to Church by Dr. Chuck DeGrow
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Podcast episode recommendations for parents of prodigals and those wrestling with the problem of evil
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Guest bio: Laurie Christine is an author, podcast host, wife, and mom to four adventurous boys. She leads Redeeming the Chaos, equipping moms of boys to raise courageous kids rooted in Christ.
Want deeper guidance? <a href="https://catherineseagers.com">Subscribe to Catherine&rsquo;s website</a> for a free prodigal bundle (podcasts, articles, scripture lists, and music), plus weekly encouragement and parenting resources. For parents walking the prodigal path, there is hope&mdash;you are not alone.
Do not miss this critical conversation&mdash;because if we want to help Gen Z return to the faith, we must first understand why they&rsquo;re leaving.
RESOURCES REFERENCED AND CITED:
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&ldquo;<a href="https://baptistnews.com/article/emerging-gen-z-may-deliver-huge-blow-to-religion-in-u-s/?gclid=CjwKCAiAxvGfBhB-EiwAMPakqnlSSGK0KpQ3hA_vs6_rcxNA81o_6cfbn1MrTfBsDc6pdPUcC52boBoCkz0QAvD_BwE">Emerging Gen Z may deliver huge blow to religion in U.S</a>.&rdquo; by Jeff Brumley (June 8, 2018)
The&nbsp;<a href="https://www.arizonachristian.edu/2022/05/12/shocking-lack-of-biblical-worldview-among-american-pastors/">American Worldview Inventory in 2022</a>&nbsp;highlights worldview beliefs of American pastors.
&ldquo;<a href="chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https:/www.arizonachristian.edu/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/AWVI2022_Release_06_Digital.pdf">Only Half of Evangelical Pastors Possess a Christian Worldview: Incidence Even Lower for Most Denominations</a>&rdquo; (Cultural Research Cente::ACU)
<a href="https://www.arizonachristian.edu/culturalresearchcenter/research/">ACU Cultural Research Center Worldview Inventory</a>&nbsp;2020-current
<a href="https://foundationworldview.com/">Foundation Worldview</a>&nbsp;Curriculum (use &ldquo;CPCW10&rdquo; code for 10% discount)
<a href="https://www.apologia.com/shop/what-we-believe-4-volume-boxed-set/?gad_source=1&amp;gclid=Cj0KCQjwiMmwBhDmARIsABeQ7xSHJgJBn3Os01v8yZ_YdHG5ytqRzUHHTqKw1agof9V-50TOxHDqIw0aAlAuEALw_wcB">Apologia: What We Believe</a>&nbsp;(4 volume set)
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EPISODES CITED:
Episode 57: &ldquo;<a href="https://www.lifeaudio.com/christian-parent-crazy-world/how-to-teach-your-kids-the-christian-worldview-with-elizabeth-urbanowicz-episode-57">How To Teach Your Kids the Christian Worldview</a>&rdquo; w/ Elizabeth Urbanowicz
Episode 58: &ldquo;<a href="https://www.lifeaudio.com/christian-parent-crazy-world/7-lies-culture-is-selling-our-kids-are-they-buying-with-elizabeth-urbanowicz-episode-58">7 Lies Culture is Selling Our Kids: Are They Buying?</a>&rdquo; w/ Elizabeth Urbanowicz
Episode 72: &ldquo;<a href="https://www.lifeaudio.com/christian-parent-crazy-world/what-do-deconstructionists-often-get-wrong-about-god">What Do People Leaving the Faith often Get Wrong about God?&rdquo;</a>&nbsp;w/ Elizabeth Urbanowics
Episode 84: &ldquo;<a href="https://www.lifeaudio.com/christian-parent-crazy-world/how-to-learn-more-scripture-in-2024-than-you-ever-have-before">How To Learn More Scripture in 2024 Than You Ever Have Before</a>&rdquo; w/ Zac Fitzsimmons

Seven Reasons Why Gen Z Is Abandoning the Faith (w/ Laurie Christine) - Archive Ep. 98

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The Christian Parent, Crazy World podcast with Catherine Segars equips moms and dads to be godly parents in a world that often opposes their faith. As a passionate apologist and seasoned communicator, Catherine unpacks the tough cultural issues facing families today, offering insightful, biblically grounded guidance. Each episode helps parents understand the challenges of our times and respond with wisdom, confidence, and grace.

Topics covered on this podcast include:
What to Do If Your Child Walks Away from the Faith
Can Our Words Change the Future?
Why Are So Many Kids Falling Away from The Faith?
13 Ways To Be a Better Parent This Year
5 Things Every Parent Needs to Know About Gen Z
What Critical Foundation Do Many Parents Miss When Discipling Their Kids?
How To Teach Your Kids the Christian Worldview 
Hope and Strategy for Parents of Prodigal Children

Want to read some of Catherine's most popular Christian parenting articles? Check them out here: https://www.crosswalk.com/author/catherine-segars/

The Christian Parent, Crazy World&nbsp;podcast with Catherine Segars equips moms and dads to be godly parents in a world that often opposes their faith. As a passionate apologist and seasoned communicator, Catherine unpacks the tough cultural issues facing families today, offering insightful, biblically grounded guidance. Each episode helps parents understand the challenges of our times and respond with wisdom, confidence, and grace.
Topics covered on this podcast include:
<ul>
<li>What to Do If Your Child Walks Away from the Faith</li>
<li>Can Our Words Change the Future?</li>
<li>Why Are So Many Kids Falling Away from The Faith?</li>
<li>13 Ways To Be a Better Parent This Year</li>
<li>5 Things Every Parent Needs to Know About Gen Z</li>
<li>What Critical Foundation Do Many Parents Miss When Discipling Their Kids?</li>
<li>How To Teach Your Kids the Christian Worldview&nbsp;</li>
<li>Hope and Strategy for Parents of Prodigal Children</li>
</ul>
Want to read some of Catherine's most popular Christian parenting articles? Check them out here: https://www.crosswalk.com/author/catherine-segars/

Christian Parent, Crazy World is a podcast dedicated to helping you be a godly parent in an ungodly world.

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