Dr. Irina Steenbeek is a data practitioner, and author of multiple books including Data Lineage from a Business Perspective. In this episode, Juan and Tim discuss with Irina the practical realities of implementing data lineage and its relationship to Data and AI governance. For example, do you really need to have a comprehensive technical lineage? A lot of honest no-bs nuggets in this episode!

Dr. Irina Steenbeek is a data practitioner, and author of multiple books including Data Lineage from a Business Perspective. In this episode, Juan and Tim discuss with Irina the practical realities of implementing data lineage and its relationship to Data and AI governance. For example, do you really need to have a comprehensive technical lineage? A lot of honest no-bs nuggets in this episode!

Catalog and Cocktails is the honest, No-BS, non-sales-y podcast about data and analytics. This is your unfiltered chat about everything interesting in data and analytics. Join Juan Sequeda and Tim Gasper to explore emerging topics and hear from thought leaders, practitioners and executives across the data and analytics space.

Catalog and Cocktails is the honest, No-BS, non-sales-y podcast about data and analytics. This is your unfiltered chat about everything interesting in data and analytics. Join Juan Sequeda and Tim Gasper to explore emerging topics and hear from thought leaders, practitioners and executives across the data and analytics space.

Catalog & Cocktails: The Honest, No-BS Data Podcast

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All things Data Lineage with Dr. Irina Steenbeek

Juan and Tim grab a beer and rant about decision intelligence and context graphs, MCP vs Skills, and how companies really have a work problem (not a data/AI problem) and what is the maturity model to get that work done

Juan and Tim grab a beer and rant about decision intelligence and context graphs, MCP vs Skills, and how companies really have a work problem (not a data/AI problem) and what is the maturity model to get that work done

It's Friday, Juan and Tim rant about Decisions, Context, MCP and Maturity Models

Tired of executives breathlessly asking "what's our AI strategy?" while your data team drowns in 1,000 dashboards that nobody uses? In this episode, Juan and Tim cut through the noise with Juan Gorricho a data and analytics executive with more than 25 years of experience delivering business value at TD Bank, Visa, The Walt Disney Company

We cover: Why do data leaders keep building vanity metrics instead of business value? How do you go from being an "order-taking reporting team" to a trusted decision intelligence partner? And why does every data governance initiative feel like building policies nobody wants to follow?

The secret? Do it by slice. Not top-down. Not bottom-up. By slice—connecting each data product to real business outcomes while building reusable foundations underneath.

If you're ready to turn your data team's NPS around and build trust that actually sticks, this one's for you.

Spoiler: It starts with being brave enough to tell executives the truth. And btw, "I bet 40 columns drive 90% of your business."

Tired of executives breathlessly asking "what's our AI strategy?" while your data team drowns in 1,000 dashboards that nobody uses? In this episode, Juan and Tim cut through the noise with Juan Gorricho a data and analytics executive with more than 25 years of experience delivering business value at TD Bank, Visa, The Walt Disney Company
We cover: Why do data leaders keep building vanity metrics instead of business value? How do you go from being an "order-taking reporting team" to a trusted decision intelligence partner? And why does every data governance initiative feel like building policies nobody wants to follow?
The secret? Do it by slice. Not top-down. Not bottom-up. By slice&mdash;connecting each data product to real business outcomes while building reusable foundations underneath.
If you're ready to turn your data team's NPS around and build trust that actually sticks, this one's for you.
Spoiler: It starts with being brave enough to tell executives the truth. And btw, "I bet 40 columns drive 90% of your business."

Stop Chasing AI Hype. Start Counting Dollars. w/ Juan Gorricho

This is the takeaway episode of our chat with Juan Gorricho, a data and analytics executive with more than 25 years of experience delivering business value at TD Bank, Visa, The Walt Disney Company. We cover: Why do data leaders keep building vanity metrics instead of business value? How do you go from being an "order-taking reporting team" to a trusted decision intelligence partner? And why does every data governance initiative feel like building policies nobody wants to follow? And so much more. If you liked these takeaways, listen to the full episode!

This is the takeaway episode of our chat with Juan Gorricho, a data and analytics executive with more than 25 years of experience delivering business value at TD Bank, Visa, The Walt Disney Company. We cover: Why do data leaders keep building vanity metrics instead of business value? How do you go from being an "order-taking reporting team" to a trusted decision intelligence partner? And why does every data governance initiative feel like building policies nobody wants to follow? And so much more. If you liked these takeaways, listen to the full episode!

All things Data Lineage with Dr. Irina Steenbeek

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