Chiquis and her brother Johnny Lopez come back for Part 2 of their heartfelt conversation. Johnny talks about the meaning behind "Cinco,” the rough time he went through after the release of his EP, and how working on their mom's music, including her Staples Center live album, brought inspiration back into his life. The siblings also discuss how their relationship with their mom has changed over time, Johnny’s relationship with his stepdad Esteban, and their spiritual journeys with plant medicine. The episode ends with words on self-love and forgiveness, a reminder that growth starts when we give ourselves the same grace we give others.